hi pishifat and other guys, i was going to bump this these days and i will tell my opinion again about current guideline:
1) imo 1:30 limit time can't be defined as the only representive threshold length for a song when each song can have different length structure, for example a cut lower than 1:30 can still represent most of the song if the full version itself is already short (having short beginning segment, kiai, etc.) so I personally find it pretty dumb to put all song structures in the same basket of ''1:30 the only representive length for a song''. example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVhsGMp9t7Q , cut:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/807850#osu/1695382
2) obviously none wants dumb cuts back that jump directly to a kiai but we can simply avoid that with the current guideline:
''Cuts should maintain the general impression and intensity of the full song. Cuts that make significant changes to the overall listening experience of the song are very misleading and often cause unsatisfying play experiences. This does not apply to official cuts or recreations of official cuts.'' It covers the sudden bad cuts case pretty decently already with the first sentences, I dont see any practical usefulness of the 1:30 length limit for this case by having the above guideline only.
Most of us explained already on why this 1:30 isn't realistic to write it down in a guideline for different structured song lengths with the above posts so I find it pointless to explain things again unless you want me to write down my thoughts again.
That's pretty much it to be honest, if we are gonna remove the 1:30 thingy from the guideline we can still avoid the really bad cuts that jump to kiais etc. , I think none is losing anything from that.
My final proposals:
1) remove this ''Cuts should not be shorter than 1:30. These often cause unsatisfying play experiences and are generally seen as disrespectful to the artists. This does not apply to official cuts or recreations of official cuts.''
and keep this ''Cuts should maintain the general impression and intensity of the full song. Cuts that make significant changes to the overall listening experience of the song are very misleading and often cause unsatisfying play experiences. This does not apply to official cuts or recreations of official cuts.''
2) We can reword the 1:30 thing in a way that people dont read it with the impression that the 1:30 length is objectively the ideal and acceptable one only, thats the feeling that im getting at least from the current guideline. Most mappers nowdays think that anything shorter than 1:30 isnt acceptable.