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LadySuburu

Two wrote:

the "lets all vote for random people ^__^" sentiment is horrible if you actually are town, since it 100% guarantees town dies day 1
Because we always actually lynch people by random votes, as opposed to just using it to get conversation going. I forgot.

Let's just stick with asking what each other's favorite colors are. Red = Mafia, of course, so nobody say red.
0_o

LadySuburu wrote:

Red = Mafia, of course, so nobody say red.
Well Q's screwed.
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

I do, though most was in chat. I specifically remember the fact that I was shot due to you. :(
yeahhhh

That might have been me.

Two was calling all the shots (badump-shh) that game, but iirc we had most of the mafia & auxes identified at that point so I was ordered to shoot someone who we weren't sure about yet, and you just happened to be the one I picked. Sorry bout that.

But that has nothing to do with this game so yeah.

Two wrote:

the "lets all vote for random people ^__^" sentiment is horrible if you actually are town, since it 100% guarantees town dies day 1
Don't quite see how A implies B, but really there isn't much else to do at this point in the game.
I'd switch to vote you since you killed me, but I still have the feeling that Two was talking in IRC during that and told you to shoot me.

Oh well, maybe I'm confusing some other game where Two basically decided everything. Memories are fun.
0_o

LadySuburu wrote:

I'd switch to vote you since you killed me, but I still have the feeling that Two was talking in IRC during that and told you to shoot me.

Oh well, maybe I'm confusing some other game where Two basically decided everything. Memories are fun.
Nope that was the game. I just can't remember how much of that decision was mine and how much was Two's; I think he might have just given me 2-3 people to pick between..
Quaraezha

0_o wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Red = Mafia, of course, so nobody say red.
Well Q's screwed.
;_;
Two_old

LadySuburu wrote:

Let's just stick with asking what each other's favorite colors are. Red = Mafia, of course, so nobody say red.
that's kind of defensive

do you have a vested interest in lybydose
intermu
My favorite color is blue- no, YELLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW
Quaraezha
Lybydose

Quaraezha wrote:

nope.png
Quaraezha
Then again, what does Color have to do with anything?
bmin11

Quaraezha wrote:

Then again, what does Color have to do with anything?
To keep the conversation going



Actually, I have no clue and all I'm seeing is recalling meta games right now :<
Topic Starter
NoHitter
VOTE COUNT
Lybydose (2) - Rantai, Two
Two (2) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu
Rantai (1) - Wojjan
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
Mashley (1) - Lybydose
Ph0x (1) - intermu
intermu (1) - 0_o
animask (1) - bmin11

Not Voting (5) - adam2046, Quaraezha, animask, naptime, Ph0x

WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.

Replacing Ph0x. Waiting for a reply from pieguy1372.

Quaraezha

NoHItter wrote:

Two (2)
I lol'd.
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Let's just stick with asking what each other's favorite colors are. Red = Mafia, of course, so nobody say red.
that's kind of defensive

do you have a vested interest in lybydose
More like I disapprove of your mafia/WW methods. Always have, since it seems you belive you're right about 100% of the time, which annoys the hell out of me. Expecially when I see none of the thought behind it, you don't explain it, and even more so when you end up wrong and then just ignore the fact that you were wrong and continue on.

Also on mafiascum, mafia would flip with redtext in all the games I remember, whereas towns flip witih green.
Two_old
show me where I have been wrong, because that's something I definitely don't remember
Wojjan
so have we moved on from colors to playstyles?

my playstyle is claiming fool or survivor

DWI 8-)
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

show me where I have been wrong, because that's something I definitely don't remember
Because I really want to prove you wrong (which would be at the least, twice now if I can find proof), I am now rereading all the previous WW/Mafia games you've been in so I can find one instance.

Brb 10-15.

To be fair, since I just might hate Two's personality, I'll post the number of times Two was confirmed as right (That I notice.)

That way, I might just look like a total douche when I'm done with this, but at least I was fair.

Current:

Right: 2
Wrong: 0
LadySuburu
Aaand because I wasn't paying attention, I forgot again that I couldn't edit.

First version of post below.

Two wrote:

show me where I have been wrong, because that's something I definitely don't remember
Because I really want to prove you wrong (which would be at the least, twice now if I can find proof), I am now rereading all the previous WW/Mafia games you've been in so I can find one instance.

Brb 10-15.
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

Chance? The only time I've been wrong in any werewolf game was this game about Derekku Chan, and not really since I had them at the bottom of my list. I even had Sir Minelli pegged.

Don't be bitter just because I was right about you last game too, strager ^_^ feel free to retract your statements insulting my intelligence at any time
Basically self-admited, but with a cop-out at the end.

Right:3
Wrong:1
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

Also I want to point out that this is the first time a mafia member has even been lynched in a Newbie Mafia game.

Two wrote:

fyi the reason why I asked that question at the start of day 2 was because I suspected echo /flex
And you also suspected ASH. And Rolled. And adam2046.
You were bound to get it right eventually :P
Right: 5 (+strager/Echo Mafia)
Wrong: 2 (+ASH Doctor.)

Just for fun...

Two wrote:

You're right, I have an abundance of logic and I'm always right.
Now that I'm done ranting, we can head back to the game.
0_o
Here, I'll contribute too.
From WWG4:

Two wrote:

unvote, vote nohitter

at this point I just want these idiots out of the game so I don't have to read their garbage

I can only throw up so much before my throat erodes

I still think 0_o is a wolf
I was a townie and NoHItter was the Insomniac. I was protecting NoHItter from your consistent attacks on him the whole day, and you were convinced we were mafia buddies.

My take on it:

:idea: Both jockeytiyan and NoH1tter are wolves and are bad at the game

:idea: It's probable that MarioBros777 is a wolf, and more probable that DJ KRZY is a wolf
jockey was a wolf, the rest were town.

Sorry Two, you really aren't the all-knowing god of mafia.
Wojjan
"0_o is a wolf"
"jockeytiyan and nohitter are wolves"
"MarioBros777 is a wolf"
"DJ KRZY is a wolf"

EVERYONE IS A WOLF
Mashley
*sigh* Does this game really need to turn into a petty argument?
bmin11
Still seeing meta gaming :<
0_o
Sorry, I'll get back on topic.

My favourite colour is red. KILL ME NOW GUYS
adam2046
Vote: 0_o
Acting like a defeatist is a good sign of being scum or really bad under pressure.
0_o

adam2046 wrote:

Vote: 0_o
Acting like a defeatist is a good sign of being scum or really bad under pressure.
Or that they are sarcastic and bored.
LadySuburu
Sorry about the above, had a bad morning.

We should get some discussion going so we can have some information for the lynch.

I'll start with a simple question:

Q: Which role is your LEAST favorite to get?

For me, it's mafia. I actually dislike not being able to relax and be honest, and having to come up with reasons why townies (or neutrals) are 'mafia'.
Lybydose
Probably night vigilante. Too much pressure; one wrong choice can have much larger repercussions on the town's ability to win than most other aux roles. Ultimately, I face too much indecision when night choices come around, and constantly second guess myself as to who (if anyone) I should target.
0_o

LadySuburu wrote:

Q: Which role is your LEAST favorite to get?
Hmm tough one, but I think I'm gonna go with Doctor. The odds of a successful protection are pretty low unless there's an obvious target like a cop, yet it's still an important enough role that I'd have to lay low on the radar, which I don't like doing.

EDIT: Spelling, ok? >_>
Mashley
Vanilla townie is my least favourite, it's boooooring
Wojjan

LadySuburu wrote:

For me, it's mafia. I actually dislike not being able to relax and be honest, and having to come up with reasons why townies (or neutrals) are 'mafia'. So I really don't like lying to you all. I'm so glad that I can relax in the full conscience that I'm definitely not mafia this game, so you probably don't want to vote me either!
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

For me, it's mafia. I actually dislike not being able to relax and be honest, and having to come up with reasons why townies (or neutrals) are 'mafia'. So I really don't like lying to you all. I'm so glad that I can relax in the full conscience that I'm definitely not mafia this game, so you probably don't want to vote me either!
Oh you.
Two_old
my least favorite role is vanilla because it gives me the least amount of direct power
Sleep Powder

Mashley wrote:

Vanilla townie is my least favourite, it's boooooring
If only you were me...

Townie has less pressure, so adding information isn't a huge risk (usually).

My least favorite would be... nope I don't have one.
naptime
My least favorite role would probably be Mafia or Doctor. With those two I usually get oversensitive to how others view me. Favorite would probably be Cop since it's always better to know more.
DeathxShinigami
Least favorite role?

Mafia, my co-mafia partner could be a terrible player which will hold me back often times.
Lybydose

naptime wrote:

My least favorite role would probably be Mafia or Doctor. With those two I usually get oversensitive to how others view me. Favorite would probably be Cop since it's always better to know more.
hmm, but wouldn't Mafia be the best role for knowing more?
Topic Starter
NoHitter
pieguy1372 will be replacing Ph0x.
DeathxShinigami
god dammit pieguy.
0_o
hi pie
Quaraezha

LadySuburu wrote:

Q: Which role is your LEAST favorite to get?
Doctor I guess, but I never became one yet.
But I think it's hard to decide who to protect.

and oh, hi guy
intermu
I've never gotten mafia before (only played mafia like what, 3 times before?), but I would hate if I get mafia because then I can't think clearly. My thoughts would get clouded by knowing who the mafia are and the need to frame people.
pieguyn
Ohai.

My least favorite role to play is cop because I hardly find anyone and when I do I can never think of any way to accuse them besides roleclaiming, thus making the mafia kill me next turn :cry: (or something like what happened last game where I was indeed cop)

DeathxShinigami wrote:

god dammit pieguy.
:?
Lybydose
Probably a good thing too, because that last game had a ton of millers and a godfather; you'd almost never be accurate.
bmin11
Not that I've played enough to have a least favorite, but I didn't really enjoy being a mafia I guess (too much work and luck)
adam2046
I like all roles in vanilla mafia.
My least favourite role in any mafia is probably the power roles with inaccurate descriptions, such as cops that turn up false results and doctors that kill people/themselves.
Sleep Powder
@pieguy/possible Cop

You could also try waiting at least 2 days or until you have a mafia and then roleclaim.
In case of a counter-claim, you could vote yourself and say that you're going to be NK'd anyways by the mafia. (idk if this works)
As long as you get lynched, it will reveal you are the actual cop, so you serve your purpose and the counter-claim will be sus(s).
Once lynched, people will believe you and

Oh wait, now idk if this is a good thing or not...

@Quy/possible Doctor

I have some Doctor experience, but I didn't really do anything a normal doctor would do...
Lurking would be the better option for Doctor, because you could scope out the best player(s) who may get NK'd.
Some Mafia/Townies like to lynch lurkers, so you'll need to watch for those people. As a mafia/aux roles, the best
thing to do is to relax and post some good information that isn't too revealing. Mafia will have the hardest time
with this.

@intermu/Dxs/possible Mafia

I have no mafia experience, but if you are mafia, its best to post any va--...why was I about to help the Mafia...?
Don't trick me.
Two_old
uh if you really think you know who the doctor etc. is, why would you post that
Rantai
Hmm I haven't really played enough mafia to make a solid preference (if you count the pyp this is my 2nd game).

But if I had to make a choice I think I'd prefer to be an independent role with town/mafia being equal to me. Mainly because I've only played those roles and enjoyed it >.<
adam2046
Unvote
Vote: Animask
lol so helpful.
Topic Starter
NoHitter
VOTE COUNT
Lybydose (2) - Rantai, Two
Two (2) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu
animask (2) - bmin11,adam2046
Rantai (1) - Wojjan
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
Mashley (1) - Lybydose
Ph0x (1) - intermu
intermu (1) - 0_o

Not Voting (4) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, Ph0x

WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
0_o

Two wrote:

uh if you really think you know who the doctor etc. is, why would you post that
The ones he pointed out were the ones who said that they liked the respective roles the least. It looks like he was giving advice to them for future games, as well as the current auxes for this game, whoever they may be.

..though almost everyone he gave advice to has more mafia experience than he does. So that's mildly amusing.

In case of a counter-claim, you could vote yourself and say that you're going to be NK'd anyways by the mafia. (idk if this works)
As long as you get lynched, it will reveal you are the actual cop, so you serve your purpose and the counter-claim will be sus(s).
Once lynched, people will believe you and

Oh wait, now idk if this is a good thing or not...
Yeahhhhhhh no don't do that.
Sleep Powder
@0_o, you seem to get what I meant by my post. I don't even know if there is a doctor or a cop in this game.

@adam, does your vote for me have any reasoning or are you avoiding the reasoning so I have no way to defend myself?
If its about my last statement, you are assuming too quickly. If I was not mafia, the mafia would benefit from this and use this as
evidence to vote for me. You might also think that the mafia would benefit from somewhat telling the doctor/cop what to do.
This would make it easier to predict who they would be, but this is just information rather than instruction. A lot of people
like to think that most aux roles act with that kind of behavior.

@Two, I don't know if we even have a doctor/cop or not. Are you one of them?
Two_old
vote: animask
LadySuburu
Unvote

HoS: Animask

I thought you would've learned your lesson the first time you rolefished. What's your reasoning for doing so this game?
adam2046

animask wrote:

@0_o, you seem to get what I meant by my post. I don't even know if there is a doctor or a cop in this game.

@adam, blah blah blah (I have no idea what you're saying)

@Two, Rolefishem
LadySuburu
I saw that post defending animask, Mashley. Deleting posts >:(.

Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot.

FoS: Mashley.
adam2046
I'm not really sure what animask is trying to do, but it doesn't seem suspicious to me. In the last game (HNM) he posted very short posts and acted weirdly defensive. In that game, he obviously had something to hide as he ended up being the Doctor. Judging by his much longer posts here, I'd guess that in this game he's vanilla; though of course he may have gained more experience since that game.
LadySuburu

adam2046 wrote:

I'm not really sure what animask is trying to do, but it doesn't seem suspicious to me. In the last game (HNM) he posted very short posts and acted weirdly defensive. In that game, he obviously had something to hide as he ended up being the Doctor. Judging by his much longer posts here, I'd guess that in this game he's vanilla; though of course he may have gained more experience since that game.
Thank you.
Mashley
fkhagfiefbisf I posted it then realised none of it actually made sense, I'd remembered the last game wrongly
Sleep Powder
Reckless Townie Mode Activated
*beep*----*beep*-----*beep*

@adam, what if I was actually a townie? Why are you trying so hard to accuse me?
Also, to put my post more simply. Mafia should want to be voting for me because I'm suspicious and have scum tells.
You are voting for me (with few reasoning).

Also, I wasn't rolefishing. I was actually accusing Two of having an aux role.
What's rolefishing defined as exactly?

@Mashley, hes probably trying to defend me, because he has an idea of my playing style by now
while adam doesn't. Also, why are you so suspicious?

I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.

I'm a unique townie.

I'm the...reckless townie.
adam2046
I'm voting you because you're silly.
Rolefishing is fishing for roles of any sort. Asking questions in order to find someone's role out or tricking a person into revealing their role etc. It is not good for the town.
You also seem to be making yourself into a victim. I'm not accusing you of anything you're not actually doing. I simply gave a vote with vague reasoning and now you're building a fortress to defend yourself from stones.
And your fortress is made out of Play-Doh.
Lybydose

animask wrote:

I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
That doesn't make ANY sense. You aren't forging your own tells, you're just doing like a hundred common scummy things.

unvote

FoS animask

Oh, and being a reckless townie is completely useless for the town; you're more likely to be a detriment than you are to help.
DeathxShinigami
No wonder I was pushing for a lynch on animask in the previous mafia game LS hosted...

Stop being reckless~

unvote
bmin11
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS

FoS animask. Why, animask why?
Wojjan

Wojjan wrote:

vote: animask

I really really hate you.
Sleep Powder

bmin11 wrote:

Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS

FoS animask. Why, animask why?
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
bmin11

animask wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS

FoS animask. Why, animask why?
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
How is it suppose to turn out? People just simply got a scumtell from your "reckless post" and voting for you. *sigh* I have a feeling that even you are a townie and you do survive D1, you will mistrail us again. If you are mafia? Dumb move


Vote: animask
Lybydose

animask wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS

FoS animask. Why, animask why?
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
Being intentionally ambiguous is not a good defense.
0_o

animask wrote:

I was actually accusing Two of having an aux role.
Why would you want that information out in the open? How does the knowledge that Two has an aux role benefit the town, and how does it not benefit the mafia? You even said yourself that cops and doctors should lay low at least til later on the game, then you turn and try to out someone as being an aux? Where is the logic here?

@Mashley, hes probably trying to defend me, because he has an idea of my playing style by now
while adam doesn't. Also, why are you so suspicious?
I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that nobody understands your playstyle. Am I wrong, anyone?
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Well you should, because guess what, the most suspicious person usually gets lynched, and if you're a townie you're only giving the mafia an easy scapegoat.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
Here's the thing. Sure there are some general rules of thumb, but everybody has their own opinions on what's a scumtell and what isn't. It's not like you're the only one who thinks for themselves when deciding whether someone is scum or not.
I'm a unique townie.
I'm sorry, I couldn't not post this:
0_o
I reallllly want to vote animask but gah, he is just coming off to me as a clueless newbie like last game...
intermu
jesus, a lot has happened. not able to be online for the rest o the day (as it is im rushing right now already) so will respond appropriately later

also unvote ph0x since i forgot
Topic Starter
NoHitter
VOTE COUNT
animask (4) - adam2046, Two, Wojjan, bmin11
Lybydose (1) - Rantai
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
intermu (1) - 0_o

Not Voting (8) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, pieguy1372, LadySuburu, DeathxShinigami, Lybydose, intermu

WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
0_o
Oh right, unvote intermu.
Mashley
Not unvoting because I'm just cool like that
Rantai
Oh I still have Lybydose voted?

Unvote: Lybydose

animask wrote:

I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
I'm trying to grasp how that works. If the basis of your plan is to weed out scum through votes against you etc but everyone is throwing them at you, how exactly is your plan working?
Two_old
a lot of suspicious unvoting

you guys aren't going to rush his lynch in are you
bmin11
Actually, we have 3 days left. I guess there's nothing to be hasty with our decisions.

Unvote and HoS on animask. If there aren't anything that catches my eyes, I'm voting animask and please elaborate what was your intention with your previous post, animask.
Sleep Powder
Bandwagon vote. Something will happen.

A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day.

Of course, Day 1 isn't the best day to be doing anything serious. I
had no idea it was when people would get the most suspicious. If I
was actually mafia, I wouldn't have done this move because it would
obviously make mafia lose the game.
DeathxShinigami
Hey, two. Ever heard of a shift key? Could be useful at times you know~
adam2046

animask wrote:

A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day
Lynch townies to increase chances of finding mafia? That's brilliant, we should do that every day. This is sarcasm and is also not meant to imply that animask is a townie.

animask wrote:

If I
was actually mafia, I wouldn't have done this move because it would
obviously make mafia lose the game.
WIFOM

"Blah blah blah. I am townie. Blah blah blah. Did I mention I'm a townie. Blah blah blah. WIFOM. Bleh."
Please create a better defense as you will be lynched today at this rate.
Mashley
If it was anyone but animask I'd probably jump on the bandwagon right now, but history shows he is incapable of not being incredibly suspicious, so I'm holding off.
LadySuburu
Don't really have much to say, so basically posting to say I am here and still reading, and didn't forget this game because I'm hosting two others.

Recap:

animask still looks suspicious.
animask seems to act that way a lot, but it may just mean it's a null-tell.
I'm not convinced enough to vote for animask, but he's the highest on my list at the moment.
I don't see much else suspicious right now.
Lybydose

animask wrote:

A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day.
Or a mafia member could just as easily NOT slip into the bandwagon because every single person in the game thinks you're the most suspicious and you'll probably get lynched regardless of what the mafia do.
Two_old
this applies here too so

unvote

I just think that because animask says stuff like that, that if they really were mafia they'd be a lot more passive (like in the other mafia game I'm in, where they are mafia)
Wojjan

Two wrote:

a lot of suspicious unvoting

you guys aren't going to rush his lynch in are you
Two_old
prod everyone plsssss

vote: Mashley
adam2046
Well it would be nice if animask could post something more incriminating in reply.
DeathxShinigami
Well isn't two rather frantic~ ;)

But uh, anyways everyone unvoting rather hastily? Probably just to see what the real vote total looks like...
bmin11
Again, I really want to vote animask, but my gut never agrees me. I'll have to go through the thread again orz
Lybydose
FoS: Wojjan

You're not really even saying anything, just quoting people.
Mashley
Hi Two sup
Wojjan

Lybydose wrote:

FoS: Wojjan

You're not really even saying anything, just quoting people.
Lybydose
this guy
Lybydose
also relaying this message from LS in the other thread:

LadySuburu wrote:

Posting to say I have limited internet access (PS3 when I do.) until mon/tues. Will check on threads when I do have access but posting is difficult. If someone would pass this message on in the other two threads that would be great.
Wojjan

Dumb role god damnit wrote:

It's a posting quirk. I'm supposed to get a message when I break it, so I'm testing the limits in risk of losing my vote.
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

Dumb role god damnit wrote:

It's a posting quirk. I'm supposed to get a message when I break it, so I'm testing the limits in risk of losing my vote.
How come you weren't quoting anything at the beginning of the day?
Lybydose
I kind of figured that, but you had two previous posts that weren't direct quotes (your vote and your preference of claiming fool).
Lybydose
doublepost:

Assuming you're allowed to vote without directly quoting someone (but you've now edited it to quote...yourself?), that still doesn't explain the first one.
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