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yeahyeahyeahhh
Eff dat, the blue is freaking awesome. Also, good splash!
Hernan

Wishy22 wrote:

Any info we can have about the future ranking system?
H1ko
pls peppy dont change the rank system T____T
EnPassant

Wishy22 wrote:

I think it should return since even when it wasn't really a perfect tool for knowing how good a player was, it was somehow accurate (high ranked people got to be somewhat good at least, and people ranked under 10k is usually not good for example)
I disagree with this statement, holding that I can FC most of my expert songs and are ranked well below 10k. Why? Maybe only because I have ~300 maps, many of which I rarely touch. The idea that Rank determines skill is probably the most ANNOYING assumption made by players.

It's as accurate as a bullet in the dark.

I do, however, agree with spoilers.

P.S. no offense to the top ranks, you guys are gods. I meant in the general sense
Aoitenshi
Warning: Showing everything that I thought. Don't expect an argument from me. & it's what my fragile brain thought.

1. Honestly, having new skin like that is kinda useless... Yes, they were fancy the first few times you saw them. But they will get boring soon enough.

2. I understand if you added 3 Dimensional skin though.

3. I am not implying that you should do Full 3D skin.

4. These Thoughts doesn't make any major points.
Topic Starter
peppy
After hearing a lot of opinions, I am going to add the Rank sort option back. This is due to people using it to find people. Please keep an open mind that it may disappear in the future, though.
EnPassant
Fair enough.
Natteke
Yay! :D
gogodr
(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ(づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ banzai
Wishy

EnPassant wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

I think it should return since even when it wasn't really a perfect tool for knowing how good a player was, it was somehow accurate (high ranked people got to be somewhat good at least, and people ranked under 10k is usually not good for example)
I disagree with this statement, holding that I can FC most of my expert songs and are ranked well below 10k. Why? Maybe only because I have ~300 maps, many of which I rarely touch. The idea that Rank determines skill is probably the most ANNOYING assumption made by players.

It's as accurate as a bullet in the dark.

I do, however, agree with spoilers.

P.S. no offense to the top ranks, you guys are gods. I meant in the general sense
Exceptions may exist, of course..
Nekoroll
This is all my preference but I am rather dissatisfied with the "banding" look on the blue main bg. I also wonder about the change to the cursor trail. I welcome the new change, but pink will always be #1 to me.

The splash image really surprised me though. I like that the most.
AngelHoney

H1ko wrote:

pls peppy dont change the rank system T____T
<Uan> T.T (wwwwwww
wangjl1110
lol , THX PPY :)
HarryHy
I really like the new pointer, nice release.
Ashinie
Unfair to high rank players >:(
At least should tell them before update.
NatsumeRin
one thing i want to ask about the editor change:

in the last version if i add a timing section it's default inherited, but now every time i add a new timing section it seems i need to change it to inherited manually.

and if i click "inherited points", it will just show the first inherited point and just add a new point 100ms after it, need to click "use current time" and find it yourself... reminds me of an old version orz.

maybe do something with it? i'm really glad to see the hitsound volume thing in the editor, but it's harder to make plenty of green lines and make them work for you now.
Colin Hou
nice to see the ignore list :D
MMzz
New ranking system? Does this mean the taiko ranks will actually be accurate?
weeeeee
thepianist

NatsumeRin wrote:

one thing i want to ask about the editor change:

in the last version if i add a timing section it's default inherited, but now every time i add a new timing section it seems i need to change it to inherited manually.
Haha I was wondering about this too; would it be possible to return it to the default where new timing sections are inherited?

The changes otherwise are great - thanks again!
Komeiji Yuki
When I use /away

It seems some errors occur and must restart :?
mm201

NatsumeRin wrote:

one thing i want to ask about the editor change:

in the last version if i add a timing section it's default inherited, but now every time i add a new timing section it seems i need to change it to inherited manually.

and if i click "inherited points", it will just show the first inherited point and just add a new point 100ms after it, need to click "use current time" and find it yourself... reminds me of an old version orz.

maybe do something with it? i'm really glad to see the hitsound volume thing in the editor, but it's harder to make plenty of green lines and make them work for you now.
I'll check but I thought the default behaviour was always to create a non-inherited section unless you used ctrl+shift+P. It should create a new section at the current time unless there's already one there? I'll check this too.
NatsumeRin
ctrl+shift+p works fine.

there's not so many multi-BPM songs, but there are lots or maps with many inherited timing sections, and this should be taken into account. also plz, i don't think there are more than 100 maps have more red lines than green lines. so the default behavior should be adding an inherirted section?



anyway... i don't want to waste hundreds or even thousands of clicks because of this small thing.
Ballance

Megurine Luka wrote:

ppy, Ballance asked what about the new achievements..see his user page.
:oops:



osu revolution! :)
Cyril Scarlet

AngelHoney wrote:

H1ko wrote:

pls peppy dont change the rank system T____T
<Uan> T.T (wwwwwww
・゚・(ノД`;)・゚・
FurukawaPan
I really feel like writing an essay or something defending the original ranking system, but for now just a few words since I'm seriously disheartened by the number of people cheering for the old system to be done away with:

Argument 1: The old system forces us to play songs we don't like to get ahead.

Point: Do you really think it's fair to be able to get the top spot ignoring maps you hate? What about the monthly charts? Aren't those only according to someone's taste?

Argument 2: It's meaningless because you can just play easy maps that have more points to pull ahead of more experienced players.

-Is the time investment in this game really worth nothing to you? Most good multiplayer scoring systems both offer ways for super skilled players to jump up quickly AND methods of "grinding" to crawl your way to the top in a slow but steady way. Why shouldn't a player be rewarded with a higher rank for having played a LOT more maps, or having been with the game longer, investing YEARS into their rank. Is it really fair to (us) to just decide one day, ya know, rank isn't accurate, let's just do away with it and find a more creative way to rank the players.

This is just to counter-argue some of the points brought up on this thread, I could write more about why I really agree with the current system for ranking and why it is a very good system, but I'll save that for another day.
h3k1ru

NatsumeRin wrote:

ctrl+shift+p works fine.

there's not so many multi-BPM songs, but there are lots or maps with many inherited timing sections, and this should be taken into account. also plz, i don't think there are more than 100 maps have more red lines than green lines. so the default behavior should be adding an inherirted section?



anyway... i don't want to waste hundreds or even thousands of clicks because of this small thing.
its will be funny to see new mappers map with full of red lines XD

must be fixed
eddieee

peppy wrote:

but for now please live without it and have faith :).
i havent seen it yet, BUT I WILL GODDAMNIT, rly guys: he still is the creator, he brought us this we shouldnt bitch like little kids ALL the time...
Ashinie

FurukawaPan wrote:

I really feel like writing an essay or something defending the original ranking system, but for now just a few words since I'm seriously disheartened by the number of people cheering for the old system to be done away with:

Argument 1: The old system forces us to play songs we don't like to get ahead.

Point: Do you really think it's fair to be able to get the top spot ignoring maps you hate? What about the monthly charts? Aren't those only according to someone's taste?

Argument 2: It's meaningless because you can just play easy maps that have more points to pull ahead of more experienced players.

-Is the time investment in this game really worth nothing to you? Most good multiplayer scoring systems both offer ways for super skilled players to jump up quickly AND methods of "grinding" to crawl your way to the top in a slow but steady way. Why shouldn't a player be rewarded with a higher rank for having played a LOT more maps, or having been with the game longer, investing YEARS into their rank. Is it really fair to (us) to just decide one day, ya know, rank isn't accurate, let's just do away with it and find a more creative way to rank the players.

This is just to counter-argue some of the points brought up on this thread, I could write more about why I really agree with the current system for ranking and why it is a very good system, but I'll save that for another day.

nice points!!!
you did what i wished to do XD
iceey-o-

FurukawaPan wrote:

I really feel like writing an essay or something defending the original ranking system, but for now just a few words since I'm seriously disheartened by the number of people cheering for the old system to be done away with:

Argument 1: The old system forces us to play songs we don't like to get ahead.

Point: Do you really think it's fair to be able to get the top spot ignoring maps you hate? What about the monthly charts? Aren't those only according to someone's taste?

Argument 2: It's meaningless because you can just play easy maps that have more points to pull ahead of more experienced players.

-Is the time investment in this game really worth nothing to you? Most good multiplayer scoring systems both offer ways for super skilled players to jump up quickly AND methods of "grinding" to crawl your way to the top in a slow but steady way. Why shouldn't a player be rewarded with a higher rank for having played a LOT more maps, or having been with the game longer, investing YEARS into their rank. Is it really fair to (us) to just decide one day, ya know, rank isn't accurate, let's just do away with it and find a more creative way to rank the players.

This is just to counter-argue some of the points brought up on this thread, I could write more about why I really agree with the current system for ranking and why it is a very good system, but I'll save that for another day.

can't agree more!!!!!!!! :) :)
Kyonko Hizara
All this hard work for nothing x.x
mm201

NatsumeRin wrote:

anyway... i don't want to waste hundreds or even thousands of clicks because of this small thing.
Hardly. I exclusively use ctrl+shift+P because typing in millisecond values makes no sense to me. If anything, the fixed bulk adjustment stuff should SAVE clicks.
Topic Starter
peppy
Rank sort has been restored in b1797, along with a few other minor fixes.
statementreply

MetalMario201 wrote:

NatsumeRin wrote:



YES.
Why is your font so big?


Default font of:
en-us Win7
zh-cn Win7
en-us WinXP
zh-cn WinXP
Topic Starter
peppy
Any future posts regarding a ranking system change which HAS NOT EVEN BEEN ANNOUNCED YET will be deleted from this thread. Seriously guys, you are arguing about something you don't even understand.
iceey-o-
>< yeah!! :D

Thank you anyway,Peppy~ You really made a great game!!!! :)
-Tsuki-_old
This is an amazing update. nice addition with the splash
Ishmon
all and all i like it but my custom background is gone D: and yes osu circle is slanted a bit but it give it style
Sure

Ishmon16 wrote:

all and all i like it but my custom background is gone D: and yes osu circle is slanted a bit but it give it style
Actually, slanted circle was a old one. I prefer old one, but new design isn't bad.
NatsumeRin

MetalMario201 wrote:

NatsumeRin wrote:

anyway... i don't want to waste hundreds or even thousands of clicks because of this small thing.
Hardly. I exclusively use ctrl+shift+P because typing in millisecond values makes no sense to me. If anything, the fixed bulk adjustment stuff should SAVE clicks.
much better now.
AnFace

ykcarrot wrote:

Ishmon16 wrote:

all and all i like it but my custom background is gone D: and yes osu circle is slanted a bit but it give it style
Actually, slanted circle was a old one. I prefer old one, but new design isn't bad.
How come I didn't notice this

Also progression of avatars and level 101
pjiang621111

ykcarrot wrote:

Ishmon16 wrote:

all and all i like it but my custom background is gone D: and yes osu circle is slanted a bit but it give it style
Actually, slanted circle was a old one. I prefer old one, but new design isn't bad.
Yep, if you see the new logo to be slanted then your eyes are fooling you. Even as of now I see it skewed sometimes.
Ashinie
since the ranking tab's back, no more complaints =v=
and chat tabs still exist after dc. that's awesome
loggin status on the bottom also nice XD
Thana_
I can't download the Update. It say's : Unhandled exception has occurred in your application ... Unable to find an entry point named "CoInternetSetFeatureEnabled" in DLL "urlmon.dll".

wtf oO

edit : problem solved.
Rey Fullbuster
i like your update :)
Rasta-kun
Whaaaaaaaa, after that update when I try to play my beatmaps the game crashed :cry:
Only with my :cry:
Topic Starter
peppy
Working on it.
YuZuKi Kenny
變LAG了
MDuh

kenny012012 wrote:

變LAG了
+1

Osu now Lag randomly on beatmaps which don't lag on previous osu build
Topic Starter
peppy
If you are getting lag, then report it in the help forum. Make sure you consider this:

18:02 <ppy> !faq lag
18:02 <BanchoBot> Lag is a very general term, which can be used to describe just about
anything going wrong with anything.
18:02 <BanchoBot> If you are going to complain about lag, please be specific in
exactly WHERE the lag occurs, and WHAT it involves (internet lag?
graphical freezes? slow framerate? input lag? brain lag?)
18:02 <BanchoBot> Also mention when the "lag" occurs, if there are any special
conditions for it to occur, and if you have any idea what caused it.
Also make sure to check nothing else is running on your PC which
could affect CPU/memory/disk usage.

The most important fact being when it occurs, and if it always occurs in the same location. Exact second values are helpful. Specifying the maps it happens on is helpful. Giving any kind of detail is helpful. "my game lags" is not.
Rasta-kun

peppy wrote:

Working on it
Well, reinstall was help. Trouble whith updater?
Wishy
Some friends getting crashes when doing F2 on the song selection screen, I didn't have this problem yet though.
Topic Starter
peppy
You didn't need to reinstall; just had to wait for the latest patch.
greedneko
major problem,osu.everytime i try play a certain beatmap,osu keep restarting itself.and those are my fav songs we're talking here.
it happens right after the latest update,over and over again.
need a fix,im starting to miss those songs
Topic Starter
peppy
Please make sure you are running b1800 (check in the top-right hand corner of options). Run the updater if not.
Noobita
I wanted to ask about friend list sorting by status... why did you take it off? I think it's useful so I just wanted to know if you're ever gonna put it back ><
Topic Starter
peppy
Sorting by status won't be returning, sorry.
Luna
The Online User list removed the underscores from my name :<
Can I have them back? I feel so naked without them :3

Other than that, it looks really nice so far~
Topic Starter
peppy
If you have a sifter account could you please report that one?
Rasta-kun

peppy wrote:

You didn't need to reinstall; just had to wait for the latest patch.
I know it.
But only when I did it, everything begin work normally.

What abought to make version for MacOS X? :lol:
Heatherfield
I used the latest version, and when i try to use the order /away blablabla, osu crashes.
DarkRingSystem
:(
A bug...orz
osu! work on

OS:Windows 7 Ultimate 64X
CPU: Pentium E5300 @2.6GHz 3.12GHz
RAM:2G
DVI:NVIDIA GeForce GTS450

.start OSU!
.begin spectate someone who is playing
.minimise the window of osu!
.maybe need wait 1 or 2 min then restore the window
.program break down...



...
xxdos

Wishy22 wrote:

Some friends getting crashes when doing F2 on the song selection screen, I didn't have this problem yet though.
+1

Edit: WTH , In online, everybody is in panic mode, we must be patient...
Good luck~
Wuiss
What the poot. I can't hear hitsounds from Normal set.

Solved. Volume problems.
Scorpium
So, do we have to re-download it?
Rantai
Oh man I'm not too sure what happened but I logged on a minute ago and got instant BSOD'd after seeing a disconnection notice.
Gabi
auto now spins in a clear circle ^^
YukuZetsuji
Uh, a major update.
Parsley
I miss the old stars and the tilt of the osu! circle, but I'm not saying the new skin is bad either. The blue bg is nice and once I got over the shock I love the courser too, although it looses a lot of it's spam click enjoyment during breaks because the center crosshair does not expand.

I don't notice where the bancho status is suppose to be though,
Maraiga
I like the changes :<
Luna

Pearlsea wrote:

I don't notice where the bancho status is suppose to be though,
When you can't connect to Bancho, it says at the bottom that you can press Shift+F1 for Status updates. It basically opens the osustatus-twitter ingame
TimeWalker
Already got a little useless graphical glitch.
When having osu minimized in the main menu and later opening that back, the "Move mouse left and right" gets reaaaally big:
(Big picture, sorry)
Gl3ny
I like the new cursor design and I'd like to use it for my own personal custom skin. I know deleting the custom cursor will show the default one but can somebody tell me how to find the actual files so that Ii can change the colors?
Sander-Don
nevermind..... ;_;
RandomJibberish
I'm pretty sure the bit of the cursor that doesn't rotate (the plus shape) isn't skinnable atm. It'd be awesome if it was though.
Piotrekol
/me can't run osu! anymore <cry>
it just shows splash screen- after a while beep- no error but osu!(splash screen) just freezed(tried a few times - always freezes at 26-33MB of allocated ram)
nvm
reinstalled osu! and works fine now.
EvianBubble
Yea, the osu logo looks a bit ... odd in the main menu. I can't really put my finger on it, but it just looks a bit ... off O_O
Don't really like the new stars or cursor, but I guess I'll get used to it eventually :P
Haven't experimented around yet, those are just first impressions ^_^
Krisom

RandomJibberish wrote:

I'm pretty sure the bit of the cursor that doesn't rotate (the plus shape) isn't skinnable atm. It'd be awesome if it was though.
This, the new cursor is awesome
abXerV2
performance = :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
hoozimajiget
Nice patch up and new features... Only one problem I've found is that when osu is looking for a song and there is some error with the map it just fubars itself and I have to restart osu. Before there would be no issue and I could play any map regardless of an audio error.
Kaona
:)

I don't like how the !where and !stats codes no longer work though. :(
Waryas
I'm not sure if I'm right but it seems each time the GC is running, my game has a 1s freeze... And so far it only happens during breaks and sometimes last note before a break..
MaZdaX2
Excellent update on the Performance, Osu started up less then a Second.
Andrea

JesusYamato wrote:

I'm not sure if I'm right but it seems each time the GC is running, my game has a 1s freeze... And so far it only happens during breaks and sometimes last note before a break..
Same here, I confirm.

Other than that, this is an awesome update.
Pereira006
HO hell yeah ! :D
dNextGen
wow this is coool

and i got no issues like some peoples mentioned in this thread :D/
h3k1ru

hoozimajiget wrote:

Nice patch up and new features... Only one problem I've found is that when osu is looking for a song and there is some error with the map it just fubars itself and I have to restart osu. Before there would be no issue and I could play any map regardless of an audio error.
i have same problem, if u move maps to another folder (custom folders inside Songs folder), sometimes osu gettin stuck with a "unable to load audio" and there only one way to end it: ctrl+alt+del
PileOStuff
I think that the new skin looks great, but I'm not really a fan of the little plus in the center of the cursor, it looks weird. Is there a way to toggle it? Or alternatively I could reskin it to be invisible, what is the file name?
sorajr
I need help. I ran the Osu! update, and i updated Osu! then it give me an error and wont start Osu! :( i run an shortcut for Osu! but it just ran the Update and not Osu! it still gives me a error. i even went in the Osu! folder and renamed "Osu!.exe. zip new" to "Osu!.exe" but it just started the Updater again, and is giving me a error. Lastly yes i am connected to the internet very well. do i need to uninstall Osu! then install in all over again? :/
CXu

JesusYamato wrote:

I'm not sure if I'm right but it seems each time the GC is running, my game has a 1s freeze... And so far it only happens during breaks and sometimes last note before a break..
I experienced this when I was using the testbuild for awhile. Thought it was only my computer being bad though, so didn't really pay it a second thought, but seems I'm not the only one getting this :p Damn this lag made me have to retry Wing my Way 5 times or more or something xD
Waryas
Is it really necessary to run a GC thread during gameplay? Can't you do it when we fail/pass?
FurukawaPan

JesusYamato wrote:

Is it really necessary to run a GC thread during gameplay? Can't you do it when we fail/pass?
What is GC?

I am experiencing 1s freeze during game play since the new update (especially during a break).
aevv_old

FurukawaPan wrote:

JesusYamato wrote:

Is it really necessary to run a GC thread during gameplay? Can't you do it when we fail/pass?
What is GC?

I am experiencing 1s freeze during game play since the new update (especially during a break).
garbage collection
Topic Starter
peppy

sorajr wrote:

I need help. I ran the Osu! update, and i updated Osu! then it give me an error and wont start Osu! :( i run an shortcut for Osu! but it just ran the Update and not Osu! it still gives me a error. i even went in the Osu! folder and renamed "Osu!.exe. zip new" to "Osu!.exe" but it just started the Updater again, and is giving me a error. Lastly yes i am connected to the internet very well. do i need to uninstall Osu! then install in all over again? :/
Delete osu!.exe and run the updater again.


freakmanguy wrote:

I think that the new skin looks great, but I'm not really a fan of the little plus in the center of the cursor, it looks weird. Is there a way to toggle it? Or alternatively I could reskin it to be invisible, what is the file name?
Choose a skin.

Kaona wrote:

:)
I don't like how the !where and !stats codes no longer work though. :(
Report this in the correct place; they should work (and do for me).


JesusYamato wrote:

I'm not sure if I'm right but it seems each time the GC is running, my game has a 1s freeze... And so far it only happens during breaks and sometimes last note before a break..
I added a forced run to stop people complaining about "lag after 110seconds into a song". Based on negative responses, this isn't a solution and will roll this back next build.
FurukawaPan

peppy wrote:

freakmanguy wrote:

I think that the new skin looks great, but I'm not really a fan of the little plus in the center of the cursor, it looks weird. Is there a way to toggle it? Or alternatively I could reskin it to be invisible, what is the file name?
Choose a skin.
The little blue plus shows regardless of what skin you choose. Is this intended behavior? I assumed it was because this is a new element and all old skins do not have their own .jpg (what filename is it for skinning?)
Topic Starter
peppy
Choose a skin with a custom cursor and cursortrail. (see this thread)
FurukawaPan

peppy wrote:

Choose a skin with a custom cursor and cursortrail. (see this thread)
Thank you peppy. That did the trick.
sorajr

peppy wrote:

sorajr wrote:

I need help. I ran the Osu! update, and i updated Osu! then it give me an error and wont start Osu! :( i run an shortcut for Osu! but it just ran the Update and not Osu! it still gives me a error. i even went in the Osu! folder and renamed "Osu!.exe. zip new" to "Osu!.exe" but it just started the Updater again, and is giving me a error. Lastly yes i am connected to the internet very well. do i need to uninstall Osu! then install in all over again? :/
Delete osu!.exe and run the updater again.

Yay!! thank you!! it works now and i can play it!! Love the new Osu! design (^-^)-b
PileOStuff

peppy wrote:

Choose a skin with a custom cursor and cursortrail.
Ah, thank you peppy. I quickly made a folder only containing a blank cursortrail, and it looks great! :D
Wishy

Gabi wrote:

auto now spins in a clear circle ^^
Auto now spins 476 not 477.
galvenize

Wishy22 wrote:

Gabi wrote:

auto now spins in a clear circle ^^
Auto now spins 476 not 477.
Auto, i am dissapoint.
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