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NIRGILIS - Kiseki (TV Size)

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Topic Starter
Yomeiro
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2011 at 19:36:06

Artist: NIRGILIS
Title: Kiseki (TV Size)
Source: Tetsuwan Birdy Decode
Tags: birdy the mighty
BPM: 135
Filesize: 10212kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,01 stars, 65 notes)
  2. Hard (4,48 stars, 146 notes)
  3. Insane (4,99 stars, 248 notes)
  4. Normal (2,86 stars, 113 notes)
Download: NIRGILIS - Kiseki (TV Size)
Download: NIRGILIS - Kiseki (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy: Done
Hard: Done
Insane: Done

Edit:
Added Weezy's Hard
Edit~:
Added Normal diff :o
Edit~~: Removed Weezy's Hard...
nimi
Hey there >w<

General
hmm, why don't you add kiai time in chorus? >_<

Easy
00:27:514 (2) - starting this slider at 00:27:291 and than extend it to 00:27:958
00:59:625 ~ 01:01:180 - I think you could do something here.. this blank is a little weird
00:13:847 ~ 00:15:402 - ^

Normal
Reduce a little the HP Drain Rate, Approach Rate and Overall Difficulty. (I'd say one tick is enough).
00:46:180 (5) - this slider is really off >< I'd delete and add a note at 00:46:402
00:51:291 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - don't make jumps in normal diff .-.'

Insane
00:03:291 (x) - add a note here
00:04:402 (1) - add another repeat to this slider
00:06:180 (1) - ^
00:43:069 (1) - remove new combo
00:46:624 (1) - ^
00:50:180 (1) - ^
Uhh, so many streams x_x'

Anyways, the map is really good. Keep going, and good luck ^.^
Firo Prochainezo
Didn't found anything wrong except the fact that you should change Normal to Hard and remove the claps from red ticks UNLESS it sounds good with it.

Good luck and have a star.
Topic Starter
Yomeiro
Thanks for the modding first off all to both of you :3
Made slight changes according to the modding

@Wiinter
I didn't add Kiai Time in the chorus or somewhere else because I'm not familiar with it ;_;
Kurai
~ General ~

00:57:736 - Start Kiai time here
01:29:736 - End kiai time here

~ Easy ~

01:18:625 (4) - Move 1 grid left for align with (2,3)

~ Hard ~

Approach rate +1
00:28:402 (4) - New combo
00:51:736 (6) - New combo
01:11:958 (1) - Move 1 grid right for a better spacing

~ Insane ~

00:26:069 (2,4,6) - Overmapping D: You should remove them
00:38:402 (5) - Bad Spacing, flip it vertically (ctrl + j)
00:41:958 (5) - ^
01:21:069 (8) - New combo

The map is fine, catch this star~
Hmm... don't forget, if a mod has been usefull, give a kudosu to the post. I've seen you 've didn't do that to Wiinter's mod~
ShadowSoul
Huebsche Map :3 Good Luck
Woshiwobi
nett :)
Sandpig
hi :D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)

from selee's queue


Insane

00:13:736 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - separate them or add new combo on 00:14:180 (3) and 00:14:625 (6). the arrangement here looks unclear
00:24:180 (8,1,2,3,4) - I think it is better to make them even (or reduce the distance between 8 and 1 like 00:27:736 (8,1))
00:38:402 (5,1) - anti jump. the arrangement here looks as if it were a halt
00:41:958 (5,1) - ^
01:01:291 (3) - new combo?

and I think the rhythm in Hard is better than that in this diff.
It seems that in some parts of this diff you focused on patterns but ignored the rhythm. for instance from 00:15:069 to 00:21:958 you have note on every 1/2 beat. the pattern is not bad but it plays boring. (same issue from 00:29:291 to 00:37:958)


Hard

00:46:402 (5) - add new combo here instead of 00:47:069 (1)


Easy

seems fine but I'd prefer if you have more notes in kiai time (more circles instead of long sliders and let the player make more clicks in kiai time)


not bad, star for you :P
Weez
General
- BG should be 1024*768 (I know not much difference don't have to change it since its only a tiny difference)
- Try to get a video file without the audio. PM me if you need help with that
- Under Storyboarding (in song setup) uncheck "Letterbox during breaks" its not being used

Easy
Fine

Hard
00:11:625 (1) Make the spinner start at 00:11:736 instead
01:22:754 (1) ^same starting at 01:22:847
01:25:958 (1) ^same 01:26:180

Insane
00:01:736 Add a beat
00:03:291 ^
00:05:069 ^
00:06:847^
00:11:625 (1) I think you know what the problem is here :P
00:22:513 (2,4,6) Remove those beats
00:23:958 Add a beat?
00:26:069 (2,4,6) Remove those beats
00:27:513 Add a beat?
00:54:291 (1) Do I have to repeat myself?
01:22:736 (1) ^that

During Kiai time there are moments where you just spam with beats
Example:
00:58:069 (2,4,6) Remove those
and this happens many time trough out the diff. So just go through it.

Insane needs alot of work but other then whats been stated its fine
Star POWER!
artpiggo
Hard is perfect for me

Insane
00 05 736 add whistle
00 09 291 too far, i think , maybe down it half way
00 19 736 new combo here
00 21 958 ^
00 24 847 (1,2,3,4) remove clap
00 28 402 ^
00 39 069 far jump , maybe up them until note1 is in ( 256,308 )

Nice one

You can get my star

Good Luck
wmfchris
[Insane]
00:02:625 (1~6) - I wonder this part has different spacing
00:14:847 (3) - right 1 lv4 grid
00:28:402 (1,2,3,4) - no need to make the rhombus pattern, http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/51462 ?
00:32:847 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - snap them a bit by grid lv4 to make it in equal spacing
better check with the spacings orz

[Hard]
00:23:513 (4) - up 2 lv4 grids
00:45:513 (4,1,2) - ^

star <_<
Weez
Sorry for the delay :/
lol at the end it didn't make much difference
http://puu.sh/MV7
If you do end up using this, delete the old one and the full submit!

Can I make a guest diff for this map, i fell in love with it >.<
Topic Starter
Yomeiro
Thanks for the vid :3

Uhm I don't mind if you would make a Guest Diff^^'
Tenshi-nyan
no kudosu

General
Try to add ~ 1,5 sec as lead-in time to all maps

Maps are fine... can't say a lot here.

Easy
01:04:847 (1) - change the shape of this slider.
Weez
And almost finished just needs hitsounds which I'll do later >.<

Remember to add "Weezy" to the tags for ALL the diffs :)

Download: NIRGILIS - Kiseki (TV Size) (Yomeiro) [Weezy's Hard].osu
Gonzvlo
General
  1. It's kinda odd having the offset in the middle of the map when you start mapping right when the song starts, it also bugs the pulsing menu, so place the offset here: 00:00:847 -
  2. The whole map, all the timing section increase volume by 2 ticks or more. It's not necessary to reduce the volume, the song is loud so there's no problem.
  3. I highly suggest to map "Normal", there is much difference between Easy and Hard, plus the song is short so it won't too long to map a normal.
  4. Add a preview point. (Timing -> Set Current Point as Preview Point)
  5. Lead in time is different for "Insane" diff.
Easy
  1. Linear sliders only ? Well mapping seems fine.
  2. But the difficulty setup is too high for easy, HPdrain: -3, AR: -2~3, OD: -2~3.
Hard
  1. Well spacing is bit high in this diff, but I guess it's ok for Hard, Just pointing that out.
  2. 00:51:736 (1,2,3,4,5) - I suggest to reduce these spacing, mainly because it's not a good place to place jumps imo. Just reduce it a bit.
  3. 01:26:180 (1) - You should finish this spinner adding "Finish" like you did on Easy and Insane.
Weezy's Hard
  1. 00:09:291 (3) - Why don't you stack this with the beginning of (1) , It looks nice.
  2. 00:22:180 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same suggestion here, this time with (3) and (6), mainly because while the circles are still fading out those overlaps don't look nice.
  3. 00:55:958 (1,2,3,4) - Try this to make it more readable and to make it less messy.
  4. 01:25:958 (1) - Like the other diffs, you should end with "Finish"
Insane
  1. I would definitely increase AR +1.
  2. 00:09:958 (1,2,3,4) - Stack (3) with the beginning of (1) it plays much nicer.
  3. 00:43:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stack the end of the sliders correctly , try disabling Grid Snap.
  4. 00:47:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
  5. This diff is a bit linear, try curve shapes for your next beatmaps~
Other than the things I pointed out, I don't find major problem with the mapset
kanpakyin
Sorry for long Delay D:
It's time to mod.

[General]
2s lead in is much better?
You should consider to use sliderslide.wav

[Easy]
Slider Tick Rate:1
00:06:624(2.3.4)-Remove Finish please!It sounds bad.
00:39:513(x)-add a note here to continue your pettern.
00:54:180(1-4.1)-inconsistent spacing!
00:57:735(1)-add a finish here.
01:15:513(1.2)-Swap new combo.
Don't like your slider style too much.But it is OK.

[Normal]
00:00:847(1)-This slider is quite ugly = =Well feel free to ignore this
00:04:402(1)-^
00:07:735(5)-Remove clap.
00:45:735(4.5)-Well make some newbie confuse.Better to make another position.But in general,that's ok!
00:54:180(x)-Remove this spinner and map something here.It is quite weird if you add a spinner here!
00:59:958(x)-add a note here
01:00:846(x)-^same
01:03:291(4)-New combo here

[Hard]
00:07:958(1-7)-Remove all finish!and choose the accent to add finish or clap!
00:16:624(2)-Remove clap.
00:29:735(1)-strongly suggest to draw another slider.It really ugly imo.
00:57:735(1)-stack on the end of (4)-
01:22:846(x)-this spinner is too far with (1)-(I mean the distance.)


[Weezy's Hard]
Missing hitsound..Please add it!
00:04:402(1-4)-inconsistent spacing.
00:07:958(1.2)-Make it more symmetrical!
00:10:624(3)-^
00:19:402(1-6)-inconsistent spacing.
00:35:069(x)-add a note here.
00:46:624(2)-align with (1)-
00:49:069(7.8.9.1-4)-inconsistent spacing!
00:56:846(3)-Remove(4)-than add 2 reverse
01:01:069(1-6)-inconsistent spacing.
01:03:291(2-7)-^same
01:08:180(1-6)-^
01:10:402(2-7)-^
01:17:069(1-6)-^
01:19:069(1.2)-Make it more symmetrical.
*any inconsistant spacing problem should close the grid to fix!
-Lennox-
Wee~ Na dan los gehts

[Easy]

Bissl langweilig zu spielen wenn slider der gleichen art 4 mal vorkommen.. :/
Ich würde dir vorschlagen das du NUR im refrain "Normal" hitsound nutzt und im anderen teil "Soft" hitsounds..

[Normal]

Das selber muster immer und immer wieder D:
00:53:958 (1) - Der spinner startet zu früh.. ich würde vorschlagen du entfernst den spinner und mapst den teil.
01:26:180 (1) - ^ hier einfach den spinner auf den nächsten weißen tick anfangen lassen.

[Hard]

Bahh so viele claps... versuch die ein wenig ein zu schränken.. manche passen nicht zur musik..

00:31:291 (3) - einen grid nach oben und einen nach links für symmetri..
00:45:513 (4) - einen grid nach links
01:22:846 (1) - So kurz ._. mach den bitte weg und setz ein slider/circle keien ahnung hauptsache der spinner kommt weg D:

[Weezy's Hard]

Wat.. no hitsounds?

ppy wrote:

You must use hit sounds. Without these things get way too monotonous as you are throwing away one of the main elements of variation present in mapping.
Map looks good imo.

[insane]

O_o Total übermapped... entferne hier ein paar circle und versuch entweder mit den lyrics oder mit den rythmus zu mappen x.x



Die maps an sich sind schön, benötigen aber noch viel arbeit damit sie perfekt wird.

Here get my star~
Topic Starter
Yomeiro

lennox989 wrote:

Wee~ Na dan los gehts

[Easy]

Bissl langweilig zu spielen wenn slider der gleichen art 4 mal vorkommen.. :/
Ich würde dir vorschlagen das du NUR im refrain "Normal" hitsound nutzt und im anderen teil "Soft" hitsounds..

[Normal]

Das selber muster immer und immer wieder D:
00:53:958 (1) - Der spinner startet zu früh.. ich würde vorschlagen du entfernst den spinner und mapst den teil.
01:26:180 (1) - ^ hier einfach den spinner auf den nächsten weißen tick anfangen lassen.

[Hard]

Bahh so viele claps... versuch die ein wenig ein zu schränken.. manche passen nicht zur musik..

00:31:291 (3) - einen grid nach oben und einen nach links für symmetri..
00:45:513 (4) - einen grid nach links
01:22:846 (1) - So kurz ._. mach den bitte weg und setz ein slider/circle keien ahnung hauptsache der spinner kommt weg D:

[Weezy's Hard]

Wat.. no hitsounds?

ppy wrote:

You must use hit sounds. Without these things get way too monotonous as you are throwing away one of the main elements of variation present in mapping.
Map looks good imo.

[insane]

O_o Total übermapped... entferne hier ein paar circle und versuch entweder mit den lyrics oder mit den rythmus zu mappen x.x



Die maps an sich sind schön, benötigen aber noch viel arbeit damit sie perfekt wird.

Here get my star~

Danke dir für den mod :3
Werd mal schaun was ich da so verändern kann am besten aber bin gerade bissl erschöpft so.....
Dauert wohl nochn weilchen bis ich da was ändern werd heute xx
Hitoshirenu Shourai
I did a quick check, everything looks good to me. Love the circle/slider formations on Insane btw, very nice. ^^

You can has bubbled.
Aqua
Mehr als nen Star kann ich dir nicht geben. Sieht alles super aus.
EnPassant
Hey :D

I'll mod all difficulties xD

Easy:
00:00:847 (1) - Any slider like this one (Especially in this section and in Kiai) when stretching a full measure of time should start AND end with a finish hitsound. It sounds better and it's a good way to add more effect to the note. If you disagree with applying it to the entire song, you MUST place it here at least, the song starts on a crash.
00:43:513 (1) - Finish hitsound on start
00:47:069 (1) - ^
00:50:624 (1) - ^
00:54:180 (1) - ^
Being redundant. When you hit the Kiai, Every slider that runs one full measure (All but one or two) should have finish hitsounds on both the beginning and end of these notes, they land on important beats to be upheld and it makes the map consistent

Normal:
00:00:847 (1) - Must start with finish as in Easy
00:11:513 (1) - Here are when your problems begin. Spacing inconsistencies are filled in this map, particularly on 1/2 snapped beats.

I'll list some examples, and possible ways to fix.

00:12:402 (2) - Too far from 00:11:513 (1). You should slide this down 4 grids and to the right 4 grids. Re-align 00:12:846 (3) - directly downward to maintain the curve. Do similar for 00:14:180 (2), it will make more sense to players on approach for the following hit
00:23:069 (3) - Same issue
00:23:069 (3) - Interesting issue. The note has nowhere to go, really. I'd advise you stack on the endpoint of the previous slider 00:23:735 (5). This happens often as well, so you might wish to apply to all such occurrences
01:03:290 (1) - Rotate endpoint 45-50 degrees clockwise (You can do this by entering options and selecting "Rotate By.." and type in 50 degrees and selecting clockwise. It will do it for you) then fix spacing to previous slider
01:11:958 (1,2,3) - Clearly intentional jumps like these are fine, actually I encourage them since they land on 1/1 (white ticks.) But I advise you to exclude any other jumps in a normal diff. Actually, this point up until the end needs no spacing fixes, the jumps fit how you have them

If you need any help or want my personal input on any of these fixes, let me know, and I'll get you those.

Still, very nice map on Normal

Hard: (Apply Finish to first note!)
YARR! I FOUND A NAZII!
00:28:180 (3) - One grid up. It would probably be easier to select this entire section past this note (up to the spinner) and shift it up one grid instead of doing it part by part, for the rest in that section seems fine
00:04:624 (6,7) - one grid right
00:05:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - one grid up

Otherwise, great map. Can't find anything but Nazi spacings

Insane: (Apply Finish to first note!)
I found way too many Nazi spacing errors. Some of them aren't really Nazi spots either, such as
00:09:958 (1) - Place this directly under the last beat, it lines up much more cleanly with the following skips.
So look back over the map once more, looking for simple but annoying spacings that can be placed as such.
00:13:291 (1) - You can't start this section as 2 -part combos and jump to 11's. Drop at least one combo [00:14:624 (1) - ?] and possibly shorten the following 11-hit combos, especially since your combo average is 6 thus far.
00:55:958 (1) - Combo spam again. Remove the first and 3rd combo change.
01:03:069 (7) - New combo
01:04:846 (1) - Remove new combo
01:11:958 (1) - ^
01:17:069 (7) - New combo
01:18:624 (1) - Meh. I don't like it but the following combo will be too fatty if you remove this combo section or the next one. So it's fine here
01:21:069 (1) - Place this directly under the last beat, it lines up much more cleanly with the following skips.

Great maps. Just fix spacing in normal and you're good.
Star~

Edit: I feel this map needs more care in Normal and Insane (strictly placement on insane), specifically. Some of these errors are already annoying for me, a noob playing your normal will be lost

Nice job on fixes
EnPassant
Repost- It's all but perfect now. Good job on fixing the normal spacings

Insane:
[quote=EnPassant]00:09:958 (1) - Place this directly under the last beat, it lines up much more cleanly with the following skips.[/quote]

This was my fault. I meant you should stack it with the previous note xD. I'm sorry for being unclear

Fix that And I'll kdst it :D

Example (Ignore my skin)

Topic Starter
Yomeiro

EnPassant wrote:

Repost- It's all but perfect now. Good job on fixing the normal spacings

Insane:
[quote=EnPassant]00:09:958 (1) - Place this directly under the last beat, it lines up much more cleanly with the following skips.
This was my fault. I meant you should stack it with the previous note xD. I'm sorry for being unclear

Fix that And I'll kdst it :D

Example (Ignore my skin)[/quote]

Done o.o'
EnPassant
No complaints. I pass it~
IceBeam
Um,I guess I'm a bit late?

I know there's only 1 pixel difference,but could you resize your BG to 1024x768?

[Easy]
Nice,but why didn't you use claps at the chorus as well?

[Normal]
00:15:069 (1) - Finish.
00:22:180 (1) - ^
00:36:402 (1) - ^
00:43:513 (1) - ^
00:57:735 (1) - ^
01:04:846 (1) - ^
01:11:958 (1) - ^
01:19:069 (1) - ^

Use these finishes for other diffs as well if you want.

01:19:069 (1) - Use these notes instead: 01:19:069, 01:19:735, 01:20:402?

[Hard]
Add finishes to the chorus.

[Insane]
00:31:069 (1) - The rest of slider track is hidden.
00:38:180 (5,6) - So trap :D
01:13:291 (8) - It's placed kinda weird,find better place for it?

Some finishes are missing as well.

Awesome difficulty and awesome song.

Star.
Topic Starter
Yomeiro

IceBeam wrote:

Um,I guess I'm a bit late?

I know there's only 1 pixel difference,but could you resize your BG to 1024x768? --> Ok.

[Easy]
Nice,but why didn't you use claps at the chorus as well? --> Dunno o.o, felt like it probably... xD

[Normal]
00:15:069 (1) - Finish.
00:22:180 (1) - ^
00:36:402 (1) - ^
00:43:513 (1) - ^
00:57:735 (1) - ^
01:04:846 (1) - ^
01:11:958 (1) - ^
01:19:069 (1) - ^ --> Done.

Use these finishes for other diffs as well if you want.

01:19:069 (1) - Use these notes instead: 01:19:069, 01:19:735, 01:20:402? --> makes sense...^^ Done :3

[Hard]
Add finishes to the chorus. --> Ok.^^

[Insane]
00:31:069 (1) - The rest of slider track is hidden. --> Fixed.
00:38:180 (5,6) - So trap :D
01:13:291 (8) - It's placed kinda weird,find better place for it? --> Dunno if it's fixed now but I hope so o.o

Some finishes are missing as well.

Awesome difficulty and awesome song.

Star.
Thanks for the star :3
Lanttu
[Insane]
00:56:402 (4) - Maybe new combo?
00:57:291 (4) - ^

[Normal]
01:19:069 (1) - Scale by 0.825

Everything else looks good, starred~ Nice song this is<3

No kudosu please<3
wcx19911123
HI
Here is my mod4mod of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/28561

[Easy]
00:07:958 (1) - I think the red square should be on the slider tick
00:16:847 (2,3,4) - ^
00:31:069 (2,3,4) - ^
00:57:735 (1) - ^
01:01:291 (1) - ^
01:11:958 (1) - ^
01:15:513 (1) - ^
00:43:513 (1,2) - 1 gird right
00:43:513 (1,2) - ^
00:50:624 (1,2) - 1 gird left

[Normal]
01:24:402 (1,2,3) - try to make the 3 in the middle of the screen?

[Hard]
You can use a custom hitsound to make the claps sound better
00:45:513 (4) - 1 gird left

[Insane]
00:16:847 (1) - 1 gird up
00:50:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - spacing

That's all
Good song 0.0
Topic Starter
Yomeiro

wcx19911123 wrote:

HI
Here is my mod4mod of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/28561

[Easy]
00:07:958 (1) - I think the red square should be on the slider tick --> Do you normally pay attention to this when making sliders? I mean, Sliders can have different shapes, be it curved or linear, I don't think that the Sliderpoints have to be directly at the Sliderticks~
You have a valid point (maybe) but I leave it like that~

00:16:847 (2,3,4) - ^ --> ^
00:31:069 (2,3,4) - ^ --> ^
00:57:735 (1) - ^ --> ^
01:01:291 (1) - ^ --> ^
01:11:958 (1) - ^ --> ^
01:15:513 (1) - ^ --> ^
00:43:513 (1,2) - 1 gird right
00:43:513 (1,2) - ^
00:50:624 (1,2) - 1 gird left

[Normal]
01:24:402 (1,2,3) - try to make the 3 in the middle of the screen? --> Guess I can live with that~

[Hard]
You can use a custom hitsound to make the claps sound better --> I would like to use custom hitsounds, but I don't really know where to get these from :(
00:45:513 (4) - 1 gird left

[Insane]
00:16:847 (1) - 1 gird up
00:50:624 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - spacing --> Fixed.

Nazi's done too~

That's all
Good song 0.0
Thanks for the star :3
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