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rust45
If you talk to the characters in the hub, they will take you to their dungeon, and Teddie leads you to the other two.
Loginer
This trick saved my life when I was several levels short of fusing Trumpeter for the final boss.

Needed -
Persona that Nulls/Repels physical
Null Rage (VERY IMPORTANT)
Weapon with low crit rate and enough attack power to 2-shot babies (no bats/reaper weapon)

Optional -
Stat-boosting armor/EXP raising armor.

Strategy:
1. Encounter Pringle King x2 (harder than it sounds)
2. Kill off party.
3. Wait for babies to be summoned.
4. Target 1 baby with regular attack
5. Hit triangle
6. Do whatever for 8 hours 20-25 minutes.
7. Revive team
8. Kill kings.
And don't use save states next time you play a game. Relying on them too much in an RPG means you'll always be underleveled, which means you have to keep abusing them to progress. Eventually, you'll always end up in the situation you're in right now. Same thing applies to action games: Your skills will never improve if you keep using save states, so as the game gets more and more difficult, you'll end up using more and more save states to compensate.

Also, there's no real satisfaction to be had in cheating your way through a difficult game.
Ivalset
Invigorate 3 and null/repel physical is all you need, and honestly you should have had that shit in like the second dungeon (at least in the case of invigorate).
adam2046
Been playing Persona 1 for PSP and regretting starting on Normal as the game is easy as hell. It's also tedious as hell to play with random encounters every 10 steps.
Kind of wish they had just gone for a full remake of the game or at least a complete overhaul of the battles/encounters.
Mostly enjoying the game overall and I'm happy the game came with the full soundtrack (except the english version lacks the cool butterfly cover).
Vendemmia



yeah ! persona3 fes arrived my home !

Remco32
I'm currently playing Nocturne. I just beat Matador.
LadySuburu

Remco32 wrote:

I'm currently playing Nocturne. I just beat Matador.
Doing the same here, working on Daisoujou at the moment.

I had to grind three levels and "evolve" two demons to beat matador. Apperently level 18 isn't enough without using cheap tactics.
Mogsy

LadySuburu wrote:

I had to grind three levels and "evolve" two demons to beat matador. Apperently level 18 isn't enough without using cheap tactics.
Depends entirely on what mode you're on. On Normal, I beat Matador rather low (I think 14?). Think I managed to do that around 16 on the hardest difficulty.

I also beat Thor at level 20.
Bestelle
Mogsy and his debuffs.
Remco32

LadySuburu wrote:

Remco32 wrote:

I'm currently playing Nocturne. I just beat Matador.
Doing the same here, working on Daisoujou at the moment.

I had to grind three levels and "evolve" two demons to beat matador. Apperently level 18 isn't enough without using cheap tactics.
I was down to two demons including myself when I dealt the finishing blow.
Mogsy

RL Link wrote:

Mogsy and his debuffs.
Debuffs are pro. All the time.
HakuNoKaemi
if you were italian you could have played the Persona GDR By Forum that i'm creating :D
Remco32
Just beat Thor. Wasn't all that difficult.
So awesome that Dante appeared in the game.
Ivalset
Weird, I picked Nocturne back up again two days ago and apparently a bunch of people did as well. Hivemind or some shit.
LadySuburu
I used a def buff on my team, but that's it for matador on hard. I wasn't clearing his agi buff, and I didn't use Dark Might / Bright Might, ect...

I keep trying to play and getting gimped right as I'm going back to save. <.<
Remco32
Ivalset
Instantly awful because the MC's name isn't Souji Seta.

v. tragic
Derekku

Remco32 wrote:

http://www.mayonaka-tv.jp/
askdfjklasdfjlkasdfjlsdk;fjsdl;kfj omg omgomgomg OMG

Ivalset wrote:

Instantly awful because the MC's name isn't Souji Seta.
:( :( :( :( :(
Sinistro

Souji Seta wrote:

Yu's not me!
Ivalset
adam2046
Ban this filth.
Ivalset
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/0 ... elopments/

Persona 4 port for PSV, Persona 3/4 crossover fighting game for arcade, then ps3/360.

Time to get a vita, motherfuckers.
rust45
I literally just heard this from my brother. P4V will be sweet as it won't cut stuff and will add a lot of stuff. And the fighting game I may just get since it's being done by the same guys as Blazblue.
Ivalset
I'm actually more excited about the fighting game than P4V.

I'd be more excited about P4V if there was a female MC, but I guess they can't use that gimmick again.
Zerostarry
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/0 ... me_update/

Persona Team Intimately Involved in Persona 4 Fighting Game Development

Latest details on this week's unexpected Persona announcement.

Posted on 08.31.2011 at 12:17, by Anoop Gantayat

The big shocker from this week's Famitsu is Persona 4: The Ultimate in Mayonaka, an HD fighting game based of Persona 4. A few additional details have surfaced since word of the game first broke earlier in the day.

As detailed earlier (see this story), The Ultimate in Mayonaka is being developed by the BlazBlue staff at Arc System Works. But the Persona team appears to be intimately involved.

Speaking with Famitsu, the game's producer, Arc's Toshimichi Mori, said that he was shocked when Atlus came to them with the offer to work on the title. The BlazBlue team includes many fans of the Persona series, so their motivation for the project was very high, he said.

The Persona team didn't want to just have the BlazBlue team develop the game for them. Instead, they wanted the game to be a joint development project. According to Mori, game's director Takumi Iguchiya (whom you'll recognize as the lead programmer on the BlazBlue series) is working closely with the Persona team.

In addition to the commentary Mori, we have a list of modes that appears in Famitsu:

Arcade Mode: Face off against CPU opponents while following the story
Story Mode: Delve deeper into the arcade mode's story. This will be exclusive to the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game.
Score Attack Mode: Face off against CPU opponents to get the high score
VS Mode: Face off against a CPU or human opponent
Online Battle: Face off against players throughout the world in online combat (I imagine that can be taken as confirmation of an international release...)

The game will include original stories for all its included characters, which come from both Persona 4 and Persona 3. The overarching story is set two yeas after the events of Persona 4. The characters appear on a fighting program called "P-1 Grand Prix."

The Ultimate in Mayonaka will be released first to arcades in Spring 2012. The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions will follow in the summer.
Sallad4ever
A persona based fighting game? now this is a feast
Derekku
Agnes was telling me about this an hour ago. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I love it
Luna
I'm intrigued by this fighting game announcement. Can't wait for more info :D
rust45
I'm actually really curious to how they'll implement personas in the fighting game. And I hope the story mode will be as deep as the Blazblue story.
Remco32

Ivalset wrote:

I'm actually more excited about the fighting game than P4V.

I'd be more excited about P4V if there was a female MC, but I guess they can't use that gimmick again.
What, why not? I'm enjoying my second playthrough of Persona 3 much more in P3P since I can play as FeMC now. It makes the game feel fresh again.
Ivalset
Because then they'd have to do a thousand more voiceovers changing "big bro" to "big sis".
Remco32
That didn't seem a problem with P3P?
rust45
Yeah, and they also have a new character.
awp
They have more anime cutscenes too!

But really, apart from the opening that plays before the title screen, the animation in those games is fucking horrible

ditto the one I saw in Catherine. I appreciate the thought, Atlus, but your in-game rendering is a thousand times more expressive than that 2fps bullshit
Ivalset


This...this hype...

I can't control it.
Ivalset
Never More -Reincarnation: Persona 4- is out. Remixes of all the good shit.

Tetsu_old
Talking about remixes...this one is my favourite.
Derekku
Ivalset
Gross, this isn't the osu! forum.
Ivalset
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/15/pe ... persona-3/

Mitsuru Kirijo and Akihiko Sanada for p4u. Best game or best game?!

Sinistro
Oh my god.
Best character migration in living memory.
I sense Death Fanservice.
Mitsuru seems to quite literally have a lightsaber (lightepee?)
Akihiko's wearing a cape? Boo.
Haseo_old

Ivalset wrote:

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/15/persoan-4-the-ultimate-in-mayonaka-arena-adds-two-more-guests-from-persona-3/

Mitsuru Kirijo and Akihiko Sanada for p4u. Best game or best game?!

HOLY HOT DAMN.
Ivalset
I'm not going to lie, shirtless akihiko gets me more excited than he should.

This is alarming.

Still probably going to main Chie or Mitsuru though, so at least that's intact.



I guess she's wearing a fur coat, actually? Jesus.
Norbi
I would like Yukari and/or Minato to be in the game.

Also, to be honest, a general Shin Megami Tensei fighting game would have been better. I mean, we need more Demi-Fiend and Raidou Kuzunoha. Serph as well.
Ivalset


Wow, Mitsuru's fur coat looks a lot better ingame, that looks awesome.
rust45
What's the point of Akihiko wearing a cape? Other than that this sounds really amazing. I'm still curious as to how Personas are going to be involved in the fighting.
Ivalset
I personally think he's wearing a cape because he's shirtless. He's badass enough to be shirtless but not really.

Edit: Just read somewhere that it's actually not a cape, and it's like a gym jacket or something without wearing the sleeves. Look really close at it.

I mean yeah, it's worn like a cape, but it's not technically a cape, I guess.
Sinistro
MitsuruExecutesYukiko.png
This game is getting better by the hour.
Derekku
Haseo_old
Minato deserves a spot in P4u, but it would be nice if there you could have a Persona as a character itself (e.g. Orpheus, Thanatos, Beelzebub?).
awp
Mara is the best

A gigantic chariot-riding penis with god-tier absorbs
Ivalset


Oh god, the best.
Two_old
why is he wearing a cape
Ivalset
Probably because he's not manly enough to be just shirtless.
Two_old


I like this better
Ivalset
Looks so wasteful, and doesn't include kicking someone in the chest. 6/10
Bestelle
Zzzzz Yukiko. Although, that Mitsuru one looked awesome. Pretty hype for Mitsuru.
rust45
Why does Yukiko have more meter than other characters? And yeah, that was pretty boring and it didn't even do that much damage despite using 150 meter.
Ivalset
When you drop below a certain amount of health, you go into some kind of awakening mode and your current and maximum meter increase by 50.

Oh, son of a bitch, looks like Mitsuru is a charge character. I...might have to stick to Chie. Or Naoto.
rust45
Anyway, MC combo for you.

Derekku


"Your order was placed successfully!"

Non-glasses set available too for a total of 17 "different" figures. I'll just take the best ones, though. 8-)

EDIT: Full sets available on j-list, but obviously I shouldn't link to that here since there's some NSFW things on the site. >w>;
Ivalset
Those look fucking awful.

Except Adachi, somehow.
heintsi
hmm. they dont look as bad as i thought, but no. Chie looks bit too weird to me.

P4 figures would look so much better if made by goodsmile >:

On the other note, this looks really good, but got to lift my pre-order off cause of my weak money situation.. I kind of regret doing that now. http://www.hlj.com/product/ALT20272
Ivalset
The only persona figure I'd ever consider getting would be one of Metis.
Sinistro
Unfortunately for you, Derek, Kanji looks the worst out of them all. Seriously, that's close to not even looking like him.
Derekku

Sinistro wrote:

Unfortunately for you, Derek, Kanji looks the worst out of them all. Seriously, that's close to not even looking like him.
Yeah... ): I think I read somewhere that the designs aren't finalized, so hopefully he'll look better when they're released...

Also, I wonder who the two "secret" characters are. I'd say Dojima/Nanako or maybe human Teddie.
awp

heintsi wrote:

http://www.hlj.com/product/ALT20272
wait I thought it was Aigis
heintsi

awp wrote:

heintsi wrote:

http://www.hlj.com/product/ALT20272
wait I thought it was Aigis
Thought it was typo at first, too. But it seems that in jap version of P3 she's called Aegis and in NA/EU ver she's called Aigis.
Derekku
I haven't played P3 yet, so I always thought it was Aegis.

Silly translations. :V
awp
Ironic that it's the robot without the spell check
Ivalset
I'm sure it was intentional
heintsi
Preordered SMT: Devil survivor 2 and also ordered strange journey at same time. Dunno if i'll actually play the game in near future though because i already have save in Strange Journey where i'm almost at end. I just thought it would be nice addition to collection as it didn't even cost much in play-asia, only 16 bucks. Really hyped over Devil survivor 2, although I know they didn't change really anything in battle system, but story is all that counts for me and I liked the DS1 battle system, so why change?
heintsi
Bump, but damn. I'm getting the feeling that DS2 will be delayed as they haven't even got preorder/website ready and release is on 22nd day.. ah well. Hopefully they are gonna release it and not stop translating it.
awp
I've gotten to the point in Persona 3 where all the characters have started becoming likeable

yyyyay
Ivalset
Mitsuru the best
Sinistro

heintsi wrote:

Bump, but damn. I'm getting the feeling that DS2 will be delayed as they haven't even got preorder/website ready and release is on 22nd day.. ah well. Hopefully they are gonna release it and not stop translating it.
Speak of the Devil (Survivor), because the site's now up. Wait, 22nd? Thought it was on the 28th.
heintsi
That answer got me smiling. Glad to hear so i didn't spend my pennies for nothing. And you are right, seems to be 28th. Guess I took false information by browsing amazon and their release dates are never 100% correct.
Hopefully MC isn't jerk in this one, others characters feel quite ok to me. But wow, how could they make the story sound so bland on the site? Still hyped.
DavisWTG
Well, I guess that I'm also excited about Devil Survivor 2, since I enjoyed the first game very much. Though, there is one thing that made me think lately, it's about the Persona Fighting Game, and I think noone pointed it out yet. Back then when Akihiko and Mitsuru weren't confirmed as character, I recall that on the website, the part about the characters to be exact, was empty, but the slots were there. Now, all of the ten slots for playable characters are filled (I consider the slot in the middle as the "Random" option, since the P4 MC will most likely be the character in the middle), but if you look at the Special/Twitter Icon-section of the website, there is still one icon missing. I'm wondering which character that could be. Hopefully not Fuuka as another commentator...
Remco32
*gasp* The Enemy!

I'm not into fighting games but isn't just 10 characters a little meager?
Ivalset
Nope, 10 is about normal. There are of course games with much more than that, but 10 is reasonable for the first in a series.

http://inbirth.info/character.html - Another fighting game in development, 11 characters
DavisWTG
Yeah, it's normal. To name a more or less well-known example, the first part of the SSB-series also only had 12 characters.

Ah well, still don't hope that it isn't Fuuka who is left...
awp
Fuuka in a fighting game? Can't really see that. That'd be like...Nanako.
Ivalset
awp
Akihiko doesn't look much like Akihiko
Ivalset
Well, devil survivor 2 is...*whistles*
Remco32

Ivalset wrote:

Well, devil survivor 2 is...*whistles*
Leaked! Leaked! Is the word we're looking for leaked?
MMzz
>red skin kanji, dafuq
Ivalset

Remco32 wrote:

Ivalset wrote:

Well, devil survivor 2 is...*whistles*
Leaked! Leaked! Is the word we're looking for leaked?
Dammit Remco, we're not looking for words. We're trying to keep this on the down low, so we can pretend to be legitimate.

Apparently some stores broke street date, and that may or may not have caused it to become available by other means.
Drakari_old
Question for all: Is Persona 3 Portable worth $40 as opposed to just waiting for Persona 4: The Golden or playing FES on an emulator?
Remco32

Drakari wrote:

Question for all: Is Persona 3 Portable worth $40 as opposed to just waiting for Persona 4: The Golden or playing FES on an emulator?
$40, nah.
I bought a PSP secondhand to play it though, but I wouldn't spend 40 bucks on the game on it's own. I wouldn't spend that amount of cash on any game, though.
DawnII
Sup with those glasses Akihiko. Sup with those palette swaps. SUP.
awp
SUMMON
UR
PERSONA
Ivalset
Devil Survivor 2 is so good.

Fumi is the best so far.
DavisWTG
It seems like the final character for P4U was revealed. Although there isn't anything on the official website, it seems like there'll be a character named Labrys, at least according to the Megami Tensei-Wiki.Also, since there are already screenshots of her around, I doubt it's a fake. Though, she only appeared in a drama CD of P3 so far... I wonder how she'll be like.
Also, started Devil Survivor a few days ago. It's awesome so far, I have to admit. Favorite character so far would be Ronaldo, although I have to admit that I also like Fumi and Jungo. Maybe my final team will consist of them, then. Don't know how Ronaldo's stats will develop, though, since he didn't join my team up until now...
Ivalset
Fuck Ronaldo. What a douchebag.

My ideal team is Fumi, Makoto and Otome, but I really wish Makoto didn't have so much magic; there are a lot of skills I'd like to use with her but she winds up not having enough str/vit/agi and she's kicking around a bunch of magic that she doesn't need. I think Hinako has a better stat distribution but holy shit is she annoying.

I actually wish I had run with a physical MC this time around, since Fumi is more than adequate for magic.

As far as P4U is concerned, I'm kind of disappointed with Labrys. I'd much rather have had Metis instead if I had to have another robot, but I'd really have preferred some persona 2 cast members or maybe even Raidou or something.
awp
James Labrys

I think I'm getting near the end of P3 now. Elizabeth and Aigis are still my favourite characters
SereneMidnight_old
It's been a while since I played the first two SMT games. That should be fixed sometime in the near future... *Too busy with MGS at the moment*
Ivalset
There, beat devil survivor 2 on the Anguished One's route.

Fumi still the best.

Evil Flow is an awesome racial skill, as much as I disliked using evil/chaos wave.
Remco32
Hi guys I finally beat Nocturne am I a real Fatlus now? Went with the neutral ending
Gonna finish P3P soon too, 2 weeks left in the game or so.
DavisWTG
I'm on The Anguished One's route as well, though I can say that I still need a little bit until I'll finish it. Reached the final mission, but I definitely want to get Lucifer before I finish the game to carry it over. I heard that the system how you carry over things is the same like in Devil Survivor Overclocked, so if that's true... then I want to have at least one good demon that I can carry over. Also, my team is almost like I expected it - Jungo and Fumi are in it, though the fourth character is the one of my ending route. Concerning the stats, I decided to go for getting the highest stats for Strength and Agility, the rest for vitality with a little bit into Magic (I think he has 9 points there). And man, Multi-Strike definitely hurts this way. Too bad that four characters couldn't join me, though - I hate it that I couldn't get Hinako and Otome because the Fate Link was too low.
Anyways, I think my next run would be either Ronaldo's or Daichi's route - that depends on my mood, I guess.
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