JENNY ROM - WWW.BLONDE GIRL (MOMO MIX) · forum

lcfc

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-06-17T06:12:08+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
The Advanced difficulty is too dense, and it's creating a gap with the normal. The chains of 1/2 objects are overall too long, since there are chains of 7 objects in less intense sections, while the Normal has barely any 1/2. Maybe not having an easy difficulty for the sake of it wasn't the best idea but as there isn't the normal can't have a lot of 1/2 but I need to have a lot of them so there is a stable bridge between the normal and the hard as the hard already introduces a bunch of 1/4 rhythms

[Advanced]
00:01:607 (5) - 00:04:430 (5) - I recommend removing this beat to break up this chain of 7 1/2 objects and to reduce the clickable 1/2 for a part that isn't that intense. was brought up in previous mods, I will change it now
01:06:548 (3) - Even if it's a strong vocal, it takes a way from the focus on the synth you created by only using 1/1 sliders here. I recommend removing this. it feels pretty weird without it being there when the vocal is more than noticeable, I used it consistently where there was a vocal and I believe it's better emphasizing both that and the instrument
01:13:783 (1,2) - Really unintuitive motion, considering players at this level don't abuse slider leniency. I know you're kind of running out of screen space here, but I still recommend trying something like this to make hitting the next note more intuitive. Changed in a another yet more intuitive way

thank you for modding!

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Title:WWW.Blonde Girl (MOMO Mix)
TitleUnicode:WWW.Blonde Girl (MOMO Mix)
Artist:Jenny Rom
ArtistUnicode:Jenny Rom
Creator:Kaifin
Version:LCFC's Advanced
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Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-06-17T07:05:33+00:00

TheKoala wrote:
Insane

00:39:019 (1) - maybe u should end this slider on the next blue tick so that its the same length as 00:38:313 (1,1) since theyre the same sounds. still plays out fine with the notes after. it works either way so up to u pretty much (if u do change it make sure to change it everywhere else too) it's intentional to allow for more breathing space between 00:39:019 (1,1) - since if i made it the same length the short time gap between notes would be uncomfortable to play
00:42:724 (1,2,1,2) - these ones get closer while 01:05:313 (1,2,1,2) get further apart so i recommend u make them get further apart as well oops
not much to say, its already rly polished and pretty much perfect

Halfslashed wrote:
[Insane]
00:00:724 (3,4) - Try a spacing increase here, since you do a spacing increase later on at 00:12:019 (3,4) - which is musically similar, the only difference being that this doesn't have a strong vocal on it. It's still a noticeably strong melody beat though, so a spacing increase would be nice. there technically is a spacing increase here, lol, but i made it more noticeable
00:02:136 (2,3) - I recommend lowering the spacing here, since you're creating a much bigger contrast compared to 00:00:724 (3,4) - due to the slider end stack before this. the bigger contrast is kind of the point since this is the end of this phrase in the music
00:04:607 (1,2,1,2) - I think lowering spacing between each pair would make 00:05:313 (1,2) - stand out more in terms of intensity, as well as the individual melody beats 00:04:607 (1) - 00:04:960 (1) - i think the current setup does a good job at emphasizing 00:04:607 (1) - 00:04:960 (1) - and 00:05:313 (1,2) - due to the noticeable increases in the spacing between the notes
00:37:254 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I think it'd be cool to rearrange this to have lower spacing for 00:37:254 (2,3,4) - so that 00:37:783 (5,6,7,1) - stands out more. Or even the other way around, like you did at 00:59:842 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1). we decided to rearrange 01:11:136 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - instead be more like 00:59:842 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - so that kiais remain somewhat consistent with each other (first kiai is consistent with itself and second kiai is consistent with itself)

thanks you two~ https://drmt.s-ul.eu/3VmHCd6u

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-06-17T18:07:38+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
The Advanced difficulty is too dense, and it's creating a gap with the normal. The chains of 1/2 objects are overall too long, since there are chains of 7 objects in less intense sections, while the Normal has barely any 1/2. pretty sure this spread is fine because the normal is functioning as an easy as well and the progression between normal advanced hard is clear

[Another]
~~AR8 when~~ i wish tbh
00:00:372 - Can't say I understand why you're using such a low SV in this section. If you were using low SV to contrast with high overall spacing to emphasize those downbeats, I think it would work out well, but since you're using such low spacing as well, the downbeats really don't get much emphasis. If anything, I think sliders like 00:00:372 (1) - 00:01:783 (1) - work better with high SV to contrast with your low spacing in this section. i get what you mean but if i used high velocity it would both feel unfitting and really awkward to play, there's no reason to NOT use the low sv especially when it is patterned into 00:05:313 (1,1,1) -
00:01:077 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:03:901 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not sure what this rhythm is representing. If it's supposed to represent hi-hats, then this should be continuous 1/4. Right now you're not really putting emphasis on the stronger drum/melody beats either, since you skip both 00:01:254 - 00:01:430. This would be a good place to introduce 1/4 spacing ideas you use later, so I suggest just mapping a 7 note burst here with appropriate spacing to melody beats. it's the piano
00:02:930 (5,6,7) - There's a synth beat on 7, but it's considerably weaker than 5 and 6, so I recommend using a 1/4 slider for 6 and 7. i agree but instead of using a 1/4 slider i'm just gonna simplify it at make this a double cause it feels like overmapping when using 1/4 slider
00:04:607 (1,2) - This jump isn't to anything strong, and I think it detracts from your emphasis on 00:04:960 (1). I recommend using the same spacing you used for 00:04:960 (1,2). the jump is there because of the musical pairing of 00:04:607 (1,2) - and 00:04:960 (1,2) - for which i wanted descending spacing, the 00:05:842 (1,1) - jump is still way harder so i dont think it takes away the emphasis from it
00:07:430 (1) - Based on your rhythm change at 00:06:019 (1), I think this fits better as a circle, since there's no strong held sound like there used to be. agreed, changed
00:08:136 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - As cool as this rhythm would be, it's really just a 7 note burst. the rhythm is literally the piano it is a rhythm in the song and the most distinct one at that
00:32:842 (1,2,3,4) - It's a cool idea to have increasing spacing here, but as a result, 00:33:548 (1,2,3,4) - ends up feeling unsatisfying to play, since the natural expectation is for a spacing increase between these that you can't do since you're using unbuffered 1/8 repeats. I suggest making these constant spacing with SV increases between the sliders, but I think you could probably think of something better. found a way to make the 1/8 repeats expand
00:35:401 (4,1) - Looks like the only time you have the player stop to hit 4, then continue in the same direction. This ends up different from 00:36:813 (4,1) - and each other time you do this. I suggest placing the circle like this, though you'd have to move some stuff around to keep your spacing. this is my way of introducing the spacing concepts and the rhythm used in the kiai time with the easiest possible flow, you could also argue that this flow is used throughout the segment such as with patterns like 00:42:019 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:56:048 (6,1) - 00:56:754 (2,1) - The introduction of 1/4 jumps this late in the map is already hard enough when combined with the perfect stacking, but the lack of 1/4 jumps to the downbeats just introduce way too many things at once. The spacing you have kinda fits the vocals, but you don't usually represent your vocal emphasis like this if 00:44:842 (1,2,3,4,1) - is any indication. I think this would work a lot better if you could use a spacing emphasis idea that the player would expect. i disagree, i think the whole map's structural placement trains the player to be able to fairly read this, they know the rhythm because it happens here first but easier 00:44:136 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (since i use sliders instead of circles) and the overlap is present in this pattern too, just to a lesser degree: there is no other place i can introduce the 1/4 jumps and they feel really really REALLy cool to play when you actually play the map and i dont think they are that big so keeping them really should not be an issue
00:56:401 (2,1) - It doesn't make sense for there to be a spacing decrease here when the vocals are supposed to be increasing in intensity and the drums are constant in intensity. Emphasis through angles also puts more emphasis on 2 than 1, since the player has to go out of their way to hit 2 before barely moving over to 1. Only real suggestion i could give would be to play this under 00:56:136 (1,2) so it at least plays like a square. it doesn't play like a square, it plays like a circle with 2 doublets of impact: 00:56:136 (1,1) - and 00:56:489 (1,1) - the way it is spaced connects the two pairs

Good luck!

thank you your mod was helpful!

Underforest

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Underforest 2017-06-17T20:48:11+00:00

TheKoala wrote:
Hard

don't like the fact that the 2nd chorus is just the 1st copy pasted and flipped, it makes it seem too repetitive and kinda lazy. itd be better if u mapped the 2nd chorus with different patterns but the same rhythm cuz u know variety is important and shit and makes the map more fun the map is already fun, plus copypaste doesn't affect in this case because rhythm and lyrics are almost the same
00:38:313 (1) - Cltr+G on this slider makes the pattern flow and look better imo replaced pattern instead
00:53:136 (2,3) - this flows kinda badly since the direction of 3 forces uncomfortable movement and nothing in the song really suggests a break in flow so maybe just have smthing like this I prefer to keep this atm
SPOILER
ye pretty good

Halfslashed wrote:
[Hard]
Get rid of this Alice BG. No thanks
I'm not a fan of the fact that you use spacing emphasis so frequently in the intro, but then infrequently use it in the kiai, where it would make more sense to use it near constant. Not much to suggest though, since that's a difficulty concept idea.
00:04:254 (5,1) - You're missing a spacing increase here, which you did for every other measure start. I'm trying to introduce a little distance relax here
00:07:783 (3,4) - Sorry to break your pretty pattern, but this spacing increase is way too big for players that are just getting used to non-constant spacing. I recommend reducing this quite a bit, maybe trying something similar to 00:01:430 (5,1) - It would break the symmetry
00:11:313 (2) - Since you're following the melody here, I think two circles would work a lot better. This pattern is too intense for a circle here
00:22:607 (5,1) - I think you meant to use a spacing increase here, if 00:16:960 (5,1) - is any indication. Not really

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Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-06-18T22:31:28+00:00

brown combo colour too dark so changed, all diffs updated!

Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-06-22T06:05:56+00:00

ok so basically the diff spread between doormats diff and underforests is way too big, the hard is like full DS and nothing more than triples and then doormat comes in with the quints on like random shit and giant jumps everywhere and 8 bursts and stuff like whoa there
so u need to add another easier insane i think unless u wanna rework the hard and the insane

[another]
00:02:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wot is this rhythm,, this isnt supported at all its like 2 triples...

00:05:842 (1,1) - i think this thing makes the last slider lose a ton of emphasis even though imo its the most important thing, not some random drum lol

00:10:960 (1,2,3) - ranking criteria wrote something something buffer 1/8th sliders for playability at this spacing you're almost certainly gonna drop the end especially cuz you have to hit 1/8th repeats early or you'll automatically break cuz of how sliders work

00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - wots with the random wide angle that u dont use anywhere else.. last time u just did a normal triangle thing why not here too

00:44:313 (2,4) - these things seem to screw up the structure of using sliders on that one sound o.o

00:48:548 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - dont like these quints, theres pretty clear vocal melody to follow here instead of random filler shit

00:52:783 (2,3) - these things suck. they completely and utterly kill all of the cursor movement and are super boring to play etc etc
like i get that its a pattern and stuff but idk

00:51:195 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:430 (1,2,3) - are the same sound but mapped totlly different too o.o

yea then the map repeats so everything i said applies again in one form or another.

[doomat]
00:04:607 (1,2,1,2) - theres like very clearly only 2 sounds in the melody why are there 4 clicks ._.

first time ive ever seen filler quints...

00:10:960 (1,2) - imo just following the melody is better, this is kind of removing all the emphasis that those notes have with putting 1/4 on it

00:16:607 (1,1) - these are the same sound, why not map them the same way?

00:22:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there's actually a drum rhythm here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406556 but you just stuck 1/4 all over it =(

@kaifin the slider end stacked jump smetimes play kinda bad imo, like 00:29:489 (2,3,4) - this one was kinda weird and sorta 00:23:842 (2,3,4) - as well

00:31:783 (1,1) - also this pixel overlap is kinda ugly

00:42:724 (1,2,1,2) - this looks like rhythm from a normal >.> the vocal is doing cool offbeat stuff with different emphasis and then theres just plodding 1/1 clicks ;w;

applies to all

the quints are also.. kinda dumb imo. but idk, it isnt horrific and besides theres nothing to really follow there other than 1/2 stuff but thats the entirety of the rest of the map anyway so its fine

[underforests hard]
ok the entire map up until the kiai is clockwise rotation thats kinda boring imo

00:05:489 (4) - would b nice to put a jump here

00:05:842 (5) - same, the 5 should be more emphasized than 1 for sure

00:38:313 (1) - jump here wuld be nice

yea just add a bit more jumps on those really strong notes cuz u already put them on relatively minor sounds

also im not really a fan of the copy pasted kiai. at all.

[lcfc's advanced]
nice bg =D

00:30:195 (4,5,6) - tf is this rhythm lol it doesnt seem to follow anything and then u have a strong sound with a really loud hitsound on a slider tail, then a vocal ignored with a 1/1 slider >.>

[yoshimaro's normal]
why am i not surprised that doormat's mentee used a syaro bg lol

00:05:842 (5,1) - i think u could just put a 1/2 slider on 5 and go back into the 1/1 rhythm that way, seems a bit better.

ok looks fine

yea u need anther diff lo

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-06-22T06:18:14+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[lcfc's advanced]
nice bg =D \o/

00:30:195 (4,5,6) - tf is this rhythm lol it doesnt seem to follow anything and then u have a strong sound with a really loud hitsound on a slider tail, then a vocal ignored with a 1/1 slider >.> actually I used to have a different rhythm but kaifin told me that a bn didn't like it and suggested this lol, weird cause I think the one I'll change it into now follows the vocal better

asdf

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Underforest 2017-06-22T06:47:02+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
ok so basically the diff spread between doormats diff and underforests is way too big, the hard is like full DS and nothing more than triples and then doormat comes in with the quints on like random shit and giant jumps everywhere and 8 bursts and stuff like whoa there
so u need to add another easier insane i think unless u wanna rework the hard and the insane

[underforests hard]
ok the entire map up until the kiai is clockwise rotation thats kinda boring imo did this technic because I feel rhythm goes in the same lyrics and in the same flow, so it has sense

00:05:489 (4) - would b nice to put a jump here fixed

00:05:842 (5) - same, the 5 should be more emphasized than 1 for sure fixed

00:38:313 (1) - jump here wuld be nice added x1.6 jumps to the 3 sliders

yea just add a bit more jumps on those really strong notes cuz u already put them on relatively minor sounds I added jumps x1.6 parts I think should be emphatized

also im not really a fan of the copy pasted kiai. at all.

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Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-06-22T07:24:14+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
ok so basically the diff spread between doormats diff and underforests is way too big, the hard is like full DS and nothing more than triples and then doormat comes in with the quints on like random shit and giant jumps everywhere and 8 bursts and stuff like whoa there
so u need to add another easier insane i think unless u wanna rework the hard and the insane

[another]
00:02:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wot is this rhythm,, this isnt supported at all its like 2 triples... its the piano

00:05:842 (1,1) - i think this thing makes the last slider lose a ton of emphasis even though imo its the most important thing, not some random drum lol i think it gives the whole whistle building thing more emphasis, you need to pull back so far then you snap back into the usual swing of the map and it accentuates how far displaced you've been by the pattern

00:10:960 (1,2,3) - ranking criteria wrote something something buffer 1/8th sliders for playability at this spacing you're almost certainly gonna drop the end especially cuz you have to hit 1/8th repeats early or you'll automatically break cuz of how sliders work just a guideline, this bpm is low enough that it is really not that uncomfortable, i'd agree if this was like 200 bpm or something but it's not

00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - wots with the random wide angle that u dont use anywhere else.. last time u just did a normal triangle thing why not here too i do different flow for each of these purposefully: 00:11:666 (1,2,3,1) - simple triangle flow which imo fits the vocal here best 00:14:489 (1,2,3) - line because it fits the sound 00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - the wide angle accentuates the repeat of the vocal 00:20:136 (1,2,3) - zig zag: it is consistently inconsistent because i'm trying to follow the vocal emphasis

00:44:313 (2,4) - these things seem to screw up the structure of using sliders on that one sound o.o think of it more as a build up than me deciding those sounds needed to have the sliders on them

00:48:548 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - dont like these quints, theres pretty clear vocal melody to follow here instead of random filler shit it'd be inconsistent for me not to map these because i map em at 00:45:724 - and also i think they're pretty emphasized, i'm following the piano literally the whole kiai aside from some random vocal emphasis

00:52:783 (2,3) - these things suck. they completely and utterly kill all of the cursor movement and are super boring to play etc etc
like i get that its a pattern and stuff but idk let me think about changing these

00:51:195 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:430 (1,2,3) - are the same sound but mapped totlly different too o.o not the same sound, the vocal is emphasized enough to make a difference to my rhythm here

yea then the map repeats so everything i said applies again in one form or another.

[doomat]

00:22:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there's actually a drum rhythm here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406556 but you just stuck 1/4 all over it =(

@kaifin the slider end stacked jump smetimes play kinda bad imo, like 00:29:489 (2,3,4) - this one was kinda weird and sorta 00:23:842 (2,3,4) - as well played fine to testplayers around that rank, do you have any input as to why they play bad?

00:31:783 (1,1) - also this pixel overlap is kinda ugly such is the life of the slow buildup

00:42:724 (1,2,1,2) - this looks like rhythm from a normal >.> the vocal is doing cool offbeat stuff with different emphasis and then theres just plodding 1/1 clicks ;w;

applies to all

the quints are also.. kinda dumb imo. but idk, it isnt horrific and besides theres nothing to really follow there other than 1/2 stuff but thats the entirety of the rest of the map anyway so its fine

yea u need anther diff lo on it, or maybe i will try a different better map instead of this one

thank you for the mod!

Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-06-22T15:18:02+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[doomat]
00:04:607 (1,2,1,2) - theres like very clearly only 2 sounds in the melody why are there 4 clicks ._. there are some rather distinct sounds on the (2)s. the (1,2,1,2) patterning here is to bring emphasis to how different the music here is in comparison to the previous patterning/rhythm

first time ive ever seen filler quints... you do realize that there's an underlying 1/4 rhythm at every spot where i mapped those quints, right? i'd hardly call it filler when it fits the music so obviously; i think you're actually the first person to not notice them...

00:10:960 (1,2) - imo just following the melody is better, this is kind of removing all the emphasis that those notes have with putting 1/4 on it i think it serves as a nice transition from the introduction of the song to the verse

00:16:607 (1,1) - these are the same sound, why not map them the same way? i think giving the same sound different patterning here helps to make the emphasis more distinct since they land on different words, but that's just my opinion

00:22:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there's actually a drum rhythm here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406556 but you just stuck 1/4 all over it =( i think the 1/4 sounds here are pretty obvious, and imo it serves as a nice transition between vocalists

@kaifin the slider end stacked jump smetimes play kinda bad imo, like 00:29:489 (2,3,4) - this one was kinda weird and sorta 00:23:842 (2,3,4) - as well

00:31:783 (1,1) - also this pixel overlap is kinda ugly sort of agree with this; i might be able to move it in a way that supports the buildup kaifin wanted here while making it "less ugly" but i want to run it through with him first

00:42:724 (1,2,1,2) - this looks like rhythm from a normal >.> the vocal is doing cool offbeat stuff with different emphasis and then theres just plodding 1/1 clicks ;w; i think it gives some nice drum emphasis, which gives a nice contrast to the dominant vocal mapping that's done in the kiai, but this has been mentioned before. maybe if more people bring it up we'll consider changing it

applies to all

the quints are also.. kinda dumb imo. but idk, it isnt horrific and besides theres nothing to really follow there other than 1/2 stuff but thats the entirety of the rest of the map anyway so its fine pay more attention to the music or get better headphones, cause the 1/4 beats where i mapped the quints are pretty obvious and occur throughout the entire song

wanna go over a few things with kaifin first; will post update code later

Nao Tomori

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Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-06-22T18:12:36+00:00

Kaifin wrote:
Naotoshi wrote:
ok so basically the diff spread between doormats diff and underforests is way too big, the hard is like full DS and nothing more than triples and then doormat comes in with the quints on like random shit and giant jumps everywhere and 8 bursts and stuff like whoa there
so u need to add another easier insane i think unless u wanna rework the hard and the insane

[another]
00:02:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wot is this rhythm,, this isnt supported at all its like 2 triples... its the piano

00:05:842 (1,1) - i think this thing makes the last slider lose a ton of emphasis even though imo its the most important thing, not some random drum lol i think it gives the whole whistle building thing more emphasis, you need to pull back so far then you snap back into the usual swing of the map and it accentuates how far displaced you've been by the pattern

00:10:960 (1,2,3) - ranking criteria wrote something something buffer 1/8th sliders for playability at this spacing you're almost certainly gonna drop the end especially cuz you have to hit 1/8th repeats early or you'll automatically break cuz of how sliders work just a guideline, this bpm is low enough that it is really not that uncomfortable, i'd agree if this was like 200 bpm or something but it's not with all due respect you're a rank 500 and totally not the target audience for this map, even if you look at the extra level you don't really see stuff like this because of the speed at which you have to snap these sliders. some of the later one especially get really really hard to do.

00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - wots with the random wide angle that u dont use anywhere else.. last time u just did a normal triangle thing why not here too i do different flow for each of these purposefully: 00:11:666 (1,2,3,1) - simple triangle flow which imo fits the vocal here best 00:14:489 (1,2,3) - line because it fits the sound 00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - the wide angle accentuates the repeat of the vocal 00:20:136 (1,2,3) - zig zag: it is consistently inconsistent because i'm trying to follow the vocal emphasis i don't quite follow. at 00:17:842 (1) - the vocal is still higher than previously. and all the other ones are still a sharp angle to the slider which is why it feels weird. to me

00:44:313 (2,4) - these things seem to screw up the structure of using sliders on that one sound o.o think of it more as a build up than me deciding those sounds needed to have the sliders on them

00:48:548 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - dont like these quints, theres pretty clear vocal melody to follow here instead of random filler shit it'd be inconsistent for me not to map these because i map em at 00:45:724 - and also i think they're pretty emphasized, i'm following the piano literally the whole kiai aside from some random vocal emphasis

00:52:783 (2,3) - these things suck. they completely and utterly kill all of the cursor movement and are super boring to play etc etc
like i get that its a pattern and stuff but idk let me think about changing these

00:51:195 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:430 (1,2,3) - are the same sound but mapped totlly different too o.o not the same sound, the vocal is emphasized enough to make a difference to my rhythm here

yea then the map repeats so everything i said applies again in one form or another.

[doomat]

00:22:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there's actually a drum rhythm here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406556 but you just stuck 1/4 all over it =(

@kaifin the slider end stacked jump smetimes play kinda bad imo, like 00:29:489 (2,3,4) - this one was kinda weird and sorta 00:23:842 (2,3,4) - as well played fine to testplayers around that rank, do you have any input as to why they play bad? dunno they just felt a bit unccmfortable to me. probably was because i was using the invisible combo color + my playstyle though.

00:31:783 (1,1) - also this pixel overlap is kinda ugly such is the life of the slow buildup

00:42:724 (1,2,1,2) - this looks like rhythm from a normal >.> the vocal is doing cool offbeat stuff with different emphasis and then theres just plodding 1/1 clicks ;w;

applies to all

the quints are also.. kinda dumb imo. but idk, it isnt horrific and besides theres nothing to really follow there other than 1/2 stuff but thats the entirety of the rest of the map anyway so its fine

y[a u need anther diff lo on it, or maybe i will try a different better map instead of this one i mean this map is fine so
thank you for the mod!

Doormat wrote:
Naotoshi wrote:
[doomat]
00:04:607 (1,2,1,2) - theres like very clearly only 2 sounds in the melody why are there 4 clicks ._. there are some rather distinct sounds on the (2)s. the (1,2,1,2) patterning here is to bring emphasis to how different the music here is in comparison to the previous patterning/rhythm

first time ive ever seen filler quints... you do realize that there's an underlying 1/4 rhythm at every spot where i mapped those quints, right? i'd hardly call it filler when it fits the music so obviously; i think you're actually the first person to not notice them... no i obviously notice the constant 1/4, but theres no melody on them so it's what i call filler lol

00:10:960 (1,2) - imo just following the melody is better, this is kind of removing all the emphasis that those notes have with putting 1/4 on it i think it serves as a nice transition from the introduction of the song to the verse

00:16:607 (1,1) - these are the same sound, why not map them the same way? i think giving the same sound different patterning here helps to make the emphasis more distinct since they land on different words, but that's just my opinion

00:22:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there's actually a drum rhythm here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8406556 but you just stuck 1/4 all over it =( i think the 1/4 sounds here are pretty obvious, and imo it serves as a nice transition between vocalists

@kaifin the slider end stacked jump smetimes play kinda bad imo, like 00:29:489 (2,3,4) - this one was kinda weird and sorta 00:23:842 (2,3,4) - as well

00:31:783 (1,1) - also this pixel overlap is kinda ugly sort of agree with this; i might be able to move it in a way that supports the buildup kaifin wanted here while making it "less ugly" but i want to run it through with him first

00:42:724 (1,2,1,2) - this looks like rhythm from a normal >.> the vocal is doing cool offbeat stuff with different emphasis and then theres just plodding 1/1 clicks ;w; i think it gives some nice drum emphasis, which gives a nice contrast to the dominant vocal mapping that's done in the kiai, but this has been mentioned before. maybe if more people bring it up we'll consider changing it

applies to all

the quints are also.. kinda dumb imo. but idk, it isnt horrific and besides theres nothing to really follow there other than 1/2 stuff but thats the entirety of the rest of the map anyway so its fine pay more attention to the music or get better headphones, cause the 1/4 beats where i mapped the quints are pretty obvious and occur throughout the entire song
wanna go over a few things with kaifin first; will post update code later

Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-06-22T20:16:09+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
first time ive ever seen filler quints... you do realize that there's an underlying 1/4 rhythm at every spot where i mapped those quints, right? i'd hardly call it filler when it fits the music so obviously; i think you're actually the first person to not notice them... no i obviously notice the constant 1/4, but theres no melody on them so it's what i call filler lol

this "filler" rhythm is too prominent to be ignored; i'd argue that if i simplified it into something like a slider, the unmapped 1/4s would stand out too much in comparison since there's nothing to mask it behind.

at the intro, the main melody ends at 00:02:313 - and 00:07:960 - respectively. if i simplified the following quintuplets into a 1/2 rhythm density, then the 1/4 snaps at 00:02:754 - 00:02:930 - etc. would stand out too much that not ignoring them would be a better solution.

at the chorus, the parts that are held vocals are mapped into quintuplets, like at 00:34:959 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:36:371 (5,6,7,8,9) - 00:40:607 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:42:019 (5,6,7,8,9) - etc. if i simplified these into sliders, then the same thing occurs: the 1/4 density stands out too much, so not ignoring it would be a better solution. the reason a quintuplet isn't used at 00:37:783 (5,6,7) - is because the vocals there aren't held, so the underlying 1/4 snaps don't stand out here as much in comparison to the vocals.

try listening to the map's rhythms if you remove the circles on the blue ticks at the intro, and if you remove the middle three circles of each quintuplet at the kiais and you'll see what i mean.

hopefully this clarified my intentions with the quintuplets

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-06-23T02:48:29+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
ok so basically the diff spread between doormats diff and underforests is way too big, the hard is like full DS and nothing more than triples and then doormat comes in with the quints on like random shit and giant jumps everywhere and 8 bursts and stuff like whoa there
so u need to add another easier insane i think unless u wanna rework the hard and the insane

[another]

00:10:960 (1,2,3) - ranking criteria wrote something something buffer 1/8th sliders for playability at this spacing you're almost certainly gonna drop the end especially cuz you have to hit 1/8th repeats early or you'll automatically break cuz of how sliders work just a guideline, this bpm is low enough that it is really not that uncomfortable, i'd agree if this was like 200 bpm or something but it's not with all due respect you're a rank 500 and totally not the target audience for this map, even if you look at the extra level you don't really see stuff like this because of the speed at which you have to snap these sliders. some of the later one especially get really really hard to do. what is the target audience for my map exactly?
i have an insane of the same star rating as this one for noobs, this is clearly a very understarred map and is much harder than the diff below it, i don't see how using technically difficult elements is a bad thing: i can check with QAT about them not being buffered for rankability sake but it will sound and play so stupid to have them be buffered

00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - wots with the random wide angle that u dont use anywhere else.. last time u just did a normal triangle thing why not here too i do different flow for each of these purposefully: 00:11:666 (1,2,3,1) - simple triangle flow which imo fits the vocal here best 00:14:489 (1,2,3) - line because it fits the sound 00:17:313 (1,2,3,1) - the wide angle accentuates the repeat of the vocal 00:20:136 (1,2,3) - zig zag: it is consistently inconsistent because i'm trying to follow the vocal emphasis i don't quite follow. at 00:17:842 (1) - the vocal is still higher than previously. and all the other ones are still a sharp angle to the slider which is why it feels weird. to me i will change this flow while keeping similar patterning, just with the last note being far rather than close

00:52:783 (2,3) - these things suck. they completely and utterly kill all of the cursor movement and are super boring to play etc etc
like i get that its a pattern and stuff but idk let me think about changing these

00:31:783 (1,1) - also this pixel overlap is kinda ugly such is the life of the slow buildup but i'll fix it

ok i find a low insane soontm

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2017-06-23T05:13:41+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[yoshimaro's normal]
why am i not surprised that doormat's mentee used a syaro bg lol because syaro is fucking bomB LOL

00:05:842 (5,1) - i think u could just put a 1/2 slider on 5 and go back into the 1/1 rhythm that way, seems a bit better. when i went over the diff with doormat, we both agreed that the syncopated heavy synth note on 00:05:842 - was powerful enough of a musical element to warrant it's own click function. also, it's easier to organize the space with these elements because now i can introduce 1/2 elements while keeping a 1/1 rhythm (which is good cus i build on them later n e way). if i had a 1/1 slider on 00:06:019 - (how it was before) the space gets too cluttered because to keep consistent with my own rhythm, it would have to be a repeat slider (as can be seen 00:00:372 (1) - , 00:03:195 (1) - )

ok looks fine

thanks nao c: no changes

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-06-24T01:53:53+00:00

sing's insane added

tags updated

dsco

287 posts

Joined April 2014

dsco 2017-06-24T02:08:05+00:00

This Mod Fucken Sucks

dorfin
00:14:136 (1) - nc seems to be for basically no reason (see others)
00:55:783 (1) - you dont nc in the middle of other 9 note streams

sing's
first half of this map feels very very rhythmically sparse especially in context of the spread.
00:17:842 (3,4) - this would look a bit nicer if 4's shape echoed 3 somehow, feels conflicting. subjective i guess
00:29:842 (3,1) - shouldn't be stacked if you look at last bits (00:24:195 (3,1) - )
00:28:254 (4) - i feel this would work better as 2 circles since the rest of the map after is fairly rhythmically dense
00:34:254 (1,2,3) - spacing looks confusing to read on such a low SR compared to parts like 00:47:754 (2,3) - and such, and as well with bits like 00:23:666 (2,3) - stacked. overall the kiai feels very volatile compared to the rest of the map, especially in cases of this slider pattern.
00:40:695 (2,1) - repeat very obscured, questionable i think?
01:18:371 (1,2) - wadda FAck
01:19:254 (4,5) - 1/4 slider i think better so this doesnt read like 1/2 (see 00:34:077 (2,1) - or maybe just change that one instead)

Einja

663 posts

Joined February 2015

Einja 2017-06-24T02:30:52+00:00

ok now modding sing's diff (request by kaifin again xddd)

don't forget about widescreen support

okay, the first 1/2 of the map before the man starts singing is really bland and lack of intensity of circles. i understand what you're following, but it doesn't match the song's intensity at all, so I'm just gonna leave you at that if you decide to change that or not. 2nd half of the song is good tho

00:12:195 (3) - there's a better way to make this slider imo, https://prntscr.com/fnif5a
00:15:019 (4) - ^

00:15:019 (4,5) - if you're gonna overlap these, please make it look neater than it currently is

00:17:842 (3) - would be nice if that red dot in that slider could be touching the slider tick http://prntscr.com/fnifod

00:25:254 (3) - the slider end should be clickable since a syllable of the vocals is hit there and your current pattern is following the lyrics aaa

01:06:548 (1,2) - rip ds spacing

01:18:371 (1,2) - woah that is some LARGE spacing

01:17:313 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - any reason why the dark combo colours aren't at the very end unlike the other diffs

okay im done (notify me if more diffs pop up)

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-06-24T03:35:29+00:00

@naotoshi sing will reply 2 mods and probably make the first half of the map a lot more dense tomorrow, i wont be on though so it wont be uploaded or anything sorry

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Sing 2017-06-24T21:43:03+00:00

dsco wrote:
sing's
first half of this map feels very very rhythmically sparse especially in context of the spread.
00:17:842 (3,4) - this would look a bit nicer if 4's shape echoed 3 somehow, feels conflicting. subjective i guess wdym echo? 00:18:548 (4) - is the same shape as 00:17:489 (2) - but just ctrl+h
00:29:842 (3,1) - shouldn't be stacked if you look at last bits (00:24:195 (3,1) - ) fixed
00:28:254 (4) - i feel this would work better as 2 circles since the rest of the map after is fairly rhythmically dense fixed
00:34:254 (1,2,3) - spacing looks confusing to read on such a low SR compared to parts like 00:47:754 (2,3) - and such, and as well with bits like 00:23:666 (2,3) - stacked. overall the kiai feels very volatile compared to the rest of the map, especially in cases of this slider pattern. yea bvut o well, i htink its fine at best bc of the newly introduced piano rhythm at the back just for the kiai; difficulty wise it is an insane so i think introducing such rhythms at the kiai is perfectly justifiable
00:40:695 (2,1) - repeat very obscured, questionable i think? yup lol, i tried to fix it while still retaining the pattern the best i could, should be ok now

Einja wrote:
ok now modding sing's diff (request by kaifin again xddd)
okay, the first 1/2 of the map before the man starts singing is really bland and lack of intensity of circles. i understand what you're following, but it doesn't match the song's intensity at all, so I'm just gonna leave you at that if you decide to change that or not. 2nd half of the song is good tho
00:12:195 (3) - there's a better way to make this slider imo, https://prntscr.com/fnif5a 2 point sliders r my chosen aesthetic
00:15:019 (4) - ^ ^
00:15:019 (4,5) - if you're gonna overlap these, please make it look neater than it currently is i agree with u but i rly cant do much cuz for this section i use the same 1/2 slider for each NC, just flipped; so changing the appearance of 00:15:724 (5) - wud make it inconsistent since it is the flip of 00:14:489 (2) -
00:17:842 (3) - would be nice if that red dot in that slider could be touching the slider tick http://prntscr.com/fnifod fixed
00:25:254 (3) - the slider end should be clickable since a syllable of the vocals is hit there and your current pattern is following the lyrics aaa yehaj
okay im done (notify me if more diffs pop up)

ok done thx https://puu.sh/wtlK0/f00c509e45.osu

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-06-26T00:59:08+00:00

Einja wrote:
01:06:548 (1,2) - rip ds spacing i wanted it to be noticeably smaller for the pattern

01:18:371 (1,2) - woah that is some LARGE spacing that is one INSANE jump if u know what im sayin

01:17:313 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - any reason why the dark combo colours aren't at the very end unlike the other diffs fixed!

okay im done (notify me if more diffs pop up)

dsco wrote:
This Mod Fucken Sucks

sing's
01:18:371 (1,2) - wadda FAck it is a Far boy but the map is literally 4 stars and this is the end so i think that the intense jump isn't a problem, its not like cross screen or anything and it ends in a dead stop
01:19:254 (4,5) - 1/4 slider i think better so this doesnt read like 1/2 (see 00:34:077 (2,1) - or maybe just change that one instead) agreed changed

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-06-29T04:05:07+00:00

ok recheck

[nothr]
u need 2 change the 1/8th repeatz imo they r totally unplayable for me and some others i got testplays from.. like u can play them but ur target audience cant so theyre just super big diff spikz

00:52:430 (1,2,3) - also these thing s r still terrible plz chnage it to like literally anything else

yeahaj
[dor,at]
00:32:489 (1) - y dont u make this same slider as 00:31:783 (1) - and ctrl g it so it looks nice

[sing]
all of ur sliders r so fking ugly can u like not do slayed sliders plz

00:05:842 (5,1) - 1 has way 2 much emphasis, its completely unimportant in the song compared to 00:05:842 (5) - lol

00:10:430 - i dont rly mind this minimalistic rhythm but this is pretty loud thing in melody so u could maybe put slider end on it or just anther click

00:24:548 (1,2) - imo better as 1/1 slider + circle cuz atm ists like 1 of the 1/2 sliders has a single vocal on it and the other 1 has 2 vocals so its weird

00:30:548 (2) - would b nice to make the 2 vocals clickable instead like u do theo ther times, this 1 seems lot less dense for no reason

00:33:548 (1,2,1,2) - its supposed 2 b a buildup whys the spacing get so much smaller

00:50:666 (4) - 2 clicks here would b nice for vocals

00:53:489 (1,2,3,4) - evry other time u did the blue tick slider thing, shd do it here 2 cuz the song is the same

01:06:548 (1,2) - randomly tiny visual spacing

[underforest]
00:01:783 (1,2) - actually i think all of these as sliders works a lot better with the melody

00:22:960 (1) - u shd put a flow change here then cuz its completely different part in the song lol

00:56:842 - wrong combo colorz

[lcfc]
00:30:548 (5) - yehaj this rhythm is still kidna bad cuz 00:30:724 - has a vocal i guess, like the "heart" only comes in on the white tick fully i think.. like ctrl go n 45 works a bit better imo

[yoshimaro]

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8464276 tbh a rhythm like this at 00:05:842 (1) - still works better to me cuz having a held out slider that is supposed to represent a sound that ends really fast doesnt make much sense lol

also i think ur color haxing got messed up cuz the girl part is using the guy colors

also i think the maroon combo color is still a bit dark but that might just b me

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Underforest 2017-06-29T04:48:11+00:00

fixed all and polished some stuff

osu file format v14

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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
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TitleUnicode:WWW.Blonde Girl (MOMO Mix)
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ArtistUnicode:Jenny Rom
Creator:Kaifin
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edit: fixed corruption

Last edited by Underforest 2017-07-06T21:56:30+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lcfc

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lcfc 2017-06-29T05:40:18+00:00

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osu file format v14

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Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-06-29T23:41:34+00:00

dsco wrote:
dorfin
00:14:136 (1) - nc seems to be for basically no reason (see others) nc is to emphasize that this is 3/4 and the clapping sound
00:55:783 (1) - you dont nc in the middle of other 9 note streams agree

Naotoshi wrote:
yeahaj
[dor,at]
00:32:489 (1) - y dont u make this same slider as 00:31:783 (1) - and ctrl g it so it looks nice used the same slider shape but the ctrl+g seems redundant imo

thanks you two- @kaifin can you fix the colourhacking i accidentally broke it

https://drmt.s-ul.eu/JFtaUChS

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-07-02T06:27:52+00:00

was afk for irl problems

the 1/8 buffers arent a problem for playability and rankability, there is a noob insane so if you can't play it it's just a matter of get good

QAT chatlog

Kaifin - Last Friday at 3:17 PM
o can i ask ur Professional QAT opinion about some unbuffered sliders
pishi - Last Friday at 3:18 PM
maybe
my word isnt law or anything
but i can check
Kaifin - Last Friday at 3:18 PM
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/588799
map
im on mobile so i cant link the sliders but theyre throughout the top diff
the unbuffered 1/8 repeats
bn is telling me its not fitting for target audience
wtf is target audience for a map like this
pishi - Last Friday at 3:20 PM
hopefully not what star rating says
much harder than that
Kaifin - Last Friday at 3:20 PM
yes
there is a noob pp insane
so i dont think theres a spread issue
pishi - Last Friday at 3:21 PM
same
Kaifin - Last Friday at 3:21 PM
do you think theyre unreasonable?
pishi - Last Friday at 3:21 PM
much harder stuff here than 1/8 sliders
they seem ok
also rc
doesnt say to buffer these
only longer stuff
Kaifin - Last Friday at 3:21 PM
i figured
they play like 1/4 gaps
thank you for the opinion im gonna post it in thread if thats fine
pishi - Last Friday at 3:23 PM
sure

yeah i'll change the other stuff just gimme a bit and i'll update all the diffs real life is taking its toll

7ambda

2,589 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-07-04T00:23:19+00:00

i don't think i've ever played a 4 star this confusing

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2017-07-05T12:08:40+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[yoshimaro]

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8464276 tbh a rhythm like this at 00:05:842 (1) - still works better to me cuz having a held out slider that is supposed to represent a sound that ends really fast doesnt make much sense lol yes

kaifin apply hitsounds on 00:05:842 - this stuff, thanks for waiting

i cant wait to be able to breath lmfao

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-07-06T02:25:16+00:00

rip star rating lol

tag me

My BG: https://puu.sh/wCFUr/104d4677ca.png

Difficulty Naming Scheme:

Rain -> Expert // Overdose -> Challenge

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Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Sing 2017-07-06T21:05:56+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[sing]

00:05:842 (5,1) - 1 has way 2 much emphasis, its completely unimportant in the song compared to 00:05:842 (5) - lol fixd

00:10:430 - i dont rly mind this minimalistic rhythm but this is pretty loud thing in melody so u could maybe put slider end on it or just anther click fixd

00:24:548 (1,2) - imo better as 1/1 slider + circle cuz atm ists like 1 of the 1/2 sliders has a single vocal on it and the other 1 has 2 vocals so its weird swithced so tht 00:24:548 (1) - repeats with 1 circle since i dont wanna miss the clap

00:30:548 (2) - would b nice to make the 2 vocals clickable instead like u do theo ther times, this 1 seems lot less dense for no reason fixd

00:50:666 (4) - 2 clicks here would b nice for vocals fixd

00:53:489 (1,2,3,4) - evry other time u did the blue tick slider thing, shd do it here 2 cuz the song is the same fixd

d https://puu.sh/wDiCY/ee3656ea15.osu

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-07-06T22:01:19+00:00

nudged the visual spacing point to the side a bit in sing's insane, keeping the descending spacing because it fits the vocal coming in

all diffs updated and ctb added

also @ the 1/1 line rhythm, i tried changing it and it sucks so i'm changing it back next update lol it's fine as it is

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2018-01-01T19:54:51+00:00

Can i poke u to rank this

LowAccuracySS

605 posts

Joined October 2015

LowAccuracySS 2018-01-04T13:17:54+00:00

LowComboFC wrote:
Can i poke u to rank this

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2018-02-28T20:59:34+00:00

ok changed the 1/4 jumps at 00:56:313 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - to something wayyyyyyy better and also applied minor fixes

Halfslashed

Global Moderator

438 posts

Joined July 2014

Halfslashed 2018-03-04T21:16:59+00:00

[General]
Delete ascendance blonde girl.png.
underforestbg.png is low quality so I found a better version.
There is a constant low volume setting for all difficulties aside from the top difficulty, and even the top difficulty is lacking somewhat. Try the following settings:
00:00:372 to 00:11:666 - 50%
Kiais - 60%
00:38:666 - 00:49:960 - 01:01:254 - 01:12:548 - 70%

[Normal]
00:10:254 (3) - I recommend using circles here to break up the long chain of sliders and create a stronger lead in to 00:11:313 (4) -.
00:50:666 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Some longer chains of sliders here than the intro make sense for progression, but this of consecutive sliders is too long. I recommend changing 00:56:136 (4) - into a 1/2 slider + circle to break up the chain somewhat.

[Advanced]
00:35:313 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Even for an advanced difficulty with your current spread this chain of 1/2 is way too large considering the difficulty below it. My suggestion is removing the circle at 00:36:195 - to break up the chains so you can still stress 00:38:313 (1) -. Make sure to also remove 00:41:842 - and other instances to make this more consistent.

[Hard]
00:04:607 (1) - Slider is unsnapped and should end on 00:04:783 -.

[Sing's Insane]
00:20:489 (3) - I recommend stacking this under the tail of 00:19:077 (1) - provide some more momentum into 4 and reduce the jump distance a bit.
00:47:754 (2,3) - 00:59:048 (2,3) - Spacing here is fairly weak considering this is a 1/2 gap so i'd recommend increasing it to make the jump to 4 stand out less.
00:53:842 (3) - I recommend moving this circle like this to reduce the jump distance here, since currently its the largest jump sequence in the map without being very intense at all.

Should be all.

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Sing 2018-03-04T21:44:49+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[Sing's Insane]
00:20:489 (3) - I recommend stacking this under the tail of 00:19:077 (1) - provide some more momentum into 4 and reduce the jump distance a bit. it is stacked tho
00:47:754 (2,3) - 00:59:048 (2,3) - Spacing here is fairly weak considering this is a 1/2 gap so i'd recommend increasing it to make the jump to 4 stand out less. fixed
00:53:842 (3) - I recommend moving this circle like this to reduce the jump distance here, since currently its the largest jump sequence in the map without being very intense at all. fixed

Should be all.

https://puu.sh/zADAO/7f8710a1c5.osu

Kaifin

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Topic Starter

Kaifin 2018-03-04T21:52:36+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
Delete ascendance blonde girl.png. deleted
underforestbg.png is low quality so I found a better version. replaced thank you
There is a constant low volume setting for all difficulties aside from the top difficulty, and even the top difficulty is lacking somewhat. Try the following settings:
00:00:372 to 00:11:666 - 50%
Kiais - 60%
00:38:666 - 00:49:960 - 01:01:254 - 01:12:548 - 70% did basically this

[Normal] replying for yoshimaro cause he is afk for 2 month doin some irl stuff
00:10:254 (3) - I recommend using circles here to break up the long chain of sliders and create a stronger lead in to 00:11:313 (4) -. did it
00:50:666 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Some longer chains of sliders here than the intro make sense for progression, but this of consecutive sliders is too long. I recommend changing 00:56:136 (4) - into a 1/2 slider + circle to break up the chain somewhat. did it

[Hard]
00:04:607 (1) - Slider is unsnapped and should end on 00:04:783 -. snapped this for him

Should be all.

i gave kudos Long Time Ago

lcfc

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Joined October 2015

lcfc 2018-03-05T12:50:42+00:00

fixed @advanced

Kaifin

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Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2018-03-05T18:17:30+00:00

all updated

Halfslashed

Global Moderator

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Halfslashed 2018-03-05T19:29:25+00:00

No Asia Argento reee

ailv

403 posts

Joined August 2015

ailv 2018-03-06T19:15:37+00:00

Forest

01:10:254 (4) - can you pull out this slider into a curve so it doesn't double back on itself

Sing's Insane ft. Kaifin
00:39:371 (4) - nc
01:01:960 (4) - nc
01:13:254 (4) - nc

onodera

00:31:783 (1,1,1) - i don't think you need to spam nc

00:38:136 (7,1,1) - this flow kinda sucks compared to 00:49:430 (7,1,1) -
if you change it to flow mroe circularly that'd be cool

lowfullcombofull100%
01:08:136 (1,2,3) - uh this angle kinda sucks to play compare to the other one, it's back and forth like, so i'd reocmmend you change it to something like 00:45:548 (1,2) -

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2018-03-06T19:23:29+00:00

Nnope

i don't really agree I think it plays very well even for a harsh angle and it's well organized too

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Underforest 2018-03-06T23:10:25+00:00

fix for me pls

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2018-03-06T23:40:21+00:00

ailv wrote:
onodera

00:31:783 (1,1,1) - i don't think you need to spam nc removed

00:38:136 (7,1,1) - this flow kinda sucks compared to 00:49:430 (7,1,1) - this is fine imo, it's just as circular as the other one you sent just horizontally rather than vertically
if you change it to flow mroe circularly that'd be cool

fixed everything else

good to go!

ailv

403 posts

Joined August 2015

ailv 2018-03-07T00:10:50+00:00

animemappinghao1222

yes we fixed some hs and nc again

Noffy

Nomination Assessment Team

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Joined April 2012

Noffy 2018-03-08T22:00:05+00:00

Hello, metadata check here.
I have some concerns about the capitalization.
The official references I found in regards to the MOMO mix had everything in the artist and title capitalized, without any lowercase characters at all, but your metadata is using lowercase characters.

-    Unicode Title: WWW.BLONDE GIRL(MOMO MIX)
-   Unicode Artist: JENNY ROM
-           Source: DDRMAX -DanceDanceRevolution 6thMIX-

- References:
+ http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/gs/max/
+ http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/ddrmax/music.html
+ https://noff.s-ul.eu/divlVQVY
+ http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/gamesoft.html

If there was something regarding this mix that I missed that shows the use of lowercase stuff is ok, please let me know so I can add that information to the metadata check o:
Otherwise, contact either a QAT, myself, or another metadata helper so that we can work on getting this fixed as soon as possible!

Kaifin

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Topic Starter

Kaifin 2018-03-08T23:36:09+00:00

yep you're right, woops! i just grabbed the metadata from ztrot's set from 80 years ago LOL thank you for the sources i'll call a qat

Kurai

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Kurai 2018-03-08T23:43:06+00:00

boop