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rust45
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Well, just beat Yuzu's ending on Devil Survivor after a lot of grinding and fusing much better demons. Still, I think I got lucky with Amane and Inzuna cause I beat both of them first time I initiated battle. I supposed it helped that I had 31 magic and Holy Dance.

On the New Game+ now and it's really easy, can't wait till I get near the end where it might start to be a challenge again.
Ivalset
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Damn, playing Strange Journey now. Sooo good. I'd say it's better than Devil Survivor, but that's entirely dependant on what you want from a game; SRPGs are a bit low on my list of enjoyment.
DawnII
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Haven't gotten to Strange Journey yet, but I got these Demon Passwords in the e-mail. Dunno if people already know about these.

"Left hand freeze
Right hand shock"
"Prophecy of wind"
"Thick red skin"
"Soothing ice"
rust45
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rust45

Ivalset wrote:

Damn, playing Strange Journey now. Sooo good. I'd say it's better than Devil Survivor, but that's entirely dependant on what you want from a game; SRPGs are a bit low on my list of enjoyment.
I kinda enjoy SRPGs more due to the fact I get a better feeling of depth in battles. Me, I haven't played Strange Journey much at all (in fact I have to start over cause somehow my brother overwrote my file) but it felt good to play, but I never got to those poison, sleep, and damage floors my brother keeps having trouble with.
Remco32
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Remco32
On what do you guys base which characters you bring in Persona (3/4)? I'm currently playing P3FES and I encounter the same problem I had in P4: I don't know who I should bring. I just keep using the same characters now.
Bestelle
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Joined November 2009
Bestelle
Buffs, attacker, and healer on most cases for P3. This was partly because I went against the final boss with low level Personas(quite literally, most of mine were 10 or more levels below me, and my healer was Titania). Of course while playing through you have to consider elements during the floor boss fights. What they're weak against, they're strengths, etc.
Unless they have neither so just go with whatever works.
Triplicity
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Joined April 2008
Triplicity

Remco32 wrote:

On what do you guys base which characters you bring in Persona (3/4)? I'm currently playing P3FES and I encounter the same problem I had in P4: I don't know who I should bring. I just keep using the same characters now.
I played it ultra safe in P4 and used Yosuke, Yukiko, and Teddie for the majority of the game. A bit lacking in raw damage potential, especially physical, but covers three of the four elements (with the MC picking up the slack of course, Electricity in this case), all three have healing skills, two can revive, and all three buffs are covered with Teddie and Yosuke.
The main weaknesses I ran into other than low damage were that Yukiko and Teddie BOTH don't lose their weaknesses when their personae evolve and naturally, Teddie's walking noise.
Mogsy
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Revival of the MegaTen thread due to the N.A. release of Persona 3 Portable.

FeMC actually makes playing through this game again a hell of a lot more worth it. Interesting to see how the game works in this new perspective. It is still P3 with a P4 skin, though, so if you enjoyed how P4 functioned (direct control of party members, protag only being able to equip one weapon type, square-jump, etc.), you'd enjoy how P3P plays.
Remco32
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Remco32
Almost done with Persona 3 btw. I'm loving it.
Ivalset
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Man, I got like the best skillchange on a Principality.



Does like 2-4 hits of 100-150 slash damage to all foes, pretty high hit rate too. I think it's the Persona 4 version, because I remember the persona 3 version being 1-3 hits or singletarget. Probably just going to use him the entire game and just add skills to him with skillcards.

Maniac is a breeze so far, aside from a few gigas sonic punch ohkos.
rust45
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I haven't done maniac yet, I'm planning on doing it with the male MC after a do a couple playthroughs with the female. I am enjoying the new stuff for the female MC though. So far I'm close to the first full moon battle.
Ivalset
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Oh man, the Vision Quest bosses are pretty awesome. Sure, they're just rehashes of old fights, but they're actually pretty difficult at around level 70. The puzzle rooms are cool too, and give a shitload of items (like 10 of each king card, 10 of each queen card, and several skill cards: arms master, spell master, power charge, mind charge, enduring soul)

Whee, random pics. Shuffle time screenshots always look awesome to me, everyone is just sort of doing their own thing.



Santa and maid outfits.



And the succubus I've been using for the entire game. Skillcards are ridiculous.

rust45
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Holy crap, max Strength at level 67? How'd you pull that off?
Ivalset
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Some Kings of Swords. I had a lot of onyx lying around, so I put them to use. It's now level 85 with 99/99/72/94/99.
Remco32
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So I just got to the last part op Persona 3, and I have a question about it.
So for killing the last miniboss in Tartarus the Nix annihilation team social link got maxed. Since Nix is 'unbeatable', am I supposed to fuse Messiah in order to win the battle?
Please don't use spoilers :(
GladiOol
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Remco32 wrote:

So I just got to the last part op Persona 3, and I have a question about it.
So for killing the last miniboss in Tartarus the Nix annihilation team social link got maxed. Since Nix is 'unbeatable', am I supposed to fuse Messiah in order to win the battle?
Please don't use spoilers :(
SPOILER IT DO IT
Ivalset
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Remco32 wrote:

So I just got to the last part op Persona 3, and I have a question about it.
So for killing the last miniboss in Tartarus the Nix annihilation team social link got maxed. Since Nix is 'unbeatable', am I supposed to fuse Messiah in order to win the battle?
Please don't use spoilers :(
No, not at all. The last boss of persona 4 was supposedly unbeatable as well.
Remco32
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That saves me some grinding, thanks.
Remco32
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Remco32
I finally finished Persona 3: FES. The final boss took me 100 minutes.
The credits are now rolling and I still have some burning question
Didn't the PC die after fighting Nix?
What happened after the PC closed his eyes on the roof with Aigis?
If you killed Rioyi (or how you're supposed to spell it), life just goes one and the world didn't end. How could that happen?
What happens in The Answer?
What is different in new game +?

Persona 3 is an awesome game. Might be the best JRPG I have ever played. The ingame counter says that I played for 70 hours. I'm not sure how accurate that is, since I was playing on an emulator speeding up thing and quicksaving/loading.
Bestelle
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Bestelle

Remco32 wrote:

Didn't the PC die after fighting Nix?
What happened after the PC closed his eyes on the roof with Aigis?
If you killed Rioyi (or how you're supposed to spell it), life just goes one and the world didn't end. How could that happen?
1. Explained in The Answer
2. Explained in the Answer, ask someone else to tell you for I am lazy.
3.Technically, it does. The ending on that is showing they're oblivious about what's going to happen. So they don't know that the world is in fact going to end, hence the whole partying, etc.
Mogsy
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So, I actually want thoughts on Nocturne. Since I'm possibly getting it in a few days. So, thoughts.
rust45
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I've played a bit of Nocturne, playing it on hard mode, died in the tutorial fight. When I got to Matador and couldn't beat him after hours of grinding, I went "fuck this" and started a normal playthrough. Haven't gotten to where I am in the hard file though.
Ivalset
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Nocturne owns and you will love it.
Bestelle
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Bestelle

Ivalset wrote:

Nocturne owns and you will love it.
Pretty much this.

Prepare to grind.
Remco32
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Remco32
Ordered a free Jack Frost mousepad.

I already love it!
Remco32
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Remco32
Could someone explain to me how the stats (like Strength, Magic, Endurance, etc) work?
Ivalset
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Strength increases damage dealt with normal attacks and physical skills. It works against the opponent's endurance.
Magic increases damage dealt with magical skills. Also works against the opponent's endurance.
Endurance reduces all damage taken.
Agility determines evasion, accuracy, and turn order (aside from boss fights, in which turn order is fixed).
Luck affects critical hit chance, evasion, status ailment resistance and instant death resistance.

For an example of how strength and endurance work, we can look at the damage formula for Persona 4 (obtained here)

Damage = 5 x sqrt(ST/EN x ATK) x MOD x HITS X RND

DMG = Damage
ST = Character's Strength stat
EN = Enemy's Endurance stat
ATK = Atk value of equipped weapon OR Pwr value of used skill
MOD = Modifier based on the difference between character level and enemy level
HITS= Number of hits (for physical skills)
RND = Randomness factor
DawnII
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This trailer fucking rocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZfTlqB-xyc
Mogsy
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Catherine is a game I am getting day one if/when it gets released over here. It looks interesting, and is quite the step for Atlus.

lol@Vincent's P3P cameo, though
Bestelle
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Bestelle
What Mogsworth said. Day 1 for me.
Remco32
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Remco32

My first ever 5-way fuse.
Also bumping this thread.
Bestelle
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Bestelle
Hee ho!
Haven't played any SMT in so long since I'm not really in the mood for turn based RPGs.
Remco32
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Remco32
SPOILER

Greatest bossbattle thusfar.
Remco32
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Remco32
Where's Teddie to be found in the game during the day? I want to get his social link higher, but I can't seem to find him anywhere. I just finished the videogame dungeon.
Mogsy
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His social link is automatic, like Death in P3.
Remco32
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I'm at what I think that is the final boss. I have one major issue with the fight: I run out of SP, and I don't have any effective SP restore items. Any tips?
rust45
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You mean, you don't even have any somas? I can't really think of anything to do, just what is the boss and what's your team?
Bestelle
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Bestelle
How does one run out of somas? Well, then again, I never use mine.
rust45
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I always save full restoration items for the final battle(s) Unless I get plenty (Like SJ when it came to beads), but still only for bosses. And then I try to keep some if the New Game+ carries on items.
Remco32
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rust45 wrote:

I always save full restoration items for the final battle(s) Unless I get plenty (Like SJ when it came to beads), but still only for bosses. And then I try to keep some if the New Game+ carries on items.
Yeah, me too. I only used a full HP/SP once IIRC. These are all the SP healing items I have:

How do I obtain somas?
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