exactlyWitherMite wrote:
"I cant play it therefore its bad"
?0gg wrote:
exactlyWitherMite wrote:
"I cant play it therefore its bad"
0gg wrote:
make 4 stacks in standard rhythm a nono guideline
caps wrote:
0gg wrote:
make 4 stacks in standard rhythm a nono guideline
I was under the assumption that guidelines aren't there to mod maps though?NeonLick wrote:
I somewhat agree with topic starter, but not for difficulty reason.
Why not make proper bursts\short streams instead of lazy stacking?
Yes, there's cases where stacks make sense, but most of the time stacks placed on top of music elements that designed to rise tension and move music forward, like drum fills, guitar\piano\synth licks, or vocal runs. In that case stacks contradict music intent to move by forcing player stand in place. Short streams would be better choice.
Another case: when stacks placed in 1\8 rhythm that uses 1\16 notes to make music feel faster. In that case stacks break natural music flow for no valid reason, while spaced circles would emphasize it.
And third case: separated double stacks on top of steady 1\8 rhythm. I just can't justify this. It's pure overmapping, and overmapping usually means that mapper ignores music.
So guideline would make sense to ensure that stacks have proper support from a song.
RC rules and guidelines provide basic information of what is acceptable and what's not. It's foundation of modding and mapping. So it's exactly to mod maps.WitherMite wrote:
I was under the assumption that guidelines aren't there to mod maps though?
most current guidelines are there because they are either objectively wrong in most situations, stuff like miss-snapped objects, obnoxious or hard to see colors, or broken hitsounds. Or because its too difficult for a certain difficulty range, like objects too close to spinners on normals.
and if you can play a triple, there shouldn't be too much issue playing a quad.
unfortunately that also means I have a strong reason to NOT approve of this proposal. Just because you can't play it, doesn't mean you can propose something out of it. Lower difficulties already have rhythm restriction so it's useless, players at higher stage such as Insane or above have the ability to do them at ease.0gg wrote:
exactlyWitherMite wrote:
"I cant play it therefore its bad"
Yeah, you probably right. RC rules and guidelines should be short and clear. We need some kind of basic mapping guide with list of techniques, their description, usage, purpose, and impact on a player.lewski wrote:
if you add something like "don't stack circles when it doesn't fit", you might as well add every other similar case too. I'd rather not have a ranking criteria page longer than the bible so let's not go down that path
The word "stack" probably make my brain go puff, because the way stacks used is really bothering me.lewski wrote:
also I really dont think op's point was about stacking, it sounds way more like bursts of 4 notes so talking about stacking is pretty pointless.
6 digit scrub with zero ranked maps is wrong person to spread controversial opinions.lewski wrote:
if you want the rc to cover specific nitpicks about song representation you can make a thread for that
thank you for clearing this up, by the way i was referring to this map beatmapsets/480669#osu/2732592Okoratu wrote:
there's already this guidelineAll circles and slider heads should be snapped to distinct sounds in the music. Adding hit objects where there is no musical cue to justify them can result in unfitting rhythms.
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If the song provides quads do quads or argue for your overmapping with people
I don't really see the issue with the current guideline here
whether or not you stack them is up to the mapper
