That's rich coming from you, Mr. Hitler. =D
So what. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Just because they do some things right, doesn't mean they do everything right. Whether it is good at reforming petty criminals it a moot point,what is cleat is that it is absolutely lacking in being able to deal justice when people have committed atrocities. How many people does someone have to kill, torture, rape and brutalise before 21 years of playing video games and relaxing in a holiday resort then release for good behaviour becomes insufficient?DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
And yet they have the best prison system in the world, when talking about rates of re-offence for example.
Sometimes, solutions are counter-intuitive to your feelings.
..So he had an abusive, awful childhood, exacerbated by the school and prison systems that he'd been to in his youth. A bit hard to see him as just some evil guy that deserves to be judged the same way as anyone else, considering how fucked up his entire life had been up to that point. This is the case for most people who do terrible things.No. Just because one guy has a sob story doesn't mean you can generalise it to mean that everyone who ever did something bad had a proportionately bad earlier life. You have people like him, then you have people like Elliot Rodger who had a perfectly good childhood but just brooded on some minor hardship and then did what they did. People have free will and it's not just all environmental determinism, I'd be willing to bet that serial killers have lives no harder than 1000 other people who managed to lead normal lives.
In other words the "right side of history" fallacy.Railey2 wrote:
I don't like the idea of criminals having it easy in prison either, but if that is what it takes to create the lowest rate of re-offenders and a healthy society, then maybe i should reconsider if my "sense of justice" is worth being pursued. In other words: If your sense of justice doesn't create any utilitarian value, it belongs on the historical garbage-dump, right next to witch-hunts, laws regarding bastards, the opression of women and everything else we got rid of to create a better life for everyone.
Not at all, it'd be quite nice to live in a world like that. Unfortunately, I'm not religious, so the concept of "libertarian free will" doesn't exactly match the objective reality that I live in.B1rd wrote:
Does free will scare you?
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So what. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Just because they do some things right, doesn't mean they do everything right.
Elliot Rodger is an example of someone who reacted disproportionately to their life situation, which means that he chose to do so of his own will. People have free will and it's not just all environmental determinism
Would there be more utilitarian value in letting the convicted of the Nuremburg trials off on good behaviour?
B1rd wrote:
Your cultural marxism is showing through. Oh I'm sorry, "objective left-wing determinism".
it always does when B1rd is involved, I wonder whyGreen Platinum wrote:
This discussion has gone off the fucking rails lol
bitpetite advertised themselves with the promise of a daily 4,5% return on your capital. If thats not the most obvious ponzi-scheme out there, then I don't know what is. All it takes is one look at their claims, and you know to stay away from it.lol wrote:
did anyone else get fucked in the ass by hextracoin or bitpetite
FuZ wrote:
every ot politics posters should get death penalty tbh
A safer bet than investing in health insuranceRailey2 wrote:
Did you gamble that you could make your money back before they take it all and run?
i didnt lend to bitpetite but some of my group were 20k deepRailey2 wrote:
bitpetite advertised themselves with the promise of a daily 4,5% return on your capital. If thats not the most obvious ponzi-scheme out there, then I don't know what is. All it takes is one look at their claims, and you know to stay away from it.lol wrote:
did anyone else get fucked in the ass by hextracoin or bitpetite
I don't know how you could be so stupid. Ponzi pulled that shit in the 1920s, and people today are still falling for the same trick, I don't know how anybody in their right mind could go for this.
This is basically what im doing with regalcoin and bcc, i am 35k deep in this bitch but bcc seems to be in for the long run so not worriedRailey2 wrote:
YOU of all people with all your criminal energy, I'd expect you to be one of the guys behind bitpetite if anything. How did this even happen? Did you gamble that you could make your money back before they take it all and run?
that would still be a better investment than a tablet for just osu.Milkshake wrote:
@Tanzklaue I don't know why but your remark reminds me of people who get really expensive tablets to "improve their art" lol
N0thingSpecial wrote:
I invest in potatos
what's your point, we should overlook it because he said that he's not perfect before?B1rd wrote:
Do you have something against Jordan Peterson?
https://youtu.be/GJJClhqGq_M?t=54m35s