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it was hard to detect cuz when u MA it u have to set it to 1/16th cuz theres a ton of 1/16th intended snaps lol
idk honestly with clearer hitsounds it was extremely easy to hear when watching the map tbhNaotoshi wrote:
it was hard to detect cuz when u MA it u have to set it to 1/16th cuz theres a ton of 1/16th intended snaps lol
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Theaceae wrote:
Actually wait 03:16:131 (1) is snapped to 1/16 in EX EX fucj sorry for this stupid mistake, fixed.
EDIT: I feel like this issue was hard to detect mainly because of the hitsound volume. I understand that you probably did quieter hitsounds because of the buzz sliders, so maybe have 2 samples or something? I only realized the slider i linked after watching it in ctb with different hitsounds and hearing a delay
this time i looked at the map!
again
change kawa's diff to Kawa's EX ..
Naotoshi wrote:
change kawa's diff to Kawa's EX ..
I'd talk about this with her. She said my diff is too easy to get this name. Actually only me did typical, simple and easy things bcuz of her request so I can accept "Extra" diffname lol
03:27:487 (1) - why is this like 0% volume on moechos xd
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fieryrage wrote:
03:27:487 (1) - why is this like 0% volume on moechos xd check 00:12:233 (1) - in case of you missed it and come up with that in a sudden at later part. and that's because she do not want to emphasis those addtional taiko beats stronger than common drum track, so that volume setting shall be in that low level.
kyk ex
02:28:504 (3,4,1) - and 03:15:453 (2,3,4) - broken stacks
nokd
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2zz wrote:
kyk ex
02:28:504 (3,4,1) - and 03:15:453 (2,3,4) - broken stacks this is an editor bug which happened when you save the progress of your map and then some objects will be moved a bit. that will countinue happening however you fix things like this, so just ignore those nazi issues, it won't effect the map itself really much.
nokd
UndeadCapulet wrote:
this time i looked at the map!
congratz
sooner or later people will start buffering sliders not because of whiny singletappers but because of hardware limitations O.O
> goes against the song in every conceivable way if u dont use unbuffered sliders
> all if not most players have to hit early to hit the notes because of errors that are not in their control
What
> goes against the song in every conceivable way if u dont use unbuffered sliders
> all if not most players have to hit early to hit the notes because of errors that are not in their control
What
can u guys start buffering sliders or just dont map at all. dead game. peaked in 2014, cya. Perma ridin the wave. Imagine spending all ur life on osu when u could be out there grinding hard $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
$$$$$$$$ gucci gang shit niBBa
$$$$$$$$ gucci gang shit niBBaUndeadCapulet wrote:
buffering literally goes against the song in every conceivable way, please stop telling people to do it
hello
this pic was me getting a full 300 on a stationary 1/16 repeat
this pic was me sliderbreaking on a stationary 1/16 repeat
goodbye
the repeats do make things really unforgivable and would go well received if they were removed. The only con I can see by buffering the sliders is that it makes things less challenging for those that want one; even then I don't think it would be missed too much
there are a million cons. the whole point of buzzsliders is that theres a continuous stream of sounds all the way to the next object. when you buffer sliders you remove a play experience that shows off that constant stream, from both the rhythm (players dont have to hold the key the whole time) and the cursor motion (players get to leave the slider way before all the beats are finished and dont get to feel any connection to the next object). and it sounds stupid in hitsounding. buffering automatically makes your map worse as far as im concerned
i dont care if you buffer buzzsliders in your own maps, just please stop running around telling other people that theyre supposed to do it, bc it does indeed go directly against the music in every conceivable way
i dont care if you buffer buzzsliders in your own maps, just please stop running around telling other people that theyre supposed to do it, bc it does indeed go directly against the music in every conceivable way
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is it really worth it if most people are just going to straight up break or press early to avoid breaking, not exactly following the song anyways? it seems to me that you're exaggerating how much a player would notice a brief gap as opposed to dealing with an unbuffered slider
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it seems to me that you're exaggerating how hard it is to play an unbuffered slider
the brief gap is definitely noticeable, there's no reason to force mappers to conform to pure playability mentalities, especially when they hinder song expression so much
the brief gap is definitely noticeable, there's no reason to force mappers to conform to pure playability mentalities, especially when they hinder song expression so much
can u regard the fact that u need to hit in the 100 range for some sliders to even get a 300 on it or that there is such a thing such as hardware limitations??????????????? WHAT
this is a rhythm game im supposed to be playing to the rhythm Loooooooooool
>punished for playing on time
What............................................
the reason mappers buffer their sliders is so that their maps are properly playable to the rhythm but Ok
i would kinda need proof that it expresses the song SO MUCH that its worth to make a rhythm game not play like a rhythm game because im sure almost nobody sees it that way but then again its a dead game anyway no1 cares bout osu anymore it peaked in 2014 anyway Lol
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this is a rhythm game im supposed to be playing to the rhythm Loooooooooool
>punished for playing on time
What............................................
the reason mappers buffer their sliders is so that their maps are properly playable to the rhythm but Ok
i would kinda need proof that it expresses the song SO MUCH that its worth to make a rhythm game not play like a rhythm game because im sure almost nobody sees it that way but then again its a dead game anyway no1 cares bout osu anymore it peaked in 2014 anyway Lol
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what
it doesnt matter if a buzz is buffered or not, the chance of getting a sliderbreak from a reverse arrow cutting out the hitwindow is the same
buffering only affects when you can leave a buzzslider, if anything it makes it harder for people to click early. the only way to keep that hitwindow-clipping from happening is by not using buzzsliders at all
people dont buffer buzzsliders to make clicking the next object easier, they buffer them so they dont have to hold their key down the entire time until the next object
it doesnt matter if a buzz is buffered or not, the chance of getting a sliderbreak from a reverse arrow cutting out the hitwindow is the same
buffering only affects when you can leave a buzzslider, if anything it makes it harder for people to click early. the only way to keep that hitwindow-clipping from happening is by not using buzzsliders at all
people dont buffer buzzsliders to make clicking the next object easier, they buffer them so they dont have to hold their key down the entire time until the next object
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what
it doesnt matter if a buzz is buffered or not, the chance of getting a sliderbreak from a reverse arrow cutting out the hitwindow is the same
buffering only affects when you can leave a buzzslider, if anything it makes it harder for people to click early. the only way to keep that hitwindow-clipping from happening is by not using buzzsliders at all
people dont buffer buzzsliders to make clicking the next object easier, they buffer them so they dont have to hold their key down the entire time until the next object
broken game please fix
ive got some issues in this normal
nothing objectively unrankable but i really find a lot of this diff questionable at best..
00:21:216 (1) - the gap here seems too short considering this map usually uses 4/1 rhythms... start spinner a measure earlier and have it go for 2 measures to fix
the use of .9 spacing is jarring and gives a very weird feeling, plus i don't really see the point of it
00:45:622 (1,2) - these two sliders seem to have no correlation with how or why anchor points are used, leaving this feeling of random movement which doesn't really play well in this diff. also, the 1/1 gap is incredibly weird considering the majority of the map uses 4/1 sliders.. i'd increase it to a 2/1 gap.
00:52:402 (2,3) - not gonna lie this overlap is ugly :/
00:53:758 (3,1) - another 1/1 gap but this one fits a bit better so its ok i guess
00:56:470 (1,1,1) - i don't really understand your logic with these slider angles (this applies to the whole section). maybe i'm missing something but they seem kinda randomized and nonsensical
01:18:165 (1) - i have no idea why this section is so lightly mapped.. its still kiai but it gets much easier???
01:49:351 (1,2) - i'd suggest just removing this.. this might throw players off too easily and doesn't feel right with the slider ending on the downbeat.
01:58:843 (1) - push this back 2 beats to allow for a wider gap between the spinner and slider and also to represent the beginning of the static (or at least what i hear as the beginning?)
02:23:249 (1,2) - same as 00:45:622 (1,2) -
02:31:385 (3) - this slider is confusing because the most "major" noise in it is the downbeat but the anchor is at the beat before which i feel really doesnt represent that large noise on the downbeat at all
02:55:792 (1) - same as before, i'd really up this rhythm for at least some form of consistency..
nothing objectively unrankable but i really find a lot of this diff questionable at best..
00:21:216 (1) - the gap here seems too short considering this map usually uses 4/1 rhythms... start spinner a measure earlier and have it go for 2 measures to fix
the use of .9 spacing is jarring and gives a very weird feeling, plus i don't really see the point of it
00:45:622 (1,2) - these two sliders seem to have no correlation with how or why anchor points are used, leaving this feeling of random movement which doesn't really play well in this diff. also, the 1/1 gap is incredibly weird considering the majority of the map uses 4/1 sliders.. i'd increase it to a 2/1 gap.
00:52:402 (2,3) - not gonna lie this overlap is ugly :/
00:53:758 (3,1) - another 1/1 gap but this one fits a bit better so its ok i guess
00:56:470 (1,1,1) - i don't really understand your logic with these slider angles (this applies to the whole section). maybe i'm missing something but they seem kinda randomized and nonsensical
01:18:165 (1) - i have no idea why this section is so lightly mapped.. its still kiai but it gets much easier???
01:49:351 (1,2) - i'd suggest just removing this.. this might throw players off too easily and doesn't feel right with the slider ending on the downbeat.
01:58:843 (1) - push this back 2 beats to allow for a wider gap between the spinner and slider and also to represent the beginning of the static (or at least what i hear as the beginning?)
02:23:249 (1,2) - same as 00:45:622 (1,2) -
02:31:385 (3) - this slider is confusing because the most "major" noise in it is the downbeat but the anchor is at the beat before which i feel really doesnt represent that large noise on the downbeat at all
02:55:792 (1) - same as before, i'd really up this rhythm for at least some form of consistency..
Regarding the buffered slider things, it would be more reasonable if all sliders consistently had their tails closest to the next object. It would make it more playable and still doesn't use buffering.
Here are some examples of non-buffered slider distance snaps:
00:57:317 (2,3) - 01:08:165 (2) - 2x
01:00:029 (2) - 01:02:741 (2) - 1x
01:00:538 (1) - 01:03:631 (2) - 0x
Changing sliders with 1/8 gaps that have 2x distance (closer to the head) to 1x distance (closer to tail) would be more fair to the player since they'd be able to keep their cursor on the previous slider circle for slightly longer.
Here are some examples of non-buffered slider distance snaps:
00:57:317 (2,3) - 01:08:165 (2) - 2x
01:00:029 (2) - 01:02:741 (2) - 1x
01:00:538 (1) - 01:03:631 (2) - 0x
Changing sliders with 1/8 gaps that have 2x distance (closer to the head) to 1x distance (closer to tail) would be more fair to the player since they'd be able to keep their cursor on the previous slider circle for slightly longer.
its not a matter of human skill its a matter of hardware being shite
forgot to say but nathan's problem is completely different from buffered sliders, but the main reason such a thing is a problem is the same reason as unbuffered sliders are a problem, and they are closely related
hardware input, output, and transfer has LATENCY, buffering sliders and not using sliders with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 ms repeats is supposed to combat this latency error
the problem isnt that humans are not good enough to play them
the problem is that hardware is not good enough to handle it
and BECAUSE the hardware is not good enough to handle such technicalities, the game ends up not becoming a rhythm game because u arent even playing to the rhythm at that point anymore
theres a reaason UR sub 50 is inhuman/luck and its mostly because of hardware
in this regard, the chance of sdliderbreak due to a reverse arrow is NOT the same because hardware issues cause players to stay on the note longer than intended and hit the next note late, OR hit the 1/16 not early BECAUSE the latency between hardware does not allow players to hit notes timely
i mean we cOULD just disregard all bugs and just start mapping auto-fail maps while we'r at it Tho,m or maybe ur from Wakanda and got that usb 6.3 0 ms LATENCY
forgot to say but nathan's problem is completely different from buffered sliders, but the main reason such a thing is a problem is the same reason as unbuffered sliders are a problem, and they are closely related
hardware input, output, and transfer has LATENCY, buffering sliders and not using sliders with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 ms repeats is supposed to combat this latency error
the problem isnt that humans are not good enough to play them
the problem is that hardware is not good enough to handle it
and BECAUSE the hardware is not good enough to handle such technicalities, the game ends up not becoming a rhythm game because u arent even playing to the rhythm at that point anymore
theres a reaason UR sub 50 is inhuman/luck and its mostly because of hardware
in this regard, the chance of sdliderbreak due to a reverse arrow is NOT the same because hardware issues cause players to stay on the note longer than intended and hit the next note late, OR hit the 1/16 not early BECAUSE the latency between hardware does not allow players to hit notes timely
i mean we cOULD just disregard all bugs and just start mapping auto-fail maps while we'r at it Tho,m or maybe ur from Wakanda and got that usb 6.3 0 ms LATENCY
Any evidence to back this up?Mishima Yurara wrote:
its not a matter of human skill its a matter of hardware being shite
forgot to say but nathan's problem is completely different from buffered sliders, but the main reason such a thing is a problem is the same reason as unbuffered sliders are a problem, and they are closely related
hardware input, output, and transfer has LATENCY, buffering sliders and not using sliders with 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 ms repeats is supposed to combat this latency error
the problem isnt that humans are not good enough to play them
the problem is that hardware is not good enough to handle it
and BECAUSE the hardware is not good enough to handle such technicalities, the game ends up not becoming a rhythm game because u arent even playing to the rhythm at that point anymore
theres a reaason UR sub 50 is inhuman/luck and its mostly because of hardware
in this regard, the chance of sdliderbreak due to a reverse arrow is NOT the same because hardware issues cause players to stay on the note longer than intended and hit the next note late, OR hit the 1/16 not early BECAUSE the latency between hardware does not allow players to hit notes timely
i mean we cOULD just disregard all bugs and just start mapping auto-fail maps while we'r at it Tho,m or maybe ur from Wakanda and got that usb 6.3 0 ms LATENCY
common sense suggests that hardware has latency, combine the latencies with your mouse/tablet with ur keyboard, audio driver, audio peripheral, video driver, and monitor, and u got a pretty significant size
idr most of the threads since they were since like 2014 and osu!'s search is acutally garboo, but here are specifics
t/208094
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... d_and_how/
t/153515
https://superuser.com/questions/317217/ ... b2-0-drive
https://superuser.com/questions/16893/d ... ond-faster
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... ency-audio
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/in ... rison_1436
how would 0 latency hardware even work,,,,, what the hell bros?
idr most of the threads since they were since like 2014 and osu!'s search is acutally garboo, but here are specifics
t/208094
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... d_and_how/
t/153515
https://superuser.com/questions/317217/ ... b2-0-drive
https://superuser.com/questions/16893/d ... ond-faster
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... ency-audio
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/in ... rison_1436
how would 0 latency hardware even work,,,,, what the hell bros?
Yes, but can you point to specifics in the map and stuff? And can you say that whatever latenc etc.... the map demands is too hard / unreasonable for people to hit? I'm not saying ur stuff is wrong at all, but ur just listing a bunch of resources for why latency exist but not for why it negatively affects this map in particular.Mishima Yurara wrote:
common sense suggests that hardware has latency, combine the latencies with your mouse/tablet with ur keyboard, audio driver, audio peripheral, video driver, and monitor, and u got a pretty significant size
idr most of the threads since they were since like 2014 and osu!'s search is acutally garboo, but here are specifics
t/208094
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... d_and_how/
t/153515
https://superuser.com/questions/317217/ ... b2-0-drive
https://superuser.com/questions/16893/d ... ond-faster
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... ency-audio
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/in ... rison_1436
how would 0 latency hardware even work,,,,, what the hell bros?
when osu meet maths
oh in the map lol i thought u meant proof that latency exists in hardware and i was bewildered
all the unbuffered 1/8 sliders
all the 1/16 sliders
1/16 hitwindow is 21 ms
1/8 hitwindow is 42 ms
the 2nd question makes it sound like u dont know what latency Actually is tho; Latency is not a skill,, it doesnt make sense to say that a map demands hard latency, latency is a time interval of delay that is prevalent in all hardware
the latency required for these sliders is very minimal and for most players it will quite literally be RNG because of such hardware limits, tho there are some players who use high quality graphics cards, keyboards, video cards, e.t.c but Yall ForReal? Spending 2k CAD on osu btw
also i think it speaks for itself why latency would negatively affect a rhythm game............... delayed responses due to hardware in a game that requires timing is Lol, this negatively affects all maps due to timing window constraints it causes
i dont acutally care about the map btw i just wanted to make sure that people realize that this is an actual thing and this is the original/main reason mappers buffered sliders my first post before this was even ranked wasnt Srs Lol but uc never responded to my How Tho so gl osu dead game anyway peaked in 2001
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all the unbuffered 1/8 sliders
all the 1/16 sliders
1/16 hitwindow is 21 ms
1/8 hitwindow is 42 ms
the 2nd question makes it sound like u dont know what latency Actually is tho; Latency is not a skill,, it doesnt make sense to say that a map demands hard latency, latency is a time interval of delay that is prevalent in all hardware
the latency required for these sliders is very minimal and for most players it will quite literally be RNG because of such hardware limits, tho there are some players who use high quality graphics cards, keyboards, video cards, e.t.c but Yall ForReal? Spending 2k CAD on osu btw
also i think it speaks for itself why latency would negatively affect a rhythm game............... delayed responses due to hardware in a game that requires timing is Lol, this negatively affects all maps due to timing window constraints it causes
i dont acutally care about the map btw i just wanted to make sure that people realize that this is an actual thing and this is the original/main reason mappers buffered sliders my first post before this was even ranked wasnt Srs Lol but uc never responded to my How Tho so gl osu dead game anyway peaked in 2001
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has VINXIS been secretly smart all this time!?!?!?!?
??? Universal offset exists. If you're consistently getting 15ms delay due to latency you account for that through adjusting offset. So I guess what you really mean is that 21ms is somehow unfair as a timing window? But at OD 10 you only have 1 +/- 19.5ms hitwindow anyways?Mishima Yurara wrote:
oh in the map lol i thought u meant proof that latency exists in hardware and i was bewildered
all the unbuffered 1/8 sliders
all the 1/16 sliders
1/16 hitwindow is 21 ms
1/8 hitwindow is 42 ms
the 2nd question makes it sound like u dont know what latency Actually is tho; Latency is not a skill,, it doesnt make sense to say that a map demands hard latency, latency is a time interval of delay that is prevalent in all hardware
the latency required for these sliders is very minimal and for most players it will quite literally be RNG because of such hardware limits, tho there are some players who use high quality graphics cards, keyboards, video cards, e.t.c but Yall ForReal? Spending 2k CAD on osu btw
also i think it speaks for itself why latency would negatively affect a rhythm game............... delayed responses due to hardware in a game that requires timing is Lol, this negatively affects all maps due to timing window constraints it causes
i dont acutally care about the map btw i just wanted to make sure that people realize that this is an actual thing and this is the original/main reason mappers buffered sliders my first post before this was even ranked wasnt Srs Lol but uc never responded to my How Tho so gl osu dead game anyway peaked in 2001
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So what is your solution? Removing even more repeatsor something? I'm actually still confused since this isn't the same issue Nathan brought up (which isn't going to be fixed by removing repeats anyways).
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Welp, it got to rank at least
i guess its already done anyway so
grats HW for rank
i guess its already done anyway so
grats HW for rank
gratz and enjoy slider breaks ctb
lol what