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Tarou - Danjo

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FurukawaPan
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2009年04月02日 (木) at 18:17:55

Artist: Tarou
Title: Danjo
Source: NicoNicoDouga
Tags: danjo nico douga kaito meiko kagamine ren rin hatsune miku
BPM: 154
Filesize: 7055kb
Play Time: 02:04
Difficulties Available:
  1. DJPop's Insane (5 stars, 483 notes)
  2. Easy (1.8 stars, 83 notes)
  3. Hard (4.83 stars, 261 notes)
  4. Normal (3.48 stars, 178 notes)
Download: Tarou - Danjo
Download: Tarou - Danjo (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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The Danjo video from NicoNicoDouga!!

Thank you to everyone for their tips, advice, and corrections while I made this thing. I hope you all have fun with my map.

BG Image and Video both now available.

(01/25/09) - Updated hitsounds on Easy and Normal (and a few on Hard) to go better with the music.

(02/06/09) - Tags and source fields updated.

(02/07/09) - Added DJPop's Insane.

(02/14/09) - Changed artist *back* to Tarou. (see history in thread for timeline of Artist changes)

(03/06/09) and (03/19/09) and (04/02/09) - Tweaks to SFX and positioning (flyboy87 and Gens)

(03/27/09) and (03/28/09) - Spacing and Kiai modifications (MetalMario201 and Zerostarry)
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
Just found that this song has already been done.
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&s=1958

It's got a very different flavour though with donkey kong and metal gear references.. one of the numerous internet variants available.
I'm thinking I'll probably continue with my version anyway, just for the fun of it, and we'll see where this goes. I wanted to keep this beatmap 'variant free' due to how many versions of this exist (meme status after all). Besides, mine's got a MUCH better MP3 File :P
mm201
I've nazied the spacing with him IRL (james039 is my bro. I hooked him on the game! :D), so his next upload should be spaced fine up to how far it's been mapped.

There shouldn't be any problems getting this ranked, since it's quite different from the other one. More similar songs have been ranked. :)

Cool song! Looking forward to its completion. Maybe set artist as NicoNicoDouga for consistency with other maps?
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
vytalibus
Saw this map on the list and quickly remembered about my version. A source on YouTube mentions the artist being "Tarou", since NicoNicoDouga is actually a Japanese YouTube site. Apparently he coupled it with other compilations of this song.

But yeah, nowadays people think "NicoNicoDouga" is really an artist; hence the appearance of that name on other maps. I think you can proceed with that. I hope your map's better than mine!

Download: xi-on - Mysterious Mountain (OnosakiHito) [Nold's Insane].osu
Krystal-n
I love this song!

Personally for this map I think the part at 1:46 on Normal was a bit too intense for that difficulty. It felt pretty out of place compared to the rest of the map.

Also, I'm not sure if this was intentionally overlooked, but the first time 'sensei' says "danshi joshi danshi joshi" on both Normal and hard the colours are switched around (ie. pink blue pink blue). But the second time they're correct...? I'm assuming you're trying to use the colours to represent female and male so I'm sorry if it's not something you overlooked!

(I also like how you used the original video featuring BaKaito and HetaLen, hehe)
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
Thank you for catching the reversal of the colors. Yes, I am associating blue with (dan) and pink with (jo). When I change things in the map it has on several occasions flipped my colors and I had to rework the combos to get it back. This happens so easily, so if any of you spot some more reversed dan/jo coloring, please let me know. Certain sections that don't follow the lyrics will not conform to this coloring, so no need to worry there.

I've made the end of normal easier to stay in line with the difficulty of the rest of the map. I will bring back a similar challenge, but maybe a bit harder for the ending to Hard. :D
HishoHiro
Close to the end of Hard Mode, there aren't any beats... Was this on purpose? Or is it just not finished...?

Anyways, I like the beatmap, and the song is definitely of better quality. I also liked how you used a more traditional video. This one is still my favorite though : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5XsMYzJNsg :P
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
Just not finished yet. I copied some of those beats from my former too hard (normal), and intend somehow to blend them into when I map the 2nd half.
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
It's all done! ^___^ 8-)

Please check it out!

(Bumpity bump bump bump)
Real1
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DJPop
This song is fun and everything seems fine.
I hope this song ranked soon =D
Zerostarry
I like.

Just take out the ninja spinners, please.
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
done.

I nerfed the first few, and replaced a later one with some tight sliders and a hit-note. It sounds *awesome* (and it is appropriate to the hard difficulty as well).
blissfulyoshi
Easy
(1:04:458, 2) This beat is not snapped to any words

Hard
After the break, there were many notes not were not snapped to the words like your earlier half. Not sure if you want to keep the song that way.

That is all I noticed. Sorry if I was not helpful enough.
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
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DJPop
Hard: I've a bit feel lack with the rhythm, looks like there are many sounds you didn't place notes on.

Can I make Insane? :)

Don't forget to add tags:
danjo nico douga kaito meiko kagamine ren rin hatsune miku
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
omg please do. I would appreciate the DJPop >bump<
(Colbert reference) 8-)
DJPop
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
For some reason when I put your clap sound in, the map isn't using it??

Also, I wonder about the parts where you track the vocals even though it isn't really singing, but, talking...? Maybe it's not a good idea, but I'd like a mod's opinion on this first.

I have added your files to the map. I hope a mod can post whether this is fine. Other than mapping the guy talking, I am happy with the rest of it, it sounds very good!
DJPop
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: NicoNicoDouga - Danjo (james039) [DJPop's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
NICE!

You've done an awesome DJpop insane for me! This is what I was looking for. Thank you so much.

10 Stars! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

We're all good to go here.
Zerostarry
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Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
Done.

This is the way I had it in the first place, actually. :?
flyboy87
Hmm... I think the BPM should go to 154.1, it feels right on the spot and I feel its easier to hit the 300s that way.

[Easy]
1:07 min - 1:23 min range: Reduce the whistle sounds. It tends to get annoying after a while.

[Normal]
1:33:971 (1) - Move the spinner to 1:33:679

[Hard]
19:848 (4),(5) - Move them 1 space backwards.
2:04:458 - I think it's nice to put a Finish note here.

[DJPop's Insane]
9:523 - 25:108: Hitcircle sound getting a little too repetitive, IMHO.
1:09:523 (4) - This slider should be replaced with just a hit circle; or extend it 1 space and remove (5).

I love the note placements for this map, especially insane.<3

Starred.
DJPop

flyboy87 wrote:

[DJPop's Insane]
9:523 - 25:108: Hitcircle sound getting a little too repetitive, IMHO.
Snapped by followed his vocal.

1:09:523 (4) - This slider should be replaced with just a hit circle; or extend it 1 space and remove (5).
Fixed.

All difficulties: Go to 00:42:251, choose "Timing > Set Current Position as Preview" and save


+Star

Download: Tarou - Danjo (james039) [DJPop's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
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flyboy87
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Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
Thanks for modding, I have been busy the past week or so and haven't been mapping, but let me go over your suggestions now:


48:484 (1) - I like it the way it is. Moving it right is a delay I don't want.
1:17:315 (1) - Teaches beginners to *hold* the mouse button down when sliders bounce rapidly. This is also an [Easy] one, which I have no problem with.

[Normal]
11s range - 12:251 range: and 14s range - 15:367: I am fine with the slow start, personally.
54:328 - I see what you're saying, but maybe I'll save the double-finish effect for my [Hard]
2:04:458 - Same dealy.

[Hard]
11s range - 12:251 range: Same as [Normal] I still want the slow *start* as it feels right to me for this type of song.
54:328 - Tried this suggestion out. I decided against doing this, because I don't want the 1-length combo right after the spinner (and so close to it, these are mean). Also throws off the Dan/Jo coloring.
1:39:523 - Changed
1:51:991 - Changed
mm201
Easy:
  1. 00:21:89 (1,2) - Awkward how these are on 1/4 ticks.
  2. 00:32:90 (1) - *looks at slider nodes* wtf! xO (Is fine. :P)
  3. 00:45:36 (4) - Spacing. Move down by 1 grid.
  4. 01:04:06 (1,2,3) - Spacing. Your previous 1/2s were just touching.
  5. 01:10:30 (1,2,3) - ^. Just off by a couple grids.
  6. 01:16:14 (5,1) - Spacing. Could be forgivable as a "microjump," but not on Easy.
Normal:
  1. 00:21:89 (6) - See Easy.
  2. 01:29:00 (6,1) - Spacing. Just move the pink 1 a bit closer.
  3. 01:46:53 (1) - Overlap is confusing.
  4. 01:46:73 - 01:48:87 - The spacing widening is sudden and seemingly without cause.
  5. 01:54:32 (1,1) - Spacing. Move further apart.
  6. 01:57:05 (1,1,1) - ^
Hard:
  1. 01:23:54 (1) - Finish on the endpoint? :)
  2. 01:27:44 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - Spacing. Move further apart.
  3. 01:39:13 (1,2,1) - This looks on purpose. Is fine. :P
DJPop:
  1. Totally love the hitnoises going on at places like 00:54:32 (2)! I don't think DJPop would kill you if you put them at the same spots on the other difficulties.
  2. 01:39:91 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - Lol, have no idea what's going on here! (Is fine)
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
MetalMario201 wrote:

Easy:
  1. 00:21:89 (1,2) - Awkward how these are on 1/4 ticks.
    Changed to something simpler

  2. 00:45:36 (4) - Spacing. Move down by 1 grid.
    picky, picky :P I changed it anyway, I'm happy either way.
  3. 01:04:06 (1,2,3) - Spacing. Your previous 1/2s were just touching.
    I liked it better the old way. :cry:
    This works closer together though so I have changed it, but I saw nothing there that an osu! novice couldn't handle.
  4. 01:10:30 (1,2,3) - ^. Just off by a couple grids.
    Fixed.
  5. 01:16:14 (5,1) - Spacing. Could be forgivable as a "microjump," but not on Easy.
It really ruins the flow for me to start nudging this around. I'm leaving it unless I get a consensus here that I *must* change it. (not changed)

Normal:
  1. 00:21:89 (6) - See Easy.
    Not being easy anymore, I think it's acceptable in this situation. (not changed)
  2. 01:29:00 (6,1) - Spacing. Just move the pink 1 a bit closer.
    Fixed.
  3. 01:46:53 (1) - Overlap is confusing.
    Maybe a little, but I intended to have dots coming back down over the same area you slid across.
    (not changed).
  4. 01:46:73 - 01:48:87 - The spacing widening is sudden and seemingly without cause.
    Made some changed here to reduce the drastic change in spacing, still I need to spread out a bit more here to maintain a good look visually, and there's nothing confusing going on here. (changes made).
  5. 01:54:32 (1,1) - Spacing. Move further apart.
    Changed.
  6. 01:57:05 (1,1,1) - ^
    Changed.
Hard:
  1. 01:23:54 (1) - Finish on the endpoint? :)
    Really didn't sound right, but putting a finish on 01:23:54 (1)'s endpoint did. (Changed, (kind of))
  2. 01:27:44 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - Spacing. Move further apart.
    Changed.
  3. 01:39:13 (1,2,1) - This looks on purpose. Is fine. :P
DJPop:
  1. Totally love the hitnoises going on at places like 00:54:32 (2)! I don't think DJPop would kill you if you put them at the same spots on the other difficulties.
  2. 01:39:91 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - Lol, have no idea what's going on here! (Is fine)

Also used the custom sfx a bit on my levels, and added Kiai time to the very ending on all difficulties.
Zerostarry
[Easy]:
00:32:90 (1) - Less random, please.
01:17:31 (1) - Not allowed in easy :P

[Hard]:
01:10:20 - Add a note here? (Stack it too)
01:39:13 (1,2,1) - Spacing

[DJPop]:
Perfect! Don't change this.

Kiai Time:
00:42:25 ~ 00:54:32
01:27:44 ~ End

All difficulties btw. PM me when you fixed these, and i'll bubble.
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Zerostarry
bubbled.
Gens
[General]
- Whistles are hurting my ears... Can you lower the Beat volume abit? thank you <3
- I agree with flyboy... Timing sounds iffy. Maybe something like 154.05? I feel 154.1 too fast.
- I found some extra Inhereted sections lying around... But nah, maybe it doesn't matters.

[Easy]
00:35:23 (2) - maybe 1/2 shorter?
00:42:25 - Why aren't these Timing Sections inhereted?
00:45:36 (4) - Remove whistle?
00:48:09 (x) - Note here? It would be stacked with (7) <3
01:23:54 (1) - whistle?
01:24:32 (1) - Remove Finish?
01:25:88 (1) - Remove Finish on startpoint?
01:33:67 (1) - Finish?
01:38:35 (1) - Finish at the endpoint?

[Normal]
00:26:66 (1) - Finish at the Endpoint?
00:38:35 (1) - Finish?
00:48:48 (1) - ^
01:09:52 (7) - ^
01:27:44 (4,5,6) - If the next section is according to the lyrics, you should make this section too <3 Also, new combo at (4)
01:45:36 (2,1) - Not correctly stacked? stacking looks pretty.
02:03:06 (1) - Remove whistle?

[Hard]
00:14:39 (6,7) - not stacked D:
00:30:56 (10,11) - ^
00:32:12 (2,3) - ^
00:38:74 (1) - Finish?
00:40:69 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Erm, it should be more like this: Or maybe move the (2) 1/8 foward and the (1) 1/8 back? I just noticed >.> Weeeeird
[attachment=0:f4fed]right.PNG[/attachment:f4fed]

01:27:44 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I found this section to be lacking whistles... Could you add some more? thank you <3
01:46:14 (2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
01:57:83 (6) - Remove Finishes, or add Finishes to 01:56:08 (2).

[DJPop's Insane]
I love the Cuadricular style of DJPop <3

Starred :3
Topic Starter
FurukawaPan
Thank you for modding Gens! Let's go through this:

- Whistles are hurting my ears... Can you lower the Beat volume abit? thank you <3
Fixed. Having set this back when it was my first map, I never got around to tuning the volume, thank you for point it out.

- I agree with flyboy... Timing sounds iffy. Maybe something like 154.05? I feel 154.1 too fast.
I will have to once again disagree, but let me present some evidence to convince you and flyboy87 that 154.00 really is correct. As I have worked really hard now to convince myself I have it right.

1. Listen at the very end of the song as the volume trails off, and notice how the BPM mysteriously seems to speed up. It's not speeding up, that's an audio illusion. The way the instruments sound in this song tend to drag along, and near the end of the song, you get the impression that the beats are dragging behind, and it sounds as though the BPM was set too slow. I have tested 154.04 in the editor, and I am certain even this much of a change causes the beats to come too soon.

2. This song has been done before. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/1958 and 154.00BPM was also used here. Obviously being a different MP3 the offset of the original would not apply, but the BPM does, and the same BPM was used here.

3. I have gone over this many times with headphones, and restarted osu! several times to be certain. (In case sound buffers got lagged). I am really confident with my selection of 154.00


- I found some extra Inhereted sections lying around... But nah, maybe it doesn't matters.
I expressly remember setting them all to inherited, wtf? Anyway, Fixed.

[Easy]
00:35:23 (2) - maybe 1/2 shorter?
Yeah, does sound better. Changed. 8-)

00:42:25 - Why aren't these Timing Sections inhereted?
Same reason as above, they mysteriously got un-inherited somehow.. :?

00:45:36 (4) - Remove whistle?
I removed the whistle, now, I put a clap in on 4, 5, 6 and I think it might sound better that way.
It's kinda subjective though.

00:48:09 (x) - Note here? It would be stacked with (7) <3
Added.

01:23:54 (1) - whistle?
Yeah, I think I wanted a whistle there too in the first place. Changed.

01:24:32 (1) - Remove Finish?
Changed.

01:25:88 (1) - Remove Finish on startpoint?
Changed.

01:33:67 (1) - Finish?
It didn't really feel right to put the finish on that spinner, at least for me.

01:38:35 (1) - Finish at the endpoint?
Changed.

[Normal]
00:26:66 (1) - Finish at the Endpoint?
I like it better without finish.

00:38:35 (1) - Finish?
no, since he messed up the order (the lyrics) (danshi/joshi) :P

00:48:48 (1) - ^
Sounds good here, Changed.

01:09:52 (7) - ^
Here too, Changed.

01:27:44 (4,5,6) - If the next section is according to the lyrics, you should make this section too <3 Also, new combo at (4)
I don't want the map to be too boring, and on Normal I think this is a pretty straightforward "alternate" pattern. Also, I can't change the combo color to pink on the lyric "男"

01:45:36 (2,1) - Not correctly stacked? stacking looks pretty.
I lined it up better, hopefully it is perfect now.

02:03:06 (1) - Remove whistle?
Sounds good, Changed.

[Hard]
00:14:39 (6,7) - not stacked D:
00:30:56 (10,11) - ^
00:32:12 (2,3) - ^
They should be lined up perfectly now.

00:38:74 (1) - Finish?
Same reason as [Normal], it isn't a finish, but more of a :? moment. ;)

00:40:69 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Erm, it should be more like this: Or maybe move the (2) 1/8 foward and the (1) 1/8 back? I just noticed >.> Weeeeird
[attachment=0:b386e]right.PNG[/attachment:b386e]
Ah, what you're suggesting tracks the voice, but I want to track the rhythm. I will leave this unchanged.

01:27:44 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I found this section to be lacking whistles... Could you add some more? thank you <3
01:46:14 (2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
Whistles added. Some claps too, to bridge them.

01:57:83 (6) - Remove Finishes, or add Finishes to 01:56:08 (2).
Changed.

[DJPop's Insane]
I love the Cuadricular style of DJPop <3
This is what I get for collaborating with great mappers, All of my difficulties picked apart followed by complements and kudos for the difficulty I didn't make. :o


-Starred :3
Thank you. Heres a cookie * and of course some kudosu. 8-)
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