Powerless feat. kakichoco - Vanity · forum

Testo

603 posts

Joined November 2014

Testo 2017-08-26T16:46:01+00:00

hi
[Sotarks' Arrogance]

00:07:024 - 00:17:690 - why you ignore piano here? imo its strong enough
00:45:190 (3,1) - bad overlap
00:47:357 (5) - 00:50:024 (5) -

[cereal's Extra]

00:06:190 (5,6) - stack?
01:22:357 (2) - imo 2 notes will be better

[Nao's Insane]

00:28:024 (3,3) - stack
01:17:191 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think its too hard for vocal only

gl

DeletedUser_423548

DeletedUser_423548 2017-08-27T09:19:34+00:00

m4m

General

Kakiless is the name of a circle. The artist is Kakichoco
https://diverse.direct/kakiless/odyssey/
Please align the Tag of Sotarks' Arrogance

Psionic & Kin's Easy

00:15:524 (3) - There is no piano sound at the beginning of the slider
00:22:024 - It might be better to add circle as it is very loud
00:44:357 - This sound should pick up

Normal

00:59:024 - I think that it is good to pick up this sound
01:20:357 - You should pick it up here as well to vocal
01:25:690 - 01:31:024 - 01:36:357 - ^

Wormi's Hard

00:01:357 (3) - This slider does not pick up lyrics
00:04:024 (2,3,4) - I think the same rhythm is the best
00:34:190 (1,2) - Can not stack?
00:41:357 (3,4) - 00:42:357 (2,3) - Why are the distances different?
00:38:690 (3,4,2,3) - You should keep this distance

Kyunada's Insane

Good map

Good song!
Best luck!

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-08-27T13:13:58+00:00

Yasaija 714 wrote:
m4m

General
Kakiless is the name of a circle. The artist is Kakichoco
https://diverse.direct/kakiless/odyssey/ "Tracks created by composers belonging to doujin circles should list the circle's name as the main composer." from ranking criteria
Please align the Tag of Sotarks' Arrogance fixed
Normal
00:59:024 - I think that it is good to pick up this sound
01:20:357 - You should pick it up here as well to vocal
01:25:690 - 01:31:024 - 01:36:357 - ^
Mainly mapped drums, so I don't feel like adding notes where you linked me, sorry !

Kyunada's Insane

Good map Thank you xd
Good song!
Best luck!

Thanks for modding !

Sotarks

3,524 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2017-08-27T13:35:05+00:00

thx

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 77107
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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GridSize: 4
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TitleUnicode:Vanity
Artist:Kakiless
ArtistUnicode:Kakiless
Creator:Kyuukai
Version:Sotarks' Arrogance
Source:
Tags:powerless kakichoco 柿チョコ 無力P MuryokuP Comiket Odyssey Utaite worminators linada yaleufeu celerih realazy psionic naotoshi sotarks
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Lumy's map was better

Wormi

200 posts

Joined November 2014

Wormi 2017-08-27T16:35:41+00:00

Yasaija 714 wrote:
Wormi's Hard
00:01:357 (3) - This slider does not pick up lyrics Simplified rythm here since it's the beginning of the map, I want it to be progressive
00:04:024 (2,3,4) - I think the same rhythm is the best
00:34:190 (1,2) - Can not stack? ??? being consistant with 00:33:190 (2,3,4) - which has basically the same sounds
00:41:357 (3,4) - 00:42:357 (2,3) - Why are the distances different? emphasing the high pitched "ding" as Kurai suggested
00:38:690 (3,4,2,3) - You should keep this distance

well, no changes

Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-28T19:08:17+00:00

yes

@kyuukai you could fix that pixel stack for me that testo pointed out. i can't exactly make a low ds'd pentagon any easier to play, so no change here

Ayana Hana

796 posts

Joined June 2014

Ayana Hana 2017-09-01T13:05:37+00:00

yaaaaaaaaas Kakiless on artist!

Sotarks

3,524 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2017-10-05T14:04:52+00:00

rank vanity

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-10-05T19:01:30+00:00

Sotarks wrote:
rank vanity

BN wher

Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-10-08T22:16:12+00:00

It can't be that hard to find xc

Aurele

Global Moderator

7,514 posts

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-10-08T22:18:29+00:00

you guys are weak

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2017-10-09T00:03:02+00:00

Nao pls bubble ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Nevo

Global Moderator

1,184 posts

Joined November 2015

Nevo 2018-01-30T22:54:42+00:00

normal
01:27:524 (4,5) - ds between these isnt consistent with the rest of the map

Kyunada's Insane
00:12:690 (5) - you could make this a repeat and just have a circle at 00:13:190 (6) - i dont know why but how you currently have it where 00:13:024 is a 1/2 slider makes me feel like there should be something afterword if that makes sense or just do it to be consistent with 00:10:024 (5,6) - xd
01:07:357 (1) - this note is less spaced than rest of stream maybe fix
01:21:024 (2) - stack is off
01:32:024 (3) - stack is off
01:36:690 (1) - <3

Nao's Insane
00:13:191 (5) - stack is off
00:26:357 (5,7) - these are not perfect overlaps if you stack the tail of 00:26:857 (7) - to the head of 00:26:357 (5) -
ok yeah nao i tried.

cereal's Extra
maybe use hp6 so its not less than nao's diff
00:26:190 (5) - nc this and unnc 00:26:357 (1) - to keep consistency with 00:28:857 (1,2) - and 00:31:524 (1,2) -
00:34:357 (3,4) - maybe dont stack these as it kinda deemphasizes 00:34:524 (4) - imo you could stack 00:34:357 (3) - to 00:34:190 (2) - to be consistent with your previous stacks like 00:31:524 (1,2) - and 00:28:857 (1,2) - and 00:26:190 (5,1) -
00:43:524 (1) - you could make this a 1/2 slider and then place a circle at 00:43:857 - so the kick is clickable also because like 00:43:690 - isn't as intense of a beat
01:04:690 (1) - blanket on tail could be better xd

Sotarks' Arrogance
maybe make od just 9
00:12:690 (1) - maybe make this 2 circles to be rhythmically consistent with 00:02:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
00:10:857 (10) - maybe blanket
01:01:357 (9) - spacing her could probably be lower since imo this beat isn't as intense as things like 00:45:357 (4,5) -
01:06:524 (9) - i get its the end of the section but the jump here shouldn't be larger spacing as kiai jumps like 01:22:690 (1,2,1,2) - or 01:31:190 (11,1) - maybe stack 01:06:524 (9) - with the head of 01:04:190 (8) - or something xd
00:31:690 (6) - pretty subjective but maybe move this a little to the left so the visual spacing of 00:31:024 (4,6) - and 00:30:024 (1,3) - are the same
00:45:690 (6) - nc here since its kinda the same thing you did at 00:24:357 (1) -
00:54:357 (2) - you could prob make this two circles kinda how you did 01:05:024 (2,3) - for consistency and also to reflect the vocal

Kyuukai

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Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2018-01-30T23:08:15+00:00

no reply = fixed

Nevo wrote:
normal
01:27:524 (4,5) - ds between these isnt consistent with the rest of the map

Kyunada's Insane
00:12:690 (5) - you could make this a repeat and just have a circle at 00:13:190 (6) - i dont know why but how you currently have it where 00:13:024 is a 1/2 slider makes me feel like there should be something afterword if that makes sense or just do it to be consistent with 00:10:024 (5,6) - xd I think it follows the vocals pretty well there tho, I made 00:12:690 - clickable because vocals are stronger here compared to 00:12:524 -
01:07:357 (1) - this note is less spaced than rest of stream maybe fix
01:21:024 (2) - stack is off
01:32:024 (3) - stack is off
01:36:690 (1) - <3 gay <3l

aaaaa

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2018-01-31T00:58:35+00:00

Replying for myself and Real per his request

Nevo wrote:
cereal's Extra
maybe use hp6 so its not less than nao's diff Would be better of the Insane nerfed the HP a bit too, but sure I'll up it a bit
00:26:190 (5) - nc this and unnc 00:26:357 (1) - to keep consistency with 00:28:857 (1,2) - and 00:31:524 (1,2) - done
00:34:357 (3,4) - maybe dont stack these as it kinda deemphasizes 00:34:524 (4) - imo you could stack 00:34:357 (3) - to 00:34:190 (2) - to be consistent with your previous stacks like 00:31:524 (1,2) - and 00:28:857 (1,2) - and 00:26:190 (5,1) - good catch, fixed
00:43:524 (1) - you could make this a 1/2 slider and then place a circle at 00:43:857 - so the kick is clickable also because like 00:43:690 - isn't as intense of a beat ya that was a dumb rhythm choice, fixed
01:04:690 (1) - blanket on tail could be better xd done

New diff

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Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2018-01-31T04:05:09+00:00

https://pastebin.com/raw/D1TySgNK applied

hp6 is bog standard for 180 bpm 1:30 maps so no need to change @celerih -_-

Sotarks

3,524 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2018-01-31T09:43:48+00:00

Nevo wrote:
Sotarks' Arrogance
maybe make od just 9 sure
00:12:690 (1) - maybe make this 2 circles to be rhythmically consistent with 00:02:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ok
00:10:857 (10) - maybe blanket didn't want to blanket here
01:01:357 (9) - spacing her could probably be lower since imo this beat isn't as intense as things like 00:45:357 (4,5) - wanna get snare emphasis
01:06:524 (9) - i get its the end of the section but the jump here shouldn't be larger spacing as kiai jumps like 01:22:690 (1,2,1,2) - or 01:31:190 (11,1) - maybe stack 01:06:524 (9) - with the head of 01:04:190 (8) - or something xd did smth
00:31:690 (6) - pretty subjective but maybe move this a little to the left so the visual spacing of 00:31:024 (4,6) - and 00:30:024 (1,3) - are the same k
00:45:690 (6) - nc here since its kinda the same thing you did at 00:24:357 (1) - ok
00:54:357 (2) - you could prob make this two circles kinda how you did 01:05:024 (2,3) - for consistency and also to reflect the vocal prefer keep here

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323,345,93857,1,8,0:0:0:0:
101,104,94024,6,0,P|173:168|177:216,1,115.199996484375,6|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
453,92,94357,2,0,P|368:65|332:87,1,115.199996484375,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,262,94690,2,0,P|335:310|372:194,1,230.39999296875,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,350,95190,2,0,P|157:330|162:275,1,115.199996484375,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,64,95524,1,8,0:0:0:0:
314,244,95690,1,2,1:0:0:0:
106,290,95857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
319,136,96024,1,10,0:0:0:0:
398,356,96190,1,2,1:0:0:0:
252,309,96357,1,2,0:0:0:0:
405,204,96524,1,10,0:0:0:0:
118,133,96690,5,4,1:0:0:0:
256,192,96774,12,0,99357,0:2:0:0:

Nevo

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Nevo 2018-01-31T20:28:15+00:00

what does this button do?

Bubbled!

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2018-01-31T20:29:22+00:00

~~GRATZ PSIONIC ON YOUR FIRST RANKED GD !!!!!!!!!~~

ah ok c'est juste bubble oups

Nevo

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Nevo 2018-01-31T21:09:55+00:00

rebubbled!

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2018-01-31T22:00:01+00:00

Since it's v1 you don't need to rebubble but make the diff settings on the lower diffs a bit more balanced? Easy and Normal are both HP 3, and AR 7 on Hard is kinda low but that's a bit more subjective.

(Also background was already used here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/344898 if you care)

Nevo

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Nevo 2018-01-31T23:00:28+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Since it's v1 you don't need to rebubble but make the diff settings on the lower diffs a bit more balanced? Easy and Normal are both HP 3, and AR 7 on Hard is kinda low but that's a bit more subjective.

Monstrata brings up a pretty good point I think you should change the hp of easy to 2 sorry

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-01-31T23:05:13+00:00

Alright then reduced the HP to 2 on the Easy diff and increased the AR on the Hard diff to 7.5
About the background I think it's fine keeping it as it doesn't show that one when browsing the website x)

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2018-02-03T04:49:37+00:00

cereal extra
01:20:690 (1,3) - this could be a blanket tbh
01:21:024 (2,1) - this could too

Nao's Insane
00:23:524 (1,2,3,4) - this would have a cooler effect imo if you ctrl G'ed and started it on the head of 00:24:691 (1) - instead, would also be somewhat easier identify 00:24:357 (1) -
01:06:524 - you're missing a drum here

rest looks fine lol

celerih

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celerih 2018-02-03T14:47:57+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
cereal extra
01:20:690 (1,3) - this could be a blanket tbh done
01:21:024 (2,1) - this could too that's not a blanket tho??? Plus both objects are never on screen time at the same time, so blanketing would do nothing

rest looks fine lol

@kyuukai: 01:20:690 (1) - move this to x;412 y:312 pls for me. Not really worth putting an entirely new .osu for one object

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2018-02-03T17:32:45+00:00

1st thing would kind of screw up my stack pattern - and also i did that pattern cuz i think the 1/4 is like a faster version of 1/2 so it works nicely.
https://pastebin.com/raw/tVsfArqF update it this time plz

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-02-03T17:33:47+00:00

updated

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2018-02-04T13:13:13+00:00

LOOKSGOODQUALIFIEDHEHEXD

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-02-04T13:16:00+00:00

Chromoxx wrote:
LOOKSGOODQUALIFIEDHEHEXD

LOOKSGOODQUALIFIEDHEHEXD

Bonsai

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Bonsai 2018-02-04T23:50:32+00:00

Have there been any mods for the (apparently very new) Psionic & Kin's Easy beside the three points from Yasaija 714 which haven't been responded to yet? Anyways, I have some major concerns about that diff:

Intro section:
1. First of all, what is the hitsounding on 00:06:690 (2,3) - 00:17:357 (2,3) supposed to follow? I almost looks like you want to emphasize the vocals here, but that doesn't work since the vocals have been completely ignored in every other aspect everywhere here. Hitsounding should compliment your mapping, so either map something different, or hitsound in a different way.
2. Out of the eight combos in this section, seven combos use the exact same rhythm. That's extremely monotonous and boring to play, and the song has much more to offer than just that. Please try being more creative, maybe by following/including a different layer of the song that does more than just repeating itself (for example vocals).
3. The one time you use a different rhythm here, I don't really see why. Neither 00:05:024 nor 00:05:690 seem to land on anything that you're following in your mapping, why are those beats mapped? Easy-diffs don't need to be filled with filler-rhythms, don't be afraid to offer a bit of a "rest" for the player.
4. 00:15:524 - As Yasaija pointed out in their mod, there is nothing at all here in the song. You mapped it differently the first time that occured, why did you just repeat the other monotonous rhythm here? It doesn't fit the music at all
00:28:357 (2) - Why is this slider reversed / what is it supposed to follow? I don't hear any special note on the reversed part of the sliderbody or on the tail at 00:29:690
00:34:690 (3,4) - Rhythm-wise, these two circles are special as they're completely different to the previous rhythms and object-choices, but the hitsounding doesn't reflect that - Try using a Clap instead of the Whistle on (3) so that these two circles work better together, right now the (3) is hitsounded like an ordinary filler-note and only (4) stands out, but in the map they both stand out, which should ideally be represented in the hitsounding too.
00:43:357 (3,1,2) - The rhythmic patterning gets interrupted here, but there isn't really any indication why that happens - 00:44:690 is the first note after this extraordinary big gap between 00:43:357 (3,1) but there is no beat there at all in the song, and there isn't any hitsounding on that note either, so why is it even mapped and emphasized more than anything else because of that special, big gap before it?
In the section from 00:46:024 onwards I have no clue what the rhythms are supposed to follow or represent. Just looking at 00:46:024 (1,2,3) -, this combo does clearly not follow neither piano nor drums since there are more notes of that layer ignored than mapped, and the vocals have strong emphasis on 00:47:357 and 00:47:857 which are either mapped as slidertails or not mapped at all. The following combos don't make much more sense to me either. I'd offer suggestions on how to improve it, but honestly I don't know what you where trying to go for, so please try to make that more clear in your mapping. Additionally, the hitsounding is extremely lacking again, as for example 00:47:024 (2,3) doesn't have any hitsound at all.
01:11:690 (2) - What's this slider following? So far, this section seems like you're trying to follow vocals, but the vocals have a break during the reverse of 01:10:024 (1) but start again at 01:11:190 which is also imo a much stronger note than any of the following notes, so why is there a big gap around that new vocal line, the next object (2) only emphasizing the middle of that line?
01:13:024 (1) - The tail of the previous slider and this slider go against natural beat priority without any apparent reason - At 01:12:690 there is that strong downbeat that starts a new rhythm, but you're only starting to suddenly emphasize that rhythm with the sliderhead and new combo at 01:13:024 which is offbeat (see this for some musical background (it's not the best but should give you a quick overview on what beats are naturally more important when all beats have the same sounds on them)).
01:14:024 (3) - Right after you've started to follow that bass-kick-bass-kick-rhythm you're ignoring all the beats between head and tail of this slider, why? The vocals only start at 01:13:357 -(which you didn't emphasize) and get more dense after that, but your map gets less dense bc of that slider, so it's again not recognizable what you're trying to follow here. Here's a small suggestion of how to fix this and the previous point

I'll stop here for this diff, the Kiai doesn't seem to have such big problems anymore anyways. In general, this difficulty struggles with following elements of the song in a recognizable and consistent way, and the hitsounding is mostly lacking and sometimes emphasizing beats that are neglected in the beat-placement.

I'd also like to point out a few issues in the other diffs that I've looked at:

Kyunada's Insane

00:02:357 (6,7,1) - Beat-placement here seems mixed up, the strong vocal note at 00:02:524 is also emphasized by your hitsounding but mapped with a slidertail, the same way as the completely irrelevant note at 00:03:190 -, which seems very unstructured, and not emphasizing 00:02:524 in gameplay just feels off in general - If you want to keep (6) as it is I'd suggest this in order to give the tail of (6) some meaning (instead of just being ignored in gameplay bc you're already moving to the next object) and avoiding (7)'s overlap too, or this rhythm which would give more emphasize the beats more clearly too
00:05:857 (1,2) - Why are none of these notes hitsounded, while 00:06:690 (3) has a seemingly random Whistle?
Actually, your hitsounding along with what you emphasized in your beat-placement seems very messy in this whole section, there's a holding vocal note during 00:08:190 (7,8) which you mapped as circles, which gives both of 00:08:524 (8,1) much more emphasis, but both of them feel like filler-notes since they're either representing either no beat at all or just the downbeat which you ignored previously, and they're not hitsounded either, which makes it feel even more 'empty'. Even more so at 00:09:024 (2,3,4,5,6) where you're mapping a very dense chain of 1/2-notes but only hitsounding two of them. That sudden Whistle at 00:09:357 kinda seems like emphasizing that strong piano-note there, which seems arbitrary since you didn't follow the piano much at all and ignore it later in that combo too. If you want to emphasize the vocals, do that more consistently by also playing whistles at 00:09:024 and 00:10:024 -, simply following the accentuations of those vocals.
00:17:357 (3) is just another example of seemingly random hitsounding, you used Whistles on very many vocal notes prior to that, but then you suddenly stop that and use it for piano again? Just seems very messy to me. If you want to hitsound multiple layers, try using different hitsounds for each layer, and don't only do it every now and then, but be more consistent with it, in order to make these hitsounds sounds more natural and consistent instead of random. 00:18:357 (2,3) and 00:20:690 (5) are yet some more examples of your hitsounding contradicting the emphasis of your beat-placement.
00:28:024 - 00:31:690 - Why are you making beats like these land on slidertails? You're emphasizing them by making them clickable most of the time, but here they get no emphasis at all, at the first spot they get ingored even more by 00:27:857 (2) flowing nicely into 00:28:357 (1) which makes that tail completely irrelevant in gameplay and basically makes the player have an awkwardly slow 3/2-gap where the flow continues but the distance is so low that they have to slow down during that strong beat.
00:46:024 - While I don't have anything against the idea of making this section follow drums in this way, the filler-rhythms used in this section seem very random to me - At 00:47:024 (3) you're mapping a 1/1-filler which seems very natural to me, but then you skip that at 00:49:690 and map 00:49:857 (1,2) for some reason I don't see. At 00:55:024 (1) you suddenly map that 1/1-filler again, and 00:55:524 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) is suddenly a dense cluster of notes that would make much more sense if 00:55:690 (2) wasn't mapped but like this it just feels like a-1/2-spam-chain not following much.
Same goes for 00:57:857 (1,2) - 01:00:524 (1,2) -, after those it suddenly is very consistent for some reason o:
01:19:190 (4) - Seems weird to me to not NC notes like these where the vocals start after having a pause, whereas I don't see the reason to NC stuff like 01:20:024 (1) -
01:22:690 (7) - 01:25:690 (3) - etc feel off hitsounding-wise, they emphasize their tails very much even though those tails are otherwise irrelevant for the gameplay, and the hitsounds aren't forming very consistent patterns in general either. For spots like 01:18:024 (1,2) it seems weird that the second objects have those Whistles which would also make sense at the first object since they're both having that same beat in the song, but the Finish doesn't compensate for that hitsound at all - Originally I thought you didn't use Whistles there bc of conflicting samplesets but they're actually not conflicting lol

Sotarks' Arrogance

00:06:690 (10) - What's that hitsound which was previously used for the downbeat emphasizing here? And why are this and 00:07:024 (11) even circles/mapped? You seemed to focus on vocals very well so far, but here you're cutting 00:06:357 (9) to 1/2 just to map two circles that don't fit into your beat-structure at all
00:11:357 (11) - This circle seems lost without the usual hitsound
00:12:690 (4,6) - This is a weird mix-up of identical objects and hitsounding even though the tails should have different emphasis since you're following vocals
00:14:024 (1) - Holla what's this NC doing here
00:24:690 (1,4) - 00:27:357 (1,4) - 00:30:024 (1,4) - 00:32:690 (1,5) - etc. What is hitsounding-consistency
Not a problem per se but I feel like using Normal-hitnormals as kicks at 00:25:190 - 00:26:357 - etc doesn't really work well bc those hitnormals sound like snares to me too in relation to everything else, so since the song itself already has a not-so-common pattern of kick/snare this makes it even less clear for me
00:47:357 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - 00:49:857 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 00:55:024 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,1,2) - I have a huge issue with all of those spots bc you're mixing vocals and drums together into convoluted circle-chains even though you're not emphasizing the drums at all outside of those circle-chains and rather focusing on vocals like always before. If you really want to emphasize the drums there all of a sudden, I'd advise to throw in one or two sliders whose tails land on beats where there are no drums to make that emphasize clear, otherwise it just seems like a jump-spam that doesn't follow anything in particular bc it tries to follow everything at the same time.
Especially applies to spots/notes like 01:22:690 (1,2,1,2) where those two combos are the exact same pattern while they're mapped to completely different things that don't even have the same intensity, in this case 01:22:857 (2) is the note that completely destroys the meaning of any other notes by being emphasizing just as much, which could easily be avoided by making it a slidertail or whatever
00:54:357 - hitsound helo
also 01:29:024 -

In conclusion, I have big quality-concerns about the Easy in general, about hitsounding in some diffs and about some focusing in the highest diff, and a lot of the set overall seems like it could've desperately needed some closer checking as there are still a lot of obvious issues left that could be fixed easily.

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-02-05T01:49:49+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
I'd also like to point out a few issues in the other diffs that I've looked at:

Kyunada's Insane
00:02:357 (6,7,1) - Beat-placement here seems mixed up, the strong vocal note at 00:02:524 is also emphasized by your hitsounding but mapped with a slidertail, the same way as the completely irrelevant note at 00:03:190 -, which seems very unstructured, and not emphasizing 00:02:524 in gameplay just feels off in general - If you want to keep (6) as it is I'd suggest this in order to give the tail of (6) some meaning (instead of just being ignored in gameplay bc you're already moving to the next object) and avoiding (7)'s overlap too, or this rhythm which would give more emphasize the beats more clearly too The whole intro is mapped with Distance Snapping, also, I made a break between 00:02:357 (6,7) - to follow the vocals better. 00:02:857 (7) - is different compared to 00:02:357 (6) - that's why I decided to make them separate. It's consistant through the whole intro so I don't think it's a big issue there

I'll fix the other stuff you linked on ur mod after asking for a dq, will also tell the others to reply aswell.

Thanks for your help !

pishifat

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pishifat 2018-02-05T01:57:43+00:00

as requested

Hysteria

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Hysteria 2018-02-05T02:04:46+00:00

Kyuukai maps should stay in grave

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-02-05T02:06:09+00:00

Hysteria wrote:
Kyuukai maps should stay in grave

why yo so rood man

(((((((((((((

Hysteria

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Hysteria 2018-02-05T02:08:31+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
Hysteria wrote:
Kyuukai maps should stay in grave
why yo so rood man (((((((((((((

Because love starts with fighting <3

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-02-05T02:10:43+00:00

Hysteria wrote:
Because love starts with fighting <3

gya

Hysteria

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Hysteria 2018-02-05T02:11:06+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
Hysteria wrote:
Because love starts with fighting <3
gya

no homo gya so its all cool

Kin

2,622 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2018-02-05T06:51:36+00:00

actually, i wasnt aware of his mod
anyway

Yasaija 714 wrote:
Psionic & Kin's Easy
00:15:524 (3) - There is no piano sound at the beginning of the slider ye fixed
00:22:024 - It might be better to add circle as it is very loud i dont really think it is necessary for an easy diff
00:44:357 - This sound should pick up ye fixed

Bonsai wrote:
Have there been any mods for the (apparently very new) Psionic & Kin's Easy beside the three points from Yasaija 714 which haven't been responded to yet? Anyways, I have some major concerns about that diff:

Intro section:
First of all, what is the hitsounding on 00:06:690 (2,3) - 00:17:357 (2,3) supposed to follow? I almost looks like you want to emphasize the vocals here, but that doesn't work since the vocals have been completely ignored in every other aspect everywhere here. Hitsounding should compliment your mapping, so either map something different, or hitsound in a different way. pretty much copy paste from other diff ; gonna fix it to follow my rhythm
Out of the eight combos in this section, seven combos use the exact same rhythm. That's extremely monotonous and boring to play, and the song has much more to offer than just that. Please try being more creative, maybe by following/including a different layer of the song that does more than just repeating itself (for example vocals). thats called consistency. I don't randomly change my focus. I only change focus if the song clearly change aka the song change part
The one time you use a different rhythm here, I don't really see why. Neither 00:05:024 nor 00:05:690 seem to land on anything that you're following in your mapping, why are those beats mapped? Easy-diffs don't need to be filled with filler-rhythms, don't be afraid to offer a bit of a "rest" for the player. ye, it's quite inconsistent with the other, anyway fixed
00:15:524 - As Yasaija pointed out in their mod, there is nothing at all here in the song. You mapped it differently the first time that occured, why did you just repeat the other monotonous rhythm here? It doesn't fit the music at all
00:28:357 (2) - Why is this slider reversed / what is it supposed to follow? I don't hear any special note on the reversed part of the sliderbody or on the tail at 00:29:690 https://puu.sh/zgZ2M/c87527c57f.jpg anyway, changed since its inconsistent with the other
00:34:690 (3,4) - Rhythm-wise, these two circles are special as they're completely different to the previous rhythms and object-choices, but the hitsounding doesn't reflect that - Try using a Clap instead of the Whistle on (3) so that these two circles work better together, right now the (3) is hitsounded like an ordinary filler-note and only (4) stands out, but in the map they both stand out, which should ideally be represented in the hitsounding too. as stated hitsound changed
00:43:357 (3,1,2) - The rhythmic patterning gets interrupted here, but there isn't really any indication why that happens - 00:44:690 is the first note after this extraordinary big gap between 00:43:357 (3,1) but there is no beat there at all in the song, and there isn't any hitsounding on that note either, so why is it even mapped and emphasized more than anything else because of that special, big gap before it? changed with yasaija's mod ; build up
In the section from 00:46:024 onwards I have no clue what the rhythms are supposed to follow or represent. Just looking at 00:46:024 (1,2,3) -, this combo does clearly not follow neither piano nor drums since there are more notes of that layer ignored than mapped, and the vocals have strong emphasis on 00:47:357 and 00:47:857 which are either mapped as slidertails or not mapped at all. The following combos don't make much more sense to me either. I'd offer suggestions on how to improve it, but honestly I don't know what you where trying to go for, so please try to make that more clear in your mapping. Additionally, the hitsounding is extremely lacking again, as for example 00:47:024 (2,3) doesn't have any hitsound at all. 00:48:190 - > 00:47:357 - 00:47:690 -
01:11:690 (2) - What's this slider following? So far, this section seems like you're trying to follow vocals, but the vocals have a break during the reverse of 01:10:024 (1) but start again at 01:11:190 which is also imo a much stronger note than any of the following notes, so why is there a big gap around that new vocal line, the next object (2) only emphasizing the middle of that line? i do not intend to use such snap as 3/2 or other weird snap in this difficulty (as active object)
01:13:024 (1) - The tail of the previous slider and this slider go against natural beat priority without any apparent reason - At 01:12:690 there is that strong downbeat that starts a new rhythm, but you're only starting to suddenly emphasize that rhythm with the sliderhead and new combo at 01:13:024 which is offbeat (see this for some musical background (it's not the best but should give you a quick overview on what beats are naturally more important when all beats have the same sounds on them)). ^
01:14:024 (3) - Right after you've started to follow that bass-kick-bass-kick-rhythm you're ignoring all the beats between head and tail of this slider, why? The vocals only start at 01:13:357 -(which you didn't emphasize) and get more dense after that, but your map gets less dense bc of that slider, so it's again not recognizable what you're trying to follow here. Here's a small suggestion of how to fix this and the previous point changed in another way
I'll stop here for this diff, the Kiai doesn't seem to have such big problems anymore anyways. In general, this difficulty struggles with following elements of the song in a recognizable and consistent way, and the hitsounding is mostly lacking and sometimes emphasizing beats that are neglected in the beat-placement.

thanks for mod \o
psionic has no idea what is hitsound so i'm taking care of it

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

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neonat 2018-02-05T10:16:55+00:00

Tracks created by composers belonging to doujin circles should list the circle's name as the main composer. The sole exception to this is when a composer of a given circle is well-known enough by their own name. In this case, their own composer name may be used instead.

They are more known as Powerless feat. kakichoco though, which is also the given album artist of the album the song is from

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29376628

Other examples include their subsequent album, which they have no mention of Kakiless on the album, aside from the initials of the code KKLS-002

Circle names are sometimes not relevant to the songs or albums they make, at times they just use it to be under a certain name as they booth/sell at events, not as the album artist for their songs.

Like how YM sells/booths under ネネバネバネマレ団, 柊南（ひいな）under ひなころ, Φ串Φ under 941project, *菜乃 under なのみん*まーと, 96Neko under 96ねこじゃらし, Kano under ばんび～の, ayaponzu under ぽんず屋＊, sana under ぷりっくす, Hiiragi Yuka under ゆかりす出張所, きくお under Kikuo Sound Works, etc.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2018-02-05T10:24:45+00:00

Bonsai

I thought

you retired

from BN...

Why

are you

wallmodding

Are you looking

to re-enter?

Cuz I think

you already have

enough good

mods anyways

Kyuukai

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Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2018-02-05T12:31:55+00:00

neonat wrote:
Tracks created by composers belonging to doujin circles should list the circle's name as the main composer. The sole exception to this is when a composer of a given circle is well-known enough by their own name. In this case, their own composer name may be used instead.
They are more known as Powerless feat. kakichoco though, which is also the given album artist of the album the song is from

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29376628
Other examples include their subsequent album, which they have no mention of Kakiless on the album, aside from the initials of the code KKLS-002

Circle names are sometimes not relevant to the songs or albums they make, at times they just use it to be under a certain name as they booth/sell at events, not as the album artist for their songs.

Like how YM sells/booths under ネネバネバネマレ団, 柊南（ひいな）under ひなころ, Φ串Φ under 941project, *菜乃 under なのみん*まーと, 96Neko under 96ねこじゃらし, Kano under ばんび～の, ayaponzu under ぽんず屋＊, sana under ぷりっくす, Hiiragi Yuka under ゆかりす出張所, きくお under Kikuo Sound Works, etc.

Changing the artist name to "Powerless feat. kakichoco" then

Thanks !

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2018-02-05T18:42:02+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Sotarks' Arrogance
00:06:690 (10) - What's that hitsound which was previously used for the downbeat emphasizing here? And why are this and 00:07:024 (11) even circles/mapped? You seemed to focus on vocals very well so far, but here you're cutting 00:06:357 (9) to 1/2 just to map two circles that don't fit into your beat-structure at all so 00:07:024 (11) - this is actually a piano sound that's why i mapped it, and to avoid the weird break in the rhythm. and 00:06:690 (10) - this is emphasized with a drum sampleset because it's a strong piano sound, it's nice to have hitsound alternative.
00:11:357 (11) - This circle seems lost without the usual hitsound added a drum sampleset sorry
00:12:690 (4,6) - This is a weird mix-up of identical objects and hitsounding even though the tails should have different emphasis since you're following vocals i don't want this 00:12:690 (4) - to be so dense in the slow part, so rhythm makes sense to me
00:14:024 (1) - Holla what's this NC doing here fixed
00:24:690 (1,4) - 00:27:357 (1,4) - 00:30:024 (1,4) - 00:32:690 (1,5) - etc. What is hitsounding-consistency Fixed
Not a problem per se but I feel like using Normal-hitnormals as kicks at 00:25:190 - 00:26:357 - etc doesn't really work well bc those hitnormals sound like snares to me too in relation to everything else, so since the song itself already has a not-so-common pattern of kick/snare this makes it even less clear for me imo normal sampleset fits.
00:47:357 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - 00:49:857 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 00:55:024 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,1,2) - I have a huge issue with all of those spots bc you're mixing vocals and drums together into convoluted circle-chains even though you're not emphasizing the drums at all outside of those circle-chains and rather focusing on vocals like always before. If you really want to emphasize the drums there all of a sudden, I'd advise to throw in one or two sliders whose tails land on beats where there are no drums to make that emphasize clear, otherwise it just seems like a jump-spam that doesn't follow anything in particular bc it tries to follow everything at the same time.
Especially applies to spots/notes like 01:22:690 (1,2,1,2) where those two combos are the exact same pattern while they're mapped to completely different things that don't even have the same intensity, in this case 01:22:857 (2) is the note that completely destroys the meaning of any other notes by being emphasizing just as much, which could easily be avoided by making it a slidertail or whatever prefer to keep my pattern i want whole emphasis here on vocal+drums.
00:54:357 - hitsound helo fix
also 01:29:024 - fix

Thanks!

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Linada

995 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2018-02-05T20:40:11+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Kyunada's Insane
00:28:024 - 00:31:690 - Why are you making beats like these land on slidertails? You're emphasizing them by making them clickable most of the time, but here they get no emphasis at all, at the first spot they get ingored even more by 00:27:857 (2) flowing nicely into 00:28:357 (1) which makes that tail completely irrelevant in gameplay and basically makes the player have an awkwardly slow 3/2-gap where the flow continues but the distance is so low that they have to slow down during that strong beat.

i kinda disagree with slidertails not giving any emphasis, plus 1/1 gaps + next object being stacked fit really well for thoses parts, though i fixed 00:27:857 (2) - because actually you're kinda right, if next object isn't stacked to sliderend movement is kinda killed and gives no emphasis at all

also fixed the nc 01:19:190 (4) -

thanks!

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2018-02-05T22:03:27+00:00

Alright, I talked with Bonsai a bit and he said he was fine with the changes we made

Nevo

Global Moderator

1,184 posts

Joined November 2015

Nevo 2018-02-05T22:38:57+00:00

welp seems we are ready for round 2

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2018-02-05T22:39:32+00:00

edit: oh hi lol

That's quite out of context but yeah, most the major concerns I've had are now much better, though I still feel like a bit more thorough modding could help this mapset, so maybe consider getting one or two more good mods. If the nominating BNs could thoroughly check everything again and also reconsider the points I've raised that haven't been changed themselves, that might help too.

and just one quick reply to Sotarks:

prefer to keep my pattern i want whole emphasis here on vocal+drums.

My entire point was that emphasizing both at the same time doesn't work well when it ends up in circle-spam - Emphasizing everything emphasizes nothing (pretty basic stuff), in this case because you emphasize 01:22:857 (2) so much, 01:23:024 (1,2) barely stands out at all anymore as there is almost no contrast to the previous pattern, which applies to all of those circle-chains. There aren't any notes that aren't emphasized, which makes everything less emphasized in relation to that.

Kyuukai

1,516 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Kyuukai 2018-02-07T21:08:23+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
edit: oh hi lol

That's quite out of context but yeah, most the major concerns I've had are now much better, though I still feel like a bit more thorough modding could help this mapset, so maybe consider getting one or two more good mods. If the nominating BNs could thoroughly check everything again and also reconsider the points I've raised that haven't been changed themselves, that might help too.

I had 3 BN checks in total on this set and I had quite alot of mods on every other diff than the Easy. Your mod on higher diffs were mostly focused on hitsounding and everything has been fixed now.
I think your big mod on the Easy diff helped out a lot, and I don't think I'll need more mods on it because Kin justified everything he didn't want to change on his collab made with Psionic.
So yea, I think the set is ready. Otherwise, I don't think Nevo or Chromoxx would have iconed it x)

Yales

827 posts

Joined February 2013

Yales 2018-02-10T07:38:56+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
and just one quick reply to Sotarks:
prefer to keep my pattern i want whole emphasis here on vocal+drums.
My entire point was that emphasizing both at the same time doesn't work well when it ends up in circle-spam - Emphasizing everything emphasizes nothing (pretty basic stuff), in this case because you emphasize 01:22:857 (2) so much, 01:23:024 (1,2) barely stands out at all anymore as there is almost no contrast to the previous pattern, which applies to all of those circle-chains. There aren't any notes that aren't emphasized, which makes everything less emphasized in relation to that.

I got your point and I kinda agree with it, but what you're pointing out isn't really concrete to me...

To me, the circle spam fits except for this one 01:22:690 (1,2) - indeed (and I'd bet Sotarks found it a bit weird too because he kinda tried to hide it via NCs that looks totally random on this part). BUT I understand he wanted to do something constant through all this section (which might be categorized as advanced mapping? ^^).

Although the "problem" would be that 01:22:690 (1,2) - isn't constant with 01:33:357 (8) - and I personally (and probably Bonsai too) think that 01:33:357 (8) - is fitting better because it gives way more impact on 01:33:690 (9,10) -

This is pretty minor though and on a practical perspective, I doubt a player would actually notice this 1 slider variation. And I guess it could be seen as another interpretation of the same part?

Anyways, good luck!

PS: Why would you suggest to add a polarity issue

Sotarks

3,524 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2018-02-13T19:34:12+00:00

k fix

upd

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