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LadySuburu
Apperently mild anger/frustration can give me enough energy to update both my games, even if I really don't feel like doing so.

Ph0x - Neutral Hider - Lynched D1

It is now Night 1, send all Night actions within 24 hours.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
DxS - Doublevoter (Town) - Killed N1

It is now Day 2. Deadline is in 5 days. (7 alive, 4 to lynch.)
NoHitter
Vote: Firo
Nothing has changed for why I want to lynch Firo.

Incidentally, the kill of DxS feels odd to me.
It doesn't seem to be a logical kill at all.
I see nothing except a FoS at animask (which a lot of people also did) and a statement on how Firo is "just here".
Sleep Powder
Maybe DxS was right and hes onto somebody? In this case, Firo would be the person.

You should really think about the situation a bit before actually voting. Things can happen
throughout the day. Unless you're really sure... but being that confident in your vote that
quickly is kind of suspicious.
NoHitter
I can change my vote depending on the events of the day.
As of right now though, I voted Firo because she's still the most suspicious in my eyes, because of the events Day 1.
0_o

animask wrote:

You should really think about the situation a bit before actually voting. Things can happen
throughout the day. Unless you're really sure... but being that confident in your vote that
quickly is kind of suspicious.
Remember we can unvote this game. Early votes serve the purpose of putting pressure on someone.

animask wrote:

Maybe DxS was right and hes onto somebody? In this case, Firo would be the person.
Well here are all the posts that he's made this game:
[quote="DxS":12c26]Can't we all just agree that no matter what animask is not benefitial to town?[quote="DxS":12c26]tick tock tick tock.

So....any ideas if we can assume what role animask is?[quote="DxS":12c26]@Rolled I'm just asking if anyone has an idea on what animask's role could be since he's always rather outspoken no matter what he ends up being.

Personally I think he has a pro town aux role or is just plain town but again no immediate ideas.[quote="DxS":12c26]I have a feeling firo is just kinda here in the games just to be "here"

Doesn't seem like someone who even has a willingness to create a constructive post imo.It doesn't seem to me like DxS was a threat to anyone, really. I'd say either he was bus driven, or the mafia wanted to play it safe and pick a low-profile target whose death wouldn't raise much dust.

Vote Firo to get him talking.
Sleep Powder
If you just vote to add pressure, anyone (especially mafia) could jump onto that bandwagon.

The "pressure" excuse could be used to the point where a mafia could potentially hammer if Firo is innocent.
If Firo isn't innocent, someone would be trying to defend her (in some way) at the 3rd vote.

Having 4 votes activates the hammer, but since its still early in the day, its unlikely someone would do that... (easily raises suspicion after 2nd vote)

Unless you two (NoHiTter, 0_o) thought of that beforehand and wanted to start the bandwagon to lower your suspicion.

If you really wanted information, you could also prod Firo. Based on what everyone is saying, Firo is just lurking and voting
or being inactive in the game.
Rolled
@0_o: Bus driven? Like, bus driver? Is that some form of expression I'm not aware of?
Rolled
Woops, had some confusion on the bus driver role. I see what you mean now.

Carry on~
Firo Prochainezo
I see a lot of votes against me and I would like to reply them all, but it seems like I can't. ;__;

LadySuburu, please replace me. I have IRL problems that I have to deal and, unfortunately, I can't find time to keep up with this game.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Looking for a replacement for Firo.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Foulcoon replaces Firo.
foulcoon
why do I always replace the person getting voted for? anyways I'll read the thread soon :)
0_o
Awesome.
Rolled
foulcoon how about you just fucking sign up from now on
foulcoon
Nobody informs me on sign-ups sir. Maybe you should tell me next time.


P.S. - I'm out with my girlfriend tonight so ill get into the game tomorrow.
Rantai
Rghrgr. I was on a similar page as NoHItter but I think I'll withhold for now until foulcoon makes a proper response.

0_o wrote:

It doesn't seem to me like DxS was a threat to anyone, really. I'd say either he was bus driven, or the mafia wanted to play it safe and pick a low-profile target whose death wouldn't raise much dust.
My thoughts exactly except, DxS was already under a bit of suspicion which could have prompted a kill that could implicate those that FoS'd him.
foulcoon
Honestly from what I've read nohitter is a pretty aggressive player. He almost seems too aggressive to be mafia to me so I'll withhold judgment for now. I would like to hear more from Haneii though, as a no-lynch vote on day 1 seems to be the extend of his/her activity. I know that this might sound hypocritical considering Firo's activity, but I promise to try to be much more active.
NoHitter
Everyone:
Who do you find most suspicious at the moment?

Hope to hear more from you foulcoon (as opposed to Firo).
I'm keeping my vote on you still since Firo was suspicious and you just have the same slot.
Rantai
Honestly my opinions haven't changed much from the first day, that said foulcoon is still high on my list.
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

Everyone:
Who do you find most suspicious at the moment?
I really don't know tbh. Before I probably would have said Firo due to his oddly brief accusation yesterday, but seeing as he quit due to IRL stuff preventing him from keeping up with the game, that would explain the lack of substance.

My gut's still wary of NoHItter, but I feel like I'm always suspicious of him for some reason so I won't be acting on that for now.
Sleep Powder
(Why do I get the feeling that my last few posts got ignored a little...?)

Due to game inactivity, (or just the lack of posts)

my FoS still stands with Rantai and NoHItter.

@NoHiTter, wait... you said your vote was to add pressure, right? You also
said that foulcoon has the same slot as Firo so you're keeping your vote. (baton passing? lulz wats the terminology?) Rantai (who I also suspect) is keeping foulcoon on his list, which is similar to what NoHItter did.

@foulcoon, you claim NoHItter to be an agressive player. Playing it safe by posting it as information rather than
an opinion, BUT you withheld your "judgement for now" even though you thought that he was "almost too aggressive to be mafia".
This seems like a good cover to hide your actual opinion on NoHItter.

@0_o, I have this feeling that you're acting much more pro-town than some of the other people here. You also voted for
Firo/foulcoon in order to add pressure. foulcoon did give out some information and you didn't ask him any questions yet... You
probably just forgot, but I'm getting townie tells from you. If I consider metagaming, I would realize that I've always considered
you as pro-town. After thinking for a bit, I realized that your play style just seemed to give townie reads. Back to the foulcoon ordeal...
if you didn't forget, you are probably planning something with NoHItter just as I thought. This is just enough information to give...

FoS 0_o I don't feel suspicious of Rantai as much after all of this... unFoSing Rantai

@Haneii, prodding Haneii...
NoHitter

animask wrote:

@NoHiTter, wait... you said your vote was to add pressure, right? You also
said that foulcoon has the same slot as Firo so you're keeping your vote. (baton passing? lulz wats the terminology?) Rantai (who I also suspect) is keeping foulcoon on his list, which is similar to what NoHItter did.
Whether a slot is scum or not doesn't change when someone replaces into it.
Firo was scummy, ergo the slot was scummy.
foulcoon may be a new player, but the same slot is still scummy.
Also, where did I say my vote was pressure?
0_o

animask wrote:

(Why do I get the feeling that my last few posts got ignored a little...?)
Because understanding your posts/lines of thought is quite difficult so I think a lot of us have just stopped trying.

animask wrote:

@0_o, I have this feeling that you're acting much more pro-town than some of the other people here. You also voted for Firo/foulcoon in order to add pressure. foulcoon did give out some information and you didn't ask him any questions yet... You
probably just forgot, [. . .] if you didn't forget, you are probably planning something with NoHItter just as I thought.
I wanted Firo to explain his actions (or lack thereof). But while foul now has Firo's role, he doesn't have his mind, so there really isn't any point in interrogating him over what Firo was thinking. foul already gave his own opinion on NoHItter, and Firo's quitting message gave (me at least) a reasonable explanation for his brevity, so I really don't have anything else to ask from him.

Forgot to unvote in my last post, so I'll do that now.
foulcoon
Sorry been rather busy with work and have been out all day.

going to vote: Haneii

speak up.
Haneii

animask wrote:

@Haneii, prodding Haneii...
Sorry about that everyone. I'll be more active now with the weekend finally here ^_^

So DxS got killed last night? odd.

A few of us were cautious/suspicious about DxS. Why would mafia kill off someone that could keep the attention off them :/? (unless they weren't really paying attention to the thread - Which makes me think it could be Firo, but that would only make sense if she was the only mafia since everyone else seemed to be up to date with everything). Maybe I'm just over thinking things.

Although this comment bugs me:

Rantai wrote:

DxS was already under a bit of suspicion which could have prompted a kill that could implicate those that FoS'd him.
Again, probably over thinking things...DxS's death makes more sense if mafia killed him to put the spotlight on those who FoS'd him. More people to keep suspicions off themselves/him/herself (2 or 3 for the prince of 1?).
Haneii

animask wrote:

@foulcoon, you claim NoHItter to be an agressive player. Playing it safe by posting it as information rather than
an opinion, BUT you withheld your "judgement for now" even though you thought that he was "almost too aggressive to be mafia".



[flashback]

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

This situation has been pretty confusing and I don't know what to say.

Except the fact that NoHItter sounds mildly suspicious.
Ph0X explains why Nohitter is suspicious

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

I don't need to repeat what Ph0X said.

Vote: NoHItter
[/flashback]


You may have replaced her, but you're still doing the same thing >_<. You comment on someone's behavior, don't explain/or give us any insight on how you came to the conclusion. It might be too early but, like her, it seems like you just post up a prompt of some sort and hope that someone else will continue where you left off...
foulcoon
I'm pretty sure animask and you both misunderstood what I said. I'm not accusing nohitter of being mafia, I actually stated I believed the oppposite. I voted for you haneii because you're under the radar and relatively inactive (much like the rest of this game lately). I'm not going to unvote yet because rather than offer any valid insight on the game you just tried to make me look bad...
Haneii
...I never assumed you were accusing NoHitter of being mafia.

foulcoon wrote:

Honestly from what I've read nohitter is a pretty aggressive player. He almost seems too aggressive to be mafia to me
you think he's aggressive, maybe even too aggressive to be mafia - yup, I think I got you the first time ^_^

What made you think I was misunderstanding things?
Haneii
foulcoon can you (and anyone else who hasn't answered) answer NoHitter's question

NoHItter wrote:

Everyone:
Who do you find most suspicious at the moment?
I'd like to hear more thoughts (it's also getting too quiet)
foulcoon

Haneii wrote:

You may have replaced her, but you're still doing the same thing >_<. You comment on someone's behavior, don't explain/or give us any insight on how you came to the conclusion. It might be too early but, like her, it seems like you just post up a prompt of some sort and hope that someone else will continue where you left off...
This is what made me think you're misunderstanding things. If you took the time to read and understand that I was stating that I don't think NoHItter is mafia, you wouldn't say that I'm "doing the same thing" as Firo was. Frankly I don't agree with what Ph0X and Firo were getting at, I honestly believe that Firo was trying to put as little effort into the game as possible.

Yes I commented that NoHItter was an aggressive player. You're asking me to "give insight on how I came to the conclusion" on why I believe he is an aggressive player?

Most suspicious: everyone who isn't talking right now, and Haneii.

Now my question for you, Haneii: are you dumb or stupid?
Haneii

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

This situation has been pretty confusing and I don't know what to say.

Except the fact that NoHItter sounds mildly suspicious.

foulcoon wrote:

Honestly from what I've read nohitter is a pretty aggressive player. He almost seems too aggressive to be mafia

Haneii wrote:

You may have replaced her, but you're still doing the same thing >_<. You comment on someone's behavior, don't explain/or give us any insight on how you came to the conclusion. It might be too early but, like her, it seems like you just post up a prompt of some sort and hope that someone else will continue where you left off...
I'm still wondering why you believe I think you're accusing NoHitter of mafia...


foulcoon wrote:

Yes I commented that NoHItter was an aggressive player. You're asking me to "give insight on how I came to the conclusion" on why I believe he is an aggressive player?
YES! I just want you to talk/elaborate more! I was comparing you to Firo not because I think you both are attacking NoHitter but because you both don't say much ^_^, sorry if I wasn't clear.
foulcoon
I don't think I need to add commentary, I'm not Ph0X. Just look at his posts its quite obvious what I mean when I say hes an aggressive player.

P.S. - you didn't answer my question.
Sleep Powder
inb4overpressuringfoulcoon

@foulcoon, I understood that you think NoHItter is not mafia. The way you said it made me feel
like you were trying to protect him without being caught. You don't want to see him as a mafia member?
Is there any evidence to back-up your ideas of him? That would've been a better way to back up your ideas...
Also, my last post (I think it was my last post anyways) was questioning why you said that you NoHItter probably
isn't mafia and at the same time said that you're withholding your judgement on NoHItter.

NoHItter wrote:

animask wrote:

@NoHiTter, wait... you said your vote was to add pressure, right? You also
said that foulcoon has the same slot as Firo so you're keeping your vote. (baton passing? lulz wats the terminology?) Rantai (who I also suspect) is keeping foulcoon on his list, which is similar to what NoHItter did.
Whether a slot is scum or not doesn't change when someone replaces into it.
Firo was scummy, ergo the slot was scummy.
foulcoon may be a new player, but the same slot is still scummy.
Also, where did I say my vote was pressure?
I was probably just trying to connect you and 0_o together as mafia and ended up thinking of 0_o instead of you.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Deadline is extended until 16 hours after this post.
Rantai
Ugh I feel like a slacker.

foulcoon, resorting to insults now? (viewtopic.php?p=958985#p958985). Sounds like you're starting to get desperate.

Seriously though, it isn't hard to provide reasons as to why you think someone is anything (I mean how would you come to that conclusion anyway) and the fact you're getting really worked up about it and refusing to provide the reasons in your own words shows you've got something to hide.

foulcoon wrote:

This is what made me think you're misunderstanding things. If you took the time to read and understand that I was stating that I don't think NoHItter is mafia, you wouldn't say that I'm "doing the same thing" as Firo was. Frankly I don't agree with what Ph0X and Firo were getting at, I honestly believe that Firo was trying to put as little effort into the game as possible.
You say this, but...

foulcoon wrote:

I don't think I need to add commentary, I'm not Ph0X. Just look at his posts its quite obvious what I mean when I say hes an aggressive player.

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

I don't need to repeat what Ph0X said.
Maybe my reading comprehension sucks, but that looks like you're doing the same thing as Firo, taking Ph0X's arguements etc and saying "what he said".

Quite frankly, I'm not convinced that you're not also looking for an easy jump. Vote: foulcoon

Also Prod: Rolled
0_o
Vote Count
foulcoon (2) - NoHItter, Rantai
Haneii (1) - foulcoon

1.5 hours left, guys. Rereading thread now, let's actually get some votes in before the day ends?
NoHitter
My vote stays on Firo/foulcoon.
I see nothing significant to change my vote over the previous posts.
Sleep Powder
Vote: foulcoon

Reason: Not giving information that's actually useful in proving his innocence.
NoHitter

animask wrote:

Vote: foulcoon

Reason: Not giving information that's actually useful in proving his innocence.
That's a horrible reason to vote someone. That's a Burden of Proof.
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