I'm not the one calling others autistic online.Milkshake wrote:
that's rich coming from yousilmarilen wrote:
Most definitely, considering who you're talking to.
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quite a lot of people in this thread seem to have vast knowledge of autism, to the point where they can diagnose someone on the spot; amazing!
ah shit, you made the joke before meSeph wrote:
everyone on the internet is a psychiatrist!
damn, i wish i just didnt take up BS psych and just stayed on the internet for a long time
Seph
I’m sorry. You’re very right in this situation :pAurani wrote:
Thinking is more than certain people are capable of, though. That's very insensitive! :pHika wrote:
let’s sit down and think about what we’ve said here
Do not fuck with this shit it isn’t fucking cool I almost diedNessuka wrote:
Just smoke some DMT, sort yourselves out.
Then you missed the good bit.Hika wrote:
Do not fuck with this shit it isn’t fucking cool I almost diedNessuka wrote:
Just smoke some DMT, sort yourselves out.
Milkshake wrote:
that's rich coming from you
Look who finally noticed me! :pHika wrote:
I’m sorry. You’re very right in this situation :p
Welp, it was nice seein' you all in this old forum layout.
10 seconds 'till mindnight
A good thing about the new forum design is that it's actually more space-efficient than the old design when you're viewing a thread. Then they instantly ruin that again by making the design much less space-efficient when you view a subforum. And the absolute kicker? They are getting rid of thread pages. Hands down the single most retarded design choice ever made, instant dealbreaker. Do you guys know one freakin forum that doesn't use thread pages? I surely don't.
That's it for me. Time to retire and go back to the MAL forums. Fucking stupid. I really had faith in the development team to make this good, but apparently it's design > functionality to them. Too bad.
That's it for me. Time to retire and go back to the MAL forums. Fucking stupid. I really had faith in the development team to make this good, but apparently it's design > functionality to them. Too bad.
Holy fuck, threads have no pages???
This is the dumbest thing I have seen in a long time, wow
This is the dumbest thing I have seen in a long time, wow
There are pros and cons.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Holy fuck, threads have no pages???
This is the dumbest thing I have seen in a long time, wow
Something I should have done years ago lol. The clubs they have probably skips a ton of the hassle and bullshit here.Railey2 wrote:
That's it for me. Time to retire and go back to the MAL forums.
its been pretty clear for a long while that the dev team doesnt care about off topic subforums and only cares about mapping/tournament/help subforums and in that case the lack or pages will not change much
Green Platinum wrote:
There are pros and cons.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Holy fuck, threads have no pages???
This is the dumbest thing I have seen in a long time, wow
Can you list them?
It just fucks the sites functionality, makes it infinitely harder to browse through long threads. It also takes longer to load and you can accidentally trigger it by scrolling up too high, which is super dumb.
If you load too much shit, it becomes disorienting you lose your sense of where you are exactly in the thread pretty quickly, because the site you're on changes its length all the time. Try loading a bigger chunk of a thread and go back and forth a bit, it's not fun at all. You know why that never happens with thread pages? Because they're all the same length, and it's a length that you can take in without any trouble. 15 posts per page. Always. You can also easily tell how far back you went just by looking at the pagenumber.
With the new design though? Who the fuck knows. It's a mess. The best you can do is using the postnumber to navigate, but that's just super awkward in longer threads.
The only upside I can see is that you can load longer parts of conversations all at once, but that's not enough of an advantage to make up for all the shit we'd have to deal with if this garbage design gets forced on us.
If you load too much shit, it becomes disorienting you lose your sense of where you are exactly in the thread pretty quickly, because the site you're on changes its length all the time. Try loading a bigger chunk of a thread and go back and forth a bit, it's not fun at all. You know why that never happens with thread pages? Because they're all the same length, and it's a length that you can take in without any trouble. 15 posts per page. Always. You can also easily tell how far back you went just by looking at the pagenumber.
With the new design though? Who the fuck knows. It's a mess. The best you can do is using the postnumber to navigate, but that's just super awkward in longer threads.
The only upside I can see is that you can load longer parts of conversations all at once, but that's not enough of an advantage to make up for all the shit we'd have to deal with if this garbage design gets forced on us.
MAL Clubs are great. Now if only they didn't die out so quickly..Green Platinum wrote:
Something I should have done years ago lol. The clubs they have probably skips a ton of the hassle and bullshit here.Railey2 wrote:
That's it for me. Time to retire and go back to the MAL forums.
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Protest method: Making a new thread every single time it reaches 15-30 posts to keep the threads readable
What? Ofc it would have an impact in those places, why wouldn't it?Zain Sugieres wrote:
its been pretty clear for a long while that the dev team doesnt care about off topic subforums and only cares about mapping/tournament/help subforums and in that case the lack or pages will not change much
I pretty much agree with Railey overall. The dev team do care more about the design than the functionality of the users, especially as it doesn't affect them. The same happened with the new modding process with beatmaps where are lot of feedback/opinions (that aren't good ones) fall on deaf ears
It's almost as if the devs of this place are shit. Hmmmmm :^)
Have any of you actually tried to send feedback to peppy or link him this thread? I'm pretty sure noone cares about the forums as much as OT does, so it might be a good idea to let him know. He said the new website will never be a finished product, so maybe he's willing to listen (especially concerning the infinite scrolling feature)
not only does tuuba still have thread pages, it also has selections for how many posts you have per page (´･ω･`)
also less weebs
https://forums.tuuba.moe/
I'm having a ball with this casual promotional astrtoturfing thing I sure hope nothing goes wrong with it
also less weebs
https://forums.tuuba.moe/
I'm having a ball with this casual promotional astrtoturfing thing I sure hope nothing goes wrong with it
Especially concerning the infinite scrolling feature he's definitely not willing to listen.BrokenArrow wrote:
Have any of you actually tried to send feedback to peppy or link him this thread? I'm pretty sure noone cares about the forums as much as OT does, so it might be a good idea to let him know. He said the new website will never be a finished product, so maybe he's willing to listen (especially concerning the infinite scrolling feature)
I mean I know he has been very stubborn in the past but lately he seems to care more about what the community (i.e. reddit) thinks, so who knows dude
To be fair, you didn’t reply back to me.Aurani wrote:
Look who finally noticed me! :pHika wrote:
I’m sorry. You’re very right in this situation :p
Infinite scrolling did get a bit better, but still not like pages. Going by post enumeration instead of sets of 15 is weird.Endaris wrote:
Especially concerning the infinite scrolling feature he's definitely not willing to listen.BrokenArrow wrote:
Have any of you actually tried to send feedback to peppy or link him this thread? I'm pretty sure noone cares about the forums as much as OT does, so it might be a good idea to let him know. He said the new website will never be a finished product, so maybe he's willing to listen (especially concerning the infinite scrolling feature)
well what I meant was those subforums wouldnt be affected as much, I dont think map threads often exceed 10 pages or smth and in off topic subforums u see threads that are 50-100 pages long and moreKisses wrote:
What? Ofc it would have an impact in those places, why wouldn't it?Zain Sugieres wrote:
its been pretty clear for a long while that the dev team doesnt care about off topic subforums and only cares about mapping/tournament/help subforums and in that case the lack or pages will not change much
I pretty much agree with Railey overall. The dev team do care more about the design than the functionality of the users, especially as it doesn't affect them. The same happened with the new modding process with beatmaps where are lot of feedback/opinions (that aren't good ones) fall on deaf ears
>December 19th 2017BrokenArrow wrote:
I mean I know he has been very stubborn in the past but lately he seems to care more about what the community (i.e. reddit) thinks, so who knows dude
Oh my god, this is an excellent idea. 15 posts per thread, let's go.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Protest method: Making a new thread every single time it reaches 15-30 posts to keep the threads readable
Well, at least Tuuba Forums might become active again once the new layout gets forced.
Hah.BrokenArrow wrote:
Have any of you actually tried to send feedback to peppy or link him this thread?
Idk if you were there for it, but remember what happened when Granger gave a perfectly valid, long and detailed post about unused space in the new forum design? Remember peppy's reaction?
t/376031/start=30
no thanks. Peppy is a manchild. Let him have his shitty design. Time to move on.
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Also, peppy openly admitted to taking bribes to "look into peoples appeals". £60 for unban anyone? The staff has zero integrity. I expect nothing from them.
And besides, it's only gonna be the heavy users that are really unhappy with the new designs. They care most about functionality, after all. Everyone else? They'll love looking at something shiny and neat, probably won't even mind the infinite scrolling cancer, because they're not spending that much time on here either way.
So peppy will keep hearing from that group that the design is good, and guess who he's gonna listen to.
The design will work for the majority, so in that sense it is not a bad design. It's just really bad for us, sadly.
???????????Hika wrote:
To be fair, you didn’t reply back to me.
Reply back to you? What? Do show me, as I'm 100% sure I replied to you...
we needed to yell louder than ppy. smack him with a bratwurst while at it tooRailey2 wrote:
Idk if you were there for it, but remember what happened when Granger gave a perfectly valid, long and detailed post about unused space in the new forum design? Remember peppy's reaction?
t/376031/start=30
-Last post on a page is no longer relegated.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Can you list them?
-Less downtime reading through a thread.
-I actually think it is faster to scroll through to find a post if you are not sure how long ago it happened. (Although search is a thing)
How much does 100 pp cost?Railey2 wrote:
Also, peppy openly admitted to taking bribes to "look into peoples appeals". £60 for unban anyone? The staff has zero integrity. I expect nothing from them
depends on the booster of your choice
I'm talking buying directly from the pepster himself. Having no integrity and all.Zain Sugieres wrote:
depends on the booster of your choice
I've tried giving peppy feedback... his responses usually amount to something along the lines of "fuck you, I do what I like". Last time I wrote up an in-depth critique of score-v2, but the thread was deleted quite quickly.BrokenArrow wrote:
Have any of you actually tried to send feedback to peppy or link him this thread? I'm pretty sure noone cares about the forums as much as OT does, so it might be a good idea to let him know. He said the new website will never be a finished product, so maybe he's willing to listen (especially concerning the infinite scrolling feature)
lo and behold, the archetypal forum moderator, these type of people are everywhere. It's stupid really, a lot of people have no discipline or self-respect and jump at the opportunity to engage in a sort of hierarchical power play even if it's something as inconsequential as a forum.Green Platinum wrote:
Whoever is modding Otaku Culture now just shadow removes everything. As somebody who desperately wants that sub-forum to change this is depressing.
Fuck the mods and fuck how this forum is operated.
OT is good for the most part, with it being left to its own devices most of the time. Though it seems that's set to change with the new forum design. I wouldn't recommend going to Tuuba though, it's the same deal of intolerable personalities wielding moderator power.
but score-v2 won't be used, so we win anyway?B1rd wrote:
I've tried giving peppy feedback... his responses usually amount to something along the lines of "fuck you, I do what I like". Last time I wrote up an in-depth critique of score-v2, but the thread was deleted quite quickly.
people like being edgy and push boundaries then cry about it. It becomes a joke when people complain no action is being taken "where are mods? what they are doing?", while it is a hellscape of decision making for the mods themselves. People just have different standards and thresholds. Can't satisfy all of them. This is coming from my experience being the ot!neus discord admin, not really has anything to do with tuuba, but may be applicable.B1rd wrote:
OT is good for the most part, with it being left to its own devices most of the time. Though it seems that's set to change with the new forum design. I wouldn't recommend going to Tuuba though, it's the same deal of intolerable personalities wielding moderator power.
I mean of course you'd support anarchy (despite clear evidence of it being complete shit here) than some form of authority and order.
This place was a hundred times more active and lively when the kiddies didn't have the balls to post shitty threads about suicide or some other equally meaningless thing because they feared being shunned by the regulars and molested by the mod.
Won't comment on your Tuuba thing since it's clear that at this point it's far too late for you to realise anything.
This place was a hundred times more active and lively when the kiddies didn't have the balls to post shitty threads about suicide or some other equally meaningless thing because they feared being shunned by the regulars and molested by the mod.
Won't comment on your Tuuba thing since it's clear that at this point it's far too late for you to realise anything.
I only care about the rules being enforced consistently. If I take some of these edits seriously; calling yourself a snob is offensive language and saying thicc anime girls is sexual content.
It's basically club penguin.
It's basically club penguin.
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Maybe peppy is just overshooting backwards a bit when trying to fit in with the osu teenagers yes? Surely he's a nice guy or something in reality, deep inside, or something like that.B1rd wrote:
I've tried giving peppy feedback... his responses usually amount to something along the lines of "fuck you, I do what I like". Last time I wrote up an in-depth critique of score-v2, but the thread was deleted quite quickly..
I mean, Mara can be a bit of an egg sometimes, but I've not had any issues with Brian beforehand?B1rd wrote:
I wouldn't recommend going to Tuuba though, it's the same deal of intolerable personalities wielding moderator power.
well you can try to keep shutting your eyes at his blatant transphobia, bullying of community members and blatant ignorance of what the community actually wants, but I have a feeling it won't work foreverMomi wrote:
Maybe peppy is just overshooting backwards a bit when trying to fit in with the osu teenagers yes? Surely he's a nice guy or something in reality, deep inside, or something like that.B1rd wrote:
I've tried giving peppy feedback... his responses usually amount to something along the lines of "fuck you, I do what I like". Last time I wrote up an in-depth critique of score-v2, but the thread was deleted quite quickly..
honestly I think he just has an very little opinion of anyone that opposes his ideas, anyone without qualifications or of a statusMomi wrote:
Maybe peppy is just overshooting backwards a bit when trying to fit in with the osu teenagers yes? Surely he's a nice guy or something in reality, deep inside, or something like that.B1rd wrote:
I've tried giving peppy feedback... his responses usually amount to something along the lines of "fuck you, I do what I like". Last time I wrote up an in-depth critique of score-v2, but the thread was deleted quite quickly..
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I was like 1% serious, hopefully that's an appropriate amountTupsu wrote:
well you can try to keep shutting your eyes at his blatant transphobia, bullying of community members and blatant ignorance of what the community actually wants, but I have a feeling it won't work foreverMomi wrote:
Maybe peppy is just overshooting backwards a bit when trying to fit in with the osu teenagers yes? Surely he's a nice guy or something in reality, deep inside, or something like that.
wouldn't that just be more childish? not actually caring but still managing to flip out and act mad.Kisses wrote:
honestly I think he just has an very little opinion of anyone that opposes his ideas, anyone without qualifications or of a statusMomi wrote:
Maybe peppy is just overshooting backwards a bit when trying to fit in with the osu teenagers yes? Surely he's a nice guy or something in reality, deep inside, or something like that.
How is that related to Tuuba though? I understand where you are coming from with that and I don't deny it. I haven't done any moderation in Tuuba however.Tupsu wrote:
I mean, Mara can be a bit of an egg sometimes
it's because you're a moderator and bird mentioned people with moderator powers, so I gave my personal honest opinion about your suitability to moderatorshipMara wrote:
How is that related to Tuuba though? I understand where you are coming from with that and I don't deny it. I haven't done any moderation in Tuuba however.Tupsu wrote:
I mean, Mara can be a bit of an egg sometimes
when the memes are too next level, not even the people involved understand them
Let's be honest here, Mara is a Nazi, but the kind of harmless Nazi you'd want to keep around.
But I can only moderate Mafia forum. 
Your memes are too advanced here.
Your memes are too advanced here.
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hello my name is fredsjr but you can call me the osu challenge giver and i give challenges to streamers. but recently i made my own discord server to challenge you osu players. everyone is welcome. it is still really new so i would also like some help.
greetings from the osu challenge giver
https://discord.gg/BJTqeN
greetings from the osu challenge giver
https://discord.gg/BJTqeN
god bless
Friends,
Osumans,
countrymen,
Lend me your ears.
Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this internet a new game, conceived in Rhythm, and dedicated to the proposition that pp =/= skill.
Admittedly, there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in farming, and this is the specter that our well-meaning ranked friends refuse to face that their policy of farming is egotistical, and it gives no choice between pass and fail, only between choke or FC.
In a sense we've come to our game's website to submit a score. When the architects of our Game wrote the magnificent code of osu! stable and the osu! web, they were signing a promissory note to which every Osuman was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all osuthletes - yes, farmers as well as anti-farmers - would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of fun, pp, and the shitposting of the forums.
In the councils of the scoreboards, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted pp, whether sought or unsought, by the pp-farming complex.
No osu player can fully grasp how far and how fast we have come, but condense, if you will, the 50,000 ranked maps of the BNG's recorded history in a timespan of but 11 years.
5 years ago, the proudest boast was "I have 2,000pp". Today, in the world of farm maps, the proudest boast is "I have 10,000pp!" All farmers, wherever they may live, are secretly farmers, and therefore, as farmers, may take pride in the words "I am a farmer!"
This does not mean that you are boring players. On the contrary, the player above all other people prays for pp, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of choking. But always in our ears ring the ominous sounds of shitmiss: *record scratch*.
Osumans,
countrymen,
Lend me your ears.
Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this internet a new game, conceived in Rhythm, and dedicated to the proposition that pp =/= skill.
Admittedly, there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in farming, and this is the specter that our well-meaning ranked friends refuse to face that their policy of farming is egotistical, and it gives no choice between pass and fail, only between choke or FC.
In a sense we've come to our game's website to submit a score. When the architects of our Game wrote the magnificent code of osu! stable and the osu! web, they were signing a promissory note to which every Osuman was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all osuthletes - yes, farmers as well as anti-farmers - would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of fun, pp, and the shitposting of the forums.
In the councils of the scoreboards, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted pp, whether sought or unsought, by the pp-farming complex.
No osu player can fully grasp how far and how fast we have come, but condense, if you will, the 50,000 ranked maps of the BNG's recorded history in a timespan of but 11 years.
5 years ago, the proudest boast was "I have 2,000pp". Today, in the world of farm maps, the proudest boast is "I have 10,000pp!" All farmers, wherever they may live, are secretly farmers, and therefore, as farmers, may take pride in the words "I am a farmer!"
This does not mean that you are boring players. On the contrary, the player above all other people prays for pp, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of choking. But always in our ears ring the ominous sounds of shitmiss: *record scratch*.
Scoreboards are everything to real top players, that is pride. PP just happens.
E m i
Momi wrote:
I don't know what pp is i only play for high acc on streams can someone fill me in what's a pp
Those proportions are messed up. It's distracting.
Yeah her ass makes no sense there
maeshima ryou?Tupsu wrote:
Momi wrote:
I don't know what pp is i only play for high acc on streams can someone fill me in what's a pp
@momi what was your opinion on this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/40499
I saw you post in the thread but couldn't make out if you liked it or not
the proportions in that pic don't look out of place to me
I saw you post in the thread but couldn't make out if you liked it or not
the proportions in that pic don't look out of place to me
Kisses wrote:
@momi what was your opinion on this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/40499
I saw you post in the thread but couldn't make out if you liked it or not
the proportions in that pic don't look out of place to me
wow that sure was a good map
E m i
Kinda ugly but very much enjoyed it either way, I like those types of streamy maps, slightly hard to read/execute, hard to get good acc on. Not sure why everyone dislikes it but you knowKisses wrote:
@momi what's your opinion on this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/40499
I saw you post in the thread but couldn't make out if you liked it or not
I always like when there are more complex streamy maps. And semi-relatedly I also like to play maps like this https://osu.ppy.sh/b/246322&m=0 because to me gameplay > mappingam i being fucked with right nowMomi wrote:
Kinda ugly but very much enjoyed it either way, I like those types of streamy maps, slightly hard to read/execute, hard to get good acc on. Not sure why everyone dislikes it but you knowKisses wrote:
@momi what's your opinion on this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/40499
I saw you post in the thread but couldn't make out if you liked it or not
he linked literally nothing
E m i
The author "deleted" it
https://puu.sh/zuXW7/051d23b355.jpg
it was a map, i'll try to reupload?
https://puu.sh/zuXYA/04fe569a14.osz Yes i did
https://puu.sh/zuXW7/051d23b355.jpg
it was a map, i'll try to reupload?
https://puu.sh/zuXYA/04fe569a14.osz Yes i did
I have no idea I just steal memes from the internetxxjesus1412fanx wrote:
maeshima ryou?Tupsu wrote:
lol @ virgin men not knowing how spines work, the only thing a bit off with that image is the legs'/thighs' length to width ratio
E m i
She's basically doing a cat stretch. Although I think her ass is a bit prominent for a child's physique.
If you start from the neck, you trace out the spine to a different location than starting out on the other side
lmao you're criticizing an image you yourself postedTupsu wrote:
I have no idea I just steal memes from the internet
lol @ virgin men not knowing how spines work, the only thing a bit off with that image is the legs'/thighs' length to width ratio
what's even funnier is the fact that everyone is analyzing it because you brought it back up
y'all make me laugh
w h e w imagine being this pretentiousTupsu wrote:
lol @ virgin men not knowing how spines work, the only thing a bit off with that image is the legs'/thighs' length to width ratio
Holy shit John I've never seen such spice from youjohnmedina999 wrote:
lmao you're criticizing an image you yourself posted
what's even funnier is the fact that everyone is analyzing it because you brought it back up
y'all make me laugh
He learned from the spiciest individuals here in OT. Maybe I should try to be spicy too sometimeDaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Holy shit John I've never seen such spice from youjohnmedina999 wrote:
lmao you're criticizing an image you yourself posted
what's even funnier is the fact that everyone is analyzing it because you brought it back up
y'all make me laugh
So any update on the new forum layout replacing the old one?
should be about april/may. Looking at the issues tagged "required for live", some are in the February milestone, but others are in the candidate issues, and there are some high priority ones there too, which may take a month or two to get through.Green Platinum wrote:
So any update on the new forum layout replacing the old one?
abraker wrote:
but score-v2 won't be used, so we win anyway?
It was used in the tournament, so it's still a loss as far as I'm concerned.
Regardless of how bad regular users can be. doesn't excuse the shitty mods, of which there are many. As Green Platinum has mentioned, mods who enforce a practical set of rules consistently and without bias on their part or fine - but not very common. I've known plenty of mods who are completely adverse to any common sense or logic. For example, if I explain why a certain rule - one of their own at that - does not justify one of their actions, the will deny that it doesn't - they won't even admit it and then amend the rule set to exclude the undesirable behavior as I have suggested. Things like rules are felt by them as much a hindrance to those mods' uninhibited powers as it is to the users.
When I talk about anarchy, it's not some stupid lefty conception of the word in which they they disavow any form of hierarchy or authority (which is an amazingly stupid and goes against nature itself, any sane person can see that). To explain the Libertarian idea of anarchy would require a long technical discussion which I don't think anyone is interested in, but rest assured, it doesn't exclude authority or hierarchy.Aurani wrote:
I mean of course you'd support anarchy (despite clear evidence of it being complete shit here) than some form of authority and order.
This place was a hundred times more active and lively when the kiddies didn't have the balls to post shitty threads about suicide or some other equally meaningless thing because they feared being shunned by the regulars and molested by the mod.
Won't comment on your Tuuba thing since it's clear that at this point it's far too late for you to realise anything.
man will you love thisB1rd wrote:
Regardless of how bad regular users can be. doesn't excuse the shitty mods, of which there are many. As Green Platinum has mentioned, mods who enforce a practical set of rules consistently and without bias on their part or fine - but not very common. I've known plenty of mods who are completely adverse to any common sense or logic. For example, if I explain why a certain rule - one of their own at that - does not justify one of their actions, the will deny that it doesn't - they won't even admit it and then amend the rule set to exclude the undesirable behavior as I have suggested. Things like rules are felt by them as much a hindrance to those mods' uninhibited powers as it is to the users.
soulfear has always been one of my favourite mappers- really nice flowy cs5 maps. Probably driven to quitting by QAT drama.
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What do you expect me to think? I think that it's probably a bunch of sophistry, preaching to the choir on a circlejerk site that can't tolerate dissent (hence the race realism Subreddits taken down), but I myself don't understand the science nor do I have the inclination to educate myself to the degree that taking part in the that debate would require.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/badscience/comments/7nltbx/a_response_to_mouthy_buddhas_race_realism_video/?utm_source=reddit-androi
Thoughts? @b1rd
If your friend wants a serious discussion he should post his argument on Youtube not Reddit, JF is an unrelenting with response videos. However it seems the leftist gang have been routed from Youtube and have to recover by lurking in such place as Reddit since the hilarious exposé on Kraut and Tea and his gang of conspirators, which was made up of "scientists" of trans people and the like. For all their efforts to completely failed to debunk his arguments on an intellectual level, even after trying so hard and recruiting so many people intent on debunking race realism. If JF was such a moron as your Reddit man claims, unattested in his Reddit safe space, then such criticisms could have been brought up months ago, in which there were no shortage of left-inclined scientists to dispute JF's claims.
-the problem with rail networks is that regulation makes free-market competition and innovation impossible and creates local monopolyDaddyCoolVipper wrote:
b1rb should watch this video
-this regulation is needed because otherwise trains would crash (and produce would rot on the shelves, and toasters would explode, et cetera)
-this is why the free-market fails
Hardly a scathing rebuttal on privitisation when the system was newly-privitised system had heavy state involvement from the get-go, and has been held up from bankrupcy by heavy state subsidies, and was never a product of natural market formations in the first place. The assumption is that all this meddling in necessary otherwise trains would crash, et cetera (because it happened under Railtrack, and the failure of one business under a convoluted system and that proves the incompetency of all the whole market) while neglecting to mention that the British rail was in fact pioneered by private business, and was maintained with minimal government interference for over a hundred years and only nationalised in WW2.
However is the same ideological fervour that is accused as being the basis of privatisation that is the basis of the hatred of Uber. If they don't bow down to use and follow our arbitrary rules, they can go and the consumer be damned, they say. Oh no, they say, we can't allow two consenting individuals on their own free-will enter into an arrangement or contract without our oversight, they say, otherwise, we will get people with guns to stop it with force. This is the reality of collectivist thinking in economics, and you can see it clearly when there aren't theories of local monopolies and market failures to use as justification. Indeed, they would rather the actual monopoly of taxi companies to the impudence of a company functioning successfully without the pretence of being enabled by the state.
East-Asian women are generally the most attractive (and they seem to dress better too), though good looking White men are generally more attractive than most Asian men, though there are a lot more ugly White men than ugly Asian men. Though I think that Japanese and Korean men are generally a lot more better than Chinese men, which makes me wonder if societal health in a relatively short term has a lot significant effect on the general attractiveness of the population. Also, happas generally look worse than both Asians and whites. The Amerimutt meme is a reality. That is my ponderings on the different races.Meah wrote:
Filipino best race
Zain Sugieres wrote:
burn anyone whos not a 100% white heterosexualcatholicprotestant cis male
Your constant attacks on Peterson just show how much he is a threat to you.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Hey look, Jordan Peterson reiterated his batshit insane claims in a video call. Maybe they're not just twitter shitposts?
https://twitter.com/S_Saeen/status/955889027957297152
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that was hardly an attack, it's just funny how people like him (though actually maybe people on the opposide side of the argument as well) fail to realize that tendencies are tendencies. If muslims mistreat women 648%(example) as often as non-muslims (in an unspecified way) because of easily recognizable things like culture and religion (of which they only MAY be a part), it's easy to support their rights.B1rd wrote:
Your constant attacks on Peterson just show how much he is a threat to you.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Hey look, Jordan Peterson reiterated his batshit insane claims in a video call. Maybe they're not just twitter shitposts?
https://twitter.com/S_Saeen/status/955889027957297152
Why?
Because the percentage never reaches 100%, it's just a "tendency".
I thought most people hated Uber because their company has a track record for having extremely sexist attitudes towards its female employees?
Also, I honestly can't understand how we see things so differently. When you read over a thorough debunking of JF's ideas, and your response is to dismiss it all as "sophistry" in a "safe space"- it just baffles me. You're obviously not against looking into arguments; you seem to have watched that Shaun&Jen video. Oh, and on that topic I guess I'll just chime in that I think the post-nationalisation rail service existed in a VERY different world to pre-WW2 Britain; it's been around for so long that I think you can give it credit for its own success.
Also, I honestly can't understand how we see things so differently. When you read over a thorough debunking of JF's ideas, and your response is to dismiss it all as "sophistry" in a "safe space"- it just baffles me. You're obviously not against looking into arguments; you seem to have watched that Shaun&Jen video. Oh, and on that topic I guess I'll just chime in that I think the post-nationalisation rail service existed in a VERY different world to pre-WW2 Britain; it's been around for so long that I think you can give it credit for its own success.
Just found a new youtube channel to subscribe to. Excellent videos
Apprently the new website has a new search and I couldn't help but search for my nickname. I got really sad, 2012/2013 were simpler times.
I honestly miss a lot of you guys, is anyone still in contact with Kanye West?
If you wanna check out the new search: https://osu.ppy.sh/home/search
EDIT: I also found out that 4 people voted for my map in the "Best of 2013" ranking. Good confidence boost, better late than never I guess
I honestly miss a lot of you guys, is anyone still in contact with Kanye West?
If you wanna check out the new search: https://osu.ppy.sh/home/search
EDIT: I also found out that 4 people voted for my map in the "Best of 2013" ranking. Good confidence boost, better late than never I guess
At least search works on the new website tho, for me search does not work on the old one.
Hasn’t been for a couple of months now, I wonder if anyone else has the same problem too...
Hasn’t been for a couple of months now, I wonder if anyone else has the same problem too...
everyoneDJ Enetro wrote:
At least search works on the new website tho, for me search does not work on the old one.
Hasn’t been for a couple of months now, I wonder if anyone else has the same problem too...
they nuked the old search
heretic scumB1rd wrote:
Zain Sugieres wrote:
burn anyone whos not a 100% white heterosexualcatholicprotestant cis male
Your group thinks everything is sexist, so no surprises there.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
I thought most people hated Uber because their company has a track record for having extremely sexist attitudes towards its female employees?
Also, I honestly can't understand how we see things so differently. When you read over a thorough debunking of JF's ideas, and your response is to dismiss it all as "sophistry" in a "safe space"- it just baffles me. You're obviously not against looking into arguments; you seem to have watched that Shaun&Jen video. Oh, and on that topic I guess I'll just chime in that I think the post-nationalisation rail service existed in a VERY different world to pre-WW2 Britain; it's been around for so long that I think you can give it credit for its own success.
I didn't say everything was sophistry, I was everything was probably sophistry given the circumstances, but I wasn't going to invest the large amount of time needed to actually educate myself in that specific field to be able to address the points. But you have a lot of temerity to expect me to respond to the post when the post itself was never intended as an argument to engage in any sort of dialogue or discussion, but was merely for the purpose of preaching to the choir of people illiterate in that field but who were looking to gulp down any plausible scientific-sounding argument that validated their pre-conceived opinions founded in the first place on political disposition and not scientific truth.
Indeed the whole thing is just a diatribe that goes on insulting JF and his credentials as a scientists, spending as much time inferring intent and motivations (so this is where you learn it from) as it does addressing points. The author then states many times his refusal to engage with JF in any sort of debate whatsoever, the former of which is more than happy to respond to his critics in live debates or other means of their choosing. I hardly doubt that the people who are right would scamper from confrontation so readily and rely on confusing argument largely incomprehensible to the layman. And JF did, in fact, rebut the post in the comments below.
Apart from the pointed-out scientific fallacies like the continuum fallacy that keeps popping up ad-nauseam, which I might address later if I feel like it, I'd comment on the alarmist tone in which race realism, a.k.a science is constantly lumped in with the Nazis, the KKK and the genocide of 11 billion Jews and Gypsies, as if that is the logical conclusion from the realisation that some groups of humans are different from others. I'd like to point out that Nazi racialism is indeed pseudo-science; modern race-realism is much closer to the scientific understanding of the allies' on the subject of human biology at the time of WW2, before it essentially became a taboo subject as a result of Nazis. No, it's not any particular scientific truth that inevitably leads to genocide, but rather denying truth to fit some specific ideological agenda is more more dangerous.
I've been on JF's Discord which had quite a lot of intelligent and interesting people, from White nationalist to unashamed homosexuals, (you should go on there and escape from your bubble, in fact) pretty much everyone was on board with race realism, but there were a lot of different political conclusions drawn from that fact, with nationalists, globalists, Libertarians, et cetera there. One guy there was quite ardently in favour of race mixing and had an Asian girlfriend.
I really have no idea what you're trying to say, but I think that calling someone batshit insane constitutes an attack. Furthermore, just look at the type of people who posted the Tweet.Momi wrote:
that was hardly an attack, it's just funny how people like him (though actually maybe people on the opposide side of the argument as well) fail to realize that tendencies are tendencies. If muslims mistreat women 648%(example) as often as non-muslims (in an unspecified way) because of easily recognizable things like culture and religion (of which they only MAY be a part), it's easy to support their rights.
Why?
Because the percentage never reaches 100%, it's just a "tendency".
I don't know what these people's obsession with attacking someone's credentials is - apparently a PhD, over a hundred published papers, thousands of citations and even teaching at Hardvard for half a decade isn't good enough for them, and in fact, can easily be bested by a 20 year old. Apparently they have never heard the phrase "give the Devil his due".
Watching people like this fester in their safe spaces is really quite amusing, you wouldn't believe how malicious these people supposedly driven by compassion can be.
Repent, papist.Zain Sugieres wrote:
heretic scum
I'd like to specifically address this false equivalency.B1rd wrote:
Your group thinks everything is sexist, so no surprises there.
"Some social justice warriors throw false accusations of sexism, so that means that any and all accusations of sexism should be thrown away" is such a fucking stupid argument that it disappoints me to see anyone who isn't a young child use it. You can do much, much better than that, B1rd.
Again, you do a lot of reading in to things that aren't there. I never used the word "some", I said your group, implying all people with social justice leanings, are defined in part by their exaggeration of sexism against females, both in its frequency, impact and relevancy to society. And I didn't say sexism doesn't happen, I implied that what you call sexism is often just a triviality or justifiable behaviour, and you certainly seem to be exaggerating its relevance to Uber, whose problems certainly seems to be the typical regulatory and "worker's rights" complaints.
The word sexism itself is tied to the sjw ideology and theories of patriarchy and such that state that women are under widespread oppression in society. But such things are ludicrous when you look at things impartialy. Women benefit inordinately more from wealth redistribution schemes, they benefit from progressive actions schemes, they get off much lighter for identical crimes as men, they disproportionately win family court cases and have higher attendance at universities and achieve higher grades than men, and they commit suicide around 4 times less often. And then, even though things like feminism and affirmative action have wide-spread institutional support, people attack Jordan Peterson having the temerity of being a role model for young men and standing up for their interests. No wonder!
The word sexism itself is tied to the sjw ideology and theories of patriarchy and such that state that women are under widespread oppression in society. But such things are ludicrous when you look at things impartialy. Women benefit inordinately more from wealth redistribution schemes, they benefit from progressive actions schemes, they get off much lighter for identical crimes as men, they disproportionately win family court cases and have higher attendance at universities and achieve higher grades than men, and they commit suicide around 4 times less often. And then, even though things like feminism and affirmative action have wide-spread institutional support, people attack Jordan Peterson having the temerity of being a role model for young men and standing up for their interests. No wonder!
I love how you start this post by countering my deliberately-charitable interpretation of your words with an even more batshit insane claim, lol. "Not some people with social justice leanings, but ALL of them"- you're hilarious!B1rd wrote:
Again, you do a lot of reading in to things that aren't there. I never used the word "some", I said your group, implying all people with social justice leanings, are defined in part by their exaggeration of sexism against females, both in its frequency, impact and relevancy to society. And I didn't say sexism doesn't happen, I implied that what you call sexism is often just a triviality or justifiable behaviour, and you certainly seem to be exaggerating its relevance to Uber, whose problems certainly seems to be the typical regulatory and "worker's rights" complaints.
The word sexism itself is tied to the sjw ideology and theories of patriarchy and such that state that women are under widespread oppression in society. But such things are ludicrous when you look at things impartialy. Women benefit inordinately more from wealth redistribution schemes, they benefit from progressive actions schemes, they get off much lighter for identical crimes as men, they disproportionately win family court cases and have higher attendance at universities and achieve higher grades than men, and they commit suicide around 4 times less often. And then, even though things like feminism and affirmative action have wide-spread institutional support, people attack Jordan Peterson having the temerity of being a role model for young men and standing up for their interests. No wonder!
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/13/1579 ... huffington
Having read personal accounts of women who have quit Uber I think it's a fair judgement to call their workplace culture sexist.
The word sexism itself is tied to the sjw ideology and theories of patriarchy and such that state that women are under widespread oppression in societyJust because critique of patriarchy exists that doesn't mean "sexism" automatically means that in all contexts. Aren't you someone who complains about sexism against men?
Also, you're very transparently taking this opportunity to rattle off a bunch of MRA propaganda/talking points when the conversation wasn't even about that. I said Uber had a sexist workplace and now you're veering off-topic to talk about overall suicide rates, like, what are you smoking..?
As for Jordan Peterson I think you're deliberately oversimplifying people's criticism. I know lots of people make fun of his "clean your room" advice, but it's undeniably good advice. Critique is more often given towards the fact that he uses these techniques to build an audience of lonely/despondent young men and then provides them a gateway into alt-right ideology with his grandiose anti-postmodernism ranting and such.
E m i
his implication seems to be that the "wish for brutal male domination" comes from some assumed characteristic of "abusing women", assumed to be possessed by "muslims" and assumed to have a prevalence of 100%. the assumption makes no sense sadly, it's statistically wrong. if that is not the assumption and his assumption is closer to reality, then the "wish for brutal male domination" would be incompatibile with it.B1rd wrote:
I really have no idea what you're trying to say, but I think that calling someone batshit insane constitutes an attack. Furthermore, just look at the type of people who posted the Tweet.
example - i support the rights of black people not because of my wish for brutal crime, but because my brain is big enough to filter statistics, percentages, and understand words with more than 8 letters. sorry for an idiotic example.
Even groups where negative tendencies are directly implied and very significant, like "people who have a desire to kill someone" (isn't that very simple?) are simplifiable as a "higher percentage number on a chart" and have not done anything yet. Do you think thought crimes are a good idea? I'm not sure if you do but a tendency of a group is even weaker than a thought crime because not even a thought is guaranteed.
this can apply to any group, who knows - maybe gingers have a higher tendency of school shootings... i bet there are some interesting statistics and tendencies out there.
as someone with social justice leanings, my observations lead me to think that sexism is experienced in more or less equal intensity by both genders. but it also presents itself in different ways for each, so if one only looks into certain types/sources of sexism, they might weirdly misinterpret it as [insert gender] experiencing ALL sexism more than the other.B1rd wrote:
I said your group, implying all people with social justice leanings, are defined in part by their exaggeration of sexism against females, both in its frequency, impact and relevancy to society.
imagine if MRAs and feminists united into one group, it would be pretty cool i promise