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Rebecca Kneubuhl & Gabriel Mann - Guide You Home

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Vergence
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Vergence

Garven wrote:

As per your request:

[General]
Remove "final song" and "dawn of the dragon" from tags.


[Easy]
01:04:695 (4,5,6) - I'm not much of a fan of stacks in easy difficulties.
01:13:695 (1,4) - Kinda overlapped here, and the 4 slider may be confusing as to when it will end. Maybe try something else here?
01:18:195 (5,1) - Another stack, if you want to change these.
01:20:445 (1) - Add a finish?
02:05:820 (1) - Feels a little soon after a spinner for an easy. Maybe end the spinner at 02:04:320 - ?
02:23:445 (4,1,2) - This doesn't look good at all. :/ Also the 4 slider felt a bit long. Maybe vary out the rhythm a bit?
02:32:820 - Such a long break. :< Would probably work better if you mapped through it and kept the break at 02:59:820 -
03:08:445 - Start kiai here
This last kiai section feels underwhelming because of the lackluster hitsounds. :/
03:36:945 - Why a break? :<
Done

[TraceTheKitten's Normal]LOL.....
Line up the tags in this difficulty.
00:48:570 (5,1) - Sticking into the HP bar, if you care about that sort of thing.
02:32:820 - Same comment from easy. Map something. :< And maybe have the later short break where easy has it.
03:15:007 (4,6) - Didn't like the overlap here.
03:48:945 (1) - Kinda soon after a spinner for a normal, though if you really want this rhythm, maybe set this closer to the center of the spinner so it's easier to realign.
Done

[Hard]
There are a lot of eighth note streams in here that I really think are a bit too tough for a hard difficulty due to the high spacing.
02:27:945 (1,1) - This is pretty tough for a hard.
03:06:570 (1) - Sticking into HP bar
03:07:320 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Take a close look at the shape these form. Is that how you really want it?Umm....what does it look like to you? O.O XD
So little hit sounding during the second kiai again. :<
03:22:788 (1) - Just start this on the red tick. Feels weird starting to early.
03:46:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Kinda boring to play for a ramping up of the last part of the song.

[Insane]
Different offset from other difficulties. Please line these up.
00:38:820 (6,1) - This spacing intended?
01:25:695 (1,2) - This jump doesn't fit right after that slow down warning.
01:56:445 - Such an awkward spot for a break. Why not have a break where your other difficulties did?
01:59:820 - Useless timing section
03:01:695 (1,2,3,4) - Why isn't this aligned compared to the other geometric shapes? Speaking of, double check those shapes. Most of them are aligned badly. Use Control + H for easy checks when everything is centered.
03:54:570 (5,1) - Eh, that spacing is kind of deceitful.
03:59:070 (1) - HP bar, blah blah
04:00:195 - The slowdown would make more sense here to me.
That ending section just feels really off without the proper timing. The kiai is in the wrong spot and the repeating slider just ends completely off. You might be better off just mapping to where Easy and Hard ended.

It's looking good though! The rhythm work is good - just a lot of ugly sliders and things that are more nit-picky than anything else, hehe. Try to concentrate on the hit sounding!
Changed

Thanks ~ :D
TraceTheKriken
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TraceTheKriken

Garven wrote:

[TraceTheKitten's Normal]
I remember in The user name origin thread Gens said that he misheared my user name just like Garven did. I'm not mad about it, It's just funny :D

Anyway. From now on all changes that are posted on my difficulty I want to check first by myself to make sure that it still keeps my mapping style and won't be screwd up in a way that I don't want.
Vergence
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Vergence

TraceTheKriken wrote:

Garven wrote:

[TraceTheKitten's Normal]
Anyway. From now on all changes that are posted on my difficulty I want to check first by myself to make sure that it still keeps my mapping style and won't be screwd up in a way that I don't want.
Ok
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Lilac
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Lilac
It's alright...I guess.

Normal is pretty good!
vivicat
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vivicat
nice map :D
bakabaka
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Joined March 2010
bakabaka
<3
saymun
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saymun
not too bad :)
Henkie
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Henkie
Nice map!
It played well, so that's already a good sign.
I also checked in editor, but I couldn't find anything big to mention :P
Oh well, hope you get it ranked soon, Star
:)
Hikato
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Hikato
[Friends]

01:20:445 - I don't like where this break starts; being in the middle of the vocals.
01:54:945 (4) - I think this sounds better without the clap on the end.

[Allies]

02:48:195 (1) - Extend the spinner to 02:50:445 and remove 02:50:445 (1).

I really don't like this diff.

[Alliance]

00:30:757 (5) - I think this sounds better as a single note rather than a slider.
02:15:195 - You could add another note here.
03:22:882 (1) - Shorten to 03:23:820.
03:32:632 (2) - Move the clap from 2 to 03:32:820 (3).
03:47:445 (3) - Pattern spacing

[Guide You Home]

I already said to you in irc that I hate the speed ups/slow downs in this.

00:35:445 (11) - Spacing.
00:41:820 (10) - I know it ruins your pattern but this repeat slider would sound better on the 9 instead of the 10.
01:02:726 (2) - Remove this.
01:19:882 (8) - Shorten by 2 repeats.
01:29:538 (10) - Remove this.
01:47:445 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Are these supposed to be symetrical patterns? If so, it needs fixing, if not, ignore this but it still looks ugly.
02:18:945 (7,1) - I don't like this but I can't offer any suggestions to it so..
02:26:632 (4) - Remove the clap.
02:35:820 (6) - Add a clap.
02:38:632 (2,3) - Remove the 2 and slide the 3 into it's place.
02:41:070 (1) - I don't think this sounds good but again no suggestions for changing it..

If you don't like any of my suggestions, please don't kudosu.
Vergence
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Vergence
Hikato, i have taken in some of your suggestion :D

Thanks
Kenezz
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Kenezz
Hey o/
Good map :)
Try to use more histounds in "Friends"

Some little IRC mod~

Starred!!
Vicho
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Vicho
good
Fabi
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Fabi
If you could submit it again would be nice!

Star
Starrodkirby86
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This isn't any mod post (Boo for ruining any suspense :c), but it's just a comment for the moment.

Anyway, as I said, your mapping style flows rather nicely. You should be rather proud of that. I'm unsure that this sort of song (The whole atmosphere and whatnot) would honestly befit something of such difficulty for [Guide You Home], but I found it pretty fun anyway, so it's not bad. xD

Love the Spyro stuff you got going. I noticed that scorebar-bg.png overlaps one of the 0's in the score number though. Are you able to fix that?

Ask me again sometime for this. In the meantime, star!
Vergence
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Vergence

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

This isn't any mod post (Boo for ruining any suspense :c), but it's just a comment for the moment.

Anyway, as I said, your mapping style flows rather nicely. You should be rather proud of that. I'm unsure that this sort of song (The whole atmosphere and whatnot) would honestly befit something of such difficulty for [Guide You Home], but I found it pretty fun anyway, so it's not bad. xD

Love the Spyro stuff you got going. I noticed that scorebar-bg.png overlaps one of the 0's in the score number though. Are you able to fix that?

Ask me again sometime for this. In the meantime, star!
Thanks for the comment :D
ZLOdeuka-
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ZLOdeuka-
wow +82... star~
TouhouNerd
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dont work orz
Derekku
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Derekku
Not exactly a mod, but some suggestions.

Easy (Friends): A bit too fast-paced in my mind for an easy. The slider velocity is the same as Normal (Allies), so how about lowering it to say... 0.9? Also, the distance spacing is a bit high, so I'd like to see notes spaced closer than they are right now. Be advised that distance spacing is partially dependent on slider velocity, so you'll actually need to raise the distance snap (you'll see once you change the SV). Also, avoid using short/kick sliders like 01:17:070 (4) in easy difficulties. The multiple repeats can be very confusing for newer players.

Normal (Allies): A bit linear in spots, but that's not a bad thing. Many of the spinners are wayyyy too long though (and remind me of airman spinners). 03:51:195 (4) is a nice rainbow slider (long slider that goes across the screen during kiai time, usually with a repeat or two), but could be nazi'd with the nodes to make it 100% symmetrical. ;p

Hard (Alliance): I think it's been mentioned many times, but the spacing is a bit strange in here. You have lots of beats that are a white tick apart with spacing that's a bit too easy for a Hard, but then you have 1/2 (eighth) notes with waaaaaay too large of spacing that would belong in an Insane. Also, the slider speed change from 1x to 0.5x at 02:50:070 (2,1) is a bit extreme. How about changing the 0.5x to say... 0.75x?

Insane (Guide You Home): This difficulty flows much better than the last, especially since the difficulty level fits better. I really don't see the need for the speed warnings (especially since you used 1.5x instead of 2x), but the choruses are a bit more extreme than they need to be, so perhaps toning them down a little would help. And again, perhaps try using 0.75x instead of 0.5x speed.

I see a lot of potential in this mapset, so this definitely gets my star as well. I wish you good luck and I hope to have the chance to take another look at this in the future!

PS: I really like the bg used in the guest diff, so I'd like to see it used it more difficulties (but that's up to you ;p).
Vergence
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Vergence
Thank Derekku :3

Roddie
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Roddie
IRC modding on three of DragonSparta's difficulties.

Now here is my mod for TraceTheKriken's difficulty
  1. 02:44:820 (4)-Fix the spacing on this.
Hm.. Nicely done. Just remember to recalculate the slider lengths next time. ;)

Good luck getting this ranked.

Star.
Vergence
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Vergence
Thanks DJ
Orgol
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Orgol
Star~

Good luck :P
nimi
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nimi
Hmm, nice mapset. Cool song as well xD
Anyways, just one little thing here. In Guide You Home diff, the speedup warning is at 02:02:538. After it, there's a spinner. Why don't you change the time that the warning appears to 02:05:632 or something like that? Would be better imo, dunno xD
Starr'd
Mei_coN
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Mei_coN
star~ 8-)
Lissette
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Lissette
Offset must be the same in all difficulties

Insane
01:15:757 (6) - remove and place a single note here 01:15:945 - sounds better imo
01:19:882 (8) - remove 3 repeat and place note here 01:20:257 - kinda thought was like this while playing it
01:24:945 to 01:29:445 - use soft sample set for this section
01:38:632 (7) - move half beat earlier, and longer half beat
01:55:320 (8) - new combo?
02:09:195 (7) - same as 01:19:882 (8)
02:39:195 (1) - inspected jump @.@
02:47:445 (5) - those repeats I ALWAYS think ends earlier T.T
03:08:820 - why this part has soft sample sets and other like this have normal? try to be consistence ><
03:32:445 (4,5,6) - why the triplet? how about removing 5 ^^ ?
about changing sample sets from normal to soft or vice verse the inherited sections must be at least 1/4 before the note, no on top of a note ^^

Hard
01:44:070 (1) - move start of spinner half beat later and add note here
03:06:570 (1) - move one beat earlier and add repeat
03:08:820 - same as Insane

TraceTheKriken's Normal
01:16:507 (1,2) - confusing @.@, those notes at 1/2 can be really confusing to normal, imo (just noticed there are more, i wont mention all)

Star!
Vergence
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Vergence

Lissette wrote:

Offset must be the same in all difficulties

Insane
01:15:757 (6) - remove and place a single note here 01:15:945 - sounds better imo
01:19:882 (8) - remove 3 repeat and place note here 01:20:257 - kinda thought was like this while playing it
01:24:945 to 01:29:445 - use soft sample set for this section
01:38:632 (7) - move half beat earlier, and longer half beat
01:55:320 (8) - new combo?
02:09:195 (7) - same as 01:19:882 (8)
02:39:195 (1) - inspected jump @.@
02:47:445 (5) - those repeats I ALWAYS think ends earlier T.T
03:08:820 - why this part has soft sample sets and other like this have normal? try to be consistence ><
03:32:445 (4,5,6) - why the triplet? how about removing 5 ^^ ?
about changing sample sets from normal to soft or vice verse the inherited sections must be at least 1/4 before the note, no on top of a note ^^

Done

Hard
01:44:070 (1) - move start of spinner half beat later and add note here
03:06:570 (1) - move one beat earlier and add repeat
03:08:820 - same as Insane
Done
TraceTheKriken's Normal
01:16:507 (1,2) - confusing @.@, those notes at 1/2 can be really confusing to normal, imo (just noticed there are more, i wont mention all)
Done
Star!
Bless
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Bless
Star~
Beuchi
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Beuchi
Though Insane still feels a bit messy for me, this is indeed showing a nice improvement :3

*star*! Good luck <3

EDIT: Skin~
Download: Skin Fix.rar
DJPop
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I think I can't mod this, mostly are spacing mods to make the map looks better :o

~Guide You Home~
01:09:007 (1,2) - move closer
01:14:070 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:14:257 (4) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
01:15:007 (2,3) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:15:382 (4) - move up 1 grid (Lv3)
01:24:007 (5) - move left 2 grids (Lv3)
01:24:382 (7,8) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
01:24:757 (9) - move left & down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:24:945 (10) - move right & up 1 grid (Lv3)
01:34:882 (1,2,3) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:47:820 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:48:007 (4) - move left & down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:48:757 (2,3,4) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:51:007 (2) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:51:195 (3) - move up 3 grids & right 2 grids (Lv3)
01:51:382 (4,5,6) - move up 2 grids & right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:07:320 (5) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:18:007 (2) - move down 2 grids & right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:18:757 (6) - move down 2 grids & left 1 grid (Lv3)
02:18:945 (7) - move down 1 grid & right 2 grids (Lv3)
02:55:320 (1) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
02:56:445 (2,4,5,6) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
04:03:570 (2) - end on white tick
Vergence
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Vergence

DJPop wrote:

I think I can't mod this, mostly are spacing mods to make the map looks better :o

~Guide You Home~
01:09:007 (1,2) - move closer
01:14:070 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:14:257 (4) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
01:15:007 (2,3) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:15:382 (4) - move up 1 grid (Lv3)
01:24:007 (5) - move left 2 grids (Lv3)
01:24:382 (7,8) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
01:24:757 (9) - move left & down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:24:945 (10) - move right & up 1 grid (Lv3)
01:34:882 (1,2,3) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:47:820 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:48:007 (4) - move left & down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:48:757 (2,3,4) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:51:007 (2) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:51:195 (3) - move up 3 grids & right 2 grids (Lv3)
01:51:382 (4,5,6) - move up 2 grids & right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:07:320 (5) - move up & right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:18:007 (2) - move down 2 grids & right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:18:757 (6) - move down 2 grids & left 1 grid (Lv3)
02:18:945 (7) - move down 1 grid & right 2 grids (Lv3)
02:55:320 (1) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
02:56:445 (2,4,5,6) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
04:03:570 (2) - end on white tick
Fixed~
Thanks
Soaprman
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Soaprman
General
Your hitsound volume levels are pretty inconsistent between difficulties. Make them all the same (around 30% is good) and up the volume a bit during the kiai sections. You did a good job of this with Guide You Home... consider using that one as a model.

Guide You Home
01:15:757 (6) - Remove this maybe? I think it sounds slightly better without it.

03:03:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - this looks kind of sloppy. Make it symmetric. Optionally, make the spacing between each one the same.

Overall, solid mapset. All it really needs is a bit of polish and it's good to go... look for places where you can pretty the map up.

Merry Christmas~
M a D o K a_old
M a D o K a_old
last level is too hard to perfectly complete!
warning is impressive. although this difficulty, well-made map.
Lyner
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Lyner
nice one :)
Astom
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Astom
:3

PD: someone need denied the kudosu of this post please xD
PD2: Dragon BAKA
rust45
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rust45
Christmas Mod on it's way.

[Allies]
03:01:695 (1) - I'm having Airman flashbacks here. In other words, I think the spinner is a tad long and unneeded.

[Guide You Home]
No breaks in a 4 minute song make rust45 not happy.
01:26:445 (1) - This feels like it was added in just so there couldn't be a break here.
01:39:570 (1,2,3) - This anti-jump doesn't really make sense to me.

Not that bad at all. Have a star. If you want a bubble, ask me when you're done with my mod.
Weez
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Weez
Nothing I can do here
star and good luck on this, get it ranked before the year is over!!!! :U
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Recheck

General
IMO 02:32:445 -> 02:50:445 should be Normal sampleset
02:50:445 -> 02:59:445 should be soft.

TraceTheKriken's Allies
Make the first two kiai sections louder.
02:05:445 (x) - Add note here for consistency
02:59:820 -> 03:06:195 - Add a break here

Alliance
03:26:445 (1) - Remove new combo.

Guide You Home
Copy the breaks on [Alliance]
02:00:945 (3) - This is covering the warning.
02:50:445 (1) - Remove new combo.
03:54:945 (1) - Don't place this that close. It's confusingly close to (5).
04:12:007 (x) - Why is there a kiai here >.>

Edit: Some more IRC stuff and bubbled.
Last edited by NoHitter , edited 2 times in total.
Vergence
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Vergence
Thanks NoHItter and Rust45 :) :) :) :)
Glass
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Glass
Oh yeah I totally forgot to star this map last time after testing it, here it is ;)
Vergence
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Vergence
Any BATs who think this is worth being ranked, please rank it before 1st of January :o
Card N'FoRcE
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Card N'FoRcE
I can't import the beatmap (i tried downloading with two different propgrams)

Can you try a Full Submission please?

EDIT: it seems like i'm the only one who can't get this map to work.
Sorry for bothering you by asking to full submit this again, i don't know why this is happening.
It seems that i won't be able to mod it... ;_;

Bubble repair
Derekku
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Derekku
A bubble already? owo Time for a full mod!

[General]
*Wowww that's a long title: http://puu.sh/Ceh Perhaps get rid of "(I Would Die For You)" and put that in tags instead? (minus the parenthesis, of course)
*I don't think that "Spyro" is needed in tags since it's already in the source.
*Source should be capitalized "Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon". Also, since it's actually "The Legend of Spyro", perhaps add "legend" to tags?
*Scorebar-colour isn't centered on scorebar-background correctly: http://puu.sh/Ceu
*You only need one scorebar-colour if it's not an animated one. So, remove three of them and keep one as just "scorebar-colour" without a number on the end.
*Some of the numbers have white edges around the top/bottom, but it's not that big a deal.
*Expected all of the difficulties to end at the same place that "Guide You Home" does.

[Friends]
*How about lowering Drain/OD/AR one tick each?
*Slider velocity is much better than last time.
*Distance spacing is still a bit higher than I'd expect for an Easy. It looks like you used ~1.07, but I'd like to see something like 0.9 here. Plus, it looks like the next diff has nearly the same distance spacing, thus this one should have closer spacing than it.
01:00:570 (1,2,3,4,1) - Accelerated spacing on an Easy? oxo
01:11:445 (5) - I really recommend avoiding short/repeating sliders like these on Easy diffs. They can be pretty confusing.
01:38:070 (4) - Even worse since it repeats on the red tick instead of the white.
01:54:945 (4) - This one isn't as bad with only two repeats, though, I suppose.
02:05:445 - I always think it's awkward to have kiai without a note to accompany it. How about adding a note here?
02:32:632 - Raise the volume of this section. It's much too quiet. =x
02:40:320 (2,3) - Even though it's the same rhythm as the previous slider, it's still a bit confusing. I'd make this a slider as well.
02:54:195 (2) - End isn't snapped right.
03:08:445 - Kiai would look better starting here (and with a note, of course).

[TraceTheKriken's Allies]
*How about lowering Drain/OD/AR one tick each?
01:06:570 (8) - The clap on the end of this sounds really awkward. How about a finish instead?
02:01:320 (1) - Expected this to be moved back to the red tick and lengthened.
02:14:070 (8) - same finish suggestion
02:25:882 (1) - A bit too long for a spinner, imo. Also, why does kiai end before the spinner does? (And where is the hitsound?)
02:39:195 (1) - expected a finish
02:50:820 (1) - Too far from the end of the spinner. If the note was in the center (or close to it) then it would be much better.
03:06:757 (1,2,1) - A bit too confusing for a normal. If you want to keep the repeating slider, though, you could try removing the two single notes and extend the slider.
03:17:070 (8) - finish the end?
03:23:820 (1,2) - spacing? 2 is too close to 1
03:35:820 (2) - not snapped right
03:36:945 (3) - looks like this one isn't either
03:38:445 (3) - ^

03:51:195 (4) - Decided to make this symmetrical for you. In the editor, go to File->Open .osu in notepad. Hit ctrl-f and find "230445" (that's the ms time for note 2). Delete the following three lines:
408,120,230445,1,0
408,120,230820,1,0
480,160,231195,2,0,B|496:336|344:376|200:384|8:368|40:168|40:168,2,660
and replace them with the following three:
408,128,230445,1,0
408,128,230820,1,0
480,176,231195,2,0,B|460:376|256:440|52:376|32:176,2,660
Then save, close the notepad file, and reopen your difficulty to see the changes. (2) and (3) were up too high and I completely remade (4).

03:56:820 (2,3,4) - (nazi) spacing is a bit inconsistent between these
04:00:288 (1) - move to the red tick and shorten

[Alliance]
*Lower difficulty settings than the last map? Raise drain 2 ticks, AR 1 tick, and OD 1 tick (that should be a bit better, so easy is 2/2/2, normal is 4/4/4, hard is 5/6/5, and insane is 7/7/7).
00:46:695 (5) - Both of the repeats are partially covered by the hitbursts (100/300s) from the previous notes. Not unrankable, but slightly hidden/confusing.
02:12:945 (4,5,6,7,8) - A bit unexpected/confusing
02:27:945 (1) - Kinda long, and also 02:32:632 (1) being only half a beat after the end of the spinner is too difficult.
02:32:632 - Raise the volume of this section. It's much too quiet. =x
02:55:320 (1,2) - spacing? (2) looks like it's only half a beat away instead of a whole white tick.
03:14:445 (7,8,9,10,1) - Clustered and hard to read.
03:24:195 (1) - Again, try to avoid notes only half a beat after a spinner. It's fine on Insane, but not really expected in here.
03:33:570 (1) - move back to the red tick and extend.
03:51:007 (1) - move to the white tick and shorten.
03:53:445 - Why are these notes soft instead of normal?
*Overall, the spacing is a bit too large for a "Hard", but it would be a bit harsh to ask you to re-distance the entire map at this stage...

[Guide You Home]
*Better than the last difficulty, at least.
00:38:820 (6,1,2) - Spacing? 1 is much too close to 6.
01:30:570 - This section is a bit too quiet.
04:01:320 - Much too quiet in here
04:09:195 (1) - Sounds kinda awkward since the bpm is slowing down and the sliderticks are really off. Maybe replace this with a spinner?
04:12:195 (1) - Expected this to be much longer, maybe to 04:15:945?

Not bad for your first map, but this could still use quite a bit of improvement. However, I'm not sure how much you'll be able to improve this since you'll be gone once January comes. Hopefuly this mod helps, though!
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Derekku wrote:

A bubble already? owo Time for a full mod!

[General]
*Wowww that's a long title: http://puu.sh/Ceh Perhaps get rid of "(I Would Die For You)" and put that in tags instead? (minus the parenthesis, of course)
*I don't think that "Spyro" is needed in tags since it's already in the source.
*Source should be capitalized "Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon". Also, since it's actually "The Legend of Spyro", perhaps add "legend" to tags?
*Scorebar-colour isn't centered on scorebar-background correctly: http://puu.sh/Ceu
*You only need one scorebar-colour if it's not an animated one. So, remove three of them and keep one as just "scorebar-colour" without a number on the end.
*Some of the numbers have white edges around the top/bottom, but it's not that big a deal.
*Expected all of the difficulties to end at the same place that "Guide You Home" does.

[Friends]
*How about lowering Drain/OD/AR one tick each?
*Slider velocity is much better than last time.
*Distance spacing is still a bit higher than I'd expect for an Easy. It looks like you used ~1.07, but I'd like to see something like 0.9 here. Plus, it looks like the next diff has nearly the same distance spacing, thus this one should have closer spacing than it.
01:00:570 (1,2,3,4,1) - Accelerated spacing on an Easy? oxo
01:11:445 (5) - I really recommend avoiding short/repeating sliders like these on Easy diffs. They can be pretty confusing.
01:38:070 (4) - Even worse since it repeats on the red tick instead of the white.
01:54:945 (4) - This one isn't as bad with only two repeats, though, I suppose.
02:05:445 - I always think it's awkward to have kiai without a note to accompany it. How about adding a note here?
02:32:632 - Raise the volume of this section. It's much too quiet. =x
02:40:320 (2,3) - Even though it's the same rhythm as the previous slider, it's still a bit confusing. I'd make this a slider as well.
02:54:195 (2) - End isn't snapped right.
03:08:445 - Kiai would look better starting here (and with a note, of course).

[TraceTheKriken's Allies]
*How about lowering Drain/OD/AR one tick each?
01:06:570 (8) - The clap on the end of this sounds really awkward. How about a finish instead?
02:01:320 (1) - Expected this to be moved back to the red tick and lengthened.
02:14:070 (8) - same finish suggestion
02:25:882 (1) - A bit too long for a spinner, imo. Also, why does kiai end before the spinner does? (And where is the hitsound?)
02:39:195 (1) - expected a finish
02:50:820 (1) - Too far from the end of the spinner. If the note was in the center (or close to it) then it would be much better.
03:06:757 (1,2,1) - A bit too confusing for a normal. If you want to keep the repeating slider, though, you could try removing the two single notes and extend the slider.
03:17:070 (8) - finish the end?
03:23:820 (1,2) - spacing? 2 is too close to 1
03:35:820 (2) - not snapped right
03:36:945 (3) - looks like this one isn't either
03:38:445 (3) - ^

03:51:195 (4) - Decided to make this symmetrical for you. In the editor, go to File->Open .osu in notepad. Hit ctrl-f and find "230445" (that's the ms time for note 2). Delete the following three lines:
408,120,230445,1,0
408,120,230820,1,0
480,160,231195,2,0,B|496:336|344:376|200:384|8:368|40:168|40:168,2,660
and replace them with the following three:
408,128,230445,1,0
408,128,230820,1,0
480,176,231195,2,0,B|460:376|256:440|52:376|32:176,2,660
Then save, close the notepad file, and reopen your difficulty to see the changes. (2) and (3) were up too high and I completely remade (4).

03:56:820 (2,3,4) - (nazi) spacing is a bit inconsistent between these
04:00:288 (1) - move to the red tick and shorten

[Alliance]
*Lower difficulty settings than the last map? Raise drain 2 ticks, AR 1 tick, and OD 1 tick (that should be a bit better, so easy is 2/2/2, normal is 4/4/4, hard is 5/6/5, and insane is 7/7/7).
00:46:695 (5) - Both of the repeats are partially covered by the hitbursts (100/300s) from the previous notes. Not unrankable, but slightly hidden/confusing.
02:12:945 (4,5,6,7,8) - A bit unexpected/confusing
02:27:945 (1) - Kinda long, and also 02:32:632 (1) being only half a beat after the end of the spinner is too difficult.
02:32:632 - Raise the volume of this section. It's much too quiet. =x
02:55:320 (1,2) - spacing? (2) looks like it's only half a beat away instead of a whole white tick.
03:14:445 (7,8,9,10,1) - Clustered and hard to read.
03:24:195 (1) - Again, try to avoid notes only half a beat after a spinner. It's fine on Insane, but not really expected in here.
03:33:570 (1) - move back to the red tick and extend.
03:51:007 (1) - move to the white tick and shorten.
03:53:445 - Why are these notes soft instead of normal?
*Overall, the spacing is a bit too large for a "Hard", but it would be a bit harsh to ask you to re-distance the entire map at this stage...

[Guide You Home]
*Better than the last difficulty, at least.
00:38:820 (6,1,2) - Spacing? 1 is much too close to 6.
01:30:570 - This section is a bit too quiet.
04:01:320 - Much too quiet in here
04:09:195 (1) - Sounds kinda awkward since the bpm is slowing down and the sliderticks are really off. Maybe replace this with a spinner?
04:12:195 (1) - Expected this to be much longer, maybe to 04:15:945?

Not bad for your first map, but this could still use quite a bit of improvement. However, I'm not sure how much you'll be able to improve this since you'll be gone once January comes. Hopefuly this mod helps, though!
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[General]
*Even with the title shortened, it looks like the title/artist/source is still a bit long: http://puu.sh/Czo I hate to ask, but would you mind moving the source to tags?
*Also, you forgot to add "i would die for you" to tags, so if you decide to move the source as well, your tags should be "legend spyro dawn of the dragon i would die for you cynder malefor tracethekriken"
*I'll ask Beuchi about the skin.
*For all difficulties, perhaps end kiai at 03:26:351 and start a new section at 03:26:445? I feel like that last chorus is a bit more powerful and warrants an extra fountain.

[Friends]
*Much better spacing now, although I have a few nazi adjustments to some notes that look noticeably off
00:42:195 (3) - move this up a grid to match 00:44:445 (2,3).
00:50:070 (2,3) - to the right one grid
01:40:320 (3) - up
02:05:445 - I'd still like to see a note here. :s
02:09:945 (3) - up to get rid of the big gap between 3 and 1
02:16:695 (2) - left and up
02:26:070 (1) - right
02:51:945 (2,1) - a bit too close to each other
02:54:195 (2,1) - and then these are a bit too far apart o3o
02:54:195 (2) - Also, the end of this still isn't snapped right. Make sure to fix this one.
02:55:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - I feel like these should be spaced a bit closer since it's a quiet section
03:08:445 - Again, I suggest adding a note and start kiai here (since kiai should be the same on all of your difficulties).
03:44:445 (1) - down and right a few grids to get rid of the gap between 1 and 2
03:48:570 (5) - left a few grids

[TraceTheKriken's Allies]
00:53:070 (5) - (nazi) a bit close to 4, but far from the next combo (1). Maybe try something like this?: http://puu.sh/CAh
01:45:570 (2,3,4,5) - spacing is a bit confusing. Try spacing 2/3/4 closer together so that it's more apparent that 5 is more than a beat away.
01:55:132 (2) - (nazi) left a grid to make the spacing consistent
02:38:445 (6,7,8) - and move this stack down to prevent this: http://puu.sh/CAo
02:50:820 (1) - Again, much too far from the center. Try changing the whole pattern around so that 1 can be in the center.
03:16:695 (7) - down a grid
03:36:945 (3) - oops, must've missed this one. Clap -> Finish please ;p

[Alliance]
*I'd like to see more finishes in the choruses like the last two diffs have on "for you".
01:43:882 (1) - expected this on the white tick (and shortened)
01:50:820 (2) - a bit high up (goes under the score numbers)
02:59:070 (1) - I'd move this to the right a bit since it's kinda close to the last note

[Guide You Home]
*Same finish suggestion for the choruses.
03:08:445 - add a note here (and start kiai here) to be consistent with the other diffs
04:09:195 (1) - still sounds weird, so I'll add a new uninherited section here in my timing mod below.

[Timing]
On "Guide You Home", change the last inherited section on the slider to an uninherited one by unchecking this: http://puu.sh/CAO Then, click on the box for BPM and change it to 140. Make the slider a little bit longer so that it snapes to the white ticks properly, and then move/shorten/lengthen the spinner. Finally, add that same uninherited section to the other there difficulties (at 249,195ms) to keep things consistent.
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Derekku wrote:

*I'll ask Beuchi about the skin.
Boom~

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A few irc fixes, aaaaaaaand here you go! Nice job~
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Derekku wrote:

A few irc fixes, aaaaaaaand here you go! Nice job~
Guess I can avoid nazi mod~ :P
Actually I might have to point some stuff out if I have time later
Derekku
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James2250 wrote:

Derekku wrote:

A few irc fixes, aaaaaaaand here you go! Nice job~
Guess I can avoid nazi mod~ :P
Actually I might have to point some stuff out if I have time later
I could've nazi'd it more, but only went with blatantly obvious spacing inconsistencies instead. It's a first-time map, so we can't expect perfection. :V
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Derekku wrote:

A few irc fixes, aaaaaaaand here you go! Nice job~
Derekkyu!!
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[Friends]

04:09:195 (x) - This offset isn't needed at all on this difficulty since it's unused. Remove it.

[TraceTheKriken's Allies]

00:16:320 (x) - This green line isn't needed at all since you have the offset already for the volume. Oh and increase the volume a bit on this section, it's too low right now.
04:09:195 (x) - Same as Friends.

[Alliance]

00:23:070 (1) ~ 00:55:320 (3) - Volume on this section is way too low! Increase it.
02:50:070 (2) ~ 03:08:257 (4) - ^
04:09:195 (x) - Same as Friends.

[Guide You Home]

00:23:070 (1) ~ 00:54:570 (8) - Volume on this section is way too low! Increase it.
02:50:445 (4) ~ 02:59:445 (6) - ^
04:01:320 (3) ~ 04:08:070 (2) - ^
04:09:195 (1) - ^

Have to pop, sorry.
Derekku
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The uninherited section is for an actual timing change which will affect the main menu. Thus, it should be the same on all difficulties.
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Don't remove the 2nd offset from any difficulty then, but fix the other things I've pointed out ;)
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osuplayer111 wrote:

[Friends]

04:09:195 (x) - This offset isn't needed at all on this difficulty since it's unused. Remove it.

[TraceTheKriken's Allies]

00:16:320 (x) - This green line isn't needed at all since you have the offset already for the volume. Oh and increase the volume a bit on this section, it's too low right now.
04:09:195 (x) - Same as Friends.

[Alliance]

00:23:070 (1) ~ 00:55:320 (3) - Volume on this section is way too low! Increase it.
02:50:070 (2) ~ 03:08:257 (4) - ^
04:09:195 (x) - Same as Friends.

[Guide You Home]

00:23:070 (1) ~ 00:54:570 (8) - Volume on this section is way too low! Increase it.
02:50:445 (4) ~ 02:59:445 (6) - ^
04:01:320 (3) ~ 04:08:070 (2) - ^
04:09:195 (1) - ^

Have to pop, sorry.
Fixed
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After some more IRC Modding...

Re-Bubbled~
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I'm so happy :cry: my aunt, dead 1 year ago, loved this song and today, 31 december 2010, it's ranked :cry: THANK YOU ALL, THANK YOU !!!
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OH MY GOD

OH MY GOD

Why didn't I see this before?

FFFFFFFFFFF

...yeah the squealing should be evidence that I'm a fan of the LoS series

But I forgot all about this song,

then looking at the ranked maps and saw the source: Legend of Spyro...

...I suddenly remembered everything. God.
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Ty m8 :,) spyro4ever no is ded... NO IS DED..
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