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EastNewSound - Zakuro wa Chi no Aji, Koi no Aji

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Leorda
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Leorda
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, January 13, 2012 at 10:07:55 PM

Artist: EastNewSound
Title: Zakuro wa Chi no Aji, Koi no Aji
Source: Touhou
Tags: embodiment of scarlet devil koumakyou th06 septette for dead princess remilia stage 6 boss lu-na Numbers 596108
BPM: 149
Filesize: 8771kb
Play Time: 03:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Red Moon (4.95 stars, 411 notes)
  2. Taiko Moon (5 stars, 938 notes)
  3. White Moon (3.07 stars, 209 notes)
Download: EastNewSound - Zakuro wa Chi no Aji, Koi no Aji
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My old mapping style is sucks and somebody get some negative comment. But, I make some new mapping style for that. Also, this map is for Remilia's fan and I saw some Japanese poll are like this. Hope you like it. Also, if you think my new mapping style is silly, i'm really sorry about that

P.S. If you think Slider Tick 2 is not fit to the song, please mention to your post. Also, if you think that slidertick clap is unacceptable, please mention your post

~Difficulty~
White Moon (Normal) : Complete
Red Moon (Insane) : Complete
Taiko Moon (Taiko by Numbers 596108) : Complete

~Special Thanks~
1) S i R i R u (SB elements)
2) Sandpig (SB elements)
3) Numbers 596108 (Guest Diff)
4) Jigoku-nyan (MOD)
5) Winber1 (MOD)
6) S o r d a (MOD)
7) Sallad4ever (MOD)
8) Nivalis (MOD)
9) Karen Ying-yang (MOD)
10) Bourdon (MOD)
11) p3n (MOD)
12) bmin11 (MOD)
13) Suzully (MOD)
14) Bakachriste (MOD)
15) Breeze (MOD)
16) lolcubes (MOD)
Last edited by Leorda , edited 17 times in total.
-Moccha_chii-
202 posts
Joined September 2010
-Moccha_chii-
1st 8-)
Another remilia <3
love this :D
Leorda
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Leorda

-Moccha_chii- wrote:

1st 8-)
Another remilia <3
love this :D
thx :)
Numbers 596108
Former osu!taiko Champion: #1
773 posts
Joined November 2009
Numbers 596108
Done~started editing today,Finished now~

Download: EastNewSound - Zakuro wa Chi no Aji, Koi no Aji (Leorda) [596108's Taiko].osu
Leorda
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Leorda

Numbers 596108 wrote:

Done~started editing today,Finished now~
thank you! Move to pending
Komeiji Yuki
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Komeiji Yuki
Leorda~ :O

(● ω●)つ☆
Leorda
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Leorda

Komeiji Yuki wrote:

Leorda~ :O

(● ω●)つ☆
you must to kill KOISHI KOMEIJI!!!!!!

also, thx for star
Komeiji Yuki
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Komeiji Yuki

Leorda wrote:

Komeiji Yuki wrote:

Leorda~ :O

(● ω●)つ☆
you must to kill KOISHI KOMEIJI!!!!!!

also, thx for star
Looks good ww

Leorda
4,416 posts
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Leorda

Komeiji Yuki wrote:

:O

EDIT : where is the blood ._.?
Tenshi-nyan
1,482 posts
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Tenshi-nyan

Leorda wrote:

Jigoku-nyan!
ahaha~

How is this mapping style any different from your old style?

Anyway.

Red Moon
00:41:357 (4,5,6) - replace like this: http://puu.sh/2BMo
01:06:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - those doublets don't make any sense at all. I guess they're just here to increase the difficulty, because they don't follow the song at all.
01:30:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I'd love to say the same about those, but these seem to be OK.
01:36:122 (3) - I'd say it's a sign of bad mapping if you have to use a slidertick clap.
01:37:934 (4) - ^
01:39:343 (3) - ^
And many more. I'm not a big fan of those and only use them myself if absolutely necessary. They also sound horrible if played without the basic hitsound when hitting a circle.
01:59:377 - increase the volume of this section by 10%, I almost can't hear the hitsounds of the notes in the stream.
02:28:471 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pointless doublets riight here.
02:54:242 - I just noticed this here. I think those strobes are needlessly fast. Almost too fast. So fast that they need an epilepsy warning.
03:16:793 (1) - that's one hell of a long spinner. Remove it and map the part.

White Moon
01:15:182 (2) - change the direction of the repeat arrow so it doesn't overlap with (3)
02:24:645 (2) - delete this note. feels unnatural.
Leorda
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Topic Starter
Leorda

Jigoku-nyan wrote:

Red Moon
00:41:357 (4,5,6) - replace like this: http://puu.sh/2BMo
01:06:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - those doublets don't make any sense at all. I guess they're just here to increase the difficulty, because they don't follow the song at all. It makes sense, I want to make a doublets because it's my desire
01:30:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I'd love to say the same about those, but these seem to be OK. ^
01:36:122 (3) - I'd say it's a sign of bad mapping if you have to use a slidertick clap. Are you serious?
01:37:934 (4) - ^ ^
01:39:343 (3) - ^ ^
And many more. I'm not a big fan of those and only use them myself if absolutely necessary. They also sound horrible if played without the basic hitsound when hitting a circle.
01:59:377 - increase the volume of this section by 10%, I almost can't hear the hitsounds of the notes in the stream.
02:28:471 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pointless doublets riight here. Again, it's my desire
02:54:242 - I just noticed this here. I think those strobes are needlessly fast. Almost too fast. So fast that they need an epilepsy warning.
03:16:793 (1) - that's one hell of a long spinner. Remove it and map the part. No way

White Moon
01:15:182 (2) - change the direction of the repeat arrow so it doesn't overlap with (3)
02:24:645 (2) - delete this note. feels unnatural.

Jigoku-nyan wrote:

How is this mapping style any different from your old style?
Old Mapping Style "Before ALiCE'S EMOTiON - Kuro" map : Doesn't follow the vocal, the pattern and slider shapes are silly and stupid
New Mapping Style "Before Silver Forest - (9) Everlasting of Cirno Turn" map : Does follow the vocal, the pattern and slider shapes are good

Go to hell!
Tenshi-nyan
1,482 posts
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Tenshi-nyan

Leorda wrote:

Go to hell!
Ohh, but I am already in hell~ it's pretty nice here, you should come too!

If you didn't like my mod, well that can't be helped, I just wrote what was on my mind.
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
General

--umm.. honestly speaking, i find just placing that larger picture of the original background just plain weird in the sb..

Red Moon

00:34:913 (1,2,3,4,1) - the star shape is a little off..
01:02:095 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ it really bothers me >_>
01:06:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i actually hesitated a little, and thot that perhaps you were anti-spacing these notes, but then i really just in time that you weren't lol. I think it would be better if you add a note at 01:05:316, and at 01:06:122. flows better and might make those doubles more readable imo.
01:23:236 (3) - start this slider at 01:23:437 and put a note at 01:23:236?
01:25:652 (8) - I don't find this fits the music that well, but it's readable so it's fine.
01:28:370 (4) - add clap? i know it's not on the white tick... but it sounds weird to me if you just suddenly stop the pattern D:
01:31:592 (9) - ^?
01:53:638 (2,4,6) - *nazi* not evenly spaced D:

White Moon

01:04:108 (4,5) - I would like it better if you deleted these two and put one note at 01:04:309. I know you were following the music, but it's easier to read and you can continue that clap pattern. If not, then I would move combo 4 somewhere else, I usually don't like having notes under other notes in easier diff especially if it's the first time a pattern happens.
01:15:182 (2,3) - i thot combo 2 would repeat only once... i would move combo 3 near the end of the slider, not the beginning.
01:37:330 (3) - i normally don't like using these types of repeat sliders in the easy diffs.
01:40:551 (4) - ^
02:34:309 (3) - i would move this 1/2 tick back. The way it was before didn't really match with anything in the music either.
03:40:148 (2) - i feel this could just confuse beginners a bit. It also is a tiny bit off with the music. something like this may fit better:
SPOILER

Taiko Moon

--offset is 1 ms (lol) different
--um.. you use 1/3 notes. not sure about that, but then again, i can't play taiko for life, so yea..

Awesome map! :3

Star~~
Caami
78 posts
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Caami
:)
S o r d a
1,576 posts
Joined July 2009
S o r d a
sorry late T_T

[overall]:
  1. Preview Point 94913 better imo
  2. This combo color will change it in a similar ugly thing?
  3. maybe need Fadeout I think 4:15?

[Red Moon]:
  1. 01:12:766 (1) - Add soft finish?
  2. 01:54:645 (1) - ^
  3. 02:34:913 (1) - ^
[White Moon]:
  1. 01:14:377 (1) - beginning soft finish
  2. 01:53:839 (3) - Spacing far
  3. 02:00:887 (8) - 1grid down
  4. 02:36:524 (1) - beginning soft finish
  5. 03:39:343 (1) - ^
nice map~
Hope ranked
Leorda
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Topic Starter
Leorda

S o r d a wrote:

sorry late T_T

[overall]:
  1. Preview Point 94913 better imo NO
  2. This combo color will change it in a similar ugly thing? NO
  3. maybe need Fadeout I think 4:15? NO

[Red Moon]:
  1. 01:12:766 (1) - Add soft finish? NO
  2. 01:54:645 (1) - ^ NO
  3. 02:34:913 (1) - ^ NO
[White Moon]:
  1. 01:14:377 (1) - beginning soft finish NO
  2. 01:53:839 (3) - Spacing far Opss, fixed
  3. 02:00:887 (8) - 1grid down OK
  4. 02:36:524 (1) - beginning soft finish NO
  5. 03:39:343 (1) - ^ NO
nice map~
Hope ranked
arigatou gozaimashita!
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz
Taiko Mod

I don't see anything wrong with it note wise, but why is the note scrolling so slow? I toggled around with the velocity and such but it doesn't change, gonna need to fix that so it's at the 1.4 scrolling speed.
Numbers 596108
Former osu!taiko Champion: #1
773 posts
Joined November 2009
Numbers 596108
Why does it still at a low BPM?
fix somewhere

Download: EastNewSound - Zakuro wa Chi no Aji, Koi no Aji (Leorda) [Taiko Moon].osu
Pereira006
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Pereira006
Leorda !!!! ♥_♥ hnnnnnnnggggggghhhhhh R.I.P

Remilia is my wife ! rrrrrrr
Sallad4ever
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Sallad4ever
Hi Leo :3

[General]
- there's an unused file on the Lyric SB folder. I'm sure that the "Lyric Factory 2" is not used for the SB
- the wave 01 on 02:57:464. On the side, the cropped part of the wave is very noticeable like seen in here. To fix this it'll be easier if you change the scrolling from right to left into rising from the bottom, or you can give it the same transformation as the wave 01 on 01:36:323
- whoops the SB load goes beyond 5 for about 2 seconds on 03:19:813. Try removing the white effect or the wave 01, removing either one of them is enough

[White Moon]
Decrease OD by 1
00:30:484 (3) - the repeat on 1/2 beat, doesn't sound very fit the music. I suggest to extend it to 00:32:095, kinda like this. If you have something different to use then change it according to your idea, as long as it's not the same 1/2 beat repeat
00:33:303 (2) - for this one, maybe use the same pattern as 00:29:679 (2,3). My reason is because those part is basically similar to each other, so using the same pattern will be more predictable.
00:37:330 (3) - perfect!!! Now this is totally fit with the music
00:59:075 (2) - same as 00:30:484 (3), the 1/2 repeat doesn't sound very good. Maybe try this? and here's an alternative pattern I suggest if you follow the above rhythm
01:18:001 (1) - sorry but again, I really think the slider doesn't fit here
01:20:820 (1) - ^
03:31:088 (3) - too many repeat here, I suggest to make it into a single slider, then map the gap between this and the next object

[Red Moon]
00:57:464 (6) - menyentuh sedikit bagian slider sebelumnya, coba di pindah agak ke kanan supaya g nyentuh sliderna
01:12:766 (1,2,3) - hmm kinda risky anti-jump cause it's a little hard to predict, but maybe it just me
03:27:262 (3) - the repeat is overlapped by 03:26:457 (1), this doesn't look good and it kinda hid the repeat too
01:53:437 (1,2) - ini bukan overlap yg bagus, karena masih menyentuh sedikit bagian slider. Tambah jarak antara 1 & 2 supaya tidak menyentuh slidernya

[Taiko Moon]
lol the notes are to close too each other it's hard to read. This is because of the 0.5x timing section that's on 1893. 1ms earlier then the actual offset.
Open the timing panel then change the fix timing section so it's on 1894

That's enough from me
Good Luck and...
~star
Takos
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Takos
ENS! :)
Niva
Global Moderator
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Niva
OK, Time to check another Leo map I guess~

[General]
-> "Epilepsy Warning", why it's only applied on Red Moon diff?
-> The easiest diff is still 3.28, which is hard enough for me. Perhaps try creating an easier diff, or at least try to make this diff under 3.25 (so it will be shown as 3 stars in-game)
-> Add a SliderBorder? Maybe SliderBorder : 253,85,190 will make the map better :3

[SB]
-> "blood1.png" and "blood2.png" - I think it's better to decrease their opacity ?
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\blood_1.png",320,240
 S,0,203840,,1.223804
 F,0,203840,204444,0, -> 0.22 <-
 M,0,203840,229029,401,168,309,245
 F,0,204444,228806,-> 0.22 <-
 F,0,228806,229007,-> 0.22 <-,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\blood_2.png",320,240
 S,0,205450,,1.188466
 F,0,205450,206054,0,-> 0.35 <-
 M,0,205450,229007,334,209,424,237
 F,0,206054,228806,-> 0.35 <-
 F,0,228806,229007,-> 0.35 <-,0

[White Moon]
01:19:209 (2,3,4) - Make the volume gradually increase?
01:27:866 (2) - Move two grids left to get more flow
01:59:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Woah >< If this played with DoubleTime it is equal to (149 * 1.5 / 2) = 111.75 BPM continous 8-notes stream. I don't think it's good for beginners...
02:42:967 (1) - One grid up, or move the next (5) one grid down
03:33:504 (2) - Changing this into slider wave could look better for me

[Red Moon]
-> OD -1?
00:41:759 (6) - Add clap?
01:03:907 (3) - Try to shape it like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114979 ?
01:06:323 (1,2,3,4...) - This part could use more soft-whistle imo
01:09:544 (6,7,8) - Just copy-paste one slider and rotate it 120° each (:
02:18:806 (1,2,3 - 4,5,6 - 7,8,9) - I personally doesn't like how these compressed streams were placed, repeating slider plays better for me
02:26:860 (1,2,3,4) - Try arranging the sliders like this - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114981 ? Jumps like this used much by tieff in his maps and I liked it very much (:
02:36:927 (2,3) - This jump is wider than from (1) to (2)

Itu aja sih~
Good luck Leo xD
Leorda
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Topic Starter
Leorda
@Nivalis : no change for [General] and [SB]. Fixed most on [White Moon] only
@Sallad4ever : fixed most, thx
DJ Kirisame Marisa
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DJ Kirisame Marisa
LOVE! 8-)
DarkDunskin
1,875 posts
Joined April 2009
DarkDunskin
Taiko Mod:

General:
- Of course you can use whistles when you map Taiko-diffs but it's hard to mod them if you don't mark them somehow.
Better use claps next time.
- Add a new Combo every 50~70 Notes, makes it easier to mod too ^^"
- Do you want to keep SB here? Better use a Taiko BG, Remy's face/Lyrics are covered by the Taiko Play area :/

Niow to the actual mod:
- 01:33:303 (207~213) - 1/6 streams that long are rly nasty, maybe delete 212+211, add a finish (remove whistle first)
at 213 and a whistle at 210 instead?

Quite short mod :/
Though that Rythm is quite unusual, it somehow fits the song and is fun to play too~
Well Done, star.
Kotone
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Kotone
wow,great job of new style ;)

General
There is two 'scarlet' of tag
Maybe use silence soft-sliderslide?You can find it form here
I think you are use photoshop to make lyric image?Next time try to use Image-Trim~it is useful XD.But now is ok


Red Moon
01:09:544 (6,7,8) - make like this?
SPOILER
01:20:215 (4,6) - clap?
01:28:269 (4,6) - whistle?
02:18:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - just don't like this
02:31:692 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^
02:32:900 (1,1) - not overlap looks better,maybe use x2 spacing of(1,2)and let (1) in the center.02:33:303 (1,2,3,4,5) - then use 1.6 spacing of them?XD
02:42:363 (4,6) - clap?
03:10:350 - add a circle here?

White
01:16:793 (4,5) - add whistle at the front of slider?
01:37:330 (3) - 4 times repeat is confusing to newbieT_T.Use 2 slider instead?
01:40:551 (4) - ^
02:38:940 (5,6) - same
03:16:793 (1) - finish?

good luck ;)
Numbers 596108
Former osu!taiko Champion: #1
773 posts
Joined November 2009
Numbers 596108

DarkDunskin wrote:

Taiko Mod:

General:
- Of course you can use whistles when you map Taiko-diffs but it's hard to mod them if you don't mark them somehow.
Better use claps next time.
- Add a new Combo every 50~70 Notes, makes it easier to mod too ^^"
- Do you want to keep SB here? Better use a Taiko BG, Remy's face/Lyrics are covered by the Taiko Play area :/

Niow to the actual mod:
- 01:33:303 (207~213) - 1/6 streams that long are rly nasty, maybe delete 212+211, add a finish (remove whistle first)
at 213 and a whistle at 210 instead? No , it is ok in this map

Quite short mod :/
Though that Rythm is quite unusual, it somehow fits the song and is fun to play too~
Well Done, star.
Leorda
4,416 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Leorda

karenying wrote:

wow,great job of new style ;)

General
There is two 'scarlet' of tag OK
Maybe use silence soft-sliderslide?You can find it form here NO
I think you are use photoshop to make lyric image?Next time try to use Image-Trim~it is useful XD.But now is ok O_O


Red Moon
01:09:544 (6,7,8) - make like this? NO
SPOILER
[attachment=0:d7a90].png[/attachment:d7a90]
01:20:215 (4,6) - clap? NO
01:28:269 (4,6) - whistle? NO
02:18:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - just don't like this NO, I like this
02:31:692 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ NO, I like this
02:32:900 (1,1) - not overlap looks better,maybe use x2 spacing of(1,2)and let (1) in the center.02:33:303 (1,2,3,4,5) - then use 1.6 spacing of them?XD Fixed
02:42:363 (4,6) - clap? NO
03:10:350 - add a circle here? NO

White
01:16:793 (4,5) - add whistle at the front of slider? NO
01:37:330 (3) - 4 times repeat is confusing to newbieT_T.Use 2 slider instead? Fixed
01:40:551 (4) - ^ Fixed
02:38:940 (5,6) - same NO
03:16:793 (1) - finish? Fixed

good luck ;)
arigatou~
Breeze
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2009
Breeze
Oh, yea, long time no see, little cute Leorda
I of course remembered you ;)

Oh, da*n, the SB beginning scared me

[White Moon]
  1. 01:43:974 (3) - Repeat here werid, maybe silence would be better
  2. 03:32:296 (3) - ^
    03:40:450 (2) - ^
[Red Moon]
  1. 01:00:887 (4) - New combo maybe
star
Leorda
4,416 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Leorda

Breeze wrote:

Oh, yea, long time no see, little cute Leorda
I of course remembered you ;)

Oh, da*n, the SB beginning scared me

[White Moon]
  1. 01:43:974 (3) - Repeat here werid, maybe silence would be better
  2. 03:32:296 (3) - ^
    03:40:450 (2) - ^
[Red Moon]
  1. 01:00:887 (4) - New combo maybe
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