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Stop blaming Russian problems on Americans. You guys are the ones causing us the headache, not the other way around smh /s
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>OTabraker wrote:
Stop blaming Russian problems on Americans. You guys are the ones causing us the headache, not the other way around smh /s
btw wtf is this sh- ?
that was clearly accidental. i wrote that while his internet cut off for a sec, without knowing that the internet actually cut off. i just gave an example how companies without limitations could act. aka, EA without limits as ISP would be horrible.abraker wrote:
Stop blaming Russian problems on Americans. You guys are the ones causing us the headache, not the other way around smh /s
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nice jokeKupcaH wrote:
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Net Neutrality is a band aid problem. How about we tackle the underlying problem of the government-facilitated monopoly of the ISP industry, rather than try to use more regulations to fix a problem that was caused by government interference in the market in the first place.
What are you suggesting?B1rd wrote:
How about we tackle the underlying problem of the government-facilitated monopoly of the ISP industry
god yes I love it when birb elaborates on anything related to economics
Break up comcast and get rid of zoning laws and other regulations inhibiting ISPs from laying down new broadband infrastructure, which creates an insurmountable barrier of entry for new ISPs trying to enter the market.abraker wrote:
What are you suggesting?B1rd wrote:
How about we tackle the underlying problem of the government-facilitated monopoly of the ISP industry
ok this is reasonable. So what will prevent another company like comcast from popping up in the future? AT&T, for instance, has been pulling itself together ever since it has been broken up in 1982 and will get to its previous state sooner or later.B1rd wrote:
Break up comcast and get rid of zoning laws and other regulations inhibiting ISPs from laying down new broadband infrastructure, which creates an insurmountable barrier of entry for new ISPs trying to enter the market.
save net neutrality
That's my jamDaddyCoolVipper wrote:
god yes I love it when birb elaborates on anything related to economics
I don't care if one company has market dominance at any one time, I care how and why they have market dominance. If they have it by cosying up to government bureaucrats, then they've got to go. But these oil companies, it's silly breaking them up all the time if they're just going to form back up again, obviously the laws of economies of scale are speaking and indicate that in that particular market larger business entities are more efficient.abraker wrote:
ok this is reasonable. So what will prevent another company like comcast from popping up in the future? AT&T, for instance, has been pulling itself together ever since it has been broken up in 1982 and will get to its previous state sooner or later.B1rd wrote:
Break up comcast and get rid of zoning laws and other regulations inhibiting ISPs from laying down new broadband infrastructure, which creates an insurmountable barrier of entry for new ISPs trying to enter the market.
Yet you need laws prohibiting them using government bureaucrats, right? Or do you have a different method in mind?B1rd wrote:
I don't care if one company has market dominance at any one time, I care how and why they have market dominance. If they have it by cosying up to government bureaucrats, then they've got to go.
we're fucked
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Move somewhere else. I heard all of you guys are going to Canada.ColdTooth wrote:
we're fucked
still waiting for b1rd's answer
Well you said something really odd.abraker wrote:
still waiting for b1rd's answer
The reason I was talking about wasn't about the big ISP using local governments, though I bet that favouritism of that kind definitely is a factor, what I was talking about was the local governments creating such a large barrier of entry, with right of way laws, regulations and such things, that double the cost of building new broadband infrastructure if it's possible at all. This basically makes competition impossible and favors the big ISPs already established in one area. Even Google only built the Google fibre in areas where the local government worked with them and expedited the process and waived a lot of the right of way laws. You can imagine that if massive multinationals like Google could only build in areas with the blessing of the local administration, how difficult it would be for small startups to get a foothold in a market and compete with the established ISPs in areas where they weren't wanted.
Ok, I see. Now you say what can be done here:B1rd wrote:
the local governments creating such a large barrier of entry, with right of way laws, regulations and such things, that double the cost of building new broadband infrastructure if it's possible at all.
Which is good, but you also realize what lead to this:B1rd wrote:
Break up comcast and get rid of zoning laws and other regulations inhibiting ISPs from laying down new broadband infrastructure, which creates an insurmountable barrier of entry for new ISPs trying to enter the market.
So while you can take away laws the states set up for ISPs to benefit from, what can you do to be sure ISPs will not get the upper hand again and cause states to create large barrier of entry, with right of way laws, regulations and such things in far future?B1rd wrote:
If they have it by cosying up to government bureaucrats, then they've got to go.