my least favorite role is vanilla because it gives me the least amount of direct power
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If only you were me...Mashley wrote:
Vanilla townie is my least favourite, it's boooooring
Townie has less pressure, so adding information isn't a huge risk (usually).
My least favorite would be... nope I don't have one.
naptime
Least favorite role?
Mafia, my co-mafia partner could be a terrible player which will hold me back often times.
Mafia, my co-mafia partner could be a terrible player which will hold me back often times.
hmm, but wouldn't Mafia be the best role for knowing more?naptime wrote:
My least favorite role would probably be Mafia or Doctor. With those two I usually get oversensitive to how others view me. Favorite would probably be Cop since it's always better to know more.
Topic Starter
pieguy1372 will be replacing Ph0x.
god dammit pieguy.
hi pie
Doctor I guess, but I never became one yet.LadySuburu wrote:
Q: Which role is your LEAST favorite to get?
But I think it's hard to decide who to protect.
and oh, hi
I've never gotten mafia before (only played mafia like what, 3 times before?), but I would hate if I get mafia because then I can't think clearly. My thoughts would get clouded by knowing who the mafia are and the need to frame people.
Ohai.
My least favorite role to play is cop because I hardly find anyone and when I do I can never think of any way to accuse them besides roleclaiming, thus making the mafia kill me next turn
(or something like what happened last game where I was indeed cop)
My least favorite role to play is cop because I hardly find anyone and when I do I can never think of any way to accuse them besides roleclaiming, thus making the mafia kill me next turn
(or something like what happened last game where I was indeed cop)DeathxShinigami wrote:
god dammit pieguy.
Probably a good thing too, because that last game had a ton of millers and a godfather; you'd almost never be accurate.
Not that I've played enough to have a least favorite, but I didn't really enjoy being a mafia I guess (too much work and luck)
I like all roles in vanilla mafia.
My least favourite role in any mafia is probably the power roles with inaccurate descriptions, such as cops that turn up false results and doctors that kill people/themselves.
My least favourite role in any mafia is probably the power roles with inaccurate descriptions, such as cops that turn up false results and doctors that kill people/themselves.
@pieguy/possible Cop
You could also try waiting at least 2 days or until you have a mafia and then roleclaim.
In case of a counter-claim, you could vote yourself and say that you're going to be NK'd anyways by the mafia. (idk if this works)
As long as you get lynched, it will reveal you are the actual cop, so you serve your purpose and the counter-claim will be sus(s).
Once lynched, people will believe you and
Oh wait, now idk if this is a good thing or not...
@Quy/possible Doctor
I have some Doctor experience, but I didn't really do anything a normal doctor would do...
Lurking would be the better option for Doctor, because you could scope out the best player(s) who may get NK'd.
Some Mafia/Townies like to lynch lurkers, so you'll need to watch for those people. As a mafia/aux roles, the best
thing to do is to relax and post some good information that isn't too revealing. Mafia will have the hardest time
with this.
@intermu/Dxs/possible Mafia
I have no mafia experience, but if you are mafia, its best to post any va--...why was I about to help the Mafia...?
Don't trick me.
You could also try waiting at least 2 days or until you have a mafia and then roleclaim.
In case of a counter-claim, you could vote yourself and say that you're going to be NK'd anyways by the mafia. (idk if this works)
As long as you get lynched, it will reveal you are the actual cop, so you serve your purpose and the counter-claim will be sus(s).
Once lynched, people will believe you and
Oh wait, now idk if this is a good thing or not...
@Quy/possible Doctor
I have some Doctor experience, but I didn't really do anything a normal doctor would do...
Lurking would be the better option for Doctor, because you could scope out the best player(s) who may get NK'd.
Some Mafia/Townies like to lynch lurkers, so you'll need to watch for those people. As a mafia/aux roles, the best
thing to do is to relax and post some good information that isn't too revealing. Mafia will have the hardest time
with this.
@intermu/Dxs/possible Mafia
I have no mafia experience, but if you are mafia, its best to post any va--...why was I about to help the Mafia...?
Don't trick me.
uh if you really think you know who the doctor etc. is, why would you post that
Hmm I haven't really played enough mafia to make a solid preference (if you count the pyp this is my 2nd game).
But if I had to make a choice I think I'd prefer to be an independent role with town/mafia being equal to me. Mainly because I've only played those roles and enjoyed it >.<
But if I had to make a choice I think I'd prefer to be an independent role with town/mafia being equal to me. Mainly because I've only played those roles and enjoyed it >.<
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Vote: Animask
lol so helpful.
Vote: Animask
lol so helpful.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT
Lybydose (2) - Rantai, Two
Two (2) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu
animask (2) - bmin11,adam2046
Rantai (1) - Wojjan
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
Mashley (1) - Lybydose
Ph0x (1) - intermu
intermu (1) - 0_o
Not Voting (4) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, Ph0x
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
Lybydose (2) - Rantai, Two
Two (2) - DeathxShinigami, LadySuburu
animask (2) - bmin11,adam2046
Rantai (1) - Wojjan
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
Mashley (1) - Lybydose
Ph0x (1) - intermu
intermu (1) - 0_o
Not Voting (4) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, Ph0x
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
The ones he pointed out were the ones who said that they liked the respective roles the least. It looks like he was giving advice to them for future games, as well as the current auxes for this game, whoever they may be.Two wrote:
uh if you really think you know who the doctor etc. is, why would you post that
..though almost everyone he gave advice to has more mafia experience than he does. So that's mildly amusing.
In case of a counter-claim, you could vote yourself and say that you're going to be NK'd anyways by the mafia. (idk if this works)Yeahhhhhhh no don't do that.
As long as you get lynched, it will reveal you are the actual cop, so you serve your purpose and the counter-claim will be sus(s).
Once lynched, people will believe you and
Oh wait, now idk if this is a good thing or not...
@0_o, you seem to get what I meant by my post. I don't even know if there is a doctor or a cop in this game.
@adam, does your vote for me have any reasoning or are you avoiding the reasoning so I have no way to defend myself?
If its about my last statement, you are assuming too quickly. If I was not mafia, the mafia would benefit from this and use this as
evidence to vote for me. You might also think that the mafia would benefit from somewhat telling the doctor/cop what to do.
This would make it easier to predict who they would be, but this is just information rather than instruction. A lot of people
like to think that most aux roles act with that kind of behavior.
@Two, I don't know if we even have a doctor/cop or not. Are you one of them?
@adam, does your vote for me have any reasoning or are you avoiding the reasoning so I have no way to defend myself?
If its about my last statement, you are assuming too quickly. If I was not mafia, the mafia would benefit from this and use this as
evidence to vote for me. You might also think that the mafia would benefit from somewhat telling the doctor/cop what to do.
This would make it easier to predict who they would be, but this is just information rather than instruction. A lot of people
like to think that most aux roles act with that kind of behavior.
@Two, I don't know if we even have a doctor/cop or not. Are you one of them?
Unvote
HoS: Animask
I thought you would've learned your lesson the first time you rolefished. What's your reasoning for doing so this game?
HoS: Animask
I thought you would've learned your lesson the first time you rolefished. What's your reasoning for doing so this game?
animask wrote:
@0_o, you seem to get what I meant by my post. I don't even know if there is a doctor or a cop in this game.
@adam, blah blah blah (I have no idea what you're saying)
@Two, Rolefishem
I saw that post defending animask, Mashley. Deleting posts 
.
Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot.
FoS: Mashley.
.Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot.
FoS: Mashley.
I'm not really sure what animask is trying to do, but it doesn't seem suspicious to me. In the last game (HNM) he posted very short posts and acted weirdly defensive. In that game, he obviously had something to hide as he ended up being the Doctor. Judging by his much longer posts here, I'd guess that in this game he's vanilla; though of course he may have gained more experience since that game.
Thank you.adam2046 wrote:
I'm not really sure what animask is trying to do, but it doesn't seem suspicious to me. In the last game (HNM) he posted very short posts and acted weirdly defensive. In that game, he obviously had something to hide as he ended up being the Doctor. Judging by his much longer posts here, I'd guess that in this game he's vanilla; though of course he may have gained more experience since that game.
fkhagfiefbisf I posted it then realised none of it actually made sense, I'd remembered the last game wrongly
Reckless Townie Mode Activated
*beep*----*beep*-----*beep*
@adam, what if I was actually a townie? Why are you trying so hard to accuse me?
Also, to put my post more simply. Mafia should want to be voting for me because I'm suspicious and have scum tells.
You are voting for me (with few reasoning).
Also, I wasn't rolefishing. I was actually accusing Two of having an aux role.
What's rolefishing defined as exactly?
@Mashley, hes probably trying to defend me, because he has an idea of my playing style by now
while adam doesn't. Also, why are you so suspicious?
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
I'm a unique townie.
I'm the...reckless townie.
*beep*----*beep*-----*beep*
@adam, what if I was actually a townie? Why are you trying so hard to accuse me?
Also, to put my post more simply. Mafia should want to be voting for me because I'm suspicious and have scum tells.
You are voting for me (with few reasoning).
Also, I wasn't rolefishing. I was actually accusing Two of having an aux role.
What's rolefishing defined as exactly?
@Mashley, hes probably trying to defend me, because he has an idea of my playing style by now
while adam doesn't. Also, why are you so suspicious?
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
I'm a unique townie.
I'm the...reckless townie.
I'm voting you because you're silly.
Rolefishing is fishing for roles of any sort. Asking questions in order to find someone's role out or tricking a person into revealing their role etc. It is not good for the town.
You also seem to be making yourself into a victim. I'm not accusing you of anything you're not actually doing. I simply gave a vote with vague reasoning and now you're building a fortress to defend yourself from stones.
And your fortress is made out of Play-Doh.
Rolefishing is fishing for roles of any sort. Asking questions in order to find someone's role out or tricking a person into revealing their role etc. It is not good for the town.
You also seem to be making yourself into a victim. I'm not accusing you of anything you're not actually doing. I simply gave a vote with vague reasoning and now you're building a fortress to defend yourself from stones.
And your fortress is made out of Play-Doh.
That doesn't make ANY sense. You aren't forging your own tells, you're just doing like a hundred common scummy things.animask wrote:
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
unvote
FoS animask
Oh, and being a reckless townie is completely useless for the town; you're more likely to be a detriment than you are to help.
No wonder I was pushing for a lynch on animask in the previous mafia game LS hosted...
Stop being reckless~
unvote
Stop being reckless~
unvote
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.bmin11 wrote:
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
How is it suppose to turn out? People just simply got a scumtell from your "reckless post" and voting for you. *sigh* I have a feeling that even you are a townie and you do survive D1, you will mistrail us again. If you are mafia? Dumb moveanimask wrote:
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.bmin11 wrote:
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
Vote: animask
Being intentionally ambiguous is not a good defense.animask wrote:
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.bmin11 wrote:
Unvote since my vote against animask was RVS
FoS animask. Why, animask why?
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
Why would you want that information out in the open? How does the knowledge that Two has an aux role benefit the town, and how does it not benefit the mafia? You even said yourself that cops and doctors should lay low at least til later on the game, then you turn and try to out someone as being an aux? Where is the logic here?animask wrote:
I was actually accusing Two of having an aux role.
@Mashley, hes probably trying to defend me, because he has an idea of my playing style by nowI'm pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that nobody understands your playstyle. Am I wrong, anyone?
while adam doesn't. Also, why are you so suspicious?
I don't care if whatever I say can be turned into a scum tell.Well you should, because guess what, the most suspicious person usually gets lynched, and if you're a townie you're only giving the mafia an easy scapegoat.
Players think that others are mafia/town/aux because of tells.Here's the thing. Sure there are some general rules of thumb, but everybody has their own opinions on what's a scumtell and what isn't. It's not like you're the only one who thinks for themselves when deciding whether someone is scum or not.
I forge my own tells instead of relying on the commonly accepted ones.
They have worked a few times before.
I'm a unique townie.I'm sorry, I couldn't not post this:
I reallllly want to vote animask but gah, he is just coming off to me as a clueless newbie like last game...
jesus, a lot has happened. not able to be online for the rest o the day (as it is im rushing right now already) so will respond appropriately later
also unvote ph0x since i forgot
also unvote ph0x since i forgot
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT
animask (4) - adam2046, Two, Wojjan, bmin11
Lybydose (1) - Rantai
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
intermu (1) - 0_o
Not Voting (8) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, pieguy1372, LadySuburu, DeathxShinigami, Lybydose, intermu
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
animask (4) - adam2046, Two, Wojjan, bmin11
Lybydose (1) - Rantai
adam2046 (1) - Mashley
intermu (1) - 0_o
Not Voting (8) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, pieguy1372, LadySuburu, DeathxShinigami, Lybydose, intermu
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
Oh right, unvote intermu.
Not unvoting because I'm just cool like that
Oh I still have Lybydose voted?
Unvote: Lybydose
Unvote: Lybydose
I'm trying to grasp how that works. If the basis of your plan is to weed out scum through votes against you etc but everyone is throwing them at you, how exactly is your plan working?animask wrote:
I'm sacrificing myself for the townies.
Too bad there's too much scum being thrown at me.
At least my plan is working. <--- See it?
a lot of suspicious unvoting
you guys aren't going to rush his lynch in are you
you guys aren't going to rush his lynch in are you
Actually, we have 3 days left. I guess there's nothing to be hasty with our decisions.
Unvote and HoS on animask. If there aren't anything that catches my eyes, I'm voting animask and please elaborate what was your intention with your previous post, animask.
Unvote and HoS on animask. If there aren't anything that catches my eyes, I'm voting animask and please elaborate what was your intention with your previous post, animask.
Bandwagon vote. Something will happen.
A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day.
Of course, Day 1 isn't the best day to be doing anything serious. I
had no idea it was when people would get the most suspicious. If I
was actually mafia, I wouldn't have done this move because it would
obviously make mafia lose the game.
A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day.
Of course, Day 1 isn't the best day to be doing anything serious. I
had no idea it was when people would get the most suspicious. If I
was actually mafia, I wouldn't have done this move because it would
obviously make mafia lose the game.
Hey, two. Ever heard of a shift key? Could be useful at times you know~
Lynch townies to increase chances of finding mafia? That's brilliant, we should do that every day. This is sarcasm and is also not meant to imply that animask is a townie.animask wrote:
A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day
WIFOManimask wrote:
If I
was actually mafia, I wouldn't have done this move because it would
obviously make mafia lose the game.
"Blah blah blah. I am townie. Blah blah blah. Did I mention I'm a townie. Blah blah blah. WIFOM. Bleh."
Please create a better defense as you will be lynched today at this rate.
If it was anyone but animask I'd probably jump on the bandwagon right now, but history shows he is incapable of not being incredibly suspicious, so I'm holding off.
Don't really have much to say, so basically posting to say I am here and still reading, and didn't forget this game because I'm hosting two others.
Recap:
animask still looks suspicious.
animask seems to act that way a lot, but it may just mean it's a null-tell.
I'm not convinced enough to vote for animask, but he's the highest on my list at the moment.
I don't see much else suspicious right now.
Recap:
animask still looks suspicious.
animask seems to act that way a lot, but it may just mean it's a null-tell.
I'm not convinced enough to vote for animask, but he's the highest on my list at the moment.
I don't see much else suspicious right now.
Or a mafia member could just as easily NOT slip into the bandwagon because every single person in the game thinks you're the most suspicious and you'll probably get lynched regardless of what the mafia do.animask wrote:
A mafia member could easily slip into the bandwagon, so
you could question the votes now or just letting me get lynched to
increase the odds of hitting mafia the next Day.
this applies here too so
unvote
I just think that because animask says stuff like that, that if they really were mafia they'd be a lot more passive (like in the other mafia game I'm in, where they are mafia)
unvote
I just think that because animask says stuff like that, that if they really were mafia they'd be a lot more passive (like in the other mafia game I'm in, where they are mafia)
Two wrote:
a lot of suspicious unvoting
you guys aren't going to rush his lynch in are you
Well it would be nice if animask could post something more incriminating in reply.
Well isn't two rather frantic~ 
But uh, anyways everyone unvoting rather hastily? Probably just to see what the real vote total looks like...
But uh, anyways everyone unvoting rather hastily? Probably just to see what the real vote total looks like...
Again, I really want to vote animask, but my gut never agrees me. I'll have to go through the thread again orz
FoS: Wojjan
You're not really even saying anything, just quoting people.
You're not really even saying anything, just quoting people.
Hi Two sup
Lybydose wrote:
FoS: Wojjan
You're not really even saying anything, just quoting people.
this guy
also relaying this message from LS in the other thread:
LadySuburu wrote:
Posting to say I have limited internet access (PS3 when I do.) until mon/tues. Will check on threads when I do have access but posting is difficult. If someone would pass this message on in the other two threads that would be great.
Dumb role god damnit wrote:
It's a posting quirk. I'm supposed to get a message when I break it, so I'm testing the limits in risk of losing my vote.
How come you weren't quoting anything at the beginning of the day?Wojjan wrote:
Dumb role god damnit wrote:
It's a posting quirk. I'm supposed to get a message when I break it, so I'm testing the limits in risk of losing my vote.
I kind of figured that, but you had two previous posts that weren't direct quotes (your vote and your preference of claiming fool).
doublepost:
Assuming you're allowed to vote without directly quoting someone (but you've now edited it to quote...yourself?), that still doesn't explain the first one.
Assuming you're allowed to vote without directly quoting someone (but you've now edited it to quote...yourself?), that still doesn't explain the first one.
It got imposed on me during the day. I don't know of any mafia role that can give people typing quirks.
Anyways, I've broken my conduct with the last post, so my vote will still show up on tallies, but not be counted towards the end result. I thought maybe quoting my vote would help (as much as editing posts is discouraged) but I really doubt it.
Anyways, I've broken my conduct with the last post, so my vote will still show up on tallies, but not be counted towards the end result. I thought maybe quoting my vote would help (as much as editing posts is discouraged) but I really doubt it.
There is a way to see if Wojjan is lying, but it's a bit of a gambit. If what he says is true, he now has a phantom ghost on animask: it shows that he's voting, but doesn't actually count.
If 7 other people vote for animask, he will hit 8 votes, normally enough for a hammer. If Wojjan is telling the truth, animask won't get lynched immediately though, and then we can all just unvote. On the other hand, if Wojjan is lying, animask will get lynched at 8 and hey, we found our first mafioso: it's Wojjan.
There's the possibility of a mafioso hammering animask when he's at 8 votes (7 when you consider Wojjan's vote). That would be stupid though, we would just lynch whoever was bad enough to cast the 8th non-Wojjan vote. No sane townie would cast the hammering vote in this situation; you can't WIFOM your way out of that one.
There is some risk though. What if there are doublevoters? Doublevoters are town and know they can doublevote though, so they would just hold off from voting. If this were the case, we would waste the next day chasing Wojjan.
It's risky, but there's no much to go on D1. A townie usually gets lynched D1 either way.
Thoughts?
If 7 other people vote for animask, he will hit 8 votes, normally enough for a hammer. If Wojjan is telling the truth, animask won't get lynched immediately though, and then we can all just unvote. On the other hand, if Wojjan is lying, animask will get lynched at 8 and hey, we found our first mafioso: it's Wojjan.
There's the possibility of a mafioso hammering animask when he's at 8 votes (7 when you consider Wojjan's vote). That would be stupid though, we would just lynch whoever was bad enough to cast the 8th non-Wojjan vote. No sane townie would cast the hammering vote in this situation; you can't WIFOM your way out of that one.
There is some risk though. What if there are doublevoters? Doublevoters are town and know they can doublevote though, so they would just hold off from voting. If this were the case, we would waste the next day chasing Wojjan.
It's risky, but there's no much to go on D1. A townie usually gets lynched D1 either way.
Thoughts?
missed a sentence up there about doublevoters. Should read like this:
blahblah doublevoters. However, there might be doublevoters that don't know about their power and end up killing animask with votes. If this were the case, we would waste the next day chasing Wojjan.
blahblah doublevoters. However, there might be doublevoters that don't know about their power and end up killing animask with votes. If this were the case, we would waste the next day chasing Wojjan.
Alright, read through the thread again, and there were two posts in particular that kinda rubbed me the wrong way. They're relatively weaker points, but we really can't expect conclusive evidence on Day 1 so I'm just going with what I got.
Like I said, they aren't great points, but I don't have a whole lot else to go on at the moment.
So FoS on adam & intermu
Pointing out that it was "the usual first day voting" before casting his RVS vote seemed a bit shifty. It wasn't necessary, and it kinda gave me the impression that he gave that extra explanation to his vote because he was paranoid of looking suspicious (which mafia tend to be).intermu wrote:
It's the usual first day voting!
Vote: Ph0x
Don't want to let people feel left out
This was a response to my post here. My post was a pretty obvious joke, and seeing as adam is usually one to joke around a lot on day 1 (and 2, and 3), his attack on me seemed out of character.adam2046 wrote:
Vote: 0_o
Acting like a defeatist is a good sign of being scum or really bad under pressure.
Like I said, they aren't great points, but I don't have a whole lot else to go on at the moment.
So FoS on adam & intermu
Cheap THIS IS SRS joke in response to joke post.0_o wrote:
This was a response to my post here. My post was a pretty obvious joke, and seeing as adam is usually one to joke around a lot on day 1 (and 2, and 3), his attack on me seemed out of character.adam2046 wrote:
Vote: 0_o
Acting like a defeatist is a good sign of being scum or really bad under pressure.
...Am I still voting you?
Interesting idea, though like you said, even if he was lynched at 8 we still wouldn't know for sure whether he was lying or not due to the possibility of secret doublevoters. We would be able to prove if he's telling the truth, but not if he's lying.Lyby wrote:
get animask to 8 votes to see if Wojjan is telling the truth
I'm just not sure if I want to risk lynching animask for it though. I'm feeling animask as pro-town at the moment, and even if Wojjan is telling the truth about his votelessness, that doesn't guarantee that he's pro-town. He could be a voteless mafia member who's trying to cover up his lack of vote for all we know. Risking a lynch just to see if Wojjan really is voteless just doesn't seem like it's worth the risk to me.
You're voting animask I think.adam2046 wrote:
Cheap THIS IS SRS joke in response to joke post.
...Am I still voting you?
Don't blame me though, blame plaintext's inability to convey subtle sarcastic cues.
Alright guys I'm gonna be moving in the next couple days, so I probably won't get a whole lot of opportunities to post. I'll try to keep up as much as I can, but I likely won't be able to be very active til ~1 day before the lynch.
Don't do anything stupid ^_^
Don't do anything stupid ^_^
Wojjan is a girl.
I'm part of an experiment? Wojjan might be (townie)aux/mafia based on your reasoning. Both of
those roles have reasons to lie. Then again, the risk isn't too high is it? I'll wait for more input
from everybody else. (I don't get to decide if we're doing this or not, do I?)
I'm part of an experiment? Wojjan might be (townie)aux/mafia based on your reasoning. Both of
those roles have reasons to lie. Then again, the risk isn't too high is it? I'll wait for more input
from everybody else. (I don't get to decide if we're doing this or not, do I?)
I can't tell if you're dumb or not. Wojjan lying or telling the truth about only being able to quote is irrelevant when it comes to them being mafia. Ok so we vote up animask and he gets lynched. Guess wojjan's vote counted. Does that mean they are mafia? No.Lybydose wrote:
There is a way to see if Wojjan is lying, but it's a bit of a gambit. If what he says is true, he now has a phantom ghost on animask: it shows that he's voting, but doesn't actually count.
If 7 other people vote for animask, he will hit 8 votes, normally enough for a hammer. If Wojjan is telling the truth, animask won't get lynched immediately though, and then we can all just unvote. On the other hand, if Wojjan is lying, animask will get lynched at 8 and hey, we found our first mafioso: it's Wojjan.
All it would do is confirm the fact that someone has a role that can do something like that.
Someone pro-town would have no logical reason to lie about not being able to vote.
I'm all for Lybydose's little scheme, so uh
Vote animask
Vote animask
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT
animask (3) - adam2046, Wojjan, Mashley
Mashley (1) - Two
Not Voting (11) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, pieguy1372, LadySuburu, DeathxShinigami, Lybydose, intermu, 0_o, bmin11, Rantai
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
Prodded intermu, pieguy1372.
animask (3) - adam2046, Wojjan, Mashley
Mashley (1) - Two
Not Voting (11) - Quaraezha, animask, naptime, pieguy1372, LadySuburu, DeathxShinigami, Lybydose, intermu, 0_o, bmin11, Rantai
WITH 15 ALIVE, IT TAKES 8 TO HAMMER.
Prodded intermu, pieguy1372.
MOD: If we end up with 7 votes on animask, would we face a lynch on animask regardless (most votes) or have a no lynch? IF it's the latter, go ahead I guess, a no lynch on day 1 has its advantages.
Topic Starter
In that case then animask will get lynched.
The person with the highest votes when the deadline hits will get lynched.
The person with the highest votes when the deadline hits will get lynched.
Responding to prod~
I can't tell anything yet because it's only the first day I did notice this though
I can't tell anything yet because it's only the first day
I did notice this thoughIf Wojjan's vote counted, it wouldn't confirm that someone had such a role, it would confirm the exact opposite: that no one had such a role and Wojjan was lying. Wojjan wouldn't have a reason to lie if he was innocent, so I'll go along and vote animask.Two wrote:
I can't tell if you're dumb or not. Wojjan lying or telling the truth about only being able to quote is irrelevant when it comes to them being mafia. Ok so we vote up animask and he gets lynched. Guess wojjan's vote counted. Does that mean they are mafia? No.Lybydose wrote:
There is a way to see if Wojjan is lying, but it's a bit of a gambit. If what he says is true, he now has a phantom ghost on animask: it shows that he's voting, but doesn't actually count.
If 7 other people vote for animask, he will hit 8 votes, normally enough for a hammer. If Wojjan is telling the truth, animask won't get lynched immediately though, and then we can all just unvote. On the other hand, if Wojjan is lying, animask will get lynched at 8 and hey, we found our first mafioso: it's Wojjan.
All it would do is confirm the fact that someone has a role that can do something like that.
Sorry. A spontaneous all-night karaoke session with friends interrupted my hikikomori session and I forgot about this.
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I'll just be honest, I'm quite bad at processing information so I'll need to reread again Wojjan's thing with the votes and quotes. I haven't really understood it very well, but I looked back a couple of pages and noticed Adam also posted a couple with quotes. Maybe it's a rotational thing between a few people?
Will look up posts again later.
Well, that's the first day, no? At the time it was the baseless voting phase, so hey. I did later unvote though, but I do understand your forcing of the issue since it is day 1 after all; not much to work with, really.0_o wrote:
Alright, read through the thread again, and there were two posts in particular that kinda rubbed me the wrong way. They're relatively weaker points, but we really can't expect conclusive evidence on Day 1 so I'm just going with what I got.Pointing out that it was "the usual first day voting" before casting his RVS vote seemed a bit shifty. It wasn't necessary, and it kinda gave me the impression that he gave that extra explanation to his vote because he was paranoid of looking suspicious (which mafia tend to be).intermu wrote:
It's the usual first day voting!
Vote: Ph0x
Don't want to let people feel left out
Like I said, they aren't great points, but I don't have a whole lot else to go on at the moment.
So FoS on adam & intermu
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I'll just be honest, I'm quite bad at processing information so I'll need to reread again Wojjan's thing with the votes and quotes. I haven't really understood it very well, but I looked back a couple of pages and noticed Adam also posted a couple with quotes. Maybe it's a rotational thing between a few people?
Will look up posts again later.
yeah I had that backwards, but wojjan wouldn't have a reason to lie if she wasn't innocent, eitherpieguy1372 wrote:
If Wojjan's vote counted, it wouldn't confirm that someone had such a role, it would confirm the exact opposite: that no one had such a role and Wojjan was lying. Wojjan wouldn't have a reason to lie if he was innocent, so I'll go along and vote animask.
in fact it makes less sense if wojjan is mafia
It isn't.intermu wrote:
I looked back a couple of pages and noticed Adam also posted a couple with quotes. Maybe it's a rotational thing between a few people?
Yes she would have a reason to lie, in order to stop people from accusing her. If she was Mafia, though, I doubt she'd lie by saying something like that that would draw even more attention to it...
I still think following through with Lybydose's plan is the best idea for now though.
Also, I think adam would know if he had a posting restriction...
I still think following through with Lybydose's plan is the best idea for now though.
Also, I think adam would know if he had a posting restriction...
naptime
Not entirely sure how following through with Lybydose's plan suggests we forgo reasons to vote for someone and match Wojjan's vote when she should probably be the one matching ours. Unless you gave a reason to vote for animask and I missed it.
Personally the only thing pushing me towards voting for animask is curiosity.
Personally the only thing pushing me towards voting for animask is curiosity.
This. If we're gonna do this test then figure out who we wanna lynch first, then get Wojjan on the bandwagon. How does everyone feel about an animask lynch, disregarding Lyby's plan?naptime wrote:
Not entirely sure how following through with Lybydose's plan suggests we forgo reasons to vote for someone and match Wojjan's vote when she should probably be the one matching ours. Unless you gave a reason to vote for animask and I missed it.
Personally the only thing pushing me towards voting for animask is curiosity.
NoHItter@ I unvoted my vote before. Please fix it for me
About Wojjan role claiming to avoid accusations. It's hard to believe wojjan would role claim with such mild accusation as what just happened. Not sure why she's doing this, but I'm getting a feeling that she's not doing this for bad intention.
However, if the public wants to figure wojjan's role out and lynch animask (who my gut tells me pro-town), I have no problem with it. animask is the one who's suppose to be worry with this experiment anyway >_>
About Wojjan role claiming to avoid accusations. It's hard to believe wojjan would role claim with such mild accusation as what just happened. Not sure why she's doing this, but I'm getting a feeling that she's not doing this for bad intention.
However, if the public wants to figure wojjan's role out and lynch animask (who my gut tells me pro-town), I have no problem with it. animask is the one who's suppose to be worry with this experiment anyway >_>
I'm not gonna vote for animask just to test a theory out when I don't think he's posting in a way that he would if he was mafia. It would be too easy for the votes to legitimately go over the limit.
Better plan: We do the voting plan, but with Wojjan as the target. This way, if Wojjan is lying, he's procuring his own lynch.
Thoughts?
(As stated in the other thread, Temporary use of computer. (Maybe till 30min from now?) )
Thoughts?
(As stated in the other thread, Temporary use of computer. (Maybe till 30min from now?) )
I thought of this too, butLadySuburu wrote:
Better plan: We do the voting plan, but with Wojjan as the target. This way, if Wojjan is lying, he's procuring his own lynch.
Thoughts?
(As stated in the other thread, Temporary use of computer. (Maybe till 30min from now?) )
a) that might be a little tough to get Wojjan to go along with that whether he's town or mafia due to possible doublevoters
b) Why risk it just to see if he really is voteless today? I don't see how having a typing quirk is a strictly pro-town condition, so even if he is proven to be voteless how is that helpful to us?
I meant if we were going to ltest the voting theory at all. I don't really believe wojjan's claim in the first place.0_o wrote:
I thought of this too, butLadySuburu wrote:
Better plan: We do the voting plan, but with Wojjan as the target. This way, if Wojjan is lying, he's procuring his own lynch.
Thoughts?
(As stated in the other thread, Temporary use of computer. (Maybe till 30min from now?) )
a) that might be a little tough to get Wojjan to go along with that whether he's town or mafia due to possible doublevoters
b) Why risk it just to see if he really is voteless today? I don't see how having a typing quirk is a strictly pro-town condition, so even if he is proven to be voteless how is that helpful to us?
My lynch choices for now are wojjan and animask. I don't feel confident enough about animask, but there's not much more to go on.
Also, computer access gone.
2 irl days to go, and I really can't see this 'test' happening tbh...
A question to all players: If you had to pick one player to lynch today, who would it be and why?
A question to all players: If you had to pick one player to lynch today, who would it be and why?
At this point I'm almost leaning towards a no lynch, there really isn't anyone who I would feel comfortable setting a vote on right now. I think a night to let the auxes do their thing might be the best thing to do.Mashley wrote:
2 irl days to go, and I really can't see this 'test' happening tbh...
A question to all players: If you had to pick one player to lynch today, who would it be and why?
Granted this WILL bring us to an even number of people, though it's pretty early in the game and the chances of an extra kill (or a successful protection) in the next few days probably isn't bad.
If you guys have any strong opinions about who to lynch then knock yourselves out, but I don't, so for now:
vote no
No lynch is an interesting suggestion, but to be honest I really don't think it's useful on Day 1 - you're losing a chance to find the mafia. Though I will agree that no one here stands out as suspicious at the moment - that's why I asked the question 
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.Sure, but we also avoid the risk of lynching a townie (which, seeing as we really don't have much to go on, is quite high), and we would give our auxes the chance to use their powers so we could have a more informed lynch tomorrow.Mashley wrote:
No lynch is an interesting suggestion, but to be honest I really don't think it's useful on Day 1 - you're losing a chance to find the mafia.
Basically it would be the same thing as starting a game with a Night 0, which I believe is more beneficial to the town than mafia.
I am and will forever be against no lynch. I would rather have a 10% chance to lynch mafia than 0. Losing a day so aux roles have a chance at finding mafia isn't worth it. It's the aux role's job to play in a way that they don't get chosen at night/day, and if they can't do that we lose anyway.
Sure there would be a 0% chance of lynching mafia - there would also be a 0% chance of lynching a townie. If we had a consensus on one or two candiates then I would say sure, let's lynch one of them. But we don't, so I feel like the odds of lynching mafia tonight are going to be equal to or less than chance (20% if there are 3 mafia, which, seeing as the last game had 14 players w/3 mafia, is probably a safe guess). Assuming we have 3+ aux roles (we had a doctor + deputy + doctor + nurse last game, so I'd say it's likely), we are just as likely if not more likely to lynch an aux today than a mafioso.Two wrote:
I would rather have a 10% chance to lynch mafia than 0.
Would you really want to take the 80% chance of lynching a townie, with a 20-30% chance of hitting an aux, for a 20% chance of hitting mafia?
Though now that I think of it you probably aren't going to change your mind no matter what I say so there probably wasn't any point in typing this up. Oh well.