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Magicphoenix
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Dienstag, 31. Mai 2011 at 19:17:09

Artist: Takeshi Abo
Title: Karma
Source: Ever17: The Out of Infinity
Tags: kid galge soundtrack visual novel
BPM: 77
Filesize: 4026kb
Play Time: 02:05
Difficulties Available:
  1. Coco (1,3 stars, 122 notes)
  2. Sara (2,56 stars, 153 notes)
  3. Tsugumi (4,1 stars, 211 notes)
Download: Takeshi Abo - Karma
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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[Coco] done
[Sara] done
[Tsugumi] done


Special Thanks to :
-NatsumeRin & 100pa- (Timing)
-Takeshi Abo for composing this wonderful soundtrack LOL

12/03/10 - New mp3 , redownload
NatsumeRin
BPM:77.000 offset:505
BPM:76.400 offset:65,959
BPM:77.000 offset:69,100
BPM:70.000 offset:72,216
BPM:65.000 offset:73,070
BPM:77.000 offset:76,210
BPM:67.000 offset:121,404
BPM:64.000 offset:123,195
BPM:54.000 offset:124,132
BPM:54.000 offset:125,266 (BPM doesn't matter, this is the last note)

main by 100pa-.

edit: time to have a star.
wmfchris
[general]
-mp3 @ 320 kbps, compress it to 128~192
-Unused BG image in your folder?

[Tsugumi]
0:43:382 (5) whistle?
0:54:291 (3,4) up 1 grid, (1,6) + whistle?
1:37:248 (4) properly stack on ending of (5)
1:41:145 (2,3) delete
1:58:287 (1) imo that it too loud and too sudden, make it a bit softer

[Sara]
-soften hitsound at begining section a bit
1:46:404 (1) spacing?

[Coco]
-hitsound even louder than the other diff? soften them a bit

This worth many pink stars :3
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

wmfchris wrote:

[general]
-mp3 @ 320 kbps, compress it to 128~192 <- in work
-Unused BG image in your folder?

[Tsugumi]
0:43:382 (5) whistle?
0:54:291 (3,4) up 1 grid, (1,6) + whistle?
1:37:248 (4) properly stack on ending of (5)
1:41:145 (2,3) delete
1:58:287 (1) imo that it too loud and too sudden, make it a bit softer

[Sara]
-soften hitsound at begining section a bit
1:46:404 (1) spacing?

[Coco]
-hitsound even louder than the other diff? soften them a bit

This worth many pink stars :3 LOL thank you so much chris <33333
fix'd all =w=
yongtw123
Hi hi again~

Overall:
Timing sounds correct... (oh my this song sure is hard to time)
I am not so good with hitsounds, but I feel fine.

[Coco]
02:05:266 (1) - is it just me? I hear a tiny pop sound when the spinner begins. Investigate it lol.

[Sara]
01:33:937 (2,3) - why not just using regular slider speed?
02:01:404 (1) - space this out like 01:59:846 (2,3). (Player could've mistaken this for a red-tick note)

[Tsugumi]
The dark gray combo is not really visible.

01:07:137 (1,2) - The spacing made me thought it was a red-tick note...
01:27:119 (7) - yea, spacing should be like this
01:31:404 (1) - a jump?!


I was curious so I googled this game.
Wow.
Some psychology theorems run through my mind.
Betcha I am now interested lol

Star~
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

yongtw123 wrote:

Hi hi again~~

Overall:
Timing sounds correct... (oh my this song sure is hard to time)
I am not so good with hitsounds, but I feel fine. Yup, it's very hard to time ^^ Big thanks to NatsumeRin & 100pa- for timing me this difficult soundtrack!!!

[Coco]
02:05:266 (1) - is it just me? I hear a tiny pop sound when the spinner begins. Investigate it lol. Eh? = =

[Sara]
01:33:937 (2,3) - why not just using regular slider speed? good question, next question
02:01:404 (1) - space this out like 01:59:846 (2,3). (Player could've mistaken this for a red-tick note) ok

[Tsugumi]
The dark gray combo is not really visible. Nooooo I love this colour! D: I'll think about it *sob* *sob*

01:07:137 (1,2) - The spacing made me thought it was a red-tick note... fix'd
01:27:119 (7) - yea, spacing should be like this =w=
01:31:404 (1) - a jump?! a jump!!...got fixed


I was curious so I googled this game.
Wow.
Some psychology theorems run through my mind.
Betcha I am now interested lol yay~~

Star~
Ty very much yong >w<
Shinkuu
nice work!~
hope that will be rank soon :)

I like this song&galgame too 8-)
Fabi
Star!

I was modding this song too but I never submitted it hehe. I also used the same BG :!:

Good luck!
Colin Hou
[Coco]:
  1. 02:03:195 (5,6) - use x1.1 spacing snap at (6)?
[Sara]:
  1. 02:01:404 (1) - this end is not at the CORRECT time, you should use 1/16 to snap this, but the slider speed would be a problem, as we can't set the uninherited and inherited sections at the same place, idk how to solve this :S (to keep the things as they are now) maybe you have to double the bpm of the total song and half the slider velocity?
  2. 01:13:073 (7) - ^
[Tsugumi]:
  1. 02:03:195 (1,2,3,4,5) - decreasing the volume doesn't work well here imo
  2. 02:05:404 (1) - make this 1/8 beat ealier and longer.
  3. AR is a bit low, 7 is better imo
  4. 00:55:060 (7) - new combo?
Pro-Timing by 100pa- as always

seems good, more jumps can improve this but that's only my opinion :D and good luck with my star

PS: Harry Potter is a cute boy
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

Colin Hou wrote:

[Coco]:
  1. 02:03:195 (5,6) - use x1.1 spacing snap at (6)? oh ok


[Sara]:
  1. 02:01:404 (1) - this end is not at the CORRECT time, you should use 1/16 to snap this, but the slider speed would be a problem, as we can't set the uninherited and inherited sections at the same place, idk how to solve this :S (to keep the things as they are now) maybe you have to double the bpm of the total song and half the slider velocity? ow x.x I'll ask a MAT or else before i start some nonsense ><
  2. 01:13:073 (7) - ^^
[Tsugumi]:
  1. 02:03:195 (1,2,3,4,5) - decreasing the volume doesn't work well here imo ehehehe you're right ^^'
  2. 02:05:404 (1) - make this 1/8 beat ealier and longer. oke~
  3. AR is a bit low, 7 is better imo Hmm I don't want the AR to be that fast :S I increased to 6 AR
  4. 00:55:060 (7) - new combo? hm okay
Pro-Timing by 100pa- as always

seems good, more jumps can improve this but that's only my opinion :D I don't like them for sad instrumentals... sorry >< and good luck with my star

PS: Harry Potter is a cute boy LOL !
Thank you very much Colin :D
Sandpig
hi :D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)

sry for modding late

Tsugumi

00:11:813 (9) - I think it feels better if it's changed into 2 circles
00:25:644 (2,3) - 1/4 later and make them like this


00:54:865 (6,1) - reduce the distance?
01:08:707 - add a note?


Sara

good job with hitsound but the arrangement looks a little random

00:43:177 (3,4) - maybe seperate them, you didn't stack others like these 2.
01:45:820 (4) - new combo
01:46:404 (1) - remove nc


Coco

fine. but I still recommand you making the arrangement more pretty :>


star 8-)
narakucrimson
Hi! What do we have here? It's a pretty good map, you know :)

Btw, sorry for the delay, I've been quiet busy lately :S

[General]

Perfect timing and excelent hitsounds!


[Coco]

19:216 (7) - Maybe a new combo here?
25:839 (2) - Move this one grid down and one right
1:02:073 (7) - New combo here, and remove it from the next circle.


[Sara]

17:657 (2) - One grid left? I mean, it won't change a thing, but it would be exactly on the middle of the screen :)
41:034 (1) - Hmmm.. Maybe remove the new combo and add it to the next slider?
45:709 (1) - ^
59:540 (6) - Stack this under 5?


[Tsugumi]

Combo colours 1 and 2 seem TOO similar to me. Try changing one of them.

The map seems good to go for me :)


Really, - I have to say - well done!
You have my star, definitely.
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

Sandpig wrote:

hi :D heya~

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)

sry for modding late np!

Tsugumi

00:11:813 (9) - I think it feels better if it's changed into 2 circles same
00:25:644 (2,3) - 1/4 later and make them like this oh, cool idea^^


00:54:865 (6,1) - reduce the distance? naah, i want it that big :/
01:08:707 - add a note? uh ok


Sara

good job with hitsound but the arrangement looks a little random i will make them better if I'm in mood x.x

00:43:177 (3,4) - maybe seperate them, you didn't stack others like these 2. hm ok
01:45:820 (4) - new combo
01:46:404 (1) - remove nc fixd


Coco

fine. but I still recommand you making the arrangement more pretty :> same like [Sara] hehe ^^'


star 8-)
Thank you very much shabao[i still think that name fits better :( ] ! ~
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

narakucrimson wrote:

Hi! What do we have here? It's a pretty good map, you know :)

Btw, sorry for the delay, I've been quiet busy lately :S no prob no prob ^_^

[General]

Perfect timing and excelent hitsounds!


[Coco]

19:216 (7) - Maybe a new combo here? kay
25:839 (2) - Move this one grid down and one right naah , don't think so sry :/
1:02:073 (7) - New combo here, and remove it from the next circle. no sry ><


[Sara]

17:657 (2) - One grid left? I mean, it won't change a thing, but it would be exactly on the middle of the screen :) haha, I bet there will be a hyper-nazi-modder if i get bad luck and then I'll have to change it again anyway XD
41:034 (1) - Hmmm.. Maybe remove the new combo and add it to the next slider? nope sry :(
45:709 (1) - ^^
59:540 (6) - Stack this under 5? i don't think so >_<


[Tsugumi]

Combo colours 1 and 2 seem TOO similar to me. Try changing one of them. hmm okay !

The map seems good to go for me :)


Really, - I have to say - well done!
You have my star, definitely.
Thank you very much narakucrimson ! ~~
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

NatsumeRin wrote:

BPM:77.000 offset:505
BPM:76.400 offset:65,959
BPM:77.000 offset:69,100
BPM:70.000 offset:72,216
BPM:65.000 offset:73,070
BPM:77.000 offset:76,210
BPM:67.000 offset:121,404
BPM:64.000 offset:123,195
BPM:54.000 offset:124,132
BPM:54.000 offset:125,266 (BPM doesn't matter, this is the last note)

main by 100pa-.

edit: time to have a star.yay ! ~ Thank you Rin =D
Sakura
I'll fully mod this sometime in the future but for now just want to clarify one thing

Colin Hou wrote:

02:01:404 (1) - this end is not at the CORRECT time, you should use 1/16 to snap this, but the slider speed would be a problem, as we can't set the uninherited and inherited sections at the same place
That is usually true becuase it would mean that the mapper is using a red line to create a slider speed change harsher than what is allowed, since i forgot what build green line slider speed changes change the slider tickrate to warn the player about a change in slider speed, also red lines for slider speed changes are unrankable so right now it's perfectly fine to put a green line and red line together as long as the red line is using the valid BPM that the song has at that point, so that the green line changes the slider speed, and hence the tick rate of the slider, when i talked it with magicphoenix all we did was double the BPM on the red line back to it's correct value and added a 1/2 BPM green line, then used a 1/8 tick to end the slider and it sounds correctly now.

tl;dr: Green lines on top of red lines are valid as long as the red line is the true BPM of the song in that point, do NOT and i repeat DO NOT use them to achieve extreme slider speed changes that go over the 0.5x - > 2x limit
Otherwise sad stuff like this unrank may happen again
Tenshi-nyan
I don't know about the issue with the slider speeds, for now have this star.
Roddie
Hi

Sorry for the delay.

General:
  1. Sorry to say this to you but silencing the slider ticks are unrankable. =/ Its best to remove that. If you don't find what I say is true, ask a BAT or MAT.
  2. Its not a big deal but I would name the backgrounds some more professional.
Coco:
  1. 00:47:268 (6)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider.
Sara:
Nothing that I encountered.

Tsugumi:

Nothing I can find.

Hm... I could point out some of the spacing that you need to fix but its just a minor thing.

Sadness...... :(

Good luck getting this ranked.

Star~
Kotone
hi :)

Coco
00:37:917(1,2,3) - that not beautiful,try to move like this?
SPOILER
[attachment=0:2996d]0.png[/attachment:2996d]
00:46:489 - whistle?
01:23:222 - ^
01:34:521 - ^
01:37:248 - ^

Sora
00:29:346 - whistle?
00:58:566 - ^
01:22:054 - ^
01:32:573 - ^
01:34:521 - ^

nice map ;)
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

Roddie wrote:

Hi

Sorry for the delay.

General:
  1. Sorry to say this to you but silencing the slider ticks are unrankable. =/ Its best to remove that. If you don't find what I say is true, ask a BAT or MAT. no = =
  2. Its not a big deal but I would name the backgrounds some more professional. whaddya maen? owo
Coco:
  1. 00:47:268 (6)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider.
no sry :/

Sara:
Nothing that I encountered.

Tsugumi:

Nothing I can find.

Hm... I could point out some of the spacing that you need to fix but its just a minor thing.

Sadness...... :(

Good luck getting this ranked.

Star~
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

karenying wrote:

hi :)

Coco
00:37:917(1,2,3) - that not beautiful,try to move like this?
SPOILER
[attachment=0:9c62f]0.png[/attachment:9c62f]
00:46:489 - whistle?
01:23:222 - ^
01:34:521 - ^
01:37:248 - ^

Sora
00:29:346 - whistle?
00:58:566 - ^
01:22:054 - ^
01:32:573 - ^
01:34:521 - ^

nice map ;)
fix'd all =w=
thank you very much karenying ~~
Natteke
Saddest OST from the entire game. Have my babies star
Keksi
Keksi's Mod:

[Coco]

Keine Startsequenz?
Sonst alles gut :D

[Sara]

Same :D
00:18:631- Mach die Orangene Combo noch bis zum ende des Sliders.
02:03:854- Mach die letzten Cicles so : http://puu.sh/IQL

[Tsumugi]
Gute diff . Nichts doofes gefunden .

star~
Dark_Ai
das Lied ist schön :D
Die Map find ich auch ganz gut

Star~ :D
dNextGen
Aqua
Nice Work :3
Star ~
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

dNextGen wrote:

Jizz'd in my pantsu =w=
Darkmirror35
Super map ;)
Nyan-Zapo
Here is my star :P
Yomeiro
Star~ :3
TTTTTTTTTTTT
Coco

nice~

00:12:982(4) - whistle
00:14:540(3) - remove whistle
00:40:644(2) - move 1 grid left or 2 grid left(lv3)
01:58:287(8) - symmetric with (7)-01:56:729-[include the shape]'


Sara

00:02:268~00:03:047 reduce volume


Tsugumi

00:06:748(1) - by this way?

*00:07:527(2) - if you change the shape of (1) ,make (2) symmetric with (1)
00:18:826(1) - move 4 grid up and 1 grid right(lv3)

star~

Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

H-boy wrote:

Coco

nice~

00:12:982(4) - whistle ok
00:14:540(3) - remove whistle aye ~
00:40:644(2) - move 1 grid left or 2 grid left(lv3) done
01:58:287(8) - symmetric with (7)-01:56:729-[include the shape]' nope sry = =


Sara

00:02:268~00:03:047 reduce volume cool idea, changed owo
[attachment=1:a5272]1.png[/attachment:a5272]

Tsugumi

00:06:748(1) - by this way? i think that shape is pretty cool :P
[attachment=0:a5272]2.png[/attachment:a5272]
*00:07:527(2) - if you change the shape of (1) ,make (2) symmetric with (1)
00:18:826(1) - move 4 grid up and 1 grid right(lv3) okessu ~

star~
Thank you very much Hentai :D
artpiggo
Sara and Coco is too nice to mod XD

Tsugumi diff

00 55 060 I think it's too jumping from 6 to 1
02 05 243 I think it's too jumping from 4 to 5

just suggestion. you can ignore me

Star
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

artpiggo wrote:

Sara and Coco is too nice to mod XD

Tsugumi diff

00 55 060 I think it's too jumping from 6 to 1
02 05 243 I think it's too jumping from 4 to 5 hm, i think these jumps are okay...sry ><

just suggestion. you can ignore me

Star
Sry that i didn't change anything but i'm happy that you tried it :D [thx for star^^]
Sallad4ever
Hi phoenix~

[General]
- see this for a perfect symmetry slider :D
- silent slider slide and slider tick is unrankable, at least don't silent the tick
- 02:01:404 (3) - this offset is too early, try listening with 25% speed and you'll notice it. 121.446 is better
- I don't understand why do you have to use so many timing section, even the volume is always changing. I suggest you to not put timing section all over the place, maybe only in some part of the music

[Coco]
increase HP by 1 tick
02:03:195 (5) - the volume decrease is too sudden, use 30% volume then decrease it in the next timing section

[Sora]
there are inconsistency in offsets in this diff, they are:
- missing an offset in 73.070
- missing an offset in 121.404 (change this offset pls)
rise the CS by 1
01:06:744 (7) - the repeat doesn't follow anything, might as well change this into a single long slider
02:05:543 (1) - add timing section in this spinner and decreased the volume all the way to the left

[Tsugumi]
00:42:787 (3) - (nazi) stack this properly, there's still 0.04x spacing :P
01:04:800 (6) - follow the music and change this into circle in 01:04:800 & 01:04:995
01:07:137 (4) - remove the 0.5 timing section then snap this slider to 1/6 in 01:07:006 add another repeat to it
like this http://puu.sh/LoA
02:06:377 - move this timing section to 02:05:404 (1)
02:05:243 (5) - too far in the corner, maybe move this poor circle up a little

Coco and Sora is kinda similar pattern wise, but it's not a big problem...I guess
Nice map but very sad music, I'm weak with this kind of thing :cry:
~star
Topic Starter
Magicphoenix

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hi phoenix~

[General]
- see this for a perfect symmetry slider :D = =|||
- silent slider slide and slider tick is unrankable, at least don't silent the tick reduced Slider Tick Rate so it doesn't matter now = =
- 02:01:404 (3) - this offset is too early, try listening with 25% speed and you'll notice it. 121.446 is better ok~
- I don't understand why do you have to use so many timing section, even the volume is always changing. I suggest you to not put timing section all over the place, maybe only in some part of the music =A=....

[Coco]
increase HP by 1 tick ok
02:03:195 (5) - the volume decrease is too sudden, use 30% volume then decrease it in the next timing section ok

[Sora] Sara not Sora ! >:(
there are inconsistency in offsets in this diff, they are:
- missing an offset in 73.070
- missing an offset in 121.404 (change this offset pls) oh forgot them somehow^^ :D
rise the CS by 1 hm..ok
01:06:744 (7) - the repeat doesn't follow anything, might as well change this into a single long slider it does IMO
02:05:543 (1) - add timing section in this spinner and decreased the volume all the way to the left ok

[Tsugumi]
00:42:787 (3) - (nazi) stack this properly, there's still 0.04x spacing :P XDD
01:04:800 (6) - follow the music and change this into circle in 01:04:800 & 01:04:995 chang'd =w=
01:07:137 (4) - remove the 0.5 timing section then snap this slider to 1/6 in 01:07:006 add another repeat to it
like this http://puu.sh/LoA oh cool idea =D
02:06:377 - move this timing section to 02:05:404 (1) ok
02:05:243 (5) - too far in the corner, maybe move this poor circle up a little I feel sorry for that circle too but i want to follow the "submarine" :(

Coco and Sora is kinda similar pattern wise, but it's not a big problem...I guess
Nice map but very sad music, I'm weak with this kind of thing :cry: desho desho ;_;
~star
Thank you very much Sallad :D ~
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