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Lite Show Magic - TRICKL4SH 220 [Taiko]

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MMzz

Nifty wrote:

Lookin at TK's Inner.

Why this map gotta feel like it's trying specifically NOT follow the song. When you avoid mapping the actual melody like 00:46:412 - / 00:54:866 - / 01:25:821 - but map things that aren't even close to being there like 00:50:844 (56) - the map becomes confusing and frustrating to players. I understand "improv life br0" but this just isn't needed at all, especially when you have difficulties that make sense 100% of the time literally right above your diff.
In the case of this difficulty, in the sections you point out, the melody is represented fairly. Not exactly to the point, but fairly. The only note not represented in the melody is here 00:46:412 (or in between this gap in every other pattern you point out, they are all structurally the same.) Nothing from the actual rhythm of the song (snares, kicks) is left out, leaving TKS with the opportunity to fill in gaps creatively. He also does this with structure and consistency throughout the whole map in each section you mentioned. You have the right to say it doesn't play well, but your approach is not helping.
Backfire
r u guys really wantting to throw down
Nifty

MMzz wrote:

Nothing from the actual rhythm of the song (snares, kicks) is left out, leaving TKS with the opportunity to fill in gaps creatively.
It's not hard to not map the actual rhythm when you only have 4 1/4 gaps in a 2 bar phrase of the song. Filling in almost every single gap may be creative, but it's creative overmapping.
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Monstrata

Backfire wrote:

r u guys really wantting to throw down
No please, leave us alone Bobby Flay :(
tatatat
Why are you just speedranking this? To say you mapped taiko? To prove a point? You don't care about the taiko mapping/modding community at all. You do absolutely nothing to contribute to the community. I trust in your dedication to osu! standard, but why are you treating your important position in the community as a joke? You're supposed to be a person that newer mappers and modders can come to for advice, not a bubble buddy for your friends to rank their maps. Come on. What are you doing. Why are you still a taiko BN? Why are you a CTB BN? Is it just so that you can push multi-mode maps for ranked? Good I guess? Good for the "mini-game" gamemodes to get some exposure, but your only outlet for pushing multimode maps is through osu! standard. Please dedicate more effort to bettering the taiko modding community or just leave, Monstrata.
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Monstrata

tatatat wrote:

Why are you just speedranking this? To say you mapped taiko? To prove a point? You don't care about the taiko mapping/modding community at all. You do absolutely nothing to contribute to the community. I trust in your dedication to osu! standard, but why are you treating your important position in the community as a joke? You're supposed to be a person that newer mappers and modders can come to for advice, not a bubble buddy for your friends to rank their maps. Come on. What are you doing. Why are you still a taiko BN? Why are you a CTB BN? Is it just so that you can push multi-mode maps for ranked? Good I guess? Good for the "mini-game" gamemodes to get some exposure, but your only outlet for pushing multimode maps is through osu! standard. Please dedicate more effort to bettering the taiko modding community or just leave, Monstrata.
Please refer to the Code of Conduct.

Throwing insults at a mapper is absolutely uncalled for and is a detriment to the taiko modding community.
tatatat

Monstrata wrote:

tatatat wrote:

Why are you just speedranking your garbage? To say you mapped taiko? To prove a point? You're only going to get more shit for this. You get so much shit because you don't care about the taiko mapping/modding community at all. You're just a taiko BN to bubble your friend's maps. You do absolutely nothing to contribute to the community. I trust in your dedication to osu! standard, but why are you treating your important position in the community as a joke? You're supposed to be a person that newer mappers and modders can come to for advice, not a bubble buddy for your friends to rank their maps. Come on. What are you doing. Why are you still a taiko BN? Why are you a CTB BN? Is it just so that you can push multi-mode maps for ranked? Good I guess? Good for the "mini-game" gamemodes to get some exposure, but your only outlet for pushing multimode maps is through osu! standard. Please dedicate more effort to bettering the taiko modding community or just leave, Monstrata.
Please refer to the Code of Conduct.

Throwing insults at a mapper is absolutely uncalled for and is a detriment to the taiko modding community.
I'm not insulting you. I'm asking you to dedicate more effort to better the community. Care about your job, or nobody is ever going to take you seriously. I'm done here. If I can't get you to understand why people are mad at you, and why you should invest more time into being a good taiko BN, probably nobody can.
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Yes sir.
Surono
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Nifty

Surono wrote:

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I will not tolerate this bullying.
OzzyOzrock
oh boy
tatatat

OzzyOzrock wrote:

oh boy
woah ozzy you got a new avatar
same grill, but SLEEK art
TKS

Nifty wrote:

Lookin at TK's Inner.

Why this map gotta feel like it's trying specifically NOT follow the song. When you avoid mapping the actual melody like 00:46:412 - / 00:54:866 - / 01:25:821 - but map things that aren't even close to being there like 00:50:844 (56) - the map becomes confusing and frustrating to players. I understand "improv life br0" but this just isn't needed at all, especially when you have difficulties that make sense 100% of the time literally right above your diff.
intentionally breaking the rhythm of a song is required skill as a taiko mapper because we cant express our personality enough unlike std mode. if i should follow the song specifically, first of all im going to remove these 2 notes 00:00:321 (2,3) - then add any notes here 00:01:003 - and many more. dont you think this is a barren discussion? im sorry if im saying too directly or impolitely but i think you must learn more about taiko mapping tbh. :?
Backfire

TKS wrote:

Nifty wrote:

Lookin at TK's Inner.

Why this map gotta feel like it's trying specifically NOT follow the song. When you avoid mapping the actual melody like 00:46:412 - / 00:54:866 - / 01:25:821 - but map things that aren't even close to being there like 00:50:844 (56) - the map becomes confusing and frustrating to players. I understand "improv life br0" but this just isn't needed at all, especially when you have difficulties that make sense 100% of the time literally right above your diff.
intentionally breaking the rhythm of a song is required skill as a taiko mapper because we cant express our personality enough unlike std mode. if i should follow the song specifically, first of all im going to remove these 2 notes 00:00:321 (2,3) - then add any notes here 00:01:003 - and many more. dont you think this is a barren discussion? im sorry if im saying too directly or impolitely but i think you must learn more about taiko mapping tbh. :?
Do I need to learn about taiko mapping? Because I believe everything he is saying is correct. Your diff needs work.
Ideal
dam dis thred is :fire:
TKS

Backfire wrote:

Do I need to learn about taiko mapping? Because I believe everything he is saying is correct. Your diff needs work.
you have enough taiko mapping skills i know. you just need to learn manners lol
btw i dont know why haters post any comment here before mod in v2 :?
Backfire

TKS wrote:

Backfire wrote:

Do I need to learn about taiko mapping? Because I believe everything he is saying is correct. Your diff needs work.
you have enough taiko mapping skills i know. you just need to learn manners lol
btw i dont know why haters post any comment here before mod in v2 :?
What are you even talking about by manners dude? You literally insulted Nifty. Don't talk to me about manners.
TKS

Backfire wrote:

What are you even talking about by manners dude? You literally insulted Nifty. Don't talk to me about manners.
oh sorry i didnt insult him, makes no sense this sentence "im sorry if im saying too directly or impolitely"?
english is so hard for me so plase talk in japanese. thanks!
Backfire
Sorry for the misunderstanding
Okoratu
how do you nerds even post here, channel suggestions towards moddingv2 because that's the modus operandi of this mapset
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hello, I think there still exist spread issues in lower difficulties especially the difficulty curve among Kantan and Futsuu.

  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 00:17:639 to 00:26:366 - The note density here is too close to Mid's Kantan and the gap with Muzukashii is rather huge as Futsuu rarely uses 1/2 patterns. I would recommend adding d at 00:19:957 - 00:20:094 - 00:24:321 - 00:24:457 - to strike a balance.
  2. 00:31:548 and 00:33:321 - you may add k and d respectively considering how extensive 1/2 patterns are used in Muzukashii.
  3. From 00:46:003 to 01:03:457 - similar problem occurs in the kiai where pattern snaps are mostly 1/1. I think you should try to use more 1/2 notes for better difficulty progression. For example, you may add d and k respectively at 00:47:639 - 00:48:048 - , then add d at 00:52:003 - 00:52:412 - and change 00:52:548 (9) - to k. The same applies to the second half of this kiai.
  4. 01:11:366 - 01:11:503 - 01:11:639 - you may want to add notes at this spot, which could be coloured as k k d to catch up the density of Muzukashii here.
  5. From 01:25:275 to 01:42:730 - same suggestions as the first kiai while extra 1/2 patterns could be featured like adding k at 01:35:775 and 01:40:139 - as Muzukashii becomes denser here as the difficulty spike.
  6. Additions like 01:48:457 - d and 01:48:730 - 01:49:003 - 01:49:139 - k would work for a more balanced spread as well since Muzukashii becomes harder all of a sudden at the end of the map.
The above are the minimal points focusing on Futsuu to improve the density transition from Kantan to Muzukashii by reducing the gap with Muzukashii. I am willing to provide additional modding to follow through if you want.
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