The ones he pointed out were the ones who said that they liked the respective roles the least. It looks like he was giving advice to them for future games, as well as the current auxes for this game, whoever they may be.Two wrote:
uh if you really think you know who the doctor etc. is, why would you post that
In case of a counter-claim, you could vote yourself and say that you're going to be NK'd anyways by the mafia. (idk if this works)Yeahhhhhhh no don't do that.
As long as you get lynched, it will reveal you are the actual cop, so you serve your purpose and the counter-claim will be sus(s).
Once lynched, people will believe you and
Oh wait, now idk if this is a good thing or not...
animask wrote:
@0_o, you seem to get what I meant by my post. I don't even know if there is a doctor or a cop in this game.
@adam, blah blah blah (I have no idea what you're saying)
@Two, Rolefishem
.I'm not really sure what animask is trying to do, but it doesn't seem suspicious to me. In the last game (HNM) he posted very short posts and acted weirdly defensive. In that game, he obviously had something to hide as he ended up being the Doctor. Judging by his much longer posts here, I'd guess that in this game he's vanilla; though of course he may have gained more experience since that game.
Thank you.adam2046 wrote:
I'm not really sure what animask is trying to do, but it doesn't seem suspicious to me. In the last game (HNM) he posted very short posts and acted weirdly defensive. In that game, he obviously had something to hide as he ended up being the Doctor. Judging by his much longer posts here, I'd guess that in this game he's vanilla; though of course he may have gained more experience since that game.
That doesn't make ANY sense. You aren't forging your own tells, you're just doing like a hundred common scummy things.animask wrote:
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.bmin11 wrote:
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
How is it suppose to turn out? People just simply got a scumtell from your "reckless post" and voting for you. *sigh* I have a feeling that even you are a townie and you do survive D1, you will mistrail us again. If you are mafia? Dumb moveanimask wrote:
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.bmin11 wrote:
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
Being intentionally ambiguous is not a good defense.animask wrote:
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.bmin11 wrote:
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
Why would you want that information out in the open? How does the knowledge that Two has an aux role benefit the town, and how does it not benefit the mafia? You even said yourself that cops and doctors should lay low at least til later on the game, then you turn and try to out someone as being an aux? Where is the logic here?animask wrote:
I was actually accusing Two of having an aux role.
@Mashley, hes probably trying to defend me, because he has an idea of my playing style by nowI'm pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that nobody understands your playstyle. Am I wrong, anyone?
while adam doesn't. Also, why are you so suspicious?
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.Well you should, because guess what, the most suspicious person usually gets lynched, and if you're a townie you're only giving the mafia an easy scapegoat.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.Here's the thing. Sure there are some general rules of thumb, but everybody has their own opinions on what's a scumtell and what isn't. It's not like you're the only one who thinks for themselves when deciding whether someone is scum or not.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
I'm a unique townie.I'm sorry, I couldn't not post this:
I'm trying to grasp how that works. If the basis of your plan is to weed out scum through votes against you etc but everyone is throwing them at you, how exactly is your plan working?animask wrote:
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
Lynch townies to increase chances of finding mafia? That's brilliant, we should do that every day. This is sarcasm and is also not meant to imply that animask is a townie.animask wrote:
A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day
WIFOManimask wrote:
If I
was actually mafia, I wouldn't have done this move because it would
obviously make mafia lose the game.
Or a mafia member could just as easily NOT slip into the bandwagon because every single person in the game thinks you're the most suspicious and you'll probably get lynched regardless of what the mafia do.animask wrote:
A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day.
Two wrote:
a lot of suspicious unvoting
you guys aren't going to rush his lynch in are you
Lybydose wrote:
FoS: Wojjan
You're not really even saying anything, just quoting people.
LadySuburu wrote:
Posting to say I have limited internet access (PS3 when I do.) until mon/tues. Will check on threads when I do have access but posting is difficult. If someone would pass this message on in the other two threads that would be great.
Dumb role god damnit wrote:
It's a posting quirk. I'm supposed to get a message when I break it, so I'm testing the limits in risk of losing my vote.
How come you weren't quoting anything at the beginning of the day?Wojjan wrote:
Dumb role god damnit wrote:
It's a posting quirk. I'm supposed to get a message when I break it, so I'm testing the limits in risk of losing my vote.
Pointing out that it was "the usual first day voting" before casting his RVS vote seemed a bit shifty. It wasn't necessary, and it kinda gave me the impression that he gave that extra explanation to his vote because he was paranoid of looking suspicious (which mafia tend to be).intermu wrote:
It's the usual first day voting!
Vote: Ph0x
Don't want to let people feel left out
This was a response to my post here. My post was a pretty obvious joke, and seeing as adam is usually one to joke around a lot on day 1 (and 2, and 3), his attack on me seemed out of character.adam2046 wrote:
Vote: 0_o
Acting like a defeatist is a good sign of being scum or really bad under pressure.
Cheap THIS IS SRS joke in response to joke post.0_o wrote:
This was a response to my post here. My post was a pretty obvious joke, and seeing as adam is usually one to joke around a lot on day 1 (and 2, and 3), his attack on me seemed out of character.adam2046 wrote:
Vote: 0_o
Acting like a defeatist is a good sign of being scum or really bad under pressure.
Interesting idea, though like you said, even if he was lynched at 8 we still wouldn't know for sure whether he was lying or not due to the possibility of secret doublevoters. We would be able to prove if he's telling the truth, but not if he's lying.Lyby wrote:
get animask to 8 votes to see if Wojjan is telling the truth
You're voting animask I think.adam2046 wrote:
Cheap THIS IS SRS joke in response to joke post.
...Am I still voting you?
I can't tell if you're dumb or not. Wojjan lying or telling the truth about only being able to quote is irrelevant when it comes to them being mafia. Ok so we vote up animask and he gets lynched. Guess wojjan's vote counted. Does that mean they are mafia? No.Lybydose wrote:
There is a way to see if Wojjan is lying, but it's a bit of a gambit. If what he says is true, he now has a phantom ghost on animask: it shows that he's voting, but doesn't actually count.
If 7 other people vote for animask, he will hit 8 votes, normally enough for a hammer. If Wojjan is telling the truth, animask won't get lynched immediately though, and then we can all just unvote. On the other hand, if Wojjan is lying, animask will get lynched at 8 and hey, we found our first mafioso: it's Wojjan.
I did notice this thoughIf Wojjan's vote counted, it wouldn't confirm that someone had such a role, it would confirm the exact opposite: that no one had such a role and Wojjan was lying. Wojjan wouldn't have a reason to lie if he was innocent, so I'll go along and vote animask.Two wrote:
I can't tell if you're dumb or not. Wojjan lying or telling the truth about only being able to quote is irrelevant when it comes to them being mafia. Ok so we vote up animask and he gets lynched. Guess wojjan's vote counted. Does that mean they are mafia? No.Lybydose wrote:
There is a way to see if Wojjan is lying, but it's a bit of a gambit. If what he says is true, he now has a phantom ghost on animask: it shows that he's voting, but doesn't actually count.
If 7 other people vote for animask, he will hit 8 votes, normally enough for a hammer. If Wojjan is telling the truth, animask won't get lynched immediately though, and then we can all just unvote. On the other hand, if Wojjan is lying, animask will get lynched at 8 and hey, we found our first mafioso: it's Wojjan.
All it would do is confirm the fact that someone has a role that can do something like that.
Well, that's the first day, no? At the time it was the baseless voting phase, so hey. I did later unvote though, but I do understand your forcing of the issue since it is day 1 after all; not much to work with, really.0_o wrote:
Alright, read through the thread again, and there were two posts in particular that kinda rubbed me the wrong way. They're relatively weaker points, but we really can't expect conclusive evidence on Day 1 so I'm just going with what I got.Pointing out that it was "the usual first day voting" before casting his RVS vote seemed a bit shifty. It wasn't necessary, and it kinda gave me the impression that he gave that extra explanation to his vote because he was paranoid of looking suspicious (which mafia tend to be).intermu wrote:
It's the usual first day voting!
Vote: Ph0x
Don't want to let people feel left out
Like I said, they aren't great points, but I don't have a whole lot else to go on at the moment.
So FoS on adam & intermu
yeah I had that backwards, but wojjan wouldn't have a reason to lie if she wasn't innocent, eitherpieguy1372 wrote:
If Wojjan's vote counted, it wouldn't confirm that someone had such a role, it would confirm the exact opposite: that no one had such a role and Wojjan was lying. Wojjan wouldn't have a reason to lie if he was innocent, so I'll go along and vote animask.
It isn't.intermu wrote:
I looked back a couple of pages and noticed Adam also posted a couple with quotes. Maybe it's a rotational thing between a few people?
This. If we're gonna do this test then figure out who we wanna lynch first, then get Wojjan on the bandwagon. How does everyone feel about an animask lynch, disregarding Lyby's plan?naptime wrote:
Not entirely sure how following through with Lybydose's plan suggests we forgo reasons to vote for someone and match Wojjan's vote when she should probably be the one matching ours. Unless you gave a reason to vote for animask and I missed it.
Personally the only thing pushing me towards voting for animask is curiosity.
I thought of this too, butLadySuburu wrote:
Better plan: We do the voting plan, but with Wojjan as the target. This way, if Wojjan is lying, he's procuring his own lynch.
Thoughts?
(As stated in the other thread, Temporary use of computer. (Maybe till 30min from now?) )
I meant if we were going to ltest the voting theory at all. I don't really believe wojjan's claim in the first place.0_o wrote:
I thought of this too, butLadySuburu wrote:
Better plan: We do the voting plan, but with Wojjan as the target. This way, if Wojjan is lying, he's procuring his own lynch.
Thoughts?
(As stated in the other thread, Temporary use of computer. (Maybe till 30min from now?) )
a) that might be a little tough to get Wojjan to go along with that whether he's town or mafia due to possible doublevoters
b) Why risk it just to see if he really is voteless today? I don't see how having a typing quirk is a strictly pro-town condition, so even if he is proven to be voteless how is that helpful to us?
At this point I'm almost leaning towards a no lynch, there really isn't anyone who I would feel comfortable setting a vote on right now. I think a night to let the auxes do their thing might be the best thing to do.Mashley wrote:
2 irl days to go, and I really can't see this 'test' happening tbh...
A question to all players: If you had to pick one player to lynch today, who would it be and why?
.Sure, but we also avoid the risk of lynching a townie (which, seeing as we really don't have much to go on, is quite high), and we would give our auxes the chance to use their powers so we could have a more informed lynch tomorrow.Mashley wrote:
No lynch is an interesting suggestion, but to be honest I really don't think it's useful on Day 1 - you're losing a chance to find the mafia.
Sure there would be a 0% chance of lynching mafia - there would also be a 0% chance of lynching a townie. If we had a consensus on one or two candiates then I would say sure, let's lynch one of them. But we don't, so I feel like the odds of lynching mafia tonight are going to be equal to or less than chance (20% if there are 3 mafia, which, seeing as the last game had 14 players w/3 mafia, is probably a safe guess). Assuming we have 3+ aux roles (we had a doctor + deputy + doctor + nurse last game, so I'd say it's likely), we are just as likely if not more likely to lynch an aux today than a mafioso.Two wrote:
I would rather have a 10% chance to lynch mafia than 0.
Well yeah of course the percentages aren't exact due to incalculable variables, but the point is that given information we have available to us right now, a lynch tonight gives us better odds than a no lynch in the long run. This doesn't take night actions into account though, so the question is if another night for night actions is worth knocking off a shot at lynching the mafia.Two wrote:
those percentages are assuming we lynch a random person every day
it looks a lot different if you factor in the unmeasurable