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Ivalset
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Oh man, the Vision Quest bosses are pretty awesome. Sure, they're just rehashes of old fights, but they're actually pretty difficult at around level 70. The puzzle rooms are cool too, and give a shitload of items (like 10 of each king card, 10 of each queen card, and several skill cards: arms master, spell master, power charge, mind charge, enduring soul)

Whee, random pics. Shuffle time screenshots always look awesome to me, everyone is just sort of doing their own thing.



Santa and maid outfits.



And the succubus I've been using for the entire game. Skillcards are ridiculous.

rust45
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Holy crap, max Strength at level 67? How'd you pull that off?
Ivalset
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Some Kings of Swords. I had a lot of onyx lying around, so I put them to use. It's now level 85 with 99/99/72/94/99.
Remco32
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So I just got to the last part op Persona 3, and I have a question about it.
So for killing the last miniboss in Tartarus the Nix annihilation team social link got maxed. Since Nix is 'unbeatable', am I supposed to fuse Messiah in order to win the battle?
Please don't use spoilers :(
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Remco32 wrote:

So I just got to the last part op Persona 3, and I have a question about it.
So for killing the last miniboss in Tartarus the Nix annihilation team social link got maxed. Since Nix is 'unbeatable', am I supposed to fuse Messiah in order to win the battle?
Please don't use spoilers :(
SPOILER IT DO IT
Ivalset
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Remco32 wrote:

So I just got to the last part op Persona 3, and I have a question about it.
So for killing the last miniboss in Tartarus the Nix annihilation team social link got maxed. Since Nix is 'unbeatable', am I supposed to fuse Messiah in order to win the battle?
Please don't use spoilers :(
No, not at all. The last boss of persona 4 was supposedly unbeatable as well.
Remco32
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That saves me some grinding, thanks.
Remco32
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I finally finished Persona 3: FES. The final boss took me 100 minutes.
The credits are now rolling and I still have some burning question
Didn't the PC die after fighting Nix?
What happened after the PC closed his eyes on the roof with Aigis?
If you killed Rioyi (or how you're supposed to spell it), life just goes one and the world didn't end. How could that happen?
What happens in The Answer?
What is different in new game +?

Persona 3 is an awesome game. Might be the best JRPG I have ever played. The ingame counter says that I played for 70 hours. I'm not sure how accurate that is, since I was playing on an emulator speeding up thing and quicksaving/loading.
Bestelle
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Remco32 wrote:

Didn't the PC die after fighting Nix?
What happened after the PC closed his eyes on the roof with Aigis?
If you killed Rioyi (or how you're supposed to spell it), life just goes one and the world didn't end. How could that happen?
1. Explained in The Answer
2. Explained in the Answer, ask someone else to tell you for I am lazy.
3.Technically, it does. The ending on that is showing they're oblivious about what's going to happen. So they don't know that the world is in fact going to end, hence the whole partying, etc.
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So, I actually want thoughts on Nocturne. Since I'm possibly getting it in a few days. So, thoughts.
rust45
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I've played a bit of Nocturne, playing it on hard mode, died in the tutorial fight. When I got to Matador and couldn't beat him after hours of grinding, I went "fuck this" and started a normal playthrough. Haven't gotten to where I am in the hard file though.
Ivalset
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Nocturne owns and you will love it.
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Ivalset wrote:

Nocturne owns and you will love it.
Pretty much this.

Prepare to grind.
Remco32
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Ordered a free Jack Frost mousepad.

I already love it!
Remco32
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Could someone explain to me how the stats (like Strength, Magic, Endurance, etc) work?
Ivalset
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Strength increases damage dealt with normal attacks and physical skills. It works against the opponent's endurance.
Magic increases damage dealt with magical skills. Also works against the opponent's endurance.
Endurance reduces all damage taken.
Agility determines evasion, accuracy, and turn order (aside from boss fights, in which turn order is fixed).
Luck affects critical hit chance, evasion, status ailment resistance and instant death resistance.

For an example of how strength and endurance work, we can look at the damage formula for Persona 4 (obtained here)

Damage = 5 x sqrt(ST/EN x ATK) x MOD x HITS X RND

DMG = Damage
ST = Character's Strength stat
EN = Enemy's Endurance stat
ATK = Atk value of equipped weapon OR Pwr value of used skill
MOD = Modifier based on the difference between character level and enemy level
HITS= Number of hits (for physical skills)
RND = Randomness factor
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This trailer fucking rocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZfTlqB-xyc
Mogsy
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Catherine is a game I am getting day one if/when it gets released over here. It looks interesting, and is quite the step for Atlus.

lol@Vincent's P3P cameo, though
Bestelle
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What Mogsworth said. Day 1 for me.
Remco32
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My first ever 5-way fuse.
Also bumping this thread.
Bestelle
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Hee ho!
Haven't played any SMT in so long since I'm not really in the mood for turn based RPGs.
Remco32
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SPOILER

Greatest bossbattle thusfar.
Remco32
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Where's Teddie to be found in the game during the day? I want to get his social link higher, but I can't seem to find him anywhere. I just finished the videogame dungeon.
Mogsy
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His social link is automatic, like Death in P3.
Remco32
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I'm at what I think that is the final boss. I have one major issue with the fight: I run out of SP, and I don't have any effective SP restore items. Any tips?
rust45
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You mean, you don't even have any somas? I can't really think of anything to do, just what is the boss and what's your team?
Bestelle
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How does one run out of somas? Well, then again, I never use mine.
rust45
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I always save full restoration items for the final battle(s) Unless I get plenty (Like SJ when it came to beads), but still only for bosses. And then I try to keep some if the New Game+ carries on items.
Remco32
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rust45 wrote:

I always save full restoration items for the final battle(s) Unless I get plenty (Like SJ when it came to beads), but still only for bosses. And then I try to keep some if the New Game+ carries on items.
Yeah, me too. I only used a full HP/SP once IIRC. These are all the SP healing items I have:

How do I obtain somas?
rust45
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IIRC the Soma's in P4 are not random, they are all limited. And I can't remember where you get them. If you're pretty close to beating the boss, a chewing soul on your healer may keep you alive long enough.
WhoAteFred
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I think I found a soma or two in a locked chest. (or were those the ones after sub-bosses?)
Anyways, you can always just go dungeon-crawl for more snuff souls.
Ivalset
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Just buy like 99 macca leaves, those things own way too hard.

You have the chakra ring or whatever, right?
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Remco32 wrote:

I'm at what I think that is the final boss. I have one major issue with the fight: I run out of SP, and I don't have any effective SP restore items. Any tips?
If you're running out of SP, you could be under-leveled. Try just grinding for a while, maybe make some better persona O:
Remco32
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Yay
SPOILER
I finally finished the game..
Loginer
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That's not the final boss.
Remco32
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Loginer wrote:

That's not the final boss.
Yeah, I just read the outcome of the True Ending.
I can't be bugged to replay the whole damn game again for the real ending.
Ivalset
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You don't need to play through the whole game again to get the true ending...?

All you have to do is talk to all the people you maxed out and give the right answers.
Remco32
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Ivalset wrote:

You don't need to play through the whole game again to get the true ending...?

All you have to do is talk to all the people you maxed out and give the right answers.
Oh, I thought it was a newgame+ thing. I might play it if I still have a save before that point.
WhoAteFred
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I don't think you can have a save after the point for True End. All the requirements are on the last day IIRC.
Remco32
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WhoAteFred wrote:

I don't think you can have a save after the point for True End. All the requirements are on the last day IIRC.
Yeah, it seems that you must tackle all the subbosses in the dungeon without going out of the TV to regain all your HP/SP. Anyone has tips, I'm already having trouble during the first subboss.
Ivalset
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I don't even remember what those subbosses are. What's getting you killed?
Mogsy
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Buffs, debuffs and grinding are all you need to take down these subbosses. That first subboss is the hardest, though, mostly because if you're taking it on when you're supposed to, you have your frailest party members plus an enemy that uses Rampage very early on. Just grind like a motherfucker.
Remco32
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Ivalset wrote:

I don't even remember what those subbosses are. What's getting you killed?
SPOILER

The bossbattle isn't really the problem, I'm sure I can win that one with some trial and error (and savestates). My biggest concern is SP. I'm afraid I will waste too much SP during the dungeon itself, so I can't take on the final boss.

Mogsworth wrote:

Just grind like a motherfucker.
So grinding doesn't really sound like an option.
WhoAteFred
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Nonsense, grind through low-level dungeons for SP recovery items. Use SP Arcana Chances if needed (Death and Fortune IIRC). Fuse something with Cool Breeze/Victory Cry/Invigorate 3. Level up Rise for Invigorating Wave.

Or just pay the fox.
Remco32
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Nonsense, grind through low-level dungeons for SP recovery items.
I'm already 'stuck' in the final dungeon.
Use SP Arcana Chances if needed (Death and Fortune IIRC).
Wat. The chance of getting the right arcana chance at the right time is way to small to rely on.
Fuse something with Cool Breeze/Victory Cry/Invigorate 3. Level up Rise for Invigorating Wave.
A possibility, yes.
Or just pay the fox.
I'll be broke before I'm at the final boss.
rust45
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If you talk to the characters in the hub, they will take you to their dungeon, and Teddie leads you to the other two.
Loginer
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This trick saved my life when I was several levels short of fusing Trumpeter for the final boss.

Needed -
Persona that Nulls/Repels physical
Null Rage (VERY IMPORTANT)
Weapon with low crit rate and enough attack power to 2-shot babies (no bats/reaper weapon)

Optional -
Stat-boosting armor/EXP raising armor.

Strategy:
1. Encounter Pringle King x2 (harder than it sounds)
2. Kill off party.
3. Wait for babies to be summoned.
4. Target 1 baby with regular attack
5. Hit triangle
6. Do whatever for 8 hours 20-25 minutes.
7. Revive team
8. Kill kings.
And don't use save states next time you play a game. Relying on them too much in an RPG means you'll always be underleveled, which means you have to keep abusing them to progress. Eventually, you'll always end up in the situation you're in right now. Same thing applies to action games: Your skills will never improve if you keep using save states, so as the game gets more and more difficult, you'll end up using more and more save states to compensate.

Also, there's no real satisfaction to be had in cheating your way through a difficult game.
Ivalset
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Invigorate 3 and null/repel physical is all you need, and honestly you should have had that shit in like the second dungeon (at least in the case of invigorate).
adam2046
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Been playing Persona 1 for PSP and regretting starting on Normal as the game is easy as hell. It's also tedious as hell to play with random encounters every 10 steps.
Kind of wish they had just gone for a full remake of the game or at least a complete overhaul of the battles/encounters.
Mostly enjoying the game overall and I'm happy the game came with the full soundtrack (except the english version lacks the cool butterfly cover).
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yeah ! persona3 fes arrived my home !

Remco32
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I'm currently playing Nocturne. I just beat Matador.
LadySuburu
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Remco32 wrote:

I'm currently playing Nocturne. I just beat Matador.
Doing the same here, working on Daisoujou at the moment.

I had to grind three levels and "evolve" two demons to beat matador. Apperently level 18 isn't enough without using cheap tactics.
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LadySuburu wrote:

I had to grind three levels and "evolve" two demons to beat matador. Apperently level 18 isn't enough without using cheap tactics.
Depends entirely on what mode you're on. On Normal, I beat Matador rather low (I think 14?). Think I managed to do that around 16 on the hardest difficulty.

I also beat Thor at level 20.
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Mogsy and his debuffs.
Remco32
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LadySuburu wrote:

Remco32 wrote:

I'm currently playing Nocturne. I just beat Matador.
Doing the same here, working on Daisoujou at the moment.

I had to grind three levels and "evolve" two demons to beat matador. Apperently level 18 isn't enough without using cheap tactics.
I was down to two demons including myself when I dealt the finishing blow.
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RL Link wrote:

Mogsy and his debuffs.
Debuffs are pro. All the time.
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if you were italian you could have played the Persona GDR By Forum that i'm creating :D
Remco32
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Just beat Thor. Wasn't all that difficult.
So awesome that Dante appeared in the game.
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Weird, I picked Nocturne back up again two days ago and apparently a bunch of people did as well. Hivemind or some shit.
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I used a def buff on my team, but that's it for matador on hard. I wasn't clearing his agi buff, and I didn't use Dark Might / Bright Might, ect...

I keep trying to play and getting gimped right as I'm going back to save. <.<
Remco32
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http://www.mayonaka-tv.jp/
Ivalset
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Instantly awful because the MC's name isn't Souji Seta.

v. tragic
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Remco32 wrote:

http://www.mayonaka-tv.jp/
askdfjklasdfjlkasdfjlsdk;fjsdl;kfj omg omgomgomg OMG

Ivalset wrote:

Instantly awful because the MC's name isn't Souji Seta.
:( :( :( :( :(
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Souji Seta wrote:

Yu's not me!
Ivalset
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Ban this filth.
Ivalset
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http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/0 ... elopments/

Persona 4 port for PSV, Persona 3/4 crossover fighting game for arcade, then ps3/360.

Time to get a vita, motherfuckers.
rust45
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I literally just heard this from my brother. P4V will be sweet as it won't cut stuff and will add a lot of stuff. And the fighting game I may just get since it's being done by the same guys as Blazblue.
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I'm actually more excited about the fighting game than P4V.

I'd be more excited about P4V if there was a female MC, but I guess they can't use that gimmick again.
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Persona Team Intimately Involved in Persona 4 Fighting Game Development

Latest details on this week's unexpected Persona announcement.

Posted on 08.31.2011 at 12:17, by Anoop Gantayat

The big shocker from this week's Famitsu is Persona 4: The Ultimate in Mayonaka, an HD fighting game based of Persona 4. A few additional details have surfaced since word of the game first broke earlier in the day.

As detailed earlier (see this story), The Ultimate in Mayonaka is being developed by the BlazBlue staff at Arc System Works. But the Persona team appears to be intimately involved.

Speaking with Famitsu, the game's producer, Arc's Toshimichi Mori, said that he was shocked when Atlus came to them with the offer to work on the title. The BlazBlue team includes many fans of the Persona series, so their motivation for the project was very high, he said.

The Persona team didn't want to just have the BlazBlue team develop the game for them. Instead, they wanted the game to be a joint development project. According to Mori, game's director Takumi Iguchiya (whom you'll recognize as the lead programmer on the BlazBlue series) is working closely with the Persona team.

In addition to the commentary Mori, we have a list of modes that appears in Famitsu:

Arcade Mode: Face off against CPU opponents while following the story
Story Mode: Delve deeper into the arcade mode's story. This will be exclusive to the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game.
Score Attack Mode: Face off against CPU opponents to get the high score
VS Mode: Face off against a CPU or human opponent
Online Battle: Face off against players throughout the world in online combat (I imagine that can be taken as confirmation of an international release...)

The game will include original stories for all its included characters, which come from both Persona 4 and Persona 3. The overarching story is set two yeas after the events of Persona 4. The characters appear on a fighting program called "P-1 Grand Prix."

The Ultimate in Mayonaka will be released first to arcades in Spring 2012. The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions will follow in the summer.
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A persona based fighting game? now this is a feast
Derekku
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Agnes was telling me about this an hour ago. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I love it
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I'm intrigued by this fighting game announcement. Can't wait for more info :D
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I'm actually really curious to how they'll implement personas in the fighting game. And I hope the story mode will be as deep as the Blazblue story.
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Ivalset wrote:

I'm actually more excited about the fighting game than P4V.

I'd be more excited about P4V if there was a female MC, but I guess they can't use that gimmick again.
What, why not? I'm enjoying my second playthrough of Persona 3 much more in P3P since I can play as FeMC now. It makes the game feel fresh again.
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Because then they'd have to do a thousand more voiceovers changing "big bro" to "big sis".
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That didn't seem a problem with P3P?
rust45
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Yeah, and they also have a new character.
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They have more anime cutscenes too!

But really, apart from the opening that plays before the title screen, the animation in those games is fucking horrible

ditto the one I saw in Catherine. I appreciate the thought, Atlus, but your in-game rendering is a thousand times more expressive than that 2fps bullshit
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This...this hype...

I can't control it.
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Never More -Reincarnation: Persona 4- is out. Remixes of all the good shit.

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Talking about remixes...this one is my favourite.
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Well hello there
Ivalset
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Gross, this isn't the osu! forum.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/15/pe ... persona-3/

Mitsuru Kirijo and Akihiko Sanada for p4u. Best game or best game?!

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Oh my god.
Best character migration in living memory.
I sense Death Fanservice.
Mitsuru seems to quite literally have a lightsaber (lightepee?)
Akihiko's wearing a cape? Boo.
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Ivalset wrote:

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/15/persoan-4-the-ultimate-in-mayonaka-arena-adds-two-more-guests-from-persona-3/

Mitsuru Kirijo and Akihiko Sanada for p4u. Best game or best game?!

HOLY HOT DAMN.
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I'm not going to lie, shirtless akihiko gets me more excited than he should.

This is alarming.

Still probably going to main Chie or Mitsuru though, so at least that's intact.



I guess she's wearing a fur coat, actually? Jesus.
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I would like Yukari and/or Minato to be in the game.

Also, to be honest, a general Shin Megami Tensei fighting game would have been better. I mean, we need more Demi-Fiend and Raidou Kuzunoha. Serph as well.
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Wow, Mitsuru's fur coat looks a lot better ingame, that looks awesome.
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What's the point of Akihiko wearing a cape? Other than that this sounds really amazing. I'm still curious as to how Personas are going to be involved in the fighting.
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I personally think he's wearing a cape because he's shirtless. He's badass enough to be shirtless but not really.

Edit: Just read somewhere that it's actually not a cape, and it's like a gym jacket or something without wearing the sleeves. Look really close at it.

I mean yeah, it's worn like a cape, but it's not technically a cape, I guess.
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This game is getting better by the hour.
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http://www.dualshockers.com/2011/11/26/ ... s-figures/



I'LL TAKE TWELVE SETS
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Minato deserves a spot in P4u, but it would be nice if there you could have a Persona as a character itself (e.g. Orpheus, Thanatos, Beelzebub?).
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Mara is the best

A gigantic chariot-riding penis with god-tier absorbs
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Oh god, the best.
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why is he wearing a cape
Ivalset
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Probably because he's not manly enough to be just shirtless.
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