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Evening

Joined December 2012

Evening 2017-03-29T14:56:02+00:00

22:19 CrumpetFiddler: Hey, evening
22:19 Evening: hello
22:19 CrumpetFiddler: Can i ask you 2 questions real quick?
22:20 Evening: yes
22:20 CrumpetFiddler: How long have you been a BN, ive never noticed XD
22:21 CrumpetFiddler: and also i
22:22 CrumpetFiddler: i've spoken to another BN, who considers my map as "ready" But he asked me to get other Bns opinions on the map before doing anything
22:22 Evening: 1year+
22:22 CrumpetFiddler: How have i not noticed :/
22:25 Evening: and your second question?
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: oh, what i said about speaking to a bn
22:26 Evening: yea, was waiting for like a specific question or something
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: i was wondering if you would be able to check my map, to make sure its up to par about the standards
22:26 Evening: i can just look through it
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: oh, no not really :/ i didnt word that very well
22:26 Evening: is there anything specific
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: Insane diff is the one to watch the most closely
22:27 CrumpetFiddler: and the patterns towards the end of the song
22:27 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247426 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
22:28 CrumpetFiddler: but overall other guy i spoke to the next stage after having the song all modded and up to par, is to get the map bubbled?
22:28 CrumpetFiddler: im not 100% sure what that entails though
22:28 Evening: wot
22:28 Evening: im really bad at like, reading long sentences
22:29 CrumpetFiddler: Im bad at explaining them lol
22:29 Evening: well basically
22:29 Evening: you ask a bn to bubble your map, if he/she thinks it's ok you get a bubble
22:29 Evening: next bn you ask for a heart/rank
22:29 Evening: if he thinks it's really not ok he'll pop the bubble and you go back to square one
22:30 CrumpetFiddler: Whats the difference between a heart and a rank?
22:30 Evening: if it's ok he'll mod it and possibly rank it
22:30 Evening: nothing
22:30 CrumpetFiddler: oh
22:30 Evening: heart is the icon that bns put
22:30 Evening: rank is the action
22:30 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
22:30 Evening: if you get a mod that is large and you self pop, you have to go back to the very first bn
22:30 Evening: if it's minor you can proceed with heart/rank
22:31 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
22:31 CrumpetFiddler: so i guess what im here for, is if you deem this bubble worthy
22:31 Evening: too lazy to rank
22:31 CrumpetFiddler: XD
22:31 Evening: and i have like, bad responsibility
22:31 Evening: if it gets unranked you have to ask some other guy to rank it
22:32 CrumpetFiddler: wym
22:32 Evening: idk what to feel about this map
22:32 Evening: 00:12:343 (12343|0,12754|1) -  like i feel these could be lns
22:32 Evening: no major things i really think should be changed basically
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: phew, thats a good sign
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: thats the diff i was most worried for
22:33 Evening: 00:29:398 (29398|1,29500|0,29500|2,29603|1,29603|3) -  what i feel odd is that the first 2 notes here are the louder sounds and you emphasized the 2nd and 3rd
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: oh i see
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: ill fix that
22:33 Evening: 00:47:480 (47480|3,47480|0,47583|1,47685|2,47685|0) -  inconsistent with the rest
22:33 Evening: 00:49:124 (49124|0,49124|1,49226|3,49329|1) -  same here
22:34 Evening: you could add some tags if you wanna
22:34 Evening: feels empty
22:34 Evening: helps in getting your map known anyways
22:34 CrumpetFiddler: Oh yeah
22:35 CrumpetFiddler: i was meaning to ask
22:35 CrumpetFiddler: in tags, what are appropriate things to put in there
22:35 Evening: pretty much anything that isn't a duplicate of everything else in that tab
22:35 Evening: tags are meant to help people search your map
22:35 CrumpetFiddler: oh
22:36 CrumpetFiddler: so simple things like, anime, japanese, dragon ball etc etc
22:36 Evening: yea, i think you can omit japanese and anime
22:36 Evening: since they will be the genre
22:36 CrumpetFiddler: True
22:37 *Evening is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247174 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Hard]]
22:37 Evening: the double drum snare i talked about isn't quite consistent here
22:37 Evening: you did like 13 24 13 some times and you do like 13 24 3 at some other time
22:38 Evening: and like 12 4 1 at another time
22:39 CrumpetFiddler: so consistancy seems to be the main issue
22:39 Evening: it's quite obvious when it's a prominent and unique instrumental pattern
22:39 Evening: not too picky on like, those that players will not care about lol
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: thats fine
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: im happy with any feedback at all tbh
22:40 Evening: cool
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: just fixing those consistancy issues
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: now
22:43 CrumpetFiddler: Quick question about one of the suggestions you gave for insane though
22:46 CrumpetFiddler: you said these 2 notes could be emphasised as lns 00:12:343 (12343|0,12754|1) -
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: what beats would they be following?
22:47 Evening: for the hihats yea
22:47 Evening: i mean cymbal
22:47 Evening: sustained cymbal
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: oh,
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: so like a short ln
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: yeah i can hear that
22:48 Evening: 00:19:740 (19740|1) - you have to do it here too i guess, or not
22:48 Evening: up to you
22:48 CrumpetFiddler: i might leave that one out. would that be a big deal
22:49 Evening: not really
22:49 CrumpetFiddler: or for consistancy i have to remove the other lns just added?
22:49 Evening:  like, consistency is good if the player can notice it
22:49 Evening: otherwise it's not really worth the effort
22:49 CrumpetFiddler: Heh
22:49 CrumpetFiddler: Nah i see what you mean
22:54 CrumpetFiddler: you should post this to my beatmaps thread
22:55 Evening: uh oka

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-03-29T14:59:54+00:00

Evening wrote:

kinda

22:19 CrumpetFiddler: Hey, evening
22:19 Evening: hello
22:19 CrumpetFiddler: Can i ask you 2 questions real quick?
22:20 Evening: yes
22:20 CrumpetFiddler: How long have you been a BN, ive never noticed XD
22:21 CrumpetFiddler: and also i
22:22 CrumpetFiddler: i've spoken to another BN, who considers my map as "ready" But he asked me to get other Bns opinions on the map before doing anything
22:22 Evening: 1year+
22:22 CrumpetFiddler: How have i not noticed :/
22:25 Evening: and your second question?
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: oh, what i said about speaking to a bn
22:26 Evening: yea, was waiting for like a specific question or something
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: i was wondering if you would be able to check my map, to make sure its up to par about the standards
22:26 Evening: i can just look through it
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: oh, no not really :/ i didnt word that very well
22:26 Evening: is there anything specific
22:26 CrumpetFiddler: Insane diff is the one to watch the most closely
22:27 CrumpetFiddler: and the patterns towards the end of the song
22:27 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247426 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
22:28 CrumpetFiddler: but overall other guy i spoke to the next stage after having the song all modded and up to par, is to get the map bubbled?
22:28 CrumpetFiddler: im not 100% sure what that entails though
22:28 Evening: wot
22:28 Evening: im really bad at like, reading long sentences
22:29 CrumpetFiddler: Im bad at explaining them lol
22:29 Evening: well basically
22:29 Evening: you ask a bn to bubble your map, if he/she thinks it's ok you get a bubble
22:29 Evening: next bn you ask for a heart/rank
22:29 Evening: if he thinks it's really not ok he'll pop the bubble and you go back to square one
22:30 CrumpetFiddler: Whats the difference between a heart and a rank?
22:30 Evening: if it's ok he'll mod it and possibly rank it
22:30 Evening: nothing
22:30 CrumpetFiddler: oh
22:30 Evening: heart is the icon that bns put
22:30 Evening: rank is the action
22:30 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
22:30 Evening: if you get a mod that is large and you self pop, you have to go back to the very first bn
22:30 Evening: if it's minor you can proceed with heart/rank
22:31 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
22:31 CrumpetFiddler: so i guess what im here for, is if you deem this bubble worthy
22:31 Evening: too lazy to rank
22:31 CrumpetFiddler: XD
22:31 Evening: and i have like, bad responsibility
22:31 Evening: if it gets unranked you have to ask some other guy to rank it
22:32 CrumpetFiddler: wym
22:32 Evening: idk what to feel about this map
22:32 Evening: 00:12:343 (12343|0,12754|1) -  like i feel these could be lns
22:32 Evening: no major things i really think should be changed basically
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: phew, thats a good sign
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: thats the diff i was most worried for
22:33 Evening: 00:29:398 (29398|1,29500|0,29500|2,29603|1,29603|3) -  what i feel odd is that the first 2 notes here are the louder sounds and you emphasized the 2nd and 3rd
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: oh i see
22:33 CrumpetFiddler: ill fix that
22:33 Evening: 00:47:480 (47480|3,47480|0,47583|1,47685|2,47685|0) -  inconsistent with the rest
22:33 Evening: 00:49:124 (49124|0,49124|1,49226|3,49329|1) -  same here
22:34 Evening: you could add some tags if you wanna
22:34 Evening: feels empty
22:34 Evening: helps in getting your map known anyways
22:34 CrumpetFiddler: Oh yeah
22:35 CrumpetFiddler: i was meaning to ask
22:35 CrumpetFiddler: in tags, what are appropriate things to put in there
22:35 Evening: pretty much anything that isn't a duplicate of everything else in that tab
22:35 Evening: tags are meant to help people search your map
22:35 CrumpetFiddler: oh
22:36 CrumpetFiddler: so simple things like, anime, japanese, dragon ball etc etc
22:36 Evening: yea, i think you can omit japanese and anime
22:36 Evening: since they will be the genre
22:36 CrumpetFiddler: True
22:37 *Evening is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247174 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Hard]]
22:37 Evening: the double drum snare i talked about isn't quite consistent here
22:37 Evening: you did like 13 24 13 some times and you do like 13 24 3 at some other time
22:38 Evening: and like 12 4 1 at another time
22:39 CrumpetFiddler: so consistancy seems to be the main issue
22:39 Evening: it's quite obvious when it's a prominent and unique instrumental pattern
22:39 Evening: not too picky on like, those that players will not care about lol
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: thats fine
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: im happy with any feedback at all tbh
22:40 Evening: cool
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: just fixing those consistancy issues
22:40 CrumpetFiddler: now
22:43 CrumpetFiddler: Quick question about one of the suggestions you gave for insane though
22:46 CrumpetFiddler: you said these 2 notes could be emphasised as lns 00:12:343 (12343|0,12754|1) -
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: what beats would they be following?
22:47 Evening: for the hihats yea
22:47 Evening: i mean cymbal
22:47 Evening: sustained cymbal
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: oh,
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: so like a short ln
22:47 CrumpetFiddler: yeah i can hear that
22:48 Evening: 00:19:740 (19740|1) - you have to do it here too i guess, or not
22:48 Evening: up to you
22:48 CrumpetFiddler: i might leave that one out. would that be a big deal
22:49 Evening: not really
22:49 CrumpetFiddler: or for consistancy i have to remove the other lns just added?
22:49 Evening:  like, consistency is good if the player can notice it
22:49 Evening: otherwise it's not really worth the effort
22:49 CrumpetFiddler: Heh
22:49 CrumpetFiddler: Nah i see what you mean
22:54 CrumpetFiddler: you should post this to my beatmaps thread
22:55 Evening: uh oka

Thanks for the mod bud ^u^

Protastic101

1,170 posts

Joined July 2015

Protastic101 2017-03-29T23:08:00+00:00

*irc boop*

2017-03-29 17:22 CrumpetFiddler: hey?
2017-03-29 17:22 Protastic101: Hello ~
2017-03-29 17:23 CrumpetFiddler: a friend of mine recommended that i speak to you about a map that him and I consider bubble-worthy,
2017-03-29 17:24 CrumpetFiddler: it was lefrave
2017-03-29 17:24 Protastic101: link me the map and I'll check it out
2017-03-29 17:24 Protastic101: no promises or anything
2017-03-29 17:24 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247174 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
2017-03-29 17:24 CrumpetFiddler: no big deal mate
2017-03-29 17:27 Protastic101: pretty solid map overall minus a couple things, but I seriously cannot stand the song
2017-03-29 17:28 CrumpetFiddler: its not everyones thing but im happy to hear that it looks solid
2017-03-29 17:29 Protastic101: Yeah =w=)b
2017-03-29 17:29 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-03-29 17:29 Protastic101: 00:07:411 (7411|2) - real quick though, shouldn't this be in column 2 if you're going to be consistent with the structure at 00:00:836 (836|3,1041|3,1247|0,1452|0,1658|2,1863|2) - ?
2017-03-29 17:30 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah your right, just fixed
2017-03-29 17:31 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689096 kind of like this or something
2017-03-29 17:31 Protastic101: 00:10:083 (10083|0) - not a big deal, but it would be better to make all the hitsounds spread across all three notes here so that even if the player misses one, they still get some kind of feedback
2017-03-29 17:32 Protastic101: 00:09:261 (9261|3,9466|3,10083|2,10288|2) - kind of similar to what was mentioned above. I cant figure out why you're sometimes using stacks and often times not :/
2017-03-29 17:32 CrumpetFiddler: where you took that picture, could you give me a timestamp for that?
2017-03-29 17:33 Protastic101: 00:07:411 - starts here
2017-03-29 17:36 CrumpetFiddler: Cool, sorted the things, besides hitsounds
2017-03-29 17:37 CrumpetFiddler: so on the "finish" have it span across all the notes? incase one of them is missed
2017-03-29 17:37 Protastic101: that's just what I recommend, but it's not required
2017-03-29 17:38 Protastic101: 00:13:165 (13165|1,13267|2,13370|1,13473|2,13576|1,13678|2) - same applies here. You can put the hitsounds on the same note, but it's better if you spread them out like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689131
2017-03-29 17:38 CrumpetFiddler: ah, ok, Im still pretty new to the ranking scene
2017-03-29 17:38 Protastic101: lmao sameee
2017-03-29 17:38 CrumpetFiddler: are you?
2017-03-29 17:39 Protastic101: I dont have a ranked map anyways so yeah :thinking:
2017-03-29 17:40 CrumpetFiddler: oh, thats surprising
2017-03-29 17:41 Protastic101: 00:12:343 (12343|0) - I would suggest moving this onto column 2 and making it a 1/2 LN to represent the open hat, like this or something similar https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689141
2017-03-29 17:41 Protastic101: ima bn without a circle jerk :/
2017-03-29 17:41 CrumpetFiddler: isnt that better
2017-03-29 17:42 Protastic101: I mean, I dont get dragged into drama regarding ranked section, but no ranked maps is like D:
2017-03-29 17:43 CrumpetFiddler: im sure youd be able to get one ranked pretty easily
2017-03-29 17:43 Protastic101: 00:19:535 (19535|3,19740|1) - I'd switch the columns here so the first note is in 2 and the 2nd note in 4
2017-03-29 17:43 Protastic101: It's to avoid the 4 note stack with 00:19:740 (19740|1,19946|1,20151|1,20357|1) -
2017-03-29 17:44 Protastic101: month 5 of bn, still no ranked map tho :thinking:
2017-03-29 17:44 Protastic101: ah well
2017-03-29 17:46 Protastic101: 00:25:083 (25083|0,25288|0,25494|0,25699|0,25904|0,26110|0) - also, you've got a pretty long stack here. I would suggest rearranging it like this to shorten it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689169
2017-03-29 17:47 CrumpetFiddler: oh, your still a newish bn
2017-03-29 17:47 CrumpetFiddler: thats cool
2017-03-29 17:48 Protastic101: 00:26:932 - this is just a suggestion coming from my perspective as a mapper so you don't need to apply it at all if you don't feel like it, but I might suggest using 1/2 LNs on the upbeats like at 00:27:137 - 00:27:548 - 00:27:959 - 00:28:370 - 00:28:781 - to represent the open hat
2017-03-29 17:49 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689184 so something like this
2017-03-29 17:50 Protastic101: 00:33:507 - i would also add another note here to make a triple since it's the start of a new musical phrase
2017-03-29 17:53 Protastic101: 00:40:083 - also, this should be a triple considering 00:26:932 - was a triple too
2017-03-29 17:53 Protastic101: 00:39:261 - and comparing your jumptrill, it should be 1/1 jumps with 1/4 singles like 00:25:494 - was
2017-03-29 17:53 CrumpetFiddler: would that be weird? it would form a jck
2017-03-29 17:53 CrumpetFiddler: jack*
2017-03-29 17:54 Protastic101: you can always remove a note like 00:39:980 (39980|1) - and just use a single there instead
2017-03-29 17:54 CrumpetFiddler: i think that works alright
2017-03-29 17:55 Protastic101: 00:52:720 (52720|1,52925|1,53028|0,53130|1,53233|0) - whew, that direction turn makes me cry
2017-03-29 17:55 Protastic101: 00:53:130 (53130|1,53233|2) - I would control J these so that the roll moves in only one direction starting at 00:53:028 -
2017-03-29 17:57 CrumpetFiddler: im not sure i follow what you mean there
2017-03-29 17:58 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689219 basically make the two highlighted notes like that instead to avoid a direction change on the left hand
2017-03-29 17:58 CrumpetFiddler: ooooh yeah, i get it
2017-03-29 18:00 Protastic101: Yeah, so basically that
2017-03-29 18:00 Protastic101: I'd mod more, but the song kind of makes me want to stab my ear drums so \o/
2017-03-29 18:00 Protastic101: ACTION hops away
2017-03-29 18:00 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-03-29 18:00 CrumpetFiddler: i quite like it tbh
2017-03-29 18:01 CrumpetFiddler: So, what should i do now, am i still at the stage where i should still gather more mods?
2017-03-29 18:01 Protastic101: eh no, you can probably ask some other BNs for their opinion
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: since it's pretty short, I'm sure someone else would accept it
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: Try Juankristal
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: or Rivals_7
2017-03-29 18:02 CrumpetFiddler: Ive already got one person whose currently ok with it
2017-03-29 18:02 CrumpetFiddler: and he said he would do a qualifying check providing i could get someone else to bubble it
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: Who said that? Fresh_Chicken?
2017-03-29 18:03 CrumpetFiddler: Fresh chicken doesnt do this stuff rn i dont thikn
2017-03-29 18:03 CrumpetFiddler: YaHao i think
2017-03-29 18:03 Protastic101: Normally FC's the one who says "get a bubble first" lol
2017-03-29 18:03 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-03-29 18:04 Protastic101: D:
2017-03-29 18:04 Protastic101: anyways, want me to post log yay or nay?
2017-03-29 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: If you want yeah
2017-03-29 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: so should i keep gathering mods?
2017-03-29 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: or is it worthy of continuation with a bubble?

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-03-30T20:37:26+00:00

Protastic101 wrote:
*irc boop*
2017-03-29 17:22 CrumpetFiddler: hey?
2017-03-29 17:22 Protastic101: Hello ~
2017-03-29 17:23 CrumpetFiddler: a friend of mine recommended that i speak to you about a map that him and I consider bubble-worthy,
2017-03-29 17:24 CrumpetFiddler: it was lefrave
2017-03-29 17:24 Protastic101: link me the map and I'll check it out
2017-03-29 17:24 Protastic101: no promises or anything
2017-03-29 17:24 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247174 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
2017-03-29 17:24 CrumpetFiddler: no big deal mate
2017-03-29 17:27 Protastic101: pretty solid map overall minus a couple things, but I seriously cannot stand the song
2017-03-29 17:28 CrumpetFiddler: its not everyones thing but im happy to hear that it looks solid
2017-03-29 17:29 Protastic101: Yeah =w=)b
2017-03-29 17:29 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-03-29 17:29 Protastic101: 00:07:411 (7411|2) - real quick though, shouldn't this be in column 2 if you're going to be consistent with the structure at 00:00:836 (836|3,1041|3,1247|0,1452|0,1658|2,1863|2) - ?
2017-03-29 17:30 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah your right, just fixed
2017-03-29 17:31 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689096 kind of like this or something
2017-03-29 17:31 Protastic101: 00:10:083 (10083|0) - not a big deal, but it would be better to make all the hitsounds spread across all three notes here so that even if the player misses one, they still get some kind of feedback
2017-03-29 17:32 Protastic101: 00:09:261 (9261|3,9466|3,10083|2,10288|2) - kind of similar to what was mentioned above. I cant figure out why you're sometimes using stacks and often times not :/
2017-03-29 17:32 CrumpetFiddler: where you took that picture, could you give me a timestamp for that?
2017-03-29 17:33 Protastic101: 00:07:411 - starts here
2017-03-29 17:36 CrumpetFiddler: Cool, sorted the things, besides hitsounds
2017-03-29 17:37 CrumpetFiddler: so on the "finish" have it span across all the notes? incase one of them is missed
2017-03-29 17:37 Protastic101: that's just what I recommend, but it's not required
2017-03-29 17:38 Protastic101: 00:13:165 (13165|1,13267|2,13370|1,13473|2,13576|1,13678|2) - same applies here. You can put the hitsounds on the same note, but it's better if you spread them out like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689131
2017-03-29 17:38 CrumpetFiddler: ah, ok, Im still pretty new to the ranking scene
2017-03-29 17:38 Protastic101: lmao sameee
2017-03-29 17:38 CrumpetFiddler: are you?
2017-03-29 17:39 Protastic101: I dont have a ranked map anyways so yeah :thinking:
2017-03-29 17:40 CrumpetFiddler: oh, thats surprising
2017-03-29 17:41 Protastic101: 00:12:343 (12343|0) - I would suggest moving this onto column 2 and making it a 1/2 LN to represent the open hat, like this or something similar https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689141
2017-03-29 17:41 Protastic101: ima bn without a circle jerk :/
2017-03-29 17:41 CrumpetFiddler: isnt that better
2017-03-29 17:42 Protastic101: I mean, I dont get dragged into drama regarding ranked section, but no ranked maps is like D:
2017-03-29 17:43 CrumpetFiddler: im sure youd be able to get one ranked pretty easily
2017-03-29 17:43 Protastic101: 00:19:535 (19535|3,19740|1) - I'd switch the columns here so the first note is in 2 and the 2nd note in 4
2017-03-29 17:43 Protastic101: It's to avoid the 4 note stack with 00:19:740 (19740|1,19946|1,20151|1,20357|1) -
2017-03-29 17:44 Protastic101: month 5 of bn, still no ranked map tho :thinking:
2017-03-29 17:44 Protastic101: ah well
2017-03-29 17:46 Protastic101: 00:25:083 (25083|0,25288|0,25494|0,25699|0,25904|0,26110|0) - also, you've got a pretty long stack here. I would suggest rearranging it like this to shorten it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689169
2017-03-29 17:47 CrumpetFiddler: oh, your still a newish bn
2017-03-29 17:47 CrumpetFiddler: thats cool
2017-03-29 17:48 Protastic101: 00:26:932 - this is just a suggestion coming from my perspective as a mapper so you don't need to apply it at all if you don't feel like it, but I might suggest using 1/2 LNs on the upbeats like at 00:27:137 - 00:27:548 - 00:27:959 - 00:28:370 - 00:28:781 - to represent the open hat
2017-03-29 17:49 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689184 so something like this
2017-03-29 17:50 Protastic101: 00:33:507 - i would also add another note here to make a triple since it's the start of a new musical phrase
2017-03-29 17:53 Protastic101: 00:40:083 - also, this should be a triple considering 00:26:932 - was a triple too
2017-03-29 17:53 Protastic101: 00:39:261 - and comparing your jumptrill, it should be 1/1 jumps with 1/4 singles like 00:25:494 - was
2017-03-29 17:53 CrumpetFiddler: would that be weird? it would form a jck
2017-03-29 17:53 CrumpetFiddler: jack*
2017-03-29 17:54 Protastic101: you can always remove a note like 00:39:980 (39980|1) - and just use a single there instead
2017-03-29 17:54 CrumpetFiddler: i think that works alright
2017-03-29 17:55 Protastic101: 00:52:720 (52720|1,52925|1,53028|0,53130|1,53233|0) - whew, that direction turn makes me cry
2017-03-29 17:55 Protastic101: 00:53:130 (53130|1,53233|2) - I would control J these so that the roll moves in only one direction starting at 00:53:028 -
2017-03-29 17:57 CrumpetFiddler: im not sure i follow what you mean there
2017-03-29 17:58 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7689219 basically make the two highlighted notes like that instead to avoid a direction change on the left hand
2017-03-29 17:58 CrumpetFiddler: ooooh yeah, i get it
2017-03-29 18:00 Protastic101: Yeah, so basically that
2017-03-29 18:00 Protastic101: I'd mod more, but the song kind of makes me want to stab my ear drums so \o/
2017-03-29 18:00 Protastic101: ACTION hops away
2017-03-29 18:00 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-03-29 18:00 CrumpetFiddler: i quite like it tbh
2017-03-29 18:01 CrumpetFiddler: So, what should i do now, am i still at the stage where i should still gather more mods?
2017-03-29 18:01 Protastic101: eh no, you can probably ask some other BNs for their opinion
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: since it's pretty short, I'm sure someone else would accept it
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: Try Juankristal
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: or Rivals_7
2017-03-29 18:02 CrumpetFiddler: Ive already got one person whose currently ok with it
2017-03-29 18:02 CrumpetFiddler: and he said he would do a qualifying check providing i could get someone else to bubble it
2017-03-29 18:02 Protastic101: Who said that? Fresh_Chicken?
2017-03-29 18:03 CrumpetFiddler: Fresh chicken doesnt do this stuff rn i dont thikn
2017-03-29 18:03 CrumpetFiddler: YaHao i think
2017-03-29 18:03 Protastic101: Normally FC's the one who says "get a bubble first" lol
2017-03-29 18:03 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-03-29 18:04 Protastic101: D:
2017-03-29 18:04 Protastic101: anyways, want me to post log yay or nay?
2017-03-29 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: If you want yeah
2017-03-29 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: so should i keep gathering mods?
2017-03-29 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: or is it worthy of continuation with a bubble?

Thank you for the mod ^u^ ill start self modding and getting peoples opinions before i try asking you or other Bns again, i think i have some bias with the map XD

Another Lie

Another Lie 2017-03-30T21:22:06+00:00

Sorry i have to delayed your request for few days. Busy in real life

Insane

00:14:398 (14398|3) - remove? not really strong beat there
00:24:055 - add note for 3rd col?

Hard

00:20:357 - at least add some note [white / red line] for that part until 00:22:822 - hard diff should not be normal diff

Sorry i can only do simple mod... it tooks me 4 hours to learn your mapping style -_-
Call me if this mod doesn't really much help for you

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-03-30T21:39:19+00:00

Another Lie wrote:
Sorry i have to delayed your request for few days. Busy in real life
Insane
00:14:398 (14398|3) - remove? not really strong beat there
00:24:055 - add note for 3rd col?
Hard
00:20:357 - at least add some note [white / red line] for that part until 00:22:822 - hard diff should not be normal diff
Sorry i can only do simple mod... it tooks me 4 hours to learn your mapping style -_-
Call me if this mod doesn't really much help for you

Any changes that can be made to make the song better is worth the mod imo thanks bud
I'll award kudos after I implement the changes. ( later tonight )

UPDATE : all changes were made, thanks alot bud

Hydria

Beatmap Nominator

1,245 posts

Joined April 2011

Hydria 2017-03-31T18:23:07+00:00

well you wanted a critical mod so here it is
first of all your song choice could've been be--*shot*

Insane

00:40:699 (40699|2,40904|1) - switch these for PR
00:41:110 (41110|0,41315|1) - switch these for PR
00:41:521 (41521|0,41726|3) - switch these for PR
00:41:932 (41932|0) - move to 2 for patterning
00:43:370 - I got lazy remembering what I did so do this

00:47:891 (47891|2) - move to 1 for patterning
00:48:096 (48096|0,48302|1) - move 1 to the right for PR
00:48:918 (48918|2) - move to 2 for patterning
00:50:357 (50357|2,50562|1,50973|2) - ctrl-H for patterning

Hard

let's talk about hand balance
00:06:589 (6589|0,6795|1,7000|0,7206|1,7411|0,7617|1) -
00:08:644 (8644|0,8850|1,9055|0,9261|1,9466|0,9672|1,9877|0,10083|1) -
00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13370|1,13473|0,13576|1) - do

00:16:452 (16452|1,16555|2,16658|1) - switch these 3 around to make it more comfortable for players
00:16:863 (16863|0,17069|1,17274|0,17480|1,17891|1,17891|0,18096|0,18302|1) -
00:18:302 (18302|2,18507|2,18918|2) - move 1 of these notes
00:27:343 (27343|1,27548|0,27754|1,27959|0,28165|1,28576|1,28576|0) -
00:34:329 (34329|2,34432|3) - switch these two around, preference
00:39:055 - try

00:52:411 - try

im too bad at this modding thing to do the rest so hf

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-04-01T02:47:26+00:00

Hydria wrote:
well you wanted a critical mod so here it is
first of all your song choice could've been be--*shot*

Insane
00:00:631 (631|0,631|2) - move this to 3|4 since the song starts on a high note
00:00:836 (836|3) - move to 3 for patterning
00:01:041 (1041|3) - move to 1 for patterning
00:01:247 (1247|0) - move to 4 for PR (pitch relevancy)
00:01:452 (1452|3) - move to 3 for PR
00:01:658 (1658|2) - move to 1 for patterning
00:01:863 (1863|3,2069|1) - ctrl-G for PR
00:04:535 (4535|1) - move to 1 for PR
00:04:740 (4740|1,4946|2) - ctrl-G for PR
00:05:357 (5357|1,5562|2) - same
00:05:767 (5767|0) - move to 4 for patterning
00:05:870 - rip lyrics
00:05:973 (5973|2) - move to 1 for PR
00:06:178 (6178|3) - move to 3 and move 00:06:384 (6384|1) - to 4 for PR
00:08:028 (8028|1) - move to 3 for PR
00:08:850 (8850|3) - move to 2 for PR
00:09:672 (9672|0) - move to 2 for PR
00:10:494 (10494|0,10699|1) - switch these two, personal preference
00:11:932 (11932|1,12137|3) - switch these two for PR
00:13:987 (13987|3,14192|2) - switch these two for patterning
00:18:918 (18918|1) - move to 3 and move 00:19:124 (19124|2) - to 4 for PR
00:19:329 (19329|2) - move to 1 for PR
00:22:206 (22206|0) - move to 2 to avoid anchor 1st column
00:24:466 (24466|2,24672|2,24877|2,25083|2,25288|2) - rip anchor
00:27:343 (27343|1) - move to 3 for PR
00:27:548 (27548|3) - move to 2 for PR
00:27:754 (27754|0) - move to 4 for PR
00:28:987 (28987|2) - move to 2 for patterning
00:29:192 (29192|1) - move to 4 for PR
00:30:425 (30425|1) - move to 3 for PR
00:30:630 (30630|3) - move to 2 for PR
00:31:041 (31041|2) - move to 1 for PR
00:31:247 (31247|0) - move to 3 for PR
00:31:452 (31452|3) - move to 1 for patterning
00:31:658 (31658|2) - move to 2 for PR
00:33:713 (33713|3,33918|0) - switch these for patterning
00:37:411 (37411|1,37617|3) - switch these for PR
00:37:822 (37822|0,38028|1) - switch these for PR
00:38:439 - this is a lot more comfortable

00:40:699 (40699|2,40904|1) - switch these for PR
00:41:110 (41110|0,41315|1) - switch these for PR
00:41:521 (41521|0,41726|3) - switch these for PR
00:41:932 (41932|0) - move to 2 for patterning
00:43:370 - I got lazy remembering what I did so do this

00:47:891 (47891|2) - move to 1 for patterning
00:48:096 (48096|0,48302|1) - move 1 to the right for PR
00:48:918 (48918|2) - move to 2 for patterning
00:50:357 (50357|2,50562|1,50973|2) - ctrl-H for patterning

Hard
let's talk about hand balance
00:06:589 (6589|0,6795|1,7000|0,7206|1,7411|0,7617|1) -
00:08:644 (8644|0,8850|1,9055|0,9261|1,9466|0,9672|1,9877|0,10083|1) -
00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13370|1,13473|0,13576|1) - do

00:16:452 (16452|1,16555|2,16658|1) - switch these 3 around to make it more comfortable for players
00:16:863 (16863|0,17069|1,17274|0,17480|1,17891|1,17891|0,18096|0,18302|1) -
00:18:302 (18302|2,18507|2,18918|2) - move 1 of these notes
00:27:343 (27343|1,27548|0,27754|1,27959|0,28165|1,28576|1,28576|0) -
00:34:329 (34329|2,34432|3) - switch these two around, preference
00:39:055 - try

00:52:411 - try

im too bad at this modding thing to do the rest so hf

I appreciate you modding this especially as to this must of taken some time, Thanks alot bby <3
(all changes above were made)

Asherz007

Beatmap Nominator

689 posts

Joined September 2016

Asherz007 2017-04-02T17:00:08+00:00

Hi! From the PM. (Well, you've modded two of mine already so why not return the favour?)

General

Not much to put here, apart from why is Easy OD HP 8? (And maybe think about making Insane OD 8.5)

0|1|2|3

Easy

00:07:206 (7206|3) - Missing finish HS? (pattern thing)
00:07:822 (7822|3) - Move to col 2 to prevent shielding?
00:23:644 (23644|2) - Add finish HS?
00:26:932 (26932|0) - Make a double?
00:32:891 (32891|3,33302|1) - Switch columns to prevent shielding?
00:40:083 (40083|0) - Make a double?
00:52:411 (52411|0,52617|1,52822|3,53028|2) - Personally not a fan of 1/2 LNs in Easy diffs. Nothing wrong with them technically speaking, but consider making these normal notes.

LeFrave's Normal

00:12:959 (12959|2) - Make a normal note? I think you want to mirror the pattern at 00:12:343 (12343|3,12343|0,12446|2,12548|1), right? Other LNs after this should be fine.
00:18:302 (18302|0,18302|1) - I think this is overemphasising a little and should be a single.
00:21:178 (21178|1,21178|2) - Finish rather than clap HS here?
00:23:336 (23336|2,23439|1,23541|0) - Clap HS rather than finish?
00:36:384 (36384|0) - +finish HS?
00:53:233 (53233|0,53233|3) - finish them on the white tick, which matches the other diffs (and is better imo)

Hard

00:06:795 (6795|1) - remove whistle HS?
00:10:494 - I think your hitsounding consistency got a little broken here. 00:10:802 (10802|3) needs a finish HS and I also reckon a note needs to be at 00:11:315, also with the finish HS.
00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13267|2,13370|3,13370|0,13473|1,13576|3,13576|2,13678|1) - One HS or the other, having both feels like overkill imo. I'd go for keeping the clap HS.
00:13:781 (13781|0) - +whistle HS?
00:16:555 (16555|0,16555|1) - Feels a little over-emphasised as a double. Reduce to a single?
00:18:918 (18918|2) - Make an LN? (vocal pattern potentially)
00:20:048 (20048|1,20151|3,20254|2) - Remove one HS? (Like at 00:13:165)
00:39:877 (39877|2,39980|0) - +clap HS?
00:45:836 - a little HS consistency hiccup here.

Insane

Nice, nice... not many note things to say, but a few HS ones.

00:13:165 (13165|0,13165|1,13267|2,13267|3,13370|1,13370|0,13473|2,13473|3,13576|0,13576|1,13678|2,13678|3) - HS things again. Like in the Hard diff.
00:15:014 (15014|0,15014|1) - You've doubled up on the HS here.
00:19:946 (19946|1,19946|2,20048|0,20048|3,20151|1,20151|2,20254|3,20254|0) - HS density. Remove one of them?
00:28:165 (28165|0,28165|2,28165|3) - Perhaps on these, spread the hitsounds out? I can hear two hitnormals. (i.e. put the finish on one note and the clap on another.)
00:29:809 (29809|0,29809|1,30630|1,30630|0,31452|0,31452|1,33096|2,33096|3) - Should these be triples (following a pattern potential, there's a few more cases of this, too)

Overall, a great map and I hope it gets ranked!

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-04-03T03:18:06+00:00

Asherz007 wrote:
Hi! From the PM. (Well, you've modded two of mine already so why not return the favour?)

General
Not much to put here, apart from why is Easy OD HP 8? (And maybe think about making Insane OD 8.5)

0|1|2|3

Easy
00:07:206 (7206|3) - Missing finish HS? (pattern thing)
00:07:822 (7822|3) - Move to col 2 to prevent shielding?
00:23:644 (23644|2) - Add finish HS?
00:26:932 (26932|0) - Make a double?
00:32:891 (32891|3,33302|1) - Switch columns to prevent shielding?
00:40:083 (40083|0) - Make a double?
00:52:411 (52411|0,52617|1,52822|3,53028|2) - Personally not a fan of 1/2 LNs in Easy diffs. Nothing wrong with them technically speaking, but consider making these normal notes.

LeFrave's Normal
00:12:959 (12959|2) - Make a normal note? I think you want to mirror the pattern at 00:12:343 (12343|3,12343|0,12446|2,12548|1), right? Other LNs after this should be fine.
00:18:302 (18302|0,18302|1) - I think this is overemphasising a little and should be a single.
00:21:178 (21178|1,21178|2) - Finish rather than clap HS here?
00:23:336 (23336|2,23439|1,23541|0) - Clap HS rather than finish?
00:36:384 (36384|0) - +finish HS?
00:53:233 (53233|0,53233|3) - finish them on the white tick, which matches the other diffs (and is better imo)

Hard
00:06:795 (6795|1) - remove whistle HS?
00:10:494 - I think your hitsounding consistency got a little broken here. 00:10:802 (10802|3) needs a finish HS and I also reckon a note needs to be at 00:11:315, also with the finish HS.
00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13267|2,13370|3,13370|0,13473|1,13576|3,13576|2,13678|1) - One HS or the other, having both feels like overkill imo. I'd go for keeping the clap HS.
00:13:781 (13781|0) - +whistle HS?
00:16:555 (16555|0,16555|1) - Feels a little over-emphasised as a double. Reduce to a single?
00:18:918 (18918|2) - Make an LN? (vocal pattern potentially)
00:20:048 (20048|1,20151|3,20254|2) - Remove one HS? (Like at 00:13:165)
00:39:877 (39877|2,39980|0) - +clap HS?
00:45:836 - a little HS consistency hiccup here.

Insane
Nice, nice... not many note things to say, but a few HS ones.
00:13:165 (13165|0,13165|1,13267|2,13267|3,13370|1,13370|0,13473|2,13473|3,13576|0,13576|1,13678|2,13678|3) - HS things again. Like in the Hard diff.
00:15:014 (15014|0,15014|1) - You've doubled up on the HS here.
00:19:946 (19946|1,19946|2,20048|0,20048|3,20151|1,20151|2,20254|3,20254|0) - HS density. Remove one of them?
00:28:165 (28165|0,28165|2,28165|3) - Perhaps on these, spread the hitsounds out? I can hear two hitnormals. (i.e. put the finish on one note and the clap on another.)
00:29:809 (29809|0,29809|1,30630|1,30630|0,31452|0,31452|1,33096|2,33096|3) - Should these be triples (following a pattern potential, there's a few more cases of this, too)

Overall, a great map and I hope it gets ranked!

Didnt quite understand what you meant by the last change in insane (ill talk to you about that in pms) other than that, great mod Thanks

Envory

Envory 2017-04-15T16:16:00+00:00

Hi Crumpet!
as I say i'll mod your map too

|1|2|3|4|

Hard

From 00:07:617 (7617|3,7617|2) - to 00:08:439 (8439|2,8439|3) - and 00:08:850 (8850|2,8850|3) - that double note looks one-sided pattern so maybe better like this? > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833830
And if you accepting that mod .. then at 00:09:055 (9055|2) - to 00:09:672 (9672|1,9672|3) - Re-arrange like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833878
00:44:192 (44192|3,44192|1,44398|2,44603|2,44603|3,44809|1,45014|0,45014|2,45220|1,45425|2,45425|3) - Looks one-sided pattern again.. Better re-arrange like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833905

Insane

00:02:891 (2891|2,3096|1,3096|3) - That Ln didn't end at 00:03:507 (3507|1,3507|3,3507|0) - ?? like a hard diff and re-arrange like >
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833939
00:02:274 (2274|0,2685|3,2685|1,2685|2) - Del 1 note.. little excessive
00:18:507 (18507|3) - Change this to Ln at col 2.. like Hard diff
00:31:863 (31863|0) - This Ln.. Didn't end at 00:32:685 (32685|3,32685|1) - ?? and del 1 note at 00:32:685 (32685|3,32685|1) -
00:47:891 (47891|3,47891|1,47891|0) - For this beat pls placed 2 note .. cause the "beat" not too louder than before
00:49:946 (49946|3,49946|2) - Add 1 note as cymbal sound
00:50:357 (50357|1,50357|0,50357|3) - Del 1 note... not too louder

Great map..
Goodluck

Ochasan

522 posts

Joined February 2015

Ochasan 2017-04-16T02:25:28+00:00

HI!

from Ocha's Modding Queue! [OP HIBERNATE]

start now!

click

General
Diff

Easy : HP to 6
Lefrave's Normal : HP to 7
OD to 7
Hard : HP to 7,5/7,6

Song setup

tags GD maker too lol

Easy
not to bad and not to good
well.. this is like 2* for me :/
delete any (not all) note on red tick give newbie space to read notes

Lefrave's Normal
00:12:343 are you sure put them on 1/4?
00:16:452 ^
00:18:302 bass
00:18:507 (18507|2) delete this, since it not bass
00:23:028 again
00:29:398 ^
00:32:685 ^
00:34:329 ^
00:35:973 ^
00:38:644 ^
00:42:548 ^
00:45:836 ^
00:47:480 ^
00:49:124 ^
00:52:411 ^

i will tell you, standard of normal is 1/2, well...
it's okay put 1/4 notes of this diff, but many mapper's considering peope to (just make combo break to miss it XD) newbie/normal player play not too hard

Hard
00:13:165 this pattern like play 4* try to fix them by delete double
00:39:055 ^
00:52:411 ^
00:53:233 tick hitsound, continue to read insane for info

Insane
00:24:055 make them variant
00:21:384 why not give 3 notes on here? push star to 4* :>
00:39:980 lost note
00:46:658 i really sure there are cymbal, add 1 note
00:49:946 ^
00:53:644 (53644|1,53644|2) tick hitsound, main hitsound? change it to soft-hit are better

okay :p
ranked? SHOOOOOOT!!!!

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-04-17T05:57:37+00:00

Mai9392 wrote:
Hi Crumpet!
as I say i'll mod your map too

|1|2|3|4|

Hard

From 00:07:617 (7617|3,7617|2) - to 00:08:439 (8439|2,8439|3) - and 00:08:850 (8850|2,8850|3) - that double note looks one-sided pattern so maybe better like this? > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833830
And if you accepting that mod .. then at 00:09:055 (9055|2) - to 00:09:672 (9672|1,9672|3) - Re-arrange like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833878
00:44:192 (44192|3,44192|1,44398|2,44603|2,44603|3,44809|1,45014|0,45014|2,45220|1,45425|2,45425|3) - Looks one-sided pattern again.. Better re-arrange like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833905

Insane

00:02:891 (2891|2,3096|1,3096|3) - That Ln didn't end at 00:03:507 (3507|1,3507|3,3507|0) - ?? like a hard diff and re-arrange like >
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7833939
00:02:274 (2274|0,2685|3,2685|1,2685|2) - Del 1 note.. little excessive
00:18:507 (18507|3) - Change this to Ln at col 2.. like Hard diff
00:31:863 (31863|0) - This Ln.. Didn't end at 00:32:685 (32685|3,32685|1) - ?? and del 1 note at 00:32:685 (32685|3,32685|1) -
00:47:891 (47891|3,47891|1,47891|0) - For this beat pls placed 2 note .. cause the "beat" not too louder than before
00:49:946 (49946|3,49946|2) - Add 1 note as cymbal sound
00:50:357 (50357|1,50357|0,50357|3) - Del 1 note... not too louder

Great map..
Goodluck

Implemented changes on hard and misunderstood? alot of what you suggested on insane, i might get in tac with you about that.
Besides that thanks

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-04-17T06:10:03+00:00

Ochasan wrote:
HI!

from Ocha's Modding Queue! [OP HIBERNATE]

start now!

click
General
Diff

Easy : HP to 6
Lefrave's Normal : HP to 7
OD to 7
Hard : HP to 7,5/7,6

Song setup

tags GD maker too lol

Easy
not to bad and not to good
well.. this is like 2* for me :/
delete any (not all) note on red tick give newbie space to read notes

Lefrave's Normal
00:12:343 are you sure put them on 1/4?
00:16:452 ^
00:18:302 bass
00:18:507 (18507|2) delete this, since it not bass
00:23:028 again
00:29:398 ^
00:32:685 ^
00:34:329 ^
00:35:973 ^
00:38:644 ^
00:42:548 ^
00:45:836 ^
00:47:480 ^
00:49:124 ^
00:52:411 ^

i will tell you, standard of normal is 1/2, well...
it's okay put 1/4 notes of this diff, but many mapper's considering peope to (just make combo break to miss it XD) newbie/normal player play not too hard

Hard
00:13:165 this pattern like play 4* try to fix them by delete double
00:39:055 ^
00:52:411 ^
00:53:233 tick hitsound, continue to read insane for info

Insane
00:24:055 make them variant
00:21:384 why not give 3 notes on here? push star to 4* :>
00:39:980 lost note
00:46:658 i really sure there are cymbal, add 1 note
00:49:946 ^
00:53:644 (53644|1,53644|2) tick hitsound, main hitsound? change it to soft-hit are better

okay :p
ranked? SHOOOOOOT!!!!

So much of this mod, i didnt uinderstand, talk to me ingame about this, (^) and brief descriptions made it hard to understand what you were trying to say. that being said some changes were made, thanks

Before i forget, im not making the song a certain diff, imo mapping a song for difficulty makes a dump map, so implement changes solely based on that reason i wont add

Moku_Hazushi

76 posts

Joined August 2015

Moku_Hazushi 2017-04-17T12:21:17+00:00

(Coming earlier that expected from my modding queue)

So yup i really like the music and the map is already at a great state (clean mapping, great hitsounding, all necessary difficulties...) but if this can help a bit to make it even better id be satisfied eheh.

So yeah there are many mapping suggestions but obviously take them with a critique eye and apply them only if you are 120% agree with it.

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Easy

00:04:535 (4535|1) - Would move it at (2) to keep the 1 column space you did before at the same moment, avoid the repetition at 00:05:151 and add a fun to play jack (imo)

00:12:959 (12959|3) - AH ! Found one you forgot to add a finish :p (i think)

00:13:165 (13165|0) - I'm not sure about this LN, it does not match the voice starting earlier, and happen when the battery is on fire, what about having one or two double between 00:13:165 and 00:13:781 instead ?

00:24:055 (24055|0,24261|2) - You are oftenly starting from left to right, i think you should add some variation and find something going from right to left here

00:24:877 (24877|1) - Clap here

00:29:809 (29809|0) + 00:42:959 (42959|1) - I would make it an LN because its the end of the musical phrase and it emphasize the other simple notes

Great diff, with good kiai time and fun parts. I dont have many things to say about the mapping so instead i had fun clicking on all the notes to see if you forgot/added to much hitsounds xD

Lefrave's Normal

00:01:658 (1658|1) - At 2 to keep with the alternates you did after

00:10:494 (10494|1) - I think this should be on 0 because just before at 00:10:083 (10083|1) you have that all-in battery stuff, so you dont want the following white beat to be linked with the rest by a stair. (Of course that means remapping a bit the following)

00:13:165 (13165|1,13370|0,13576|3) - Maybe claps are enough here no finish

00:25:596 - I think you should add a note here

00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|3) - You should keep those 2 with no hitsounds

00:42:548 (42548|3,42651|2,42754|1) + 00:42:548 (42548|3,42651|2,42754|1) - Why changing the gimmick you had for the battery now ? Like you did for example at 00:29:398 (29398|3,29500|1,29603|2)

00:29:809 + 00:42:959 - Same remark as Easy diff (about having a LN here)

Really enjoyable kiai with good red lines following the battery, good work overall

Hard

00:03:713 (3713|3) - What about moving it at 1 ? To have the same jack you did at 00:06:795

00:09:877 (9877|0) - Would move it at 2 to keep the same jack feeling as 00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1)

00:13:267 (13267|2,13473|1,13678|1) - Not sure you should use claps on those 1/4

00:16:555 (16555|1) - I have lot of doubts about this clap (o-o"

00:20:048 (20048|1,20254|2) - Same about the 1/4 claps

00:23:130 (23130|2) - Clap here too, i think those clap on 1/4 are too much...

Okay so this is getting repetitive so i will just list below all the clap son 1/4 so if you decided to remove them you wont have to search for them
00:25:596 (25596|1,25802|1,26213|2,26624|2,26829|1,29500|3,32788|3,34432|2,36076|3,38747|1,39158|1,39363|2,39569|2,39774|1,42651|3,45939|3,47583|3,49226|3,52514|2,52720|1,53130|2)

00:28:370 (28370|2) - Move it at 1, the 00:27:548 (27548|2,27754|2,28165|2,28370|2,28781|2) combination make the column a bit unbalance in my sense

00:41:521 (41521|2) - Would move it at 3 to have the same feeling as 00:40:494 (40494|1,40494|0,40699|1)

00:29:809 + 00:42:959 - Same remark as the two others diff (maybe you decided that is not a good idea and you find this repetitive xD)

Comment

Insane

Maybe renaming it to Hard+ or something, this not really an insane difficulty

00:04:124 (4124|2) - This should be at 3 to keep that double + jack you did at the beginning

00:07:000 (7000|2,7103|1) - Maybe CTRL+H those 2 for the symetry with 00:03:713

00:07:206 (7206|0) - No whilste here you had one at 00:06:795 (6795|0)

00:10:083 (10083|0) - I dont think you should have the clap+whistle here
00:18:302 (18302|0) - Same here

00:30:630 - Here i would add a note at 2 for triple and move 00:30:836 (30836|1) to 3

00:31:452 - I was expected a triple here

00:45:220 - I dont see any reason for a double here

00:29:809 + 00:42:959 - I think you know what im talking about here now xD

I had fun playing this difficulty too, great mapping with good difficulty balance and fun ideas. Get it to rank !

Last edited by Moku_Hazushi 2017-04-23T16:34:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-04-18T06:45:42+00:00

Moku_Hazushi wrote:
(Coming earlier that expected from my modding queue)

So yup i really like the music and the map is already at a great state (clean mapping, great hitsounding, all necessary difficulties...) but if this can help a bit to make it even better id be satisfied eheh.

So yeah there are many mapping suggestions but obviously take them with a critique eye and apply them only if you are 120% agree with it.

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Easy

00:04:535 (4535|1) - Would move it at (2) to keep the 1 column space you did before at the same moment, avoid the repetition at 00:05:151 and add a fun to play jack (imo)

00:12:959 (12959|3) - AH ! Found one you forgot to add a finish :p (i think)

00:13:165 (13165|0) - I'm not sure about this LN, it does not match the voice starting earlier, and happen when the battery is on fire, what about having one or two double between 00:13:165 and 00:13:781 instead ?

00:24:055 (24055|0,24261|2) - You are oftenly starting from left to right, i think you should add some variation and find something going from right to left here

00:24:877 (24877|1) - Clap here

00:29:809 (29809|0) + 00:42:959 (42959|1) - I would make it an LN because its the end of the musical phrase and it emphasize the other simple notes

Great diff, with good kiai time and fun parts. I dont have many things to say about the mapping so instead i had fun clicking on all the notes to see if you forgot/added to much hitsounds xD

Lefrave's Normal

00:01:658 (1658|1) - At 2 to keep with the alternates you did after

00:10:494 (10494|1) - I think this should be on 0 because just before at 00:10:083 (10083|1) you have that all-in battery stuff, so you dont want the following white beat to be linked with the rest by a stair. (Of course that means remapping a bit the following)

00:13:165 (13165|1,13370|0,13576|3) - Maybe claps are enough here no finish

00:25:596 - I think you should add a note here

00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|3) - You should keep those 2 with no hitsounds

00:42:548 (42548|3,42651|2,42754|1) + 00:42:548 (42548|3,42651|2,42754|1) - Why changing the gimmick you had for the battery now ? Like you did for example at 00:29:398 (29398|3,29500|1,29603|2)

00:29:809 + 00:42:959 - Same remark as Easy diff (about having a LN here)

Really enjoyable kiai with good red lines following the battery, good work overall

Hard

00:03:713 (3713|3) - What about moving it at 1 ? To have the same jack you did at 00:06:795

00:09:877 (9877|0) - Would move it at 2 to keep the same jack feeling as 00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1)

00:13:267 (13267|2,13473|1,13678|1) - Not sure you should use claps on those 1/4

00:16:555 (16555|1) - I have lot of doubts about this clap (o-o"

00:20:048 (20048|1,20254|2) - Same about the 1/4 claps

00:23:130 (23130|2) - Clap here too, i think those clap on 1/4 are too much...

Okay so this is getting repetitive so i will just list below all the clap son 1/4 so if you decided to remove them you wont have to search for them
00:25:596 (25596|1,25802|1,26213|2,26624|2,26829|1,29500|3,32788|3,34432|2,36076|3,38747|1,39158|1,39363|2,39569|2,39774|1,42651|3,45939|3,47583|3,49226|3,52514|2,52720|1,53130|2)

00:28:370 (28370|2) - Move it at 1, the 00:27:548 (27548|2,27754|2,28165|2,28370|2,28781|2) combination make the column a bit unbalance in my sense

00:41:521 (41521|2) - Would move it at 3 to have the same feeling as 00:40:494 (40494|1,40494|0,40699|1)

00:29:809 + 00:42:959 - Same remark as the two others diff (maybe you decided that is not a good idea and you find this repetitive xD)

Comment

Insane

Maybe renaming it to Hard+ or something, this not really an insane difficulty

00:04:124 (4124|2) - This should be at 3 to keep that double + jack you did at the beginning

00:07:000 (7000|2,7103|1) - Maybe CTRL+H those 2 for the symetry with 00:03:713

00:07:206 (7206|0) - No whilste here you had one at 00:06:795 (6795|0)

00:10:083 (10083|0) - I dont think you should have the clap+whistle here
00:18:302 (18302|0) - Same here

00:30:630 - Here i would add a note at 2 for triple and move 00:30:836 (30836|1) to 3

00:31:452 - I was expected a triple here

00:45:220 - I dont see any reason for a double here

00:29:809 + 00:42:959 - I think you know what im talking about here now xD

I had fun playing this difficulty too, great mapping with good difficulty balance and fun ideas. Get it to rank !

Its my first attempt with hitsounding so i do appreciate all the help you have given with that, and the vast majority of what you have posted i have implemented in the actual song, Solid mod, thanks buddy ^u^

Koibenii

267 posts

Joined March 2013

Koibenii 2017-04-19T15:00:03+00:00

Hi! o/ Mod requested from queue

[General]
I would suggest to untick widescreen support for the bg resolution to not change when switching client resolutions. (unless you have a storyboard or smth)

1|2|3|4

Ok so i'm gonna mod the last 2 diffs, just as you requested

I just hope I could find some lmao

[Hard]

00:02:891 (2891|1,3096|2) - i'm assuming that you're mapping the LNs to the guitar at the bg, so 00:03:096 (3096|2) this LN has to be removed because I didn't hear any guitar strums anymore at 00:03:096 and 00:02:891 (2891|1) this LN has to be extended to 00:03:507. It would look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867439 also, I forgot to mention that you have to re-arrange some notes.

00:05:767 (5767|2,5973|2,5973|1,6178|1,6178|3,6384|2,6384|3) - okay so this set of notes has a lot of shields, in which is hard to play for a Hard diff. Pattern suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867465

00:07:000 (7000|2) - also, after applying the mod above this you might want to move this to [1]

00:10:494 (10494|1) - I think this LN should end at 00:10:802 and 00:10:904 (10904|3) this LN should start at the same time, like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867485 but kindly adjust the hitsounds LOL

00:14:500 (14500|1) - unnecessary note imo.

00:52:720 (52720|1,52822|0) - pattern suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867505 for a more roll-y feel

[Insane]

Okay so I won't point out some of the shields in this diff anymore because it is excusable xd

00:10:083 (10083|3,10083|0,10083|2) - should only be a double tbh

00:23:028 (23028|3) - another unnecessary LN imo, and 00:22:617 (22617|0) this LN should be extended up to 00:23:644, which would look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867548 merely a pattern suggestion, still up to you to apply

00:36:384 (36384|0,36384|3) - should be a triple, since you did the same at 00:35:562 (35562|0,35562|3,35562|1) which has the same hitsounds.

00:39:774 (39774|1,39877|0,39980|1,40083|3,40083|2,40083|0) - would re-arrange this into: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867586 to prevent the anchor at 00:39:158 (39158|1,39363|1,39569|1,39774|1,39980|1)

I think that would be it for my mod. I hope my mod helped. Goodluck in ranking this!!

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-04-19T15:46:52+00:00

JztCallMeRon wrote:
Hi! o/ Mod requested from queue

[General]
I would suggest to untick widescreen support for the bg resolution to not change when switching client resolutions. (unless you have a storyboard or smth)

1|2|3|4

Ok so i'm gonna mod the last 2 diffs, just as you requested I just hope I could find some lmao

[Hard]
00:02:891 (2891|1,3096|2) - i'm assuming that you're mapping the LNs to the guitar at the bg, so 00:03:096 (3096|2) this LN has to be removed because I didn't hear any guitar strums anymore at 00:03:096 and 00:02:891 (2891|1) this LN has to be extended to 00:03:507. It would look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867439 also, I forgot to mention that you have to re-arrange some notes.

Hmm, this took alot of consideration, I decided not to mess with it, after the second guitar theres a lingering echo like sound which is covered by the ln, ill put this to the side and possibly see what other people think

00:05:767 (5767|2,5973|2,5973|1,6178|1,6178|3,6384|2,6384|3) - okay so this set of notes has a lot of shields, in which is hard to play for a Hard diff. Pattern suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867465

personally i dont think its a big deal but your not the first person to have pointed that out to me so ive changed it ^u^

00:07:000 (7000|2) - also, after applying the mod above this you might want to move this to [1]

agreed

00:10:494 (10494|1) - I think this LN should end at 00:10:802 and 00:10:904 (10904|3) this LN should start at the same time, like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867485 but kindly adjust the hitsounds LOL

this one hurts me, i know ill probably need to change this (how it is, is consistant with the prior patterning but i get why your saying this) after a bit of testing i couldnt get it to sound right. ill most likely resolve this later but rn my brain hurts

00:14:500 (14500|1) - unnecessary note imo.

agreed, re-arranged pattern a bit to fit this

00:52:720 (52720|1,52822|0) - pattern suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867505 for a more roll-y feel

Not a fan on how that feels to play, makes it feel really boring imo
[Insane]
Okay so I won't point out some of the shields in this diff anymore because it is excusable xd

00:10:083 (10083|3,10083|0,10083|2) - should only be a double tbh

good point

00:23:028 (23028|3) - another unnecessary LN imo, and 00:22:617 (22617|0) this LN should be extended up to 00:23:644, which would look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867548 merely a pattern suggestion, still up to you to apply

Very heavily contemplated but i did in the end implement this, similar to how you showed but not exact

00:36:384 (36384|0,36384|3) - should be a triple, since you did the same at 00:35:562 (35562|0,35562|3,35562|1) which has the same hitsounds.

i got you

00:39:774 (39774|1,39877|0,39980|1,40083|3,40083|2,40083|0) - would re-arrange this into: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7867586 to prevent the anchor at 00:39:158 (39158|1,39363|1,39569|1,39774|1,39980|1)

i feel that it matters alot less because of the jumptrills, ill be sure to get a second opinion on that one
I think that would be it for my mod. I hope my mod helped. Goodluck in ranking this!!

Thanks alot, this mod was pretty solid, everything had a valid point to be put in, hence why i commented on this one, thanks for the help ^u^

Captain Cusheen

222 posts

Joined October 2016

Captain Cusheen 2017-05-19T06:22:40+00:00

M4M

ayy

Ez

00:27:754 (27754|0) - move to collumn 4
00:28:987 (28987|1) - move to collumn 3

NM

Pretty nice

HD

00:38:644 (38644|2,38747|1) - Ctrl + H

Insane

00:25:288 - to 00:26:829 -
did not feel the drum feeling uwu change it please

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-05-29T15:38:21+00:00

Captain Cusheen wrote:
M4M

ayy
Ez
00:27:754 (27754|0) - move to collumn 4
00:28:987 (28987|1) - move to collumn 3
NM
Pretty nice
HD
00:38:644 (38644|2,38747|1) - Ctrl + H
Insane
00:25:288 - to 00:26:829 -
did not feel the drum feeling uwu change it please

All but insane was changed

not sure what you mean by you dont get the drum feeling, i replayed it a bit and i could feel the drums pretty well, if theres something specific could you possibly pm me about that? id like to have this get better aha,

Thanks for the mod

Syadow-

Beatmap Nominator

1,540 posts

Joined October 2013

Syadow- 2017-05-29T21:28:36+00:00

Wao starring star :v
~~Marked for mod~~
mod mod

Easy

00:00:631 - double for emphasis cymbal

00:07:206 - double

00:15:014 (15014|1,15425|0) - better to swap col here for pitch

00:25:288 (25288|2,25699|1) - u can change this to LN to cover drum roll

00:26:932 - cymbal, double

Normal

00:19:946 (19946|3,20151|2) - maybe u can change to single LN here

00:28:781 (28781|0) - move to col 3

00:28:987 (28987|1) - move to col 1

00:42:959 - i suggest to make this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8258076 more balance

Hard

00:15:220 (15220|3,15425|2,15425|0,15631|1) - ctrl h more balance

00:43:781 (43781|2,43987|3) - ctrl j n 00:44:192 (44192|1) - move to 1

Insane

00:19:740 (19740|3) - change toLN like 00:12:343 (12343|2,12754|3) -

sorry little mod ;w; good luck >w<)b
love this song, shoot a star <33

Last edited by Syadow- 2017-06-04T04:06:28+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

DDMythical

DDMythical 2017-06-01T17:50:48+00:00

1 / 2 / 3 / 4

Easy

00:32:069 (32069|2) - Why do you decide to stop following the drum here and go off with the vocals? -- You can follow both at the same time and still have it be easy enough for this diff.
00:53:233 (53233|0) - If you listen carefully here, you can hear that the sound does not end there but instead on the white tick above it. Please extend the LN.

Lefrave's Normal

00:01:658 (1658|1) - Move this to 3. (Reasoning: You make this a one handed only trill; but on the next sound with almost the exact same melody you make it into an anchored trill. For consistency you should make this into an anchored trill aswell. Plus one handed trills look bad and play bad on normals.)
00:45:630 (45630|2) - Move to 4; The column is left rather empty for no specific reason (i.e. there's no layering tricks here)
00:53:233 (53233|3,53233|0) - If you listen carefully here, you can hear that the sound does not end there but instead on the white tick above it. Please extend the LN.

Hard

00:09:672 (9672|1) - Move to 3; You don't have a 'Jack' like this any other time in this melody so why here?
00:15:014 (15014|1,15220|1,15425|2,15631|2,15836|1,16041|1) - ??? There's no musical justification behind this
00:18:713 (18713|1) - Move to 1 as the column gets empty.
00:52:206 (52206|1,52411|1) - No reason...

Insane

00:29:192 (29192|3) - Another random 'jack'. (There are lots of these in the chorus; I recommend changing all of them.)
00:29:398 (29398|2,29398|0,29500|3,29500|1,29603|2) - Repattern this; It's really uncomfortable. (There are lots of these in the chorus; I recommend changing all of them.)

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-06-02T09:57:02+00:00

DDMythical wrote:
1 / 2 / 3 / 4
Easy
00:32:069 (32069|2) - Why do you decide to stop following the drum here and go off with the vocals? -- You can follow both at the same time and still have it be easy enough for this diff.

i chose to map as little on the side of lns as i could due to it being an "easy" diff, ill still consider the change but right now i think its fine

00:53:233 (53233|0) - If you listen carefully here, you can hear that the sound does not end there but instead on the white tick above it. Please extend the LN.
i think is fine, but I extended it

Lefrave's Normal
00:01:658 (1658|1) - Move this to 3. (Reasoning: You make this a one handed only trill; but on the next sound with almost the exact same melody you make it into an anchored trill. For consistency you should make this into an anchored trill aswell. Plus one handed trills look bad and play bad on normals.)

thats fine, fixed

00:45:630 (45630|2) - Move to 4; The column is left rather empty for no specific reason (i.e. there's no layering tricks here)

I get that, fixed

00:53:233 (53233|3,53233|0) - If you listen carefully here, you can hear that the sound does not end there but instead on the white tick above it. Please extend the LN.

as above

Hard
00:09:672 (9672|1) - Move to 3; You don't have a 'Jack' like this any other time in this melody so why here?

i have just a bit before, and its also to prepare you for the difficulty above, i think its fine how it is

00:15:014 (15014|1,15220|1,15425|2,15631|2,15836|1,16041|1) - ??? There's no musical justification behind this

fixed

00:18:713 (18713|1) - Move to 1 as the column gets empty.

column 4 is questionably emptier, its fine as it is i think

00:52:206 (52206|1,52411|1) - No reason...

theres a beat there, thats justified imo

Insane
00:29:192 (29192|3) - Another random 'jack'. (There are lots of these in the chorus; I recommend changing all of them.)

the difficulty has jacks as its suppose to be harder, the hard difficulty introduced some now its time to put them to use

00:29:398 (29398|2,29398|0,29500|3,29500|1,29603|2) - Repattern this; It's really uncomfortable. (There are lots of these in the chorus; I recommend changing all of them.)

i get what your saying but this feels fine to play, if more people comment ill consider reworking the pattern but it looks and feels fine to me

thanks for the mod ^^

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-06-04T14:00:09+00:00

Syadow- wrote:
Wao starring star :v
~~Marked for mod~~
mod mod
Easy
00:00:631 - double for emphasis cymbal

00:07:206 - double

00:15:014 (15014|1,15425|0) - better to swap col here for pitch

00:25:288 (25288|2,25699|1) - u can change this to LN to cover drum roll

00:26:932 - cymbal, double

all changes were accepted, also added more doubles for single crashes
Normal
00:19:946 (19946|3,20151|2) - maybe u can change to single LN here

you can hear 2 different sounds, i disagree with having a single ln

00:28:781 (28781|0) - move to col 3

00:28:987 (28987|1) - move to col 1

Sure (the above 2)

00:42:959 - i suggest to make this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8258076 more balance

ill look into the balance part of the one above currently i think its okay but ill look more into it
Hard
00:15:220 (15220|3,15425|2,15425|0,15631|1) - ctrl h more balance

okay

00:43:781 (43781|2,43987|3) - ctrl j n 00:44:192 (44192|1) - move to 1

I think i did that ^
Insane
00:19:740 (19740|3) - change toLN like 00:12:343 (12343|2,12754|3) -

I disagree, the sounds are a bit different and it wouldnt work with the notes coming after

sorry little mod ;w; good luck >w<)b
love this song, shoot a star <33

Thanks for the star <3

[Ping]

499 posts

Joined April 2015

[Ping] 2017-06-09T15:25:43+00:00

Hey I feel sorry for forgetting about what you said and put my maps in your mod queue, so, I will mod you

Lefrave's Normal

00:24:055 , 00:24:261 , 00:25:288 these should be double notes
00:49:946 - from here on out you suddenly change your way of handling heaviness (from a double note every two room to a double every room) pls change this to fix consistency

Hard

00:10:904 - pls try to add an extra note here
00:16:658 - this should be double notes

Insane

00:10:083 should be a triple note
00:40:083 use LN on column 1

also gonna shoot one star for this map too

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-06-10T06:53:50+00:00

TheNewBungping wrote:
Hey I feel sorry for forgetting about what you said and put my maps in your mod queue, so, I will mod you

Lefrave's Normal
00:24:055 , 00:24:261 , 00:25:288 these should be double notes i dont think so
00:49:946 - from here on out you suddenly change your way of handling heaviness (from a double note every two room to a double every room) pls change this to fix consistency I dont quite get what you mean here?

Hard
00:10:904 - pls try to add an extra note here I really would of thought i would of seen this one, thanks
00:16:658 - this should be double notes I agree

Insane
00:10:083 should be a triple note I dont think so
00:40:083 use LN on column 1 For consistancies sake i probably should

also gonna shoot one star for this map too

Thanks for the mod ^^

Rivals_7

Beatmap Nominator

2,979 posts

Joined July 2014

Rivals_7 2017-06-14T04:16:31+00:00

1234

[E]

00:05:973 (5973|2,6178|3,6384|1,6589|0) - if u want to make this kinda symmetrical and reflect the last section - 00:02:891 (2891|0,3096|1,3302|2,3507|0) - . the arrangement should be somewhat like this - https://puu.sh/wjrTk/e606fc089c.png

00:17:480 (17480|3) - move to 3 as it looks kinda heavy to handle some notes at 4

00:24:466 (24466|1,24877|1,25083|0,25494|0,25699|1) - you should probably know hows this works out with this kind of hand balance. try to rearrange them

00:27:343 (27343|1,27548|2) - move to 3|1 respectively. see - 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - and col 1 that looks pretty empty

00:32:891 (32891|1,33096|3) - 3|1 respectively. this - 00:31:863 (31863|3,33096|3,33507|3,33918|3) - is not a thing that i would like to see in Easy

00:40:083 (40083|2,40288|1,40494|2) - 2|3|1 respectively. things like - 00:39:672 (39672|3,39672|2,40083|2) - are not really friendly to handle properly for newbies

00:52:411 (52411|0,52617|1,52822|3,53028|2) - this is rather tricky. either make them SNs or just a single LN

[Lefrave]

00:07:206 (7206|1,7617|1,8028|1,8439|1,8850|1) - eh idk. this is rather painful for someone who just gradually play from EZ

00:09:261 (9261|0,9466|1,9672|0) - pls refrain from doing this in EZ and NM, ever. this Broke the intuitiveness and flow in lower difficulties. try to rearrange those notes around

00:11:521 (11521|1) - move to 1 since its rather empty

00:17:069 (17069|1) - any reason why is this LN got less length than the others?

[H]

00:03:507 (3507|1,3713|1) - dunno why is this even stacked. refer - 00:06:795 (6795|2,7000|0) -

00:10:494 (10494|1,10904|3,11110|2) - is this guitar or vocal?

00:22:411 (22411|0) - not doubling this?

00:24:672 (24672|3,24877|2,24877|3,25083|2) - 2 jacks in the same hand in a row is not really recommended. try to rearrange somehow

00:38:439 (38439|1,38644|1) - why stacked? its not even vocal related that you always do since now

00:52:206 (52206|1,52411|1) - not vocal related. so move - 00:52:000 (52000|2,52206|1) - to 1|3 respectively

[I]

00:04:740 (4740|2,4946|1) - this one should be stacked and this - 00:04:329 (4329|0,4535|0) - one shouldnt. refer - 00:01:041 (1041|1,1041|0,1247|3,1452|0,1452|2,1658|0) -

00:05:151 (5151|2,5357|2) - refer section before since its stil revolve around the same vocal and instrument structure

00:19:329 (19329|0,19535|0) - idk.... how are you going to layer your jack across this diff? some like that (stack before doubles) but some are like this - 00:17:891 (17891|1,18096|1,18302|3,18507|3,18713|2,18918|2) - (stack after doubles) even though the instrument remain consistent. you didnt seem to prioritize vocal either since those jacks are irrelevant with the vocal pitch entirely

i really have no problem with your noise structure. all i concern is the jack layering being inconsistent across this diff which is needs to be addressed to make a sensible pattern that represent the song correctly

GL for now though o/

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-06-14T09:50:26+00:00

Rivals_7 wrote:
1234

[E]

00:05:973 (5973|2,6178|3,6384|1,6589|0) - if u want to make this kinda symmetrical and reflect the last section - 00:02:891 (2891|0,3096|1,3302|2,3507|0) - . the arrangement should be somewhat like this - https://puu.sh/wjrTk/e606fc089c.png

Done

00:17:480 (17480|3) - move to 3 as it looks kinda heavy to handle some notes at 4

Makes sense

00:24:466 (24466|1,24877|1,25083|0,25494|0,25699|1) - you should probably know hows this works out with this kind of hand balance. try to rearrange them

Yeah i got you XD

00:27:343 (27343|1,27548|2) - move to 3|1 respectively. see - 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - and col 1 that looks pretty empty

Cool

00:32:891 (32891|1,33096|3) - 3|1 respectively. this - 00:31:863 (31863|3,33096|3,33507|3,33918|3) - is not a thing that i would like to see in Easy

i didnt think there were any, thanks ^^

00:40:083 (40083|2,40288|1,40494|2) - 2|3|1 respectively. things like - 00:39:672 (39672|3,39672|2,40083|2) - are not really friendly to handle properly for newbies

Thats fair

00:52:411 (52411|0,52617|1,52822|3,53028|2) - this is rather tricky. either make them SNs or just a single LN

made it into 1 ln

[Lefrave]

00:07:206 (7206|1,7617|1,8028|1,8439|1,8850|1) - eh idk. this is rather painful for someone who just gradually play from EZ

Yep, thats been completely re-arranged

00:09:261 (9261|0,9466|1,9672|0) - pls refrain from doing this in EZ and NM, ever. this Broke the intuitiveness and flow in lower difficulties. try to rearrange those notes around

Fixed all of them? should be all of em

00:11:521 (11521|1) - move to 1 since its rather empty

all done

00:17:069 (17069|1) - any reason why is this LN got less length than the others?

lengthened the ln

[H]

00:03:507 (3507|1,3713|1) - dunno why is this even stacked. refer - 00:06:795 (6795|2,7000|0) -

Fixed

00:10:494 (10494|1,10904|3,11110|2) - is this guitar or vocal?

guitar?

00:22:411 (22411|0) - not doubling this?

doubled

00:24:672 (24672|3,24877|2,24877|3,25083|2) - 2 jacks in the same hand in a row is not really recommended. try to rearrange somehow

re-arranged

00:38:439 (38439|1,38644|1) - why stacked? its not even vocal related that you always do since now

pretty sure i fixed this

00:52:206 (52206|1,52411|1) - not vocal related. so move - 00:52:000 (52000|2,52206|1) - to 1|3 respectively

fixed
[I]

00:04:740 (4740|2,4946|1) - this one should be stacked and this - 00:04:329 (4329|0,4535|0) - one shouldnt. refer - 00:01:041 (1041|1,1041|0,1247|3,1452|0,1452|2,1658|0) -

yep fixed that

00:05:151 (5151|2,5357|2) - refer section before since its stil revolve around the same vocal and instrument structure

I think i fixed this

00:19:329 (19329|0,19535|0) - idk.... how are you going to layer your jack across this diff? some like that (stack before doubles) but some are like this - 00:17:891 (17891|1,18096|1,18302|3,18507|3,18713|2,18918|2) - (stack after doubles) even though the instrument remain consistent. you didnt seem to prioritize vocal either since those jacks are irrelevant with the vocal pitch entirely

i didnt notice how ive been switching jacks, did my best to make that alot more consistant, hopefully thats better now

i really have no problem with your noise structure. all i concern is the jack layering being inconsistent across this diff which is needs to be addressed to make a sensible pattern that represent the song correctly

consistancy is a major problem for me, hopefully it will be a bit better now ^^

GL for now though o/

Thanks<3

Maxus

Nomination Assessment Team

1,283 posts

Joined May 2014

Maxus 2017-07-10T09:37:14+00:00

some irc

15:16 CrumpetFiddler: hello
15:17 Maxus: hai
15:17 CrumpetFiddler: ^^
15:18 Maxus: :3
15:20 CrumpetFiddler: would you be able to testplay one of my maps (*^^*)
15:21 Maxus: what map :o
15:21 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
15:22 CrumpetFiddler: i made it a while ago and alot of people seem to like it XD
15:24 Maxus: ah dragonball.. rip universe 9
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: XD
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: your following along?
15:24 Maxus: nope, only brief look wkwk
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: o
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: rip
15:25 Maxus: dat feeling when hardest diff is vegeta not goku
15:25 *Maxus is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
15:25 CrumpetFiddler: XD
15:26 CrumpetFiddler: Before i had naming conventions, like goku's hard, vegeta's insane which fit better at the time
15:27 Maxus: i think others agree that goku should be the hardest /run
15:27 Maxus: anyway, the map seem good, but i think there could be variation improvement
15:27 Maxus: let me see
15:27 CrumpetFiddler: reckon its worth changing the names around?
15:28 CrumpetFiddler: well
15:28 CrumpetFiddler: i guess images
15:29 Maxus: (if you want to make that diff name, i recommend following [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/499154 it like this]
15:29 CrumpetFiddler: state the key, difficulty, then a name?
15:29 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
15:29 CrumpetFiddler: i might just do that
15:29 Maxus: ah don't state the key
15:30 Maxus: unless it's multiple key
15:30 Maxus: in your case it's only 4 ey
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: makes sense
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: i didnt think i could
15:30 Maxus: so, the difficulty, and the char name
15:30 Maxus: i think like Normal 'Beerus'
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: oh
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: because thats a gd
15:31 CrumpetFiddler: how do you imcorperate the gders name into that?
15:31 Maxus: you don't.. if you plan to add char name, you don't put GD'ers name
15:32 CrumpetFiddler: oh
15:32 CrumpetFiddler: coolio
15:32 Maxus: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/399702 like this map
15:32 Maxus: 00:01:452 - btw, felt like this is inbalance.. move 00:01:452 (1452|2) - to col 4
15:33 Maxus: 00:02:274 - 00:02:685 - This should be reduced the note amount.. since double notes +LN is too much for mere kick
15:34 Maxus: 00:05:973 - Hmm you suddenly not jacking this when you already jack all the notes from 00:03:918 - to 00:05:767 - , so the structure is inconsistent here
15:36 Maxus: 00:03:096 - kinda forgot to mention, if you want to follow vocal with LN before, this should be too.. 
15:37 Maxus: 00:18:302 (18302|3,18507|3,18713|2,18918|2,19124|3,19329|3) - The jack is inbalance here, if you see the amount note between left and right it's also inbalance, you should balance them
15:37 CrumpetFiddler: i fixed that one already, after you mentioned the others :3
15:38 Maxus: so which one you fix ? xd
15:38 CrumpetFiddler: all of them
15:38 Maxus: okay xd
15:38 CrumpetFiddler: i went thru the intro and checked em all
15:38 CrumpetFiddler: there was alot ;-;
15:39 Maxus: 00:20:767 - I understand you want to make variation, however the vocal that held through this section is actually all same intensity, so it's confusing if you suddenly single LN , double LN, single LN again
15:39 Maxus: I think it still alright if you make all single, it still great emphasis
15:39 Maxus: yeah srry ;-;
15:40 CrumpetFiddler: nah its fine
15:40 CrumpetFiddler: i intend to rank the map, so ill make it objectively as good as it can get
15:41 Maxus: ok i will try state the thing i really think needs to be changed instead of subjective one xd
15:41 CrumpetFiddler: XD
15:41 Maxus: 00:24:055 - the intensity of this one is already differ from 00:24:672 - (i mean, like the drum is lower, and suddenly get "exploding)
15:41 Maxus: 00:24:055 (24055|0,24055|2,24055|3,24261|3,24261|0,24261|1,24466|2,24466|3,24466|0) - so, these three triple chords should be double chord
15:41 Maxus: to reflect the build up of the drum
15:43 CrumpetFiddler: that feels better too https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554520
15:44 Maxus: hmm i think the 1-4 double flows better if you put at col 2-3?
15:44 CrumpetFiddler: that it does
15:45 Maxus: 00:29:398 - 00:29:809 - There's actually synth sound which you can put LN as detterent to give variation. like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554529
15:46 Maxus: 00:31:863 - There's actually 4 synth here instead of only one, at 00:32:274 - 00:32:685 - 00:33:096 - have synth changes for every 1/1 beat which you can use LN to express that
15:47 CrumpetFiddler: would it be better to do that do you think?
15:48 Maxus: yeah, as you expresses the synth more accurately, you also give more variation which gives more color into the map
15:48 Maxus: it is vital as other BN also want the map to have variation too
15:48 CrumpetFiddler: despite how realtively old i am to mapping im still pretty shit XD
15:49 Maxus: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554536 This is the example of the synth express xd
15:49 Maxus: well as you learn how to express instrument better you will get better xd
15:49 CrumpetFiddler: i see what you mean tho
15:50 CrumpetFiddler: the subtle synths they feel right
15:51 Maxus: 00:39:261 - I felt this one actually same drum as the 00:25:699 - (the section also the same, right before entering the next kiai)
15:52 Maxus: so i think you should make them consistent in drum layering
15:52 CrumpetFiddler: just single notes yhou think?
15:53 Maxus: you can choose between using jumpstream or jumptrill, however if you already choose, make it consistent within similar drum sound
15:54 Maxus: 00:42:548 - 00:42:959 - make the LN similar with what i told you at 00:29:398 - 
15:55 Maxus: however, the player / our audience tend to hate jumptrill based map, so you might wanna reduce the amount of jumptrill imo
15:55 Maxus: however it's still subjective to an extent
15:55 CrumpetFiddler: that makes me sad XD
15:55 Maxus: yeah sometimes my map also get bashed of jumptrill simulator lel
15:55 Maxus: unless you're prepared of that, you might wanna choose jumpstream imo wkkw
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: in a sense tho
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: idrm
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: i have tons of maps i plan to keep unranked with plenty of cheeky jumptrills
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
15:57 Maxus: practice map :p 
15:58 Maxus: 00:45:014 - might also make LNs like 00:31:863 - 
15:58 CrumpetFiddler: i did kokonatsu and usao map
15:58 CrumpetFiddler: im happy XD
15:58 Maxus: that's nice :3
15:58 CrumpetFiddler: yeah im working on that one now
15:59 CrumpetFiddler: while fixing that
16:00 CrumpetFiddler: i think there was one 1/1 without a hitsound
16:00 CrumpetFiddler: good thing you pointed that out
16:00 Maxus: 00:45:939 (45939|0,46041|1,46247|0,46452|1,46658|0,46863|1,47069|0,47274|1,47480|0,47583|1) - a bit advice, you might wanna avoid OH trill too long when mapping unless for clear trill instrument, as it usually doesn't reflect instrument well with trill, and it potentially makes the pattern awkward
16:01 Maxus: i didn't really point the hs xd
16:01 CrumpetFiddler: i never noticed that
16:02 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554579 changed to this
16:02 Maxus: yeah if it's too long it's usually becoming noticeable imo
16:02 Maxus: yeah that's quite good 
16:03 CrumpetFiddler: if your curious as to why i spoke to you out of the blue, asher recommended you to me a few days ago :3
16:04 CrumpetFiddler: me to you*
16:04 CrumpetFiddler: idk
16:04 Maxus: ah i see asherz , he also req me a couple days ago :3
16:04 CrumpetFiddler: yeah XD normally i speak to protastic but she despises my song choices ehe
16:05 Maxus: you should choose more loli and kawaii voice /run
16:05 CrumpetFiddler: does edm jumpers count?
16:05 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242241 Camellia feat. Nanahira - EDM Jumpers]
16:06 CrumpetFiddler: thats no where near ready but after starring star ill be working on that
16:06 Maxus: It should be, no one would hate loli voice /run
16:06 Maxus: anyway i think it covers the tips to improve the map ^^
16:07 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah ill probably move those synths over to the Hard diff aswell

Good luck with the map!

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-07-10T09:39:47+00:00

Maxus wrote:

some irc

15:16 CrumpetFiddler: hello
15:17 Maxus: hai
15:17 CrumpetFiddler: ^^
15:18 Maxus: :3
15:20 CrumpetFiddler: would you be able to testplay one of my maps (*^^*)
15:21 Maxus: what map :o
15:21 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
15:22 CrumpetFiddler: i made it a while ago and alot of people seem to like it XD
15:24 Maxus: ah dragonball.. rip universe 9
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: XD
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: your following along?
15:24 Maxus: nope, only brief look wkwk
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: o
15:24 CrumpetFiddler: rip
15:25 Maxus: dat feeling when hardest diff is vegeta not goku
15:25 *Maxus is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star]
15:25 CrumpetFiddler: XD
15:26 CrumpetFiddler: Before i had naming conventions, like goku's hard, vegeta's insane which fit better at the time
15:27 Maxus: i think others agree that goku should be the hardest /run
15:27 Maxus: anyway, the map seem good, but i think there could be variation improvement
15:27 Maxus: let me see
15:27 CrumpetFiddler: reckon its worth changing the names around?
15:28 CrumpetFiddler: well
15:28 CrumpetFiddler: i guess images
15:29 Maxus: (if you want to make that diff name, i recommend following [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/499154 it like this]
15:29 CrumpetFiddler: state the key, difficulty, then a name?
15:29 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
15:29 CrumpetFiddler: i might just do that
15:29 Maxus: ah don't state the key
15:30 Maxus: unless it's multiple key
15:30 Maxus: in your case it's only 4 ey
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: makes sense
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: i didnt think i could
15:30 Maxus: so, the difficulty, and the char name
15:30 Maxus: i think like Normal 'Beerus'
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: oh
15:30 CrumpetFiddler: because thats a gd
15:31 CrumpetFiddler: how do you imcorperate the gders name into that?
15:31 Maxus: you don't.. if you plan to add char name, you don't put GD'ers name
15:32 CrumpetFiddler: oh
15:32 CrumpetFiddler: coolio
15:32 Maxus: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/399702 like this map
15:32 Maxus: 00:01:452 - btw, felt like this is inbalance.. move 00:01:452 (1452|2) - to col 4
15:33 Maxus: 00:02:274 - 00:02:685 - This should be reduced the note amount.. since double notes +LN is too much for mere kick
15:34 Maxus: 00:05:973 - Hmm you suddenly not jacking this when you already jack all the notes from 00:03:918 - to 00:05:767 - , so the structure is inconsistent here
15:36 Maxus: 00:03:096 - kinda forgot to mention, if you want to follow vocal with LN before, this should be too.. 
15:37 Maxus: 00:18:302 (18302|3,18507|3,18713|2,18918|2,19124|3,19329|3) - The jack is inbalance here, if you see the amount note between left and right it's also inbalance, you should balance them
15:37 CrumpetFiddler: i fixed that one already, after you mentioned the others :3
15:38 Maxus: so which one you fix ? xd
15:38 CrumpetFiddler: all of them
15:38 Maxus: okay xd
15:38 CrumpetFiddler: i went thru the intro and checked em all
15:38 CrumpetFiddler: there was alot ;-;
15:39 Maxus: 00:20:767 - I understand you want to make variation, however the vocal that held through this section is actually all same intensity, so it's confusing if you suddenly single LN , double LN, single LN again
15:39 Maxus: I think it still alright if you make all single, it still great emphasis
15:39 Maxus: yeah srry ;-;
15:40 CrumpetFiddler: nah its fine
15:40 CrumpetFiddler: i intend to rank the map, so ill make it objectively as good as it can get
15:41 Maxus: ok i will try state the thing i really think needs to be changed instead of subjective one xd
15:41 CrumpetFiddler: XD
15:41 Maxus: 00:24:055 - the intensity of this one is already differ from 00:24:672 - (i mean, like the drum is lower, and suddenly get "exploding)
15:41 Maxus: 00:24:055 (24055|0,24055|2,24055|3,24261|3,24261|0,24261|1,24466|2,24466|3,24466|0) - so, these three triple chords should be double chord
15:41 Maxus: to reflect the build up of the drum
15:43 CrumpetFiddler: that feels better too https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554520
15:44 Maxus: hmm i think the 1-4 double flows better if you put at col 2-3?
15:44 CrumpetFiddler: that it does
15:45 Maxus: 00:29:398 - 00:29:809 - There's actually synth sound which you can put LN as detterent to give variation. like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554529
15:46 Maxus: 00:31:863 - There's actually 4 synth here instead of only one, at 00:32:274 - 00:32:685 - 00:33:096 - have synth changes for every 1/1 beat which you can use LN to express that
15:47 CrumpetFiddler: would it be better to do that do you think?
15:48 Maxus: yeah, as you expresses the synth more accurately, you also give more variation which gives more color into the map
15:48 Maxus: it is vital as other BN also want the map to have variation too
15:48 CrumpetFiddler: despite how realtively old i am to mapping im still pretty shit XD
15:49 Maxus: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554536 This is the example of the synth express xd
15:49 Maxus: well as you learn how to express instrument better you will get better xd
15:49 CrumpetFiddler: i see what you mean tho
15:50 CrumpetFiddler: the subtle synths they feel right
15:51 Maxus: 00:39:261 - I felt this one actually same drum as the 00:25:699 - (the section also the same, right before entering the next kiai)
15:52 Maxus: so i think you should make them consistent in drum layering
15:52 CrumpetFiddler: just single notes yhou think?
15:53 Maxus: you can choose between using jumpstream or jumptrill, however if you already choose, make it consistent within similar drum sound
15:54 Maxus: 00:42:548 - 00:42:959 - make the LN similar with what i told you at 00:29:398 - 
15:55 Maxus: however, the player / our audience tend to hate jumptrill based map, so you might wanna reduce the amount of jumptrill imo
15:55 Maxus: however it's still subjective to an extent
15:55 CrumpetFiddler: that makes me sad XD
15:55 Maxus: yeah sometimes my map also get bashed of jumptrill simulator lel
15:55 Maxus: unless you're prepared of that, you might wanna choose jumpstream imo wkkw
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: in a sense tho
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: idrm
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: i have tons of maps i plan to keep unranked with plenty of cheeky jumptrills
15:56 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
15:57 Maxus: practice map :p 
15:58 Maxus: 00:45:014 - might also make LNs like 00:31:863 - 
15:58 CrumpetFiddler: i did kokonatsu and usao map
15:58 CrumpetFiddler: im happy XD
15:58 Maxus: that's nice :3
15:58 CrumpetFiddler: yeah im working on that one now
15:59 CrumpetFiddler: while fixing that
16:00 CrumpetFiddler: i think there was one 1/1 without a hitsound
16:00 CrumpetFiddler: good thing you pointed that out
16:00 Maxus: 00:45:939 (45939|0,46041|1,46247|0,46452|1,46658|0,46863|1,47069|0,47274|1,47480|0,47583|1) - a bit advice, you might wanna avoid OH trill too long when mapping unless for clear trill instrument, as it usually doesn't reflect instrument well with trill, and it potentially makes the pattern awkward
16:01 Maxus: i didn't really point the hs xd
16:01 CrumpetFiddler: i never noticed that
16:02 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8554579 changed to this
16:02 Maxus: yeah if it's too long it's usually becoming noticeable imo
16:02 Maxus: yeah that's quite good 
16:03 CrumpetFiddler: if your curious as to why i spoke to you out of the blue, asher recommended you to me a few days ago :3
16:04 CrumpetFiddler: me to you*
16:04 CrumpetFiddler: idk
16:04 Maxus: ah i see asherz , he also req me a couple days ago :3
16:04 CrumpetFiddler: yeah XD normally i speak to protastic but she despises my song choices ehe
16:05 Maxus: you should choose more loli and kawaii voice /run
16:05 CrumpetFiddler: does edm jumpers count?
16:05 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242241 Camellia feat. Nanahira - EDM Jumpers]
16:06 CrumpetFiddler: thats no where near ready but after starring star ill be working on that
16:06 Maxus: It should be, no one would hate loli voice /run
16:06 Maxus: anyway i think it covers the tips to improve the map ^^
16:07 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah ill probably move those synths over to the Hard diff aswell

Good luck with the map!

Thanks alot for the irc man, the changes were needed <3 appreciated ^u^

Tectre

8 posts

Joined June 2016

Tectre 2017-07-11T12:19:13+00:00

So I modded it, but I didn't find much for me to pick. I found 1 issue though, and it occurred in each and every difficulty

Easy

00:53:644 (53644|3) - This note is out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. Change it to 00:53:619 (53619|3) -

Lefrave's Normal

00:53:644 (53644|1) - This note it out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This should be 00:53:619 (53619|1) -

Hard

00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|3) - This note is out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This should be 00:53:619 (53619|3,53619|2) -

Insane

00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|1) - These notes are a tad too late, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This timing fits better: 00:53:619 (53619|2,53619|1) -

All in all, a very good map, but ALWAYS be aware that songs that are live recorded and not electronically made (like this one) have a tendency to fall ever so slightly out of time.

Other than that, very well mapped, and quite enjoyable to play!
Good luck getting it ranked!

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-07-12T03:23:16+00:00

Tectre wrote:
So I modded it, but I didn't find much for me to pick. I found 1 issue though, and it occurred in each and every difficulty

Easy
00:53:644 (53644|3) - This note is out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. Change it to 00:53:619 (53619|3) -

Lefrave's Normal
00:53:644 (53644|1) - This note it out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This should be 00:53:619 (53619|1) -

Hard
00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|3) - This note is out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This should be 00:53:619 (53619|3,53619|2) -

Insane
00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|1) - These notes are a tad too late, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This timing fits better: 00:53:619 (53619|2,53619|1) -

All in all, a very good map, but ALWAYS be aware that songs that are live recorded and not electronically made (like this one) have a tendency to fall ever so slightly out of time.

Other than that, very well mapped, and quite enjoyable to play!
Good luck getting it ranked!

the song is mapped in 1/4, having a note out of place like that would be weird to play imo, thanks for the mod anyway bud <3

riunosk

1,136 posts

Joined January 2015

riunosk 2017-07-15T11:23:12+00:00

mod from queue 1234

ez

00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|2,26932|1) - can probably flip this so 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - doesnt stack on 1/1
00:39:672 (39672|2,40083|2,40494|2) - can probably try to avoid this
Great chart

le frave

00:08:850 (8850|2,9261|2,9672|2,10083|2) - can probably try to avoid this
00:12:446 (12446|2,12857|1) - what are these following?
00:49:535 (49535|0,49946|0,50357|0,50767|0,51178|0,51589|0,52000|0) - hm, since its 1/2, not sure if you want to keep it
Great chart

hrrrrrd

00:07:617 (7617|2,8028|2,8439|2,8850|2,9261|2) -

00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1) - any reason for this? (vocal maybe?)
00:16:452 (16452|3,16555|1,16658|2) - why not try making this more flowy?
00:19:329 (19329|2,19535|2) - same as ^^
00:24:261 (24261|2,24466|2,24672|2,24877|2) - ^
Decent chart, not sure why there are stacks

i should not be insane

00:34:329 (34329|2,34535|2,34740|2) - can probably avoid
00:49:124 (49124|2,49329|2,49535|2) - ^
00:49:740 (49740|1) - why not stack this right after a snare? that's the pattern i've been seeing so far
00:51:384 (51384|2) - ^
Decent chart

dagon bol
gud luk for renk

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-07-15T16:41:35+00:00

riunosk wrote:
mod from queue 1234
ez
00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|2,26932|1) - can probably flip this so 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - doesnt stack on 1/1 for consistancy ill leave it, not a big deal
00:39:672 (39672|2,40083|2,40494|2) - can probably try to avoid this I made it like the other one, and removed the next note to be consistant
Great chart
le frave
00:08:850 (8850|2,9261|2,9672|2,10083|2) - can probably try to avoid this agreed
00:12:446 (12446|2,12857|1) - what are these following? nothing but they look cool, fixed
00:49:535 (49535|0,49946|0,50357|0,50767|0,51178|0,51589|0,52000|0) - hm, since its 1/2, not sure if you want to keep it although im sure it wouldnt be a problem, i have moved them around just in case|
Great chart
hrrrrrd
00:07:617 (7617|2,8028|2,8439|2,8850|2,9261|2) - fixed
00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1) - any reason for this? (vocal maybe?) theres a kick
00:16:452 (16452|3,16555|1,16658|2) - why not try making this more flowy? that part feels fine
00:19:329 (19329|2,19535|2) - same as ^^ fixed
00:24:261 (24261|2,24466|2,24672|2,24877|2) - ^ fixed
Decent chart, not sure why there are stacks
i should not be insane
00:34:329 (34329|2,34535|2,34740|2) - can probably avoid it being insane and consistant ill leave it
00:49:124 (49124|2,49329|2,49535|2) - ^ same
00:49:740 (49740|1) - why not stack this right after a snare? that's the pattern i've been seeing so far your not wrong
00:51:384 (51384|2) - ^ yep
Decent chart
dagon bol
gud luk for renk

ty bb
very halpfol

riunosk

1,136 posts

Joined January 2015

riunosk 2017-07-16T01:43:15+00:00

CrumpetFiddler wrote:
riunosk wrote:
mod from queue 1234
ez
00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|2,26932|1) - can probably flip this so 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - doesnt stack on 1/1 for consistancy ill leave it, not a big deal
00:39:672 (39672|2,40083|2,40494|2) - can probably try to avoid this I made it like the other one, and removed the next note to be consistant
Great chart
le frave
00:08:850 (8850|2,9261|2,9672|2,10083|2) - can probably try to avoid this agreed
00:12:446 (12446|2,12857|1) - what are these following? nothing but they look cool, fixed
00:49:535 (49535|0,49946|0,50357|0,50767|0,51178|0,51589|0,52000|0) - hm, since its 1/2, not sure if you want to keep it although im sure it wouldnt be a problem, i have moved them around just in case|
Great chart
hrrrrrd
00:07:617 (7617|2,8028|2,8439|2,8850|2,9261|2) - fixed
00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1) - any reason for this? (vocal maybe?) theres a kick
00:16:452 (16452|3,16555|1,16658|2) - why not try making this more flowy? that part feels fine
00:19:329 (19329|2,19535|2) - same as ^^ fixed
00:24:261 (24261|2,24466|2,24672|2,24877|2) - ^ fixed
Decent chart, not sure why there are stacks
i should not be insane
00:34:329 (34329|2,34535|2,34740|2) - can probably avoid it being insane and consistant ill leave it
00:49:124 (49124|2,49329|2,49535|2) - ^ same
00:49:740 (49740|1) - why not stack this right after a snare? that's the pattern i've been seeing so far your not wrong
00:51:384 (51384|2) - ^ yep
Decent chart
dagon bol
gud luk for renk
ty bb
very halpfol

try using a darker green next time, my eyes hurt

Asherz007

Beatmap Nominator

689 posts

Joined September 2016

Asherz007 2017-07-25T16:44:05+00:00

y u ask me to mod agen

[General]

Tags conflict in Lefrave's Normal

Insane diff without I icon is grr; you could change to Easy Normal Advanced Hard if you wanted to, not forcing you.

Your hitsound allocation tilts me xD (Why is the crash hs on hitwhistle lol)
Also appear to be inconsistent in a couple of places so I'll try to point them out as well as some missed or shouldn't be there.

Hitsound

+w/f/c means to add respective hitsound; similarly -w/f/c is to remove them. I'm too lazy to type them out all the time, 'kay? (Reasons may not be given as to why. Most should be obvious.)

A generalisation that may not apply to all diffs. May have also missed some, since I was only checking through Hard and Insane for this. Mostly Insane.
Be consistent

00:00:631 - +w
00:03:507 - -w (there's nothing cymbal-like here)
00:06:795 - -w
00:07:206 - +w
00:10:083 - -w
00:13:781 - -c +w
00:15:014 - +c
00:18:302 - +c
00:20:357 - -c +w
00:20:767 - +c
00:21:589 - +c
00:23:130 - +f
00:24:055 - +f
00:24:466 - +f
00:24:877 - +f
00:25:288 - +w +f
00:25:699 - +f
00:26:110 - +f
00:26:521 - +f
00:27:343 - -w +c
00:34:329 - -c +f
00:34:432 - -f +c
00:35:973 - -c
00:36:076 - +c
00:38:747 - +c
00:39:158 - +c
00:39:774 - +c
00:43:370 - +c (p sure there's a snare here even on beat 1)
00:46:658 - +w
00:47:583 - +c
00:49:226 - +c
00:49:946 - +w
00:52:514 - +c
00:52:720 - +c
00:53:130 - +c
00:53:233 - -c

0|1|2|3 (Hopefully shouldn't be many suggestions I want to make...)

Easy

00:03:918 (3918|1) - Erring on the side of "it's a double because it can be" here since 00:10:494 (10494|0) isn't even though technically representing the same sounds. I'd remove because there's no crash attached to it.
00:13:781 - double for the crash?
00:20:357 - ^
00:22:000 - Kinda easier for me just to show you what I'd change. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8679561
00:22:411 - snare couldn't be missed for me
00:22:617 - double LN seemed unnecessary
00:23:644 - crash
00:32:685 (32685|0,32891|1,33096|0,33302|1) - Not a big fan of having many consecutive notes in the same hand for an Easy.
00:38:644 (38644|3) - May want to do the same as at 00:38:644 (38644|3) for consistency perhaps? (It's effectively the same percussion here.)
00:39:261 (39261|0,39261|1,39672|2,39672|3) - Could swap the LN placements for a little variation from earlier.
00:46:452 (46452|1,46658|0,46863|1,47069|0) - Like earlier, not too fond of this. Particularly since it's in the left hand again.

Lefrave's Normal

00:18:507 (18507|3) - I presume you're trying to follow the chord changes in the acoustic guitar with these LNs? Because that doesn't happen until 00:18:713. Just vocal and lead here. What you want to do with it is your choice I guess.
00:26:007 - Note? You mapped the 1/4 drum roll which does continue on this note and the focus hasn't switched to the vocal LNs just yet.

That's kinda it lol

Hard

A few times where columns just have 1/1 notes for a while (like 00:07:206 (7206|3,7617|3,8028|3,8439|3,8850|3) ). If you want to change that, then by all means, but I'll overlook that for everything else.

00:10:494 (10494|1,10904|3,11110|2) - I think you're trying to follow the guitar with these? Because right now 00:10:904 (10904|3) is a ghost since the second guitar note is actually at 00:10:802, 1/4 earlier. Also, this idea doesn't appear in Insane, so whether you want to keep this in is up to you.
00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13576|2,13576|3) - trying to keep a gap between this and Insane, I understand what you're trying to do. What could be done is, since only 00:13:370 has the extra emphasis because of the kick, you could make these two singles.
00:13:781 (13781|0,13781|3) - Can't quite figure out what's being followed with these LNs. It's different to Insane, so I'm not sure where the consistency is, either.
00:25:288 (25288|0,25288|3) - Double LNs for vocals because whyyyyyy (make at least one a short note)
00:34:329 (34329|3,34432|2,34535|1) - Feels a bit nitpicky, but this is the only time where this kick-snare thing that happens is represented with a roll, which I find a little odd. Could just move 00:34:432 (34432|2) into col 0.

Actually, that being said, the rest of the time it kinda looks like 00:35:973 (35973|2,36076|3,36178|1) so vary it up a little.
00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|3) - I don't understand why a double is needed for just the vocals.

Insane

#consistencyiswhere

Honestly, are crashes and snares triples or doubles? Because sometimes they're one, sometimes they're the other, particularly at the start. Mostly it lol

00:22:617 (22617|0) - Could finish at 00:23:233.
00:23:028 (23028|2,23233|2,23439|2,23644|2) - stack... might be awkward.
00:24:672 (24672|0,24672|3,24877|3,24877|0,25083|3,25083|0,25288|0,25288|3) - Could vary the triples a little bit more
00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|2,34432|3,34432|1,34535|2) - This kind of pattern appears slightly too often
00:53:644 (53644|1,53644|2) - Double LNs again? Why not make 00:53:233 (53233|1) an LN and end in the same place?

Hope this helps... again.

Parachor

290 posts

Joined November 2014

Parachor 2017-07-26T04:09:40+00:00

Modding Time~

[Easy]

🙟▼🙝

Going to be nit-picky here, because there's not much to say about an Easy.
- 00:08:644 (8644|3,8850|2,9055|0,9261|1,9466|3,9672|2,9877|0,10083|1,10494|0,10699|1,10904|3,11110|2) - This pattern feels to go on a bit too long.
- Consider turning 00:17:069 (17069|0) - into an LN that ends at 00:17:480 - and then remove 00:17:274 (17274|1) - . Just so that you're consistently following the voice to the end of that little passage.
- 00:19:740 (19740|1) - Perhaps to column |4| just for the sake of avoiding that 12431243 pattern again.
- 00:24:055 (24055|0,24261|2,24466|1,24672|3,24877|2,25083|0,25288|3) - Keep this whole pattern alternating hands as it works as a nice buildup. So moving 00:24:877 (24877|2,25288|3) - to the left hand somewhere, and 00:25:083 (25083|0) - to the right hand.

[Lefrave's Normal]

🙟▼🙝

- 00:03:918 (3918|1,4124|0,4535|1,4740|0,5151|1,5357|0,5767|1,5973|0,6589|1,6795|0) - I think this might continue a bit too long. Not really a problem though.
- 00:16:863 - Needs a note here.
- 00:18:507 (18507|3) - This sounds actually starts at 00:18:713 -
- 00:26:007 - Note here

[Hard]

🙟▼🙝

00:02:685 (2685|0) - This sound starts at 00:02:583 -
00:05:973 (5973|3) - This one also starts the same distance earlier.
00:10:904 (10904|3) - What is this for.
00:14:192 - onwards - Did we give up mapping the voice in this section?
00:18:507 (18507|2) - What's this for. If it's for the inflection of the voice, you'd probably need one at 00:18:918 - also.
00:30:220 (30220|0) - Should be a double to keep with your layering scheme.
00:34:329 (34329|3) - ^ (*Admittedly this matters less as you have the 1/4 after it.)
00:35:973 (35973|2) - ^ (*^)
00:43:370 (43370|2) - ^
00:47:069 (47069|1) - ^
00:47:480 (47480|2) - ^ (*^)
00:49:124 (49124|2) - ^ (*^)
00:52:000 (52000|0) - ^

[Insane]

🙟▼🙝

- 00:02:685 (2685|1) - Like in the previous difficulty, this note starts 1/4 earlier.
- 00:05:973 (5973|2) - ^
- 00:06:795 (6795|1) - This needs to be a double to keep your layering consistency.
- 00:18:302 (18302|0,18302|2,18302|3) - If you're going to map this sound to a triple here, you need to do it elsewhere in this intro section as well. So either make this a double, or go through and find the other instances and make them triples.
- 00:24:672 (24672|1,24672|0,24672|3,24877|2,24877|0,24877|3,25083|0,25083|1,25083|3,25288|3,25288|2,25288|0) - May have started the triples a bit early here. Perhaps make the first one or two a double instead. It loses it's emphasis when there's 4 of them in a row.

- 00:26:932 - Okay this whole kiai time section needs some major revising when it comes to layering. On the snare hit, you randomly switch between using a triple or a double, so you need to try and stay consistent. When it's around LN, it's a slightly different story, as you can afford to simplify there if needed, but there's a lot of instances right out in the open. Some examples:
00:27:343 (27343|0,27343|2) - Double
00:28:165 (28165|3,28165|2,28165|0) - Triple
00:29:809 (29809|2,29809|3) - Double
00:30:630 (30630|0,30630|1,31041|0,31041|3,31452|1,31452|0) - More Doubles
00:33:918 (33918|3,33918|2,33918|1) - Back to Triple
00:34:740 (34740|2,34740|1) - Double again.
00:35:562 (35562|0,35562|1,35562|3) - Now a Triple
and etc etc
My suggestion is to make them all triples, just because it's more interesting layering than if they were doubles. Around LN, use your own discretion to see if they work, but otherwise, take a run through and check all the snare hits.

- 00:38:952 (38952|3) - Probably delete this.

It's an overall comfortable set. There's not really many column changes because your patterning flows well. The main problems I found were to do with layering and consistency, but they're pretty easy fixes.

Good luck!

Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-07-28T09:52:05+00:00

Asherz007 wrote:
y u ask me to mod agen

[General]
Tags conflict in Lefrave's Normal

Insane diff without I icon is grr; you could change to Easy Normal Advanced Hard if you wanted to, not forcing you.

Your hitsound allocation tilts me xD (Why is the crash hs on hitwhistle lol)
Also appear to be inconsistent in a couple of places so I'll try to point them out as well as some missed or shouldn't be there.

Hitsound
+w/f/c means to add respective hitsound; similarly -w/f/c is to remove them. I'm too lazy to type them out all the time, 'kay? (Reasons may not be given as to why. Most should be obvious.)

A generalisation that may not apply to all diffs. May have also missed some, since I was only checking through Hard and Insane for this. Mostly Insane.
Be consistent

00:00:631 - +w
00:03:507 - -w (there's nothing cymbal-like here)
00:06:795 - -w
00:07:206 - +w
00:10:083 - -w
00:13:781 - -c +w
00:15:014 - +c
00:18:302 - +c
00:20:357 - -c +w
00:20:767 - +c
00:21:589 - +c
00:23:130 - +f
00:24:055 - +f
00:24:466 - +f
00:24:877 - +f
00:25:288 - +w +f
00:25:699 - +f
00:26:110 - +f
00:26:521 - +f
00:27:343 - -w +c
00:34:329 - -c +f
00:34:432 - -f +c
00:35:973 - -c
00:36:076 - +c
00:38:747 - +c
00:39:158 - +c
00:39:774 - +c
00:43:370 - +c (p sure there's a snare here even on beat 1)
00:46:658 - +w
00:47:583 - +c
00:49:226 - +c
00:49:946 - +w
00:52:514 - +c
00:52:720 - +c
00:53:130 - +c
00:53:233 - -c

0|1|2|3 (Hopefully shouldn't be many suggestions I want to make...)

Easy
00:03:918 (3918|1) - Erring on the side of "it's a double because it can be" here since 00:10:494 (10494|0) isn't even though technically representing the same sounds. I'd remove because there's no crash attached to it.
00:13:781 - double for the crash?
00:20:357 - ^
00:22:000 - Kinda easier for me just to show you what I'd change. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8679561
00:22:411 - snare couldn't be missed for me
00:22:617 - double LN seemed unnecessary
00:23:644 - crash
00:32:685 (32685|0,32891|1,33096|0,33302|1) - Not a big fan of having many consecutive notes in the same hand for an Easy.
00:38:644 (38644|3) - May want to do the same as at 00:38:644 (38644|3) for consistency perhaps? (It's effectively the same percussion here.)
00:39:261 (39261|0,39261|1,39672|2,39672|3) - Could swap the LN placements for a little variation from earlier.
00:46:452 (46452|1,46658|0,46863|1,47069|0) - Like earlier, not too fond of this. Particularly since it's in the left hand again.

Lefrave's Normal
00:18:507 (18507|3) - I presume you're trying to follow the chord changes in the acoustic guitar with these LNs? Because that doesn't happen until 00:18:713. Just vocal and lead here. What you want to do with it is your choice I guess.
00:26:007 - Note? You mapped the 1/4 drum roll which does continue on this note and the focus hasn't switched to the vocal LNs just yet.
That's kinda it lol

Hard
A few times where columns just have 1/1 notes for a while (like 00:07:206 (7206|3,7617|3,8028|3,8439|3,8850|3) ). If you want to change that, then by all means, but I'll overlook that for everything else.
00:10:494 (10494|1,10904|3,11110|2) - I think you're trying to follow the guitar with these? Because right now 00:10:904 (10904|3) is a ghost since the second guitar note is actually at 00:10:802, 1/4 earlier. Also, this idea doesn't appear in Insane, so whether you want to keep this in is up to you.
00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13576|2,13576|3) - trying to keep a gap between this and Insane, I understand what you're trying to do. What could be done is, since only 00:13:370 has the extra emphasis because of the kick, you could make these two singles.
00:13:781 (13781|0,13781|3) - Can't quite figure out what's being followed with these LNs. It's different to Insane, so I'm not sure where the consistency is, either.
00:25:288 (25288|0,25288|3) - Double LNs for vocals because whyyyyyy (make at least one a short note)
00:34:329 (34329|3,34432|2,34535|1) - Feels a bit nitpicky, but this is the only time where this kick-snare thing that happens is represented with a roll, which I find a little odd. Could just move 00:34:432 (34432|2) into col 0.

Actually, that being said, the rest of the time it kinda looks like 00:35:973 (35973|2,36076|3,36178|1) so vary it up a little.
00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|3) - I don't understand why a double is needed for just the vocals.

Insane
#consistencyiswhere

Honestly, are crashes and snares triples or doubles? Because sometimes they're one, sometimes they're the other, particularly at the start. Mostly it lol

00:22:617 (22617|0) - Could finish at 00:23:233.
00:23:028 (23028|2,23233|2,23439|2,23644|2) - stack... might be awkward.
00:24:672 (24672|0,24672|3,24877|3,24877|0,25083|3,25083|0,25288|0,25288|3) - Could vary the triples a little bit more
00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|2,34432|3,34432|1,34535|2) - This kind of pattern appears slightly too often
00:53:644 (53644|1,53644|2) - Double LNs again? Why not make 00:53:233 (53233|1) an LN and end in the same place?

Hope this helps... again.

im sure those hitsound checks too waaaay longer than they should of XD although thanks alot all of those were modified over all difficulties where applicable and Most of your changes were put in

thanks alot

(i would go thru marking everything i did but im afraid i might be old when im done, with what i didnt get ill probably just message you)

Asherz007

Beatmap Nominator

689 posts

Joined September 2016

Asherz007 2017-09-10T14:54:37+00:00

Now how the hell did I end up looking at this a third time

mini-irc

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2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: i got that guy yesterdat
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: to have a peak at starring star
2017-09-10 05:52 Asherz007: who's that guy
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: and he brought my attention to a few things no one noticed
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: Laughing comet powerpoints mapper
2017-09-10 05:52 Asherz007: oh right
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: 00:01:041 (1041|1,1247|1,1452|0,1658|0,1863|1,2069|1,2274|0,2891|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:01:041 (1041|1,1247|1,1452|0,1658|0,1863|1,2069|1,2274|0,2891|0,9672|1,9877|1,10083|0,10288|0,10494|1,10699|1,10904|0,11110|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 Asherz007: nice hand balance
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:09:672 (9672|1,9877|1,10083|0,10288|0,10494|1,10699|1,10904|0,11110|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 Asherz007: nice hand balance again
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah lol
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: thats the apparent thing he said
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: which no one really picked me up on XD
2017-09-10 05:54 Asherz007: Just redistribute the ministacks so that there's one in each column each time around
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: Exactly
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: im gunna do that now XD
2017-09-10 05:54 Asherz007: lol
2017-09-10 05:55 Asherz007: 00:24:261 (24261|1,24466|1,24672|1,24877|0,25083|0,25288|0) - btw
2017-09-10 05:56 CrumpetFiddler: thats less of a deal
2017-09-10 05:57 Asherz007: less of a deal but could one of these stacks be in rh at least
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: uhh
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: control+H this
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: 00:24:055 (24055|3,24055|2,24261|0,24261|1,24466|1,24466|2,24672|1,24672|3,24877|0,24877|2) -
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: does tht look better?
2017-09-10 05:57 Asherz007: Suppose I should ask why 00:25:083 (25083|0,25083|3,25083|1) - is a triple
2017-09-10 05:58 CrumpetFiddler: pre sure maxus suggested that
2017-09-10 05:58 CrumpetFiddler: he said iirc to emphasise the pattern increasing
2017-09-10 05:58 Asherz007: :thinking
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: do you think its better as a double
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: ill take your input
2017-09-10 05:59 Asherz007: idk it looks annoying as a triple bc it breaks consistency
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: made it to a double in cols 2,3
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: looks better
2017-09-10 06:00 Asherz007: Could just remove stacks altogether and go for left to right progression if you wanted https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9056211
2017-09-10 06:00 CrumpetFiddler: i like the variation in the patterns
2017-09-10 06:00 CrumpetFiddler: id like to kinda keep it a similar style to as it is
2017-09-10 06:00 Asherz007: Sure
2017-09-10 06:01 CrumpetFiddler: maybe this can get ranked XD
2017-09-10 06:01 CrumpetFiddler: id like that to be the final reslt
2017-09-10 06:02 Asherz007: Let's hope so
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: im just happy that im seeing things that can be improved
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: this little sesh has been more helpful than like
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: maybe 5 mods
2017-09-10 06:02 Asherz007: 00:31:863 (31863|1,31863|2,32069|3,32274|0,32274|2,32480|3,32685|1,32685|0,32788|3,32788|2,32891|1,33096|2,33096|3,33302|1,33507|2,33507|0) - I sense copypasta
2017-09-10 06:03 Asherz007: 00:45:014 (45014|1,45014|2,45220|3,45425|0,45425|2,45630|3,45836|1,45836|0,45939|3,45939|2,46041|1,46247|3,46247|2,46452|1,46658|2,46658|0) - 
2017-09-10 06:03 CrumpetFiddler: i believe it is
2017-09-10 06:03 Asherz007: pls no copypasta D:
2017-09-10 06:03 CrumpetFiddler: how can i vary that? the lns follow the correct pitch
2017-09-10 06:04 CrumpetFiddler: theres not too much at all to change
2017-09-10 06:05 Asherz007: I mean the double in the middle kinda makes things awkward for pattern rearrangement
2017-09-10 06:06 Asherz007: If all else fails, I'd at least flip the entire thing
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: you reckon
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: does it even make sense
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: like
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: with the pitch?
2017-09-10 06:06 Asherz007: It'd just be reverse PR which is also fine
2017-09-10 06:08 Asherz007: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9056251 like I tried a rearrange and it kinda looks meh tbh
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: flipping plays alright
2017-09-10 06:08 Asherz007: flipping should play alright because it played alright in the first place lol
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: with ur image the double in the middle is noticeable
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: for a <3* song
2017-09-10 06:09 CrumpetFiddler: that kinda jack is probably unacceptable
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: Yeah I know
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: Flipping it keeps the double one handed
2017-09-10 06:09 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: well at least it's not "identical"
2017-09-10 06:10 CrumpetFiddler: True
2017-09-10 06:11 Asherz007: I mean there shouldn't really be anything else objectively troublesome anymore
2017-09-10 06:12 Asherz007: btw how many notes are you mapping for crashes
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: wym
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: iirc
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: i think its 3
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: 00:13:678 (13678|3) - might wanna move this 1/4 later then
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: Unless you're not for that bit then idk
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: hmm
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: in that case
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: bc 00:19:946 - also has double
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: 00:12:959 (12959|2,12959|0) -
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: should i remove one of these
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: why
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: i to make it flow better idk
2017-09-10 06:14 Asherz007: There's not really any reason to, seeing as there's a kick there
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: my reasoning was starts with one note ends with one
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: doesnt really make sense
2017-09-10 06:15 Asherz007: You have doubles every 1/1 so to break that wouldn't make much sense either
2017-09-10 06:16 Asherz007: many many reasons why I don't like mapping LNs in 4k lol
2017-09-10 06:17 CrumpetFiddler: tru
2017-09-10 06:17 CrumpetFiddler: not enough to work with
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Crumpey

565 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-09-12T07:33:24+00:00

Asherz007 wrote:

Now how the hell did I end up looking at this a third time

mini-irc

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2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: i got that guy yesterdat
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: to have a peak at starring star
2017-09-10 05:52 Asherz007: who's that guy
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: and he brought my attention to a few things no one noticed
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: Laughing comet powerpoints mapper
2017-09-10 05:52 Asherz007: oh right
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: 00:01:041 (1041|1,1247|1,1452|0,1658|0,1863|1,2069|1,2274|0,2891|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:01:041 (1041|1,1247|1,1452|0,1658|0,1863|1,2069|1,2274|0,2891|0,9672|1,9877|1,10083|0,10288|0,10494|1,10699|1,10904|0,11110|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 Asherz007: nice hand balance
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:09:672 (9672|1,9877|1,10083|0,10288|0,10494|1,10699|1,10904|0,11110|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 Asherz007: nice hand balance again
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah lol
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: thats the apparent thing he said
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: which no one really picked me up on XD
2017-09-10 05:54 Asherz007: Just redistribute the ministacks so that there's one in each column each time around
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: Exactly
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: im gunna do that now XD
2017-09-10 05:54 Asherz007: lol
2017-09-10 05:55 Asherz007: 00:24:261 (24261|1,24466|1,24672|1,24877|0,25083|0,25288|0) - btw
2017-09-10 05:56 CrumpetFiddler: thats less of a deal
2017-09-10 05:57 Asherz007: less of a deal but could one of these stacks be in rh at least
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: uhh
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: control+H this
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: 00:24:055 (24055|3,24055|2,24261|0,24261|1,24466|1,24466|2,24672|1,24672|3,24877|0,24877|2) -
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: does tht look better?
2017-09-10 05:57 Asherz007: Suppose I should ask why 00:25:083 (25083|0,25083|3,25083|1) - is a triple
2017-09-10 05:58 CrumpetFiddler: pre sure maxus suggested that
2017-09-10 05:58 CrumpetFiddler: he said iirc to emphasise the pattern increasing
2017-09-10 05:58 Asherz007: :thinking
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: do you think its better as a double
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: ill take your input
2017-09-10 05:59 Asherz007: idk it looks annoying as a triple bc it breaks consistency
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: made it to a double in cols 2,3
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: looks better
2017-09-10 06:00 Asherz007: Could just remove stacks altogether and go for left to right progression if you wanted https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9056211
2017-09-10 06:00 CrumpetFiddler: i like the variation in the patterns
2017-09-10 06:00 CrumpetFiddler: id like to kinda keep it a similar style to as it is
2017-09-10 06:00 Asherz007: Sure
2017-09-10 06:01 CrumpetFiddler: maybe this can get ranked XD
2017-09-10 06:01 CrumpetFiddler: id like that to be the final reslt
2017-09-10 06:02 Asherz007: Let's hope so
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: im just happy that im seeing things that can be improved
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: this little sesh has been more helpful than like
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: maybe 5 mods
2017-09-10 06:02 Asherz007: 00:31:863 (31863|1,31863|2,32069|3,32274|0,32274|2,32480|3,32685|1,32685|0,32788|3,32788|2,32891|1,33096|2,33096|3,33302|1,33507|2,33507|0) - I sense copypasta
2017-09-10 06:03 Asherz007: 00:45:014 (45014|1,45014|2,45220|3,45425|0,45425|2,45630|3,45836|1,45836|0,45939|3,45939|2,46041|1,46247|3,46247|2,46452|1,46658|2,46658|0) - 
2017-09-10 06:03 CrumpetFiddler: i believe it is
2017-09-10 06:03 Asherz007: pls no copypasta D:
2017-09-10 06:03 CrumpetFiddler: how can i vary that? the lns follow the correct pitch
2017-09-10 06:04 CrumpetFiddler: theres not too much at all to change
2017-09-10 06:05 Asherz007: I mean the double in the middle kinda makes things awkward for pattern rearrangement
2017-09-10 06:06 Asherz007: If all else fails, I'd at least flip the entire thing
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: you reckon
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: does it even make sense
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: like
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: with the pitch?
2017-09-10 06:06 Asherz007: It'd just be reverse PR which is also fine
2017-09-10 06:08 Asherz007: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9056251 like I tried a rearrange and it kinda looks meh tbh
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: flipping plays alright
2017-09-10 06:08 Asherz007: flipping should play alright because it played alright in the first place lol
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: with ur image the double in the middle is noticeable
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: for a <3* song
2017-09-10 06:09 CrumpetFiddler: that kinda jack is probably unacceptable
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: Yeah I know
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: Flipping it keeps the double one handed
2017-09-10 06:09 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: well at least it's not "identical"
2017-09-10 06:10 CrumpetFiddler: True
2017-09-10 06:11 Asherz007: I mean there shouldn't really be anything else objectively troublesome anymore
2017-09-10 06:12 Asherz007: btw how many notes are you mapping for crashes
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: wym
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: iirc
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: i think its 3
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: 00:13:678 (13678|3) - might wanna move this 1/4 later then
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: Unless you're not for that bit then idk
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: hmm
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: in that case
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: bc 00:19:946 - also has double
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: 00:12:959 (12959|2,12959|0) -
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: should i remove one of these
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: why
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: i to make it flow better idk
2017-09-10 06:14 Asherz007: There's not really any reason to, seeing as there's a kick there
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: my reasoning was starts with one note ends with one
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: doesnt really make sense
2017-09-10 06:15 Asherz007: You have doubles every 1/1 so to break that wouldn't make much sense either
2017-09-10 06:16 Asherz007: many many reasons why I don't like mapping LNs in 4k lol
2017-09-10 06:17 CrumpetFiddler: tru
2017-09-10 06:17 CrumpetFiddler: not enough to work with
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stay tuned for a fourth, maybe more <3

Litharrale

705 posts

Joined August 2013

Litharrale 2017-09-20T12:02:31+00:00

god so much irc

2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: yo
2017-09-14 19:01 Litharrale: wwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppppppppppp
2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: whew
2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: reported for spam
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: w
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: a
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: s
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: u
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: p
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: anywho
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: was gunna ask
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: youll actually get muted like that XD
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: when u got some spare time
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: can u just gloss over my starring star map
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: not a mod persay , if you want sure i just wanna know if ive fucked something really noticeable
2017-09-14 19:03 Litharrale: sure but not now cause i'm IRCing with someone 
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: ik
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: you are with asher
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: i can see
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
2017-09-14 19:03 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: thats also why im asking
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: to slow him down
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: https://discord.gg/CphJ5H
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: you can join that if u want
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: i just go there to talk
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: its my server
2017-09-14 19:05 Litharrale: you're in the osu modding association yeah?
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: Probably not
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: https://discord.gg/b3Xarh
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: also holy shit i passed this
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: drop an introduction in #arrival and say i invited you 
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: and if loctav likes you 
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9085169
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: you'll pass :^)
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: nice
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: an introduction?
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: what like an about me
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: ?
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: nah just like
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: "i map mania"
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: but 3-4 sentences long
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: How the fuck am i suppose to do that
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: since this is the discord for all the QATs and BNs and shit they make you do an intro to avoid having all the scrubs get in
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: Like
2017-09-14 19:08 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/7wBUU4Z.png
2017-09-14 19:08 Litharrale: example
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: i mean
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: i can
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: but ill rave on lol
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: Uhh sure, okay
2017-09-14 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: i got this
2017-09-14 19:09 Litharrale: i believe in you lad
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: Hey, CrumpetFiddler here, im an aspiring mania mapper and modder with the intentions of furthering other peoples maps as well as my own.
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: i got that
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: is that enough lol
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: or what am i missing
2017-09-14 19:12 Litharrale: Way longer
2017-09-14 19:12 Litharrale: look at what onosaki just said 
2017-09-14 19:13 Litharrale: Say something like
2017-09-14 19:13 CrumpetFiddler: should i talk about how long ive been in it, and how i have my own modding queue?
2017-09-14 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: oh
2017-09-14 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: he basically spelt it out
2017-09-14 19:14 Litharrale: Hey, I'm Crumpetfiddler. I'm a mapper from X city in Australia. I'm an aspiring mapper and modder with the intentions of furthering other peoples maps as well as my own. I joined this server to improve my own skills as well as talk to other like minded mania mappers. I have my own modding queue here (link) and have been mapping mania for X time. I was invited by Litharrale
2017-09-14 19:14 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:16 CrumpetFiddler: there
2017-09-14 19:16 CrumpetFiddler: dun did it
2017-09-14 19:18 Litharrale: fuckin beauty
2017-09-14 19:18 CrumpetFiddler: heh
2017-09-14 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: Eeey
2017-09-14 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: i got complimented
2017-09-14 19:20 Litharrale: noice
2017-09-14 19:41 Litharrale: diff preference?
2017-09-14 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: I need all checked
2017-09-14 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: but the worst offenders right now are probably insane and normal
2017-09-14 19:41 Litharrale: alright lets start with the insane then
2017-09-14 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: i recently had to fix it so best case scenario
2017-09-14 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: there isnt much
2017-09-14 19:42 Litharrale: 00:02:685 (2685|1) - if this is mapped to the vocal, it's slightly too late
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|0,2891|0,3096|0) - this doesnt playthat smoothly
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: theres a guitar there
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: yeah?
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: there is to
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: whats this LN mapped too? 00:03:096 (3096|0) - 
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: 00:03:096 (3096|0,3507|3) - what if i swapped these 2?
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: end of the guitar
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: echo
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: oh I thought the LNs were for the vocals 
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: yeah flipping can work
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: I dont really hear the echo tbh
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: nah, not vocal mapped
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: not there
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: the flip plays great
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: in another diff i think i vocal map some of the intro
2017-09-14 19:45 Litharrale: be consistent across diffs
2017-09-14 19:45 Litharrale: the guitar and the vocals are really close here so thats important
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: that flip btw
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: :ok:
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: whew
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: so smooth
2017-09-14 19:46 Litharrale: hear in the vocals in this bar here 00:03:918 (3918|3) - how it goes like "ka, ka-eh, kire" in 3 very distinct steps?
2017-09-14 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: I feel like you captured the second step here 00:04:329 (4329|1,4329|0,4535|0,4740|1,4740|3) - perfectly with the stacks but maybe you could do something for the 1st and 3rd as well
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: I'm not sure what you could do, but since the second step is so well, I think it's worth trying
2017-09-14 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: i dont follow
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: mmmm, dw about it. If i do a full mod I'll go into detail there
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: im willing to see how it works
2017-09-14 19:48 Litharrale: 00:06:795 (6795|1) - should be doubled since its strong
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: but i also dont get it
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: that was a consistancy issue
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: i did it before lol
2017-09-14 19:48 Litharrale: ?
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: 00:03:507 (3507|1,3507|0) -
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: thats a double
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: that one you pointed was a single
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: rip
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: they should both be doubles
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: fixed anyway
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: put a note to the right of it
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: plays fine
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|3) - I love the stack theme in this map but this section feels pretty empty, there's definitely more you could do here
2017-09-14 19:50 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|3,10083|0) - add a note on 3
2017-09-14 19:50 Litharrale: for the snare
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: its pretty hard to add much more
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: wait, why 3?
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: thats a bit overkill?
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: because 2 would cause a stack
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/bpLm5NL.png eg
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: 00:13:781 (13781|1,14398|2) - are these LNs mapped to the guitar?
2017-09-14 19:52 Litharrale: or the vocals?
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: the last ln is pretty questionable
2017-09-14 19:52 Litharrale: guitar or vocals
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: G
2017-09-14 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2,20767|3,21178|2,21589|0,22000|3,22617|0) -
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: 00:15:425 (15425|0) - this LN should be extended to 00:16:041 (16041|1) - and this 00:15:836 (15836|2) - should be deleted 
2017-09-14 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: this stuff is vocal'd
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: 00:16:041 (16041|1) - the new LN starts here
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: so delete these 00:16:247 (16247|1,16658|3) - two as well
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: just a sec
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: 00:17:274 (17274|1,17480|3,17891|3) - the guitar here is sick as fuck, imo you should map it
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: what do you think would fit better tbh
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: i gotta go in 6 mins so im just gonna blast these out
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: because i map vocals after
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: is it worth swapping between?
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: up to you
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: just be consistent
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: how it is currently is consistant, right? ;-;
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: fix the guitars kappa
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: then it'll be good
2017-09-14 19:55 CrumpetFiddler: im pretty sure it is? i havent really done a full mod of this map for a while
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: 00:20:973 (20973|2) - move to 1 and 00:21:178 (21178|0) - move to 2 to avoid the double shield
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i gotta get dressed now
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: 00:26:521 (26521|0,26521|1,26624|2,26726|0,26829|2) - this pattern feels a bit unnatural try something like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/b8QkyhV.png
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i wont close osu
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: kk
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: but ima just do this
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: for the future me of course
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: 00:18:536 -
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: 00:32:274 (32274|2,32788|2) - bad crumpet bad
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: fuck, NOTE : FIX GUITAR SECTION
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: it actually plays fine
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: and theres no way around it
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: lul
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: not with that attitude smh
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: btw
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: this can 100% be ranked
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: ill help you push it if you like
2017-09-14 19:57 CrumpetFiddler: what, even as it is?
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: well with a bunch of stuff fixed like the things i mentioned 
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: but it's pretty good
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: i gotta go now dude, 
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: cya
2017-09-20 18:02 Litharrale: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-09-20 18:02 Litharrale: lemme know when ready
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: so i didnt change everything from last time
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: but i changed most
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: aight we'll go through the maps in a sec 
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: lets start with hitsounds
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: hopefully get  this to a "rankable standard" today
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: best case scenario
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: o boi
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: ok so
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: im the worst with those
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: I'm going to use your insane as a hitsound base 
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: but go on
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: and find all inconsistencies in your hitsounds 
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: Sure, that was the first one hitsounded i believe
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: so if we're checking the hard and i say "missing W" that means the hard is missing a W that the insane has
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: does that make sense?
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: i get that
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: (not trying to be condescending, people just legitimately dont understand what i mean when i say that so just making sure)
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: sweets lets start
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:22:411 (22411|0) - missing a C
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: nah thats just the hitwhistle thing yeah
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:23:130 (23130|3) - also missing a C
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: so this is hards comparison
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: yes?
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: oh yeah whoops
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: yeah this is comparing the hard to the insane
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:23:644 (23644|3) - missing W
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|0) - insane as a F, hard has a C. Both should be a C
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: wait sorry
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: both should be a F
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: so change insanes?
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: plau
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: no change the hard
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: I'm using the insane as a base 
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: so im trying to make everything the same as the insane
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: thats all good
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: alright thats all for the Hard
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: next lets do the Normal
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: that was relatively painless
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: you expected more? :P
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: a little lol
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: alright now comparing normal with the insane 
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:00:631 (631|3) - very first note missing a W kappa
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|0) - W
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:13:781 (13781|1) - this is F|C and the insane has a W|F, remove the C and make it a W
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:15:014 (15014|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:18:302 (18302|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:20:357 (20357|1) - W
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/H680iZI.png not gonna link these all cause there's a lot, just make the norm look like the insane (left look like right) 00:23:028 (23028|0) - 
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:055 (24055|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:466 (24466|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 CrumpetFiddler: ill do that image last
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:877 (24877|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:25:288 (25288|0) - WF
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:25:699 (25699|3) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:26:110 (26110|1) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:26:521 (26521|3) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:43:370 (43370|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:46:658 (46658|2) - W
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:49:946 (49946|3) - W
2017-09-20 18:13 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|0) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:13 CrumpetFiddler: thats more like it
2017-09-20 18:13 CrumpetFiddler: i thought that would of been hard tbh
2017-09-20 18:13 Litharrale: lmao
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: alright Easy next
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: 00:23:233 (23233|3) - C
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: 00:46:658 (46658|3) - W
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: thats it 
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: e-z p-z
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: update and ill recheck
2017-09-20 18:15 CrumpetFiddler: nice and painless. no way i could fuck up so hard on easy lol
2017-09-20 18:15 CrumpetFiddler: :ok:
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: fuck i labeled the update wrong
2017-09-20 18:16 Litharrale: wot
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: whatever, ill fix that next time
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: i have a changelog on the thread
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: this map has gone thru 69 updates
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: shame we cant rank it rn
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: :^0
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: ok rechecking 
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: Comparing the insane to the normal
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:03:507 (3507|2) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:18 CrumpetFiddler: Heh
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:06:795 (6795|0) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|1) - remove W and C
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|3) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:20:151 (20151|2) - same here
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:21:178 (21178|1) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:22:000 (22000|0) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:35:973 (35973|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:46:247 (46247|1) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: alright thats checked one way and the other so should be good now
2017-09-20 18:20 CrumpetFiddler: coolio
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: Hard
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|0) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:27:343 (27343|1) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|3) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: Easy
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:13:165 (13165|0) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:18:302 (18302|2) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|2) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:46:247 (46247|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: ok i think thats it 
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: Whatever you do from now on 
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: make sure the hitsounds stay as they are
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: cause i dont wanna do that again :blobsweat:
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: ikr lol
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: Do another check yourself later just to be sure as well
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: it wasnt as bad as  i thought
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: but fuck hitsounding
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: i probs will
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: ill reupdate the hitsounds ruuuul quick
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: lets do the insane first
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: since we did that last time
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: if i repeat myself, just tell me lmao
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: just quickly
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: i want to talk about this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: 00:13:781 (13781|1) -  this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2) -  and this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: not the one note, the section
2017-09-20 18:26 Litharrale: aight
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: these are one of the things i remember you talking about changing
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: as it stands its consistant in all diffs
2017-09-20 18:26 Litharrale: Ah yeah
2017-09-20 18:27 CrumpetFiddler: im not really sure what to do about it as it stands
2017-09-20 18:27 Litharrale: wait 
2017-09-20 18:27 Litharrale: give me a second
2017-09-20 18:27 CrumpetFiddler: All g
2017-09-20 18:28 Litharrale: kk starting from here
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: 00:15:014 (15014|1) -  https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/oZAdRh0.png
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: The left is the guitar I hear
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: the right is what you've mapped 
2017-09-20 18:29 CrumpetFiddler: Yep
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: the LNs youve mapped seem to follow the vocals more than the guitar imo
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: kinda, yeah
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: so the issue here is 
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: thats 100% ok 
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2) -  this section here, is mapped to the vocals aswell
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: but its weird because the LNs earlier in the map you said were the guitars and not the vocals 
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: which is half the reason i also went for vocals there
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: and since they're so close (only 1/4) apart 
2017-09-20 18:31 Litharrale: it's kind of weird to swap between them
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: Mmm
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: i get that
2017-09-20 18:31 Litharrale: Imo you should pick one and stick with it 
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: i agree
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: that section i said that i mapped the guitar
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: thats the only other ln section really
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: so i guess itd be easier to mess with that
2017-09-20 18:33 CrumpetFiddler: depends really
2017-09-20 18:33 CrumpetFiddler: what do you think would play better?
2017-09-20 18:33 Litharrale: I'm testing how the guitar would play
2017-09-20 18:36 Litharrale: aight check discord 
2017-09-20 18:36 Litharrale: i made a really quick middle section thats mapped to the guitar
2017-09-20 18:36 CrumpetFiddler: Geez went thru that much effort?
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: so uhh
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: cant tell if sarcasm
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: what do i do with that
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: make a new diff?
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: make a new diff
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: not sarcasm lol
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: open the .osu 
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: copy paste it
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: ik how to, just didnt know if it was a .osu or just the notes
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: i just tried it and tried to see what changed
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: and
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: there was one thing that felt really bad
2017-09-20 18:41 Litharrale: oh yeah those patterns are really  bad LOL
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: 00:14:398 (14398|2,15014|1,15425|0,16041|2) -  this sections justified
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: not sure if i like it more than how it is, but it makes sense
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: tbh 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: if you want my opinion 
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: 00:14:398 (14398|2,15014|1,15425|0,16041|2,17274|1,17480|0,17891|3,18096|2) -  these
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: eeeh
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: i dont like
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: you should just do the vocals 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: all you have to do to fix the entire map 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: to make it vocal mapped 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: is shift the starting LNs 1/4 back
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: and you're done 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: while if you do guitar you have to remap a whole lot
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: huh
2017-09-20 18:43 CrumpetFiddler: i mean yeah i see what you mean
2017-09-20 18:43 CrumpetFiddler: im not sure how much will need to be fixed to have it mapped to the vocals but as it stands i think that would be more "fun"
2017-09-20 18:43 Litharrale: all you have to do for it to be mapped to the vocals is move this 00:02:685 (2685|1) - back to start on the blue tick
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: and have this 00:02:274 (2274|0) - end at the same blue tick
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: then repeat for the other LN block at the start
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: I love the way it plays like that too 
2017-09-20 18:44 CrumpetFiddler: lemme move your diff out before i start editing
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: because you have a little 1/4 stair in the middle that plays great
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: so this is insane right
2017-09-20 18:45 Litharrale: ye
2017-09-20 18:45 Litharrale: https://puu.sh/xEhlu/787f295e47.mp4 video
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131846 so make it look like this yea https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131846
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: woops lol
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: you didnt need to make a video XD
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: hey i like making videos you cant stop me
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: altho puush is nice like that
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: play it and see how it feels
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: sure
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: hmm
2017-09-20 18:47 CrumpetFiddler: 00:02:480 (2480|2,2685|3) -  these being in bewtween the end feel odd
2017-09-20 18:47 CrumpetFiddler: that might just be me being nitpicky
2017-09-20 18:47 Litharrale: I love it 
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: Thats good to hear
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: Its good seeing progress finally aha
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: did it for the second section aswell
2017-09-20 18:49 Litharrale: fucking fuck
2017-09-20 18:49 Litharrale: i tried to delete the diff i made and i accidentally deleted the whole thing
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/fMSKe3K.png fucking
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: rip lol
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: alright phone data dont let me down
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: so all ive done is moved those 2 sections at the start the tick down as per your video
2017-09-20 18:52 Litharrale: alright back at it
2017-09-20 18:53 Litharrale: 00:06:178 (6178|0,6178|1) - btw the doubles on the red ticks 
2017-09-20 18:53 Litharrale: justification is the guitar sound yeah?
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: theres a kinda uuuuu
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: sounn
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: fd
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: sound!
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: fuck english
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: ._.
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: ill just uh 
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: accept that as it is 
2017-09-20 18:55 CrumpetFiddler: in which case its possible that it might need to be moved down a tick
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: nah keep it
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: dont want too many 1/4 rhythms in there
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|2,34432|3,34432|1,34535|2) - these patterns imo are really uncomfortable to play 
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: I get that they're not 12|34 for variety
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: but idk if the uncomfortableness is worth the variety factor
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: internets dying on me a bit
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: did you get my message about the jumptrill patterns
2017-09-20 18:58 CrumpetFiddler: About 15 times
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: LOL
2017-09-20 18:59 CrumpetFiddler: ill savelog just for you lol
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: if you dont end up changing them 
2017-09-20 18:59 CrumpetFiddler: so the sounds they are there for are apparent
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: balance the direction they go in 
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: sounds?
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: like for these 00:49:124 (49124|0,49124|2,49226|3,49226|1,49329|2) - ?
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: to balance the direction
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: 100:49:124 (49124|2,49124|0,49226|1,49226|3,49329|2) - just gotta flip this yeah?
2017-09-20 19:01 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 19:01 Litharrale: ctrl+h and fix the stack and its all g
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: Yeo
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: Yep
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: all done
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: gratz your insane is now rankable
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: Actual?
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: yep
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: well
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: i know normal will take some time
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: but thats because the initial design isnt my own
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: wait
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: is your GDer not doing it anymore?
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: Lol no
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: he made it about 6 months ago
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: ive done everything to it
2017-09-20 19:04 Litharrale: How close is it to the original?
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: 6 months moddings worth
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: i already considered removing his name from it
2017-09-20 19:05 Litharrale: im gonna find out if you should or not dw
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: but i spoke to maxus and he said thats a no-go
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: you can ask others if you want tho
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: yeah my gut feeling is you dont but 
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: meh
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: find out later
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: Hard time
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: ;)
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: id prefer it not be hard
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: but ah well lol
2017-09-20 19:07 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|3) - make the vocals consistent with the insane here
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: alright
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: did that
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-20 19:07 Litharrale: abraxos said keep the name on discord and ill trust him
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:384 (6384|2,6384|3,6795|2) - should i flip these
2017-09-20 19:08 Litharrale: 00:05:562 (5562|0) -  here too
2017-09-20 19:08 Litharrale: why?
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: nah ive done it
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: so that each ln has its own col
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: or doesnt matter
2017-09-20 19:09 Litharrale: yeah go for it 
2017-09-20 19:09 Litharrale: both play fine
2017-09-20 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: cool ill do that
2017-09-20 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: that keeps consistant with insane aswell
2017-09-20 19:10 Litharrale: 00:07:411 (7411|0) - move to 3 and move 00:07:617 (7617|2) -  to 1 
2017-09-20 19:10 Litharrale: breaks up the handtrill in 1|2
2017-09-20 19:10 CrumpetFiddler: are you a 1234 or a 0123
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: yes
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: wut
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: 1234
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: yes isnt an answer to that
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:12 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|3,7617|3,8028|3,8439|3,8850|3) - idk how I feel about this stack but I cant see a viable option to changing it 
2017-09-20 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: it does go for a while
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: its only 5 though and the bpm is low 
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: it's ok
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: 00:10:288 (10288|2) - move to 2 
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: imo making a stack plays well after the loud snare because you've got nothing else emphasising it
2017-09-20 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: true
2017-09-20 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: that sounds better
2017-09-20 19:14 Litharrale: 00:14:398 (14398|2) - remove, in the hard this is a double and in the insane its a single 
2017-09-20 19:15 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 19:17 Litharrale: 00:16:452 (16452|1,16555|0,16658|1,16658|2) - this is a little uncomfortable to play, try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131919
2017-09-20 19:17 Litharrale: it's still a little weird because of the first SN being squished between the two LNs but it is better imo
2017-09-20 19:18 CrumpetFiddler: it does look better
2017-09-20 19:19 Litharrale: 00:25:596 (25596|1,25699|2,25802|1) - 2|3 trills in low diffs are eh, just smooth it out a bit
2017-09-20 19:20 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|3,34432|0) - making these doubles is fine, as singles they play kind of weird since the player is expecting a double anyway for the beat 
2017-09-20 19:20 Litharrale: just dont make the ones in the LN clusters doubles and probably only do 12|34 ones
2017-09-20 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: hows that
2017-09-20 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131932
2017-09-20 19:21 CrumpetFiddler: so with those notes you say to make doubles
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: eh i dont like that stack on col 4
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: lhttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131937
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: i got that
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: maybe something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131936
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: yeah thats good
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: ill keep that consistant then
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: your little screenshot actually feels pretty fun
2017-09-20 19:23 Litharrale: 00:36:178 (36178|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131939 mix these patterns up a bit 
2017-09-20 19:23 Litharrale: :&)
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: that theres needs the doubles
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: same as earlier
2017-09-20 19:24 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131941
2017-09-20 19:24 CrumpetFiddler: something like that?
2017-09-20 19:24 Litharrale: looks good 
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: ok fuck i forgot this set has a video
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: cool
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: i cant download it because shitty internet 
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: yeah lol
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: so do me a huge favour
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: just the outro nothing special
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: and make sure it fits the ranking criteria
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: what up
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: I made sure it was done well
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: sweet
2017-09-20 19:25 *cough* ripped it from the ranked version *cough*
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: 00:38:439 (38439|0) -  https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131945 
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: spot the issue
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: do remember it is a stream
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: but damn
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: yeah it doesnt actually play that badly 
2017-09-20 19:27 Litharrale: its ok you dont have to change it 
2017-09-20 19:27 Litharrale: i would expect another BN to at least mention it though
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: like i can take jacks out of context too buddy ;)
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: how could i change it tho
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: i would rather it be as good as it can get
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: uh just remap the pattern 
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: like 00:38:439 (38439|0) - 
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: (dont do that one)
2017-09-20 19:29 CrumpetFiddler: wut
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale:  im retarded
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131951
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale: meant that link
2017-09-20 19:30 Litharrale: from 00:43:165 to 00:45:220 you have 1 note in col 4 
2017-09-20 19:31 Litharrale: reeee timestamps work pls 
2017-09-20 19:31 Litharrale: you get the idea even if the link did fuck up
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: modified ur screenshot a little
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: feels good tho
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: just the end part https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131959
2017-09-20 19:33 CrumpetFiddler: the end of the one you sent played a tad weird
2017-09-20 19:33 Litharrale: looks good 
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: that col 4 suggestion is the last one for this diff
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: 00:43:576 (43576|0) -  moved to col 4
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: looking solid af
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: 00:44:603 (44603|1) -I'd suggest moving this to 4 as well 
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: it fits with the rise and fall of the vocals
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: do easy next tho
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: i want normal last lol
2017-09-20 19:35 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah i can justify that
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: nah lets do normal first cause while I'm going, I'm comparing it to the diff above for spread issues 
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: so if we do easy then normal it might screw things up
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: get it out of the way :^)
2017-09-20 19:35 CrumpetFiddler: aww XD
2017-09-20 19:36 Litharrale: 00:00:631 (631|3) - what's this mapped to?
2017-09-20 19:36 Litharrale: oh man this map is whack
2017-09-20 19:36 CrumpetFiddler: i considered deleting it for some time
2017-09-20 19:37 CrumpetFiddler: its so far off from the originals, almost feels out of place
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: 00:07:411 (7411|3,7617|2,7822|1,8028|3,8233|2,8439|1,8644|3,8850|2,9055|1) - very repetitive 
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: whats ur intake tho
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: consider deletion, or work with it
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: i mean
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: just from looking at the map now 
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: if the whole spread was like this
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: i would not rank it 
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: i want you to be real
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: I dont really like it
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: im not going to pretend that i do
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: What I'd suggest doing 
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: is just deleting it
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: it's a short song so it wont take long 
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: id be happy to tbh
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: and ranking it with this might be 
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: idk
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: regretful
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: i can change the diff name to easy normal hard
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: people kept telling me to rename insane anyway
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: .............i was gonna bring that up
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: Lol
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: you could do that 
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: but
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/lSZNtgG.png
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: alot of people have told me
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: im aware of that issue
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: you'd have two "hards"
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: whats normal <2.5?
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale:  uh
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: maybe
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: since easy ends at 1.5
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: just remap it 
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: deleting would cause a lot of problems 
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: ;-;
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: like now your spread is weird, you'd have to gimp the hard or buff the easy 
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: and that'd ruin them
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: Remapping at this stage
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: or you can go with it is as it is
2017-09-20 19:42 it's not *terrible*
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: it needs heavy fixing if anything
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: Up to you 
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: decide quick cause i gotta go in 17 mins 
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: and i wanna be able to be happy with this by then
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: im gunna regret this
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: keep it
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: aight
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: fix that repetitive patteren
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|0) - move to 3 to stop the LN stack
2017-09-20 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: yes mum
2017-09-20 19:44 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:44 Litharrale: 00:13:165 (13165|1) - maybe move to 1 to fix hand blaance
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
2017-09-20 19:45 Litharrale: 00:24:055 (24055|0,24261|3) - should be doubles
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: the end half of the song is better
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: the intro is mostly the shittest part
2017-09-20 19:45 Litharrale: 00:25:288 (25288|0,25494|2,25596|1,25699|3,25802|2,25904|0,26007|3,26110|1) - this pattern hurts my brain
2017-09-20 19:46 CrumpetFiddler: i just remade one, what would you go for
2017-09-20 19:46 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/rWm0jzU.png
2017-09-20 19:47 Litharrale: 00:38:644 (38644|1) - move to 1 for balance
2017-09-20 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: i had a pattern almost identical lol
2017-09-20 19:47 Litharrale: 00:49:226 (49226|3) - move to 1 for the flow and to break the stack
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: yeah i get that
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: this ver is really different from the others, isnt that okay for a gd tho?
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: 900:53:233 (53233|1,53644|0) - flip them
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: yeah its fine 
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: well "gd"\
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: thats all the easy to fix stuff 
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: flip what
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|1,53644|0) - 
2017-09-20 19:49 Litharrale: wtf the link doesnt work
2017-09-20 19:49 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|0,53644|1) - 
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: thats better
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: ill update real quick
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: just re-skim normal
2017-09-20 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: also ill probably rename insane to Hard + or something
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: nono dont do that 
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: Loctav the other day was ranting about people who name diffs with "+" in them
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: insane is fine 
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: its not perfect
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: but
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: meh
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: alternatively you could give it a custom name
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: like 
2017-09-20 19:51 CrumpetFiddler: Lol
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: idfk
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Thats a bad diff name
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: i dont know dragonball z that well ):
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: kame house
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: (dont do this)
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Thats dragon ball super
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Smh
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|2) - move to 1 for hand balance
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: easy yeah?
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: 00:02:891 (2891|0) -  to 3
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: yeah easy
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: 00:03:096 (3096|1) - to 1
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: 00:03:507 (3507|0) -  to 2
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: this change doesnt really do a lot, i just think it plays slightly better
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: uhhh
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: that makes it worse
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: wait
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: i cant read basic instructions mb
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: hue
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|2) - not doing anything special for this one feels wrong 
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: imo either make it a double or put the next note in the same column
2017-09-20 19:55 CrumpetFiddler: ill move that note to col 4
2017-09-20 19:55 Litharrale: 00:20:357 (20357|0) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132022 this pattern follows pitch better
2017-09-20 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i can see that
2017-09-20 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: plays as it sounds
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: 00:14:192 - imo you should add a note here and here 00:14:603 for the beat 
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: since all the other LNs fall onto the beat excpet these two 
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: the faster 1/2 rhythm actually fits with the vocals too 
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: that second one didnt work
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: but ik where
2017-09-20 19:58 Litharrale: 00:14:603
2017-09-20 19:58 Litharrale: check the time in the bottom left
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: i did
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: but ur link didnt work thats all i said lol
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132032
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: oh
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: (
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: 00:42:049 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132031
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: moved em around a bit
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: so there were no stacks
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: 00:27:754 (27754|3) - move to 1 for hand balance
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: ahhhhh its 8pm
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: lets finish quick
2017-09-20 20:00 CrumpetFiddler: 8pm isnt that late lol
2017-09-20 20:00 CrumpetFiddler: and aight XD
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: nah i just promised myself id go to the library and study 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: and if i dont im gonna be behind
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: the library
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: at 8pm?
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: yeah my uni library is open till 1am
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: geez lol
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: alright 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: crumpet 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: ill make you a deal
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: Yep?
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: sounds shady
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: while im gone 
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: if you recheck all the hitsounds 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: on all the diffs
2017-09-20 20:02 Litharrale: and make all the BGs 1080p
2017-09-20 20:02 Litharrale: ill bubble it
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: arnt all the bgs already 1080p?
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: but alright
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: ill check the hitsounds
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: they're 1080p in resolution
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: but it looks like they've been upscaled from 720p
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: shouldnt be hard to find good art for DBZ
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: if they are, is that bad?
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: DBS
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: !!!!
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: uh if you ask most people, they'd say no
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: unfortunately for you, i do care :^)
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: make it pretty pls
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: alright, lol ill change the images XD or find others that fit lol
2017-09-20 20:04 Litharrale: kk GL, send me a message on discord when you're done
2017-09-20 20:04 CrumpetFiddler: alright bb
2017-09-20 21:58 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|2) - hard and insane have a F here but easy and norm dont
2017-09-20 21:58 CrumpetFiddler: aww
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: i thought i had it perfect
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: I think thats it :P
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: Damn'
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: 1 kds
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: where do u want it boi
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: save it 
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: im gonna upload a 7k set soon 
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: (:
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: Kd is irrelevant for me
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: Oh
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: ew 7k
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: okay okay
2017-09-20 22:00 Litharrale: tell me when you update it
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: just remind me when that does come XD
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: oh shit
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: cant wait to put that in the changelog
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: added 1 hitsound
2017-09-20 22:00 Litharrale: lul
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: alright, thats done
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: also, i love that insane bg now
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: looks so cool

Fixed all hitsound inconsistencies and smoothed over a couple of issues. Changed BGs too

Crumpey

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Crumpey 2017-09-21T03:46:26+00:00

Litharrale wrote:

god so much irc

2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: yo
2017-09-14 19:01 Litharrale: wwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppppppppppp
2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: whew
2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: reported for spam
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: w
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: a
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: s
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: u
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: p
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: anywho
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: was gunna ask
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: youll actually get muted like that XD
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: when u got some spare time
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: can u just gloss over my starring star map
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: not a mod persay , if you want sure i just wanna know if ive fucked something really noticeable
2017-09-14 19:03 Litharrale: sure but not now cause i'm IRCing with someone 
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: ik
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: you are with asher
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: i can see
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
2017-09-14 19:03 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: thats also why im asking
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: to slow him down
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: https://discord.gg/CphJ5H
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: you can join that if u want
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: i just go there to talk
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: its my server
2017-09-14 19:05 Litharrale: you're in the osu modding association yeah?
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: Probably not
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: https://discord.gg/b3Xarh
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: also holy shit i passed this
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: drop an introduction in #arrival and say i invited you 
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: and if loctav likes you 
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9085169
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: you'll pass :^)
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: nice
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: an introduction?
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: what like an about me
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: ?
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: nah just like
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: "i map mania"
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: but 3-4 sentences long
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: How the fuck am i suppose to do that
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: since this is the discord for all the QATs and BNs and shit they make you do an intro to avoid having all the scrubs get in
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: Like
2017-09-14 19:08 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/7wBUU4Z.png
2017-09-14 19:08 Litharrale: example
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: i mean
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: i can
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: but ill rave on lol
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: Uhh sure, okay
2017-09-14 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: i got this
2017-09-14 19:09 Litharrale: i believe in you lad
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: Hey, CrumpetFiddler here, im an aspiring mania mapper and modder with the intentions of furthering other peoples maps as well as my own.
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: i got that
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: is that enough lol
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: or what am i missing
2017-09-14 19:12 Litharrale: Way longer
2017-09-14 19:12 Litharrale: look at what onosaki just said 
2017-09-14 19:13 Litharrale: Say something like
2017-09-14 19:13 CrumpetFiddler: should i talk about how long ive been in it, and how i have my own modding queue?
2017-09-14 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: oh
2017-09-14 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: he basically spelt it out
2017-09-14 19:14 Litharrale: Hey, I'm Crumpetfiddler. I'm a mapper from X city in Australia. I'm an aspiring mapper and modder with the intentions of furthering other peoples maps as well as my own. I joined this server to improve my own skills as well as talk to other like minded mania mappers. I have my own modding queue here (link) and have been mapping mania for X time. I was invited by Litharrale
2017-09-14 19:14 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:16 CrumpetFiddler: there
2017-09-14 19:16 CrumpetFiddler: dun did it
2017-09-14 19:18 Litharrale: fuckin beauty
2017-09-14 19:18 CrumpetFiddler: heh
2017-09-14 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: Eeey
2017-09-14 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: i got complimented
2017-09-14 19:20 Litharrale: noice
2017-09-14 19:41 Litharrale: diff preference?
2017-09-14 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: I need all checked
2017-09-14 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: but the worst offenders right now are probably insane and normal
2017-09-14 19:41 Litharrale: alright lets start with the insane then
2017-09-14 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: i recently had to fix it so best case scenario
2017-09-14 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: there isnt much
2017-09-14 19:42 Litharrale: 00:02:685 (2685|1) - if this is mapped to the vocal, it's slightly too late
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|0,2891|0,3096|0) - this doesnt playthat smoothly
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: theres a guitar there
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: yeah?
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: there is to
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: whats this LN mapped too? 00:03:096 (3096|0) - 
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: 00:03:096 (3096|0,3507|3) - what if i swapped these 2?
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: end of the guitar
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: echo
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: oh I thought the LNs were for the vocals 
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: yeah flipping can work
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: I dont really hear the echo tbh
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: nah, not vocal mapped
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: not there
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: the flip plays great
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: in another diff i think i vocal map some of the intro
2017-09-14 19:45 Litharrale: be consistent across diffs
2017-09-14 19:45 Litharrale: the guitar and the vocals are really close here so thats important
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: that flip btw
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: :ok:
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: whew
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: so smooth
2017-09-14 19:46 Litharrale: hear in the vocals in this bar here 00:03:918 (3918|3) - how it goes like "ka, ka-eh, kire" in 3 very distinct steps?
2017-09-14 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: I feel like you captured the second step here 00:04:329 (4329|1,4329|0,4535|0,4740|1,4740|3) - perfectly with the stacks but maybe you could do something for the 1st and 3rd as well
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: I'm not sure what you could do, but since the second step is so well, I think it's worth trying
2017-09-14 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: i dont follow
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: mmmm, dw about it. If i do a full mod I'll go into detail there
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: im willing to see how it works
2017-09-14 19:48 Litharrale: 00:06:795 (6795|1) - should be doubled since its strong
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: but i also dont get it
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: that was a consistancy issue
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: i did it before lol
2017-09-14 19:48 Litharrale: ?
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: 00:03:507 (3507|1,3507|0) -
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: thats a double
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: that one you pointed was a single
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: rip
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: they should both be doubles
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: fixed anyway
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: put a note to the right of it
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: plays fine
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|3) - I love the stack theme in this map but this section feels pretty empty, there's definitely more you could do here
2017-09-14 19:50 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|3,10083|0) - add a note on 3
2017-09-14 19:50 Litharrale: for the snare
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: its pretty hard to add much more
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: wait, why 3?
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: thats a bit overkill?
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: because 2 would cause a stack
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/bpLm5NL.png eg
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: 00:13:781 (13781|1,14398|2) - are these LNs mapped to the guitar?
2017-09-14 19:52 Litharrale: or the vocals?
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: the last ln is pretty questionable
2017-09-14 19:52 Litharrale: guitar or vocals
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: G
2017-09-14 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2,20767|3,21178|2,21589|0,22000|3,22617|0) -
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: 00:15:425 (15425|0) - this LN should be extended to 00:16:041 (16041|1) - and this 00:15:836 (15836|2) - should be deleted 
2017-09-14 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: this stuff is vocal'd
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: 00:16:041 (16041|1) - the new LN starts here
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: so delete these 00:16:247 (16247|1,16658|3) - two as well
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: just a sec
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: 00:17:274 (17274|1,17480|3,17891|3) - the guitar here is sick as fuck, imo you should map it
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: what do you think would fit better tbh
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: i gotta go in 6 mins so im just gonna blast these out
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: because i map vocals after
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: is it worth swapping between?
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: up to you
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: just be consistent
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: how it is currently is consistant, right? ;-;
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: fix the guitars kappa
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: then it'll be good
2017-09-14 19:55 CrumpetFiddler: im pretty sure it is? i havent really done a full mod of this map for a while
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: 00:20:973 (20973|2) - move to 1 and 00:21:178 (21178|0) - move to 2 to avoid the double shield
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i gotta get dressed now
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: 00:26:521 (26521|0,26521|1,26624|2,26726|0,26829|2) - this pattern feels a bit unnatural try something like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/b8QkyhV.png
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i wont close osu
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: kk
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: but ima just do this
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: for the future me of course
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: 00:18:536 -
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: 00:32:274 (32274|2,32788|2) - bad crumpet bad
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: fuck, NOTE : FIX GUITAR SECTION
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: it actually plays fine
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: and theres no way around it
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: lul
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: not with that attitude smh
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: btw
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: this can 100% be ranked
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: ill help you push it if you like
2017-09-14 19:57 CrumpetFiddler: what, even as it is?
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: well with a bunch of stuff fixed like the things i mentioned 
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: but it's pretty good
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: i gotta go now dude, 
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: cya
2017-09-20 18:02 Litharrale: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-09-20 18:02 Litharrale: lemme know when ready
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: so i didnt change everything from last time
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: but i changed most
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: aight we'll go through the maps in a sec 
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: lets start with hitsounds
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: hopefully get  this to a "rankable standard" today
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: best case scenario
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: o boi
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: ok so
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: im the worst with those
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: I'm going to use your insane as a hitsound base 
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: but go on
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: and find all inconsistencies in your hitsounds 
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: Sure, that was the first one hitsounded i believe
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: so if we're checking the hard and i say "missing W" that means the hard is missing a W that the insane has
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: does that make sense?
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: i get that
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: (not trying to be condescending, people just legitimately dont understand what i mean when i say that so just making sure)
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: sweets lets start
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:22:411 (22411|0) - missing a C
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: nah thats just the hitwhistle thing yeah
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:23:130 (23130|3) - also missing a C
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: so this is hards comparison
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: yes?
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: oh yeah whoops
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: yeah this is comparing the hard to the insane
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:23:644 (23644|3) - missing W
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|0) - insane as a F, hard has a C. Both should be a C
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: wait sorry
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: both should be a F
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: so change insanes?
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: plau
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: no change the hard
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: I'm using the insane as a base 
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: so im trying to make everything the same as the insane
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: thats all good
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: alright thats all for the Hard
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: next lets do the Normal
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: that was relatively painless
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: you expected more? :P
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: a little lol
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: alright now comparing normal with the insane 
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:00:631 (631|3) - very first note missing a W kappa
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|0) - W
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:13:781 (13781|1) - this is F|C and the insane has a W|F, remove the C and make it a W
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:15:014 (15014|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:18:302 (18302|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:20:357 (20357|1) - W
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/H680iZI.png not gonna link these all cause there's a lot, just make the norm look like the insane (left look like right) 00:23:028 (23028|0) - 
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:055 (24055|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:466 (24466|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 CrumpetFiddler: ill do that image last
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:877 (24877|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:25:288 (25288|0) - WF
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:25:699 (25699|3) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:26:110 (26110|1) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:26:521 (26521|3) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:43:370 (43370|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:46:658 (46658|2) - W
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:49:946 (49946|3) - W
2017-09-20 18:13 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|0) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:13 CrumpetFiddler: thats more like it
2017-09-20 18:13 CrumpetFiddler: i thought that would of been hard tbh
2017-09-20 18:13 Litharrale: lmao
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: alright Easy next
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: 00:23:233 (23233|3) - C
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: 00:46:658 (46658|3) - W
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: thats it 
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: e-z p-z
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: update and ill recheck
2017-09-20 18:15 CrumpetFiddler: nice and painless. no way i could fuck up so hard on easy lol
2017-09-20 18:15 CrumpetFiddler: :ok:
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: fuck i labeled the update wrong
2017-09-20 18:16 Litharrale: wot
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: whatever, ill fix that next time
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: i have a changelog on the thread
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: this map has gone thru 69 updates
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: shame we cant rank it rn
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: :^0
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: ok rechecking 
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: Comparing the insane to the normal
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:03:507 (3507|2) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:18 CrumpetFiddler: Heh
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:06:795 (6795|0) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|1) - remove W and C
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|3) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:20:151 (20151|2) - same here
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:21:178 (21178|1) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:22:000 (22000|0) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:35:973 (35973|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:46:247 (46247|1) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: alright thats checked one way and the other so should be good now
2017-09-20 18:20 CrumpetFiddler: coolio
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: Hard
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|0) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:27:343 (27343|1) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|3) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: Easy
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:13:165 (13165|0) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:18:302 (18302|2) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|2) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:46:247 (46247|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: ok i think thats it 
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: Whatever you do from now on 
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: make sure the hitsounds stay as they are
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: cause i dont wanna do that again :blobsweat:
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: ikr lol
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: Do another check yourself later just to be sure as well
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: it wasnt as bad as  i thought
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: but fuck hitsounding
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: i probs will
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: ill reupdate the hitsounds ruuuul quick
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: lets do the insane first
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: since we did that last time
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: if i repeat myself, just tell me lmao
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: just quickly
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: i want to talk about this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: 00:13:781 (13781|1) -  this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2) -  and this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: not the one note, the section
2017-09-20 18:26 Litharrale: aight
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: these are one of the things i remember you talking about changing
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: as it stands its consistant in all diffs
2017-09-20 18:26 Litharrale: Ah yeah
2017-09-20 18:27 CrumpetFiddler: im not really sure what to do about it as it stands
2017-09-20 18:27 Litharrale: wait 
2017-09-20 18:27 Litharrale: give me a second
2017-09-20 18:27 CrumpetFiddler: All g
2017-09-20 18:28 Litharrale: kk starting from here
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: 00:15:014 (15014|1) -  https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/oZAdRh0.png
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: The left is the guitar I hear
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: the right is what you've mapped 
2017-09-20 18:29 CrumpetFiddler: Yep
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: the LNs youve mapped seem to follow the vocals more than the guitar imo
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: kinda, yeah
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: so the issue here is 
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: thats 100% ok 
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2) -  this section here, is mapped to the vocals aswell
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: but its weird because the LNs earlier in the map you said were the guitars and not the vocals 
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: which is half the reason i also went for vocals there
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: and since they're so close (only 1/4) apart 
2017-09-20 18:31 Litharrale: it's kind of weird to swap between them
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: Mmm
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: i get that
2017-09-20 18:31 Litharrale: Imo you should pick one and stick with it 
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: i agree
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: that section i said that i mapped the guitar
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: thats the only other ln section really
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: so i guess itd be easier to mess with that
2017-09-20 18:33 CrumpetFiddler: depends really
2017-09-20 18:33 CrumpetFiddler: what do you think would play better?
2017-09-20 18:33 Litharrale: I'm testing how the guitar would play
2017-09-20 18:36 Litharrale: aight check discord 
2017-09-20 18:36 Litharrale: i made a really quick middle section thats mapped to the guitar
2017-09-20 18:36 CrumpetFiddler: Geez went thru that much effort?
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: so uhh
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: cant tell if sarcasm
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: what do i do with that
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: make a new diff?
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: make a new diff
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: not sarcasm lol
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: open the .osu 
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: copy paste it
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: ik how to, just didnt know if it was a .osu or just the notes
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: i just tried it and tried to see what changed
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: and
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: there was one thing that felt really bad
2017-09-20 18:41 Litharrale: oh yeah those patterns are really  bad LOL
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: 00:14:398 (14398|2,15014|1,15425|0,16041|2) -  this sections justified
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: not sure if i like it more than how it is, but it makes sense
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: tbh 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: if you want my opinion 
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: 00:14:398 (14398|2,15014|1,15425|0,16041|2,17274|1,17480|0,17891|3,18096|2) -  these
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: eeeh
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: i dont like
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: you should just do the vocals 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: all you have to do to fix the entire map 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: to make it vocal mapped 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: is shift the starting LNs 1/4 back
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: and you're done 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: while if you do guitar you have to remap a whole lot
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: huh
2017-09-20 18:43 CrumpetFiddler: i mean yeah i see what you mean
2017-09-20 18:43 CrumpetFiddler: im not sure how much will need to be fixed to have it mapped to the vocals but as it stands i think that would be more "fun"
2017-09-20 18:43 Litharrale: all you have to do for it to be mapped to the vocals is move this 00:02:685 (2685|1) - back to start on the blue tick
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: and have this 00:02:274 (2274|0) - end at the same blue tick
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: then repeat for the other LN block at the start
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: I love the way it plays like that too 
2017-09-20 18:44 CrumpetFiddler: lemme move your diff out before i start editing
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: because you have a little 1/4 stair in the middle that plays great
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: so this is insane right
2017-09-20 18:45 Litharrale: ye
2017-09-20 18:45 Litharrale: https://puu.sh/xEhlu/787f295e47.mp4 video
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131846 so make it look like this yea https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131846
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: woops lol
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: you didnt need to make a video XD
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: hey i like making videos you cant stop me
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: altho puush is nice like that
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: play it and see how it feels
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: sure
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: hmm
2017-09-20 18:47 CrumpetFiddler: 00:02:480 (2480|2,2685|3) -  these being in bewtween the end feel odd
2017-09-20 18:47 CrumpetFiddler: that might just be me being nitpicky
2017-09-20 18:47 Litharrale: I love it 
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: Thats good to hear
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: Its good seeing progress finally aha
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: did it for the second section aswell
2017-09-20 18:49 Litharrale: fucking fuck
2017-09-20 18:49 Litharrale: i tried to delete the diff i made and i accidentally deleted the whole thing
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/fMSKe3K.png fucking
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: rip lol
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: alright phone data dont let me down
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: so all ive done is moved those 2 sections at the start the tick down as per your video
2017-09-20 18:52 Litharrale: alright back at it
2017-09-20 18:53 Litharrale: 00:06:178 (6178|0,6178|1) - btw the doubles on the red ticks 
2017-09-20 18:53 Litharrale: justification is the guitar sound yeah?
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: theres a kinda uuuuu
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: sounn
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: fd
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: sound!
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: fuck english
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: ._.
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: ill just uh 
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: accept that as it is 
2017-09-20 18:55 CrumpetFiddler: in which case its possible that it might need to be moved down a tick
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: nah keep it
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: dont want too many 1/4 rhythms in there
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|2,34432|3,34432|1,34535|2) - these patterns imo are really uncomfortable to play 
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: I get that they're not 12|34 for variety
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: but idk if the uncomfortableness is worth the variety factor
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: internets dying on me a bit
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: did you get my message about the jumptrill patterns
2017-09-20 18:58 CrumpetFiddler: About 15 times
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: LOL
2017-09-20 18:59 CrumpetFiddler: ill savelog just for you lol
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: if you dont end up changing them 
2017-09-20 18:59 CrumpetFiddler: so the sounds they are there for are apparent
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: balance the direction they go in 
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: sounds?
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: like for these 00:49:124 (49124|0,49124|2,49226|3,49226|1,49329|2) - ?
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: to balance the direction
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: 100:49:124 (49124|2,49124|0,49226|1,49226|3,49329|2) - just gotta flip this yeah?
2017-09-20 19:01 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 19:01 Litharrale: ctrl+h and fix the stack and its all g
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: Yeo
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: Yep
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: all done
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: gratz your insane is now rankable
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: Actual?
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: yep
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: well
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: i know normal will take some time
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: but thats because the initial design isnt my own
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: wait
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: is your GDer not doing it anymore?
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: Lol no
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: he made it about 6 months ago
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: ive done everything to it
2017-09-20 19:04 Litharrale: How close is it to the original?
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: 6 months moddings worth
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: i already considered removing his name from it
2017-09-20 19:05 Litharrale: im gonna find out if you should or not dw
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: but i spoke to maxus and he said thats a no-go
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: you can ask others if you want tho
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: yeah my gut feeling is you dont but 
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: meh
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: find out later
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: Hard time
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: ;)
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: id prefer it not be hard
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: but ah well lol
2017-09-20 19:07 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|3) - make the vocals consistent with the insane here
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: alright
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: did that
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-20 19:07 Litharrale: abraxos said keep the name on discord and ill trust him
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:384 (6384|2,6384|3,6795|2) - should i flip these
2017-09-20 19:08 Litharrale: 00:05:562 (5562|0) -  here too
2017-09-20 19:08 Litharrale: why?
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: nah ive done it
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: so that each ln has its own col
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: or doesnt matter
2017-09-20 19:09 Litharrale: yeah go for it 
2017-09-20 19:09 Litharrale: both play fine
2017-09-20 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: cool ill do that
2017-09-20 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: that keeps consistant with insane aswell
2017-09-20 19:10 Litharrale: 00:07:411 (7411|0) - move to 3 and move 00:07:617 (7617|2) -  to 1 
2017-09-20 19:10 Litharrale: breaks up the handtrill in 1|2
2017-09-20 19:10 CrumpetFiddler: are you a 1234 or a 0123
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: yes
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: wut
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: 1234
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: yes isnt an answer to that
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:12 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|3,7617|3,8028|3,8439|3,8850|3) - idk how I feel about this stack but I cant see a viable option to changing it 
2017-09-20 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: it does go for a while
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: its only 5 though and the bpm is low 
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: it's ok
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: 00:10:288 (10288|2) - move to 2 
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: imo making a stack plays well after the loud snare because you've got nothing else emphasising it
2017-09-20 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: true
2017-09-20 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: that sounds better
2017-09-20 19:14 Litharrale: 00:14:398 (14398|2) - remove, in the hard this is a double and in the insane its a single 
2017-09-20 19:15 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 19:17 Litharrale: 00:16:452 (16452|1,16555|0,16658|1,16658|2) - this is a little uncomfortable to play, try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131919
2017-09-20 19:17 Litharrale: it's still a little weird because of the first SN being squished between the two LNs but it is better imo
2017-09-20 19:18 CrumpetFiddler: it does look better
2017-09-20 19:19 Litharrale: 00:25:596 (25596|1,25699|2,25802|1) - 2|3 trills in low diffs are eh, just smooth it out a bit
2017-09-20 19:20 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|3,34432|0) - making these doubles is fine, as singles they play kind of weird since the player is expecting a double anyway for the beat 
2017-09-20 19:20 Litharrale: just dont make the ones in the LN clusters doubles and probably only do 12|34 ones
2017-09-20 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: hows that
2017-09-20 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131932
2017-09-20 19:21 CrumpetFiddler: so with those notes you say to make doubles
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: eh i dont like that stack on col 4
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: lhttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131937
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: i got that
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: maybe something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131936
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: yeah thats good
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: ill keep that consistant then
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: your little screenshot actually feels pretty fun
2017-09-20 19:23 Litharrale: 00:36:178 (36178|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131939 mix these patterns up a bit 
2017-09-20 19:23 Litharrale: :&)
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: that theres needs the doubles
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: same as earlier
2017-09-20 19:24 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131941
2017-09-20 19:24 CrumpetFiddler: something like that?
2017-09-20 19:24 Litharrale: looks good 
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: ok fuck i forgot this set has a video
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: cool
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: i cant download it because shitty internet 
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: yeah lol
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: so do me a huge favour
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: just the outro nothing special
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: and make sure it fits the ranking criteria
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: what up
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: I made sure it was done well
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: sweet
2017-09-20 19:25 *cough* ripped it from the ranked version *cough*
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: 00:38:439 (38439|0) -  https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131945 
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: spot the issue
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: do remember it is a stream
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: but damn
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: yeah it doesnt actually play that badly 
2017-09-20 19:27 Litharrale: its ok you dont have to change it 
2017-09-20 19:27 Litharrale: i would expect another BN to at least mention it though
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: like i can take jacks out of context too buddy ;)
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: how could i change it tho
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: i would rather it be as good as it can get
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: uh just remap the pattern 
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: like 00:38:439 (38439|0) - 
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: (dont do that one)
2017-09-20 19:29 CrumpetFiddler: wut
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale:  im retarded
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131951
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale: meant that link
2017-09-20 19:30 Litharrale: from 00:43:165 to 00:45:220 you have 1 note in col 4 
2017-09-20 19:31 Litharrale: reeee timestamps work pls 
2017-09-20 19:31 Litharrale: you get the idea even if the link did fuck up
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: modified ur screenshot a little
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: feels good tho
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: just the end part https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131959
2017-09-20 19:33 CrumpetFiddler: the end of the one you sent played a tad weird
2017-09-20 19:33 Litharrale: looks good 
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: that col 4 suggestion is the last one for this diff
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: 00:43:576 (43576|0) -  moved to col 4
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: looking solid af
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: 00:44:603 (44603|1) -I'd suggest moving this to 4 as well 
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: it fits with the rise and fall of the vocals
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: do easy next tho
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: i want normal last lol
2017-09-20 19:35 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah i can justify that
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: nah lets do normal first cause while I'm going, I'm comparing it to the diff above for spread issues 
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: so if we do easy then normal it might screw things up
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: get it out of the way :^)
2017-09-20 19:35 CrumpetFiddler: aww XD
2017-09-20 19:36 Litharrale: 00:00:631 (631|3) - what's this mapped to?
2017-09-20 19:36 Litharrale: oh man this map is whack
2017-09-20 19:36 CrumpetFiddler: i considered deleting it for some time
2017-09-20 19:37 CrumpetFiddler: its so far off from the originals, almost feels out of place
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: 00:07:411 (7411|3,7617|2,7822|1,8028|3,8233|2,8439|1,8644|3,8850|2,9055|1) - very repetitive 
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: whats ur intake tho
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: consider deletion, or work with it
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: i mean
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: just from looking at the map now 
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: if the whole spread was like this
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: i would not rank it 
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: i want you to be real
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: I dont really like it
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: im not going to pretend that i do
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: What I'd suggest doing 
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: is just deleting it
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: it's a short song so it wont take long 
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: id be happy to tbh
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: and ranking it with this might be 
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: idk
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: regretful
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: i can change the diff name to easy normal hard
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: people kept telling me to rename insane anyway
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: .............i was gonna bring that up
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: Lol
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: you could do that 
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: but
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/lSZNtgG.png
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: alot of people have told me
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: im aware of that issue
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: you'd have two "hards"
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: whats normal <2.5?
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale:  uh
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: maybe
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: since easy ends at 1.5
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: just remap it 
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: deleting would cause a lot of problems 
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: ;-;
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: like now your spread is weird, you'd have to gimp the hard or buff the easy 
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: and that'd ruin them
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: Remapping at this stage
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: or you can go with it is as it is
2017-09-20 19:42 it's not *terrible*
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: it needs heavy fixing if anything
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: Up to you 
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: decide quick cause i gotta go in 17 mins 
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: and i wanna be able to be happy with this by then
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: im gunna regret this
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: keep it
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: aight
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: fix that repetitive patteren
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|0) - move to 3 to stop the LN stack
2017-09-20 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: yes mum
2017-09-20 19:44 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:44 Litharrale: 00:13:165 (13165|1) - maybe move to 1 to fix hand blaance
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
2017-09-20 19:45 Litharrale: 00:24:055 (24055|0,24261|3) - should be doubles
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: the end half of the song is better
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: the intro is mostly the shittest part
2017-09-20 19:45 Litharrale: 00:25:288 (25288|0,25494|2,25596|1,25699|3,25802|2,25904|0,26007|3,26110|1) - this pattern hurts my brain
2017-09-20 19:46 CrumpetFiddler: i just remade one, what would you go for
2017-09-20 19:46 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/rWm0jzU.png
2017-09-20 19:47 Litharrale: 00:38:644 (38644|1) - move to 1 for balance
2017-09-20 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: i had a pattern almost identical lol
2017-09-20 19:47 Litharrale: 00:49:226 (49226|3) - move to 1 for the flow and to break the stack
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: yeah i get that
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: this ver is really different from the others, isnt that okay for a gd tho?
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: 900:53:233 (53233|1,53644|0) - flip them
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: yeah its fine 
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: well "gd"\
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: thats all the easy to fix stuff 
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: flip what
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|1,53644|0) - 
2017-09-20 19:49 Litharrale: wtf the link doesnt work
2017-09-20 19:49 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|0,53644|1) - 
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: thats better
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: ill update real quick
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: just re-skim normal
2017-09-20 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: also ill probably rename insane to Hard + or something
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: nono dont do that 
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: Loctav the other day was ranting about people who name diffs with "+" in them
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: insane is fine 
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: its not perfect
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: but
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: meh
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: alternatively you could give it a custom name
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: like 
2017-09-20 19:51 CrumpetFiddler: Lol
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: idfk
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Thats a bad diff name
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: i dont know dragonball z that well ):
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: kame house
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: (dont do this)
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Thats dragon ball super
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Smh
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|2) - move to 1 for hand balance
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: easy yeah?
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: 00:02:891 (2891|0) -  to 3
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: yeah easy
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: 00:03:096 (3096|1) - to 1
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: 00:03:507 (3507|0) -  to 2
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: this change doesnt really do a lot, i just think it plays slightly better
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: uhhh
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: that makes it worse
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: wait
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: i cant read basic instructions mb
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: hue
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|2) - not doing anything special for this one feels wrong 
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: imo either make it a double or put the next note in the same column
2017-09-20 19:55 CrumpetFiddler: ill move that note to col 4
2017-09-20 19:55 Litharrale: 00:20:357 (20357|0) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132022 this pattern follows pitch better
2017-09-20 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i can see that
2017-09-20 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: plays as it sounds
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: 00:14:192 - imo you should add a note here and here 00:14:603 for the beat 
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: since all the other LNs fall onto the beat excpet these two 
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: the faster 1/2 rhythm actually fits with the vocals too 
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: that second one didnt work
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: but ik where
2017-09-20 19:58 Litharrale: 00:14:603
2017-09-20 19:58 Litharrale: check the time in the bottom left
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: i did
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: but ur link didnt work thats all i said lol
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132032
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: oh
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: (
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: 00:42:049 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132031
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: moved em around a bit
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: so there were no stacks
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: 00:27:754 (27754|3) - move to 1 for hand balance
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: ahhhhh its 8pm
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: lets finish quick
2017-09-20 20:00 CrumpetFiddler: 8pm isnt that late lol
2017-09-20 20:00 CrumpetFiddler: and aight XD
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: nah i just promised myself id go to the library and study 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: and if i dont im gonna be behind
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: the library
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: at 8pm?
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: yeah my uni library is open till 1am
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: geez lol
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: alright 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: crumpet 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: ill make you a deal
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: Yep?
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: sounds shady
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: while im gone 
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: if you recheck all the hitsounds 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: on all the diffs
2017-09-20 20:02 Litharrale: and make all the BGs 1080p
2017-09-20 20:02 Litharrale: ill bubble it
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: arnt all the bgs already 1080p?
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: but alright
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: ill check the hitsounds
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: they're 1080p in resolution
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: but it looks like they've been upscaled from 720p
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: shouldnt be hard to find good art for DBZ
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: if they are, is that bad?
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: DBS
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: !!!!
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: uh if you ask most people, they'd say no
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: unfortunately for you, i do care :^)
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: make it pretty pls
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: alright, lol ill change the images XD or find others that fit lol
2017-09-20 20:04 Litharrale: kk GL, send me a message on discord when you're done
2017-09-20 20:04 CrumpetFiddler: alright bb
2017-09-20 21:58 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|2) - hard and insane have a F here but easy and norm dont
2017-09-20 21:58 CrumpetFiddler: aww
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: i thought i had it perfect
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: I think thats it :P
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: Damn'
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: 1 kds
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: where do u want it boi
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: save it 
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: im gonna upload a 7k set soon 
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: (:
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: Kd is irrelevant for me
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: Oh
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: ew 7k
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: okay okay
2017-09-20 22:00 Litharrale: tell me when you update it
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: just remind me when that does come XD
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: oh shit
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: cant wait to put that in the changelog
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: added 1 hitsound
2017-09-20 22:00 Litharrale: lul
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: alright, thats done
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: also, i love that insane bg now
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: looks so cool

Fixed all hitsound inconsistencies and smoothed over a couple of issues. Changed BGs too

thanks for the mod and bubble buddy <3

i'm so happy to see this map finally moving forward.

I'm very grateful for everyone who modded and especially thankful for those who took their time to help me immensely (you know who you are) again, thanks <3

Sandalphon

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Sandalphon 2017-09-21T10:18:13+00:00

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[General]
Not really important but the kiai time seems a bit too long, try to end the first kiai at 00:38:439 - then start the next one at 00:40:083 - (which is as same as the first kiai 00:26:932 - )

Change the source to ドラゴンボール超 then move the old one to tag (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/)

[EZ]
00:10:288 (10288|3) - suggest you to move this note to 00:10:494 - , so you can emphasize the guitar sound 00:10:494 - and a "stop" feeling after the snare drum 00:10:083 -
00:15:425 (15425|1,15836|2,16247|1) - I know you want to follow the vocal here, but the guitar sound is quite catchy plus you did follow the guitar at 00:15:014 (15014|0) - and piano 00:13:781 (13781|3,14398|2) - . Change from instrument to vocal all of a sudden is bit weird, change to img perhaps
00:22:000 (22000|1,22617|0) - I dont think there is a break in the vocal (yes for guitar there is a break, but you are focusing on vocal right?)
00:23:233 (23233|3) - If this LN is for the drum roll, it starts at 00:23:028 -
00:38:644 (38644|3) - Using one LN to cover two 1/4 (one at 00:38:644 - another one at 00:39:055 - ) is not a good idea, suggest you change them to normal notes img(with 1/2 trills to show the drum roll)
00:51:589 (51589|3) - Extend this LN till 00:53:233 - if its for the bell sound
[NM]
00:23:028 - Dont really like people using too much 1/4 on a NM diff, from LN (pattern in EZ at this part) jump to 1/4, the gap is quite big. Change to 1/2 normal note i will say
00:25:288 - Same here, the 1/2 double is already quite heavy, you might want to try this img
00:38:439 - Like i said, img change to 1/2 normal notes and use 1/2 jack to increase intensity to show the 1/4 (not gonna mention this 1/4 is ghost note 00:38:952 -
00:52:411 - Here too

Last two diff are already good enough, just remember my mod on EZ, 00:15:836 (15836|2,16247|1) - , if you apply, remember to change these two on Hard and Insane

~~Call me after you finish~~ actually try to catch me in game, want to talk some stuff about EZ

Crumpey

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Topic Starter

Crumpey 2017-09-21T12:52:18+00:00

YaHao wrote:
Qualify check
[General]
Not really important but the kiai time seems a bit too long, try to end the first kiai at 00:38:439 - then start the next one at 00:40:083 - (which is as same as the first kiai 00:26:932 - )

Changed, makes more sense

Change the source to ドラゴンボール超 then move the old one to tag (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/)

Makes sense to me
[EZ]
00:10:288 (10288|3) - suggest you to move this note to 00:10:494 - , so you can emphasize the guitar sound 00:10:494 - and a "stop" feeling after the snare drum 00:10:083 - makes it stand out, me likey

00:15:425 (15425|1,15836|2,16247|1) - I know you want to follow the vocal here, but the guitar sound is quite catchy plus you did follow the guitar at
00:15:014 (15014|0) - and piano 00:13:781 (13781|3,14398|2) - . Change from instrument to vocal all of a sudden is bit weird, change to img perhaps whoops, my bad fixed
00:22:000 (22000|1,22617|0) - I dont think there is a break in the vocal (yes for guitar there is a break, but you are focusing on vocal right?) there is a small gap from when the vocalist ends and starts the next, almost like a breath kinda thing
00:23:233 (23233|3) - If this LN is for the drum roll, it starts at 00:23:028 - Your right there
00:38:644 (38644|3) - Using one LN to cover two 1/4 (one at 00:38:644 - another one at 00:39:055 - ) is not a good idea, suggest you change them to normal notes img(with 1/2 trills to show the drum roll) that feels alot more fun to play
00:51:589 (51589|3) - Extend this LN till 00:53:233 - if its for the bell sound Im not really sure why the ln was so short, thanks

[NM]
00:23:028 - Dont really like people using too much 1/4 on a NM diff, from LN (pattern in EZ at this part) jump to 1/4, the gap is quite big. Change to 1/2 normal note i will say i had the same feeling, normal felt more closer to hard than a small increase from easy, changed
00:25:288 - Same here, the 1/2 double is already quite heavy, you might want to try this img same as above
00:38:439 - Like i said, img change to 1/2 normal notes and use 1/2 jack to increase intensity to show the 1/4 (not gonna mention this 1/4 is ghost note 00:38:952 - same as above
00:52:411 - Here too

Last two diff are already good enough, just remember my mod on EZ, 00:15:836 (15836|2,16247|1) - , if you apply, remember to change these two on Hard and Insane i didnt forget <3

~~Call me after you finish~~ actually try to catch me in game, want to talk some stuff about EZ

Sandalphon

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Sandalphon 2017-09-21T13:00:05+00:00

IRC

2017-09-21 20:09 CrumpetFiddler: aight, so ill update the mod you sent thru
2017-09-21 20:09 CrumpetFiddler: the one thing i didnt change is 00:22:000 (22000|1,22617|0) - I dont think there is a break in the vocal (yes for guitar there is a break, but you are focusing on vocal right?)
2017-09-21 20:09 CrumpetFiddler: besides that everything else was done
2017-09-21 20:10 YaHao: i'm cool with that
2017-09-21 20:10 CrumpetFiddler: Oh, real quick it says itll break the bubble?
2017-09-21 20:10 CrumpetFiddler: is that fine to still update?
2017-09-21 20:10 YaHao: yea one thing i didnt mention in mod is you whole kiai section in ez is kinda
2017-09-21 20:10 YaHao: (not gonna use the word boring
2017-09-21 20:10 CrumpetFiddler: Id rather you be blunt tbh
2017-09-21 20:11 YaHao: there are so many thing you could have followed
2017-09-21 20:11 YaHao: so starting from here
2017-09-21 20:11 YaHao: 00:26:932 - 
2017-09-21 20:12 CrumpetFiddler: yep
2017-09-21 20:12 YaHao: 00:29:398 (29398|1,29809|0,30220|2) - i'm sure you notice those are piano right?
2017-09-21 20:12 YaHao: you use LN in other diff for this kinda of sound
2017-09-21 20:12 CrumpetFiddler: i assumed using single notes would fit better for the "easy diff"
2017-09-21 20:13 CrumpetFiddler: would lns fit better?
2017-09-21 20:13 YaHao: so you might want to shift 00:29:603 (29603|2,30014|1,30425|0) - 1/2 down to make the piano double and ignore the 1/2 hihat
2017-09-21 20:13 YaHao: otherwise the whole section just spaming 1/2 note without any changes
2017-09-21 20:14 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-21 20:14 CrumpetFiddler: oh i get it, i was thinking 1/4th down
2017-09-21 20:14 CrumpetFiddler: nah that makes sense
2017-09-21 20:15 YaHao: up to you
2017-09-21 20:16 CrumpetFiddler: nah it looks better, the whole map pre much played the same with minor exceptions
2017-09-21 20:16 YaHao: ok
2017-09-21 20:16 YaHao: and one more thing on hard
2017-09-21 20:16 YaHao: actually on hard and insane
2017-09-21 20:16 CrumpetFiddler: is that the only change?
2017-09-21 20:17 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247174 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Hard]]
2017-09-21 20:17 CrumpetFiddler: uuh
2017-09-21 20:17 CrumpetFiddler: one sec
2017-09-21 20:17 CrumpetFiddler: on easy
2017-09-21 20:17 YaHao: sure
2017-09-21 20:17 CrumpetFiddler: is this part the same deal?
2017-09-21 20:17 CrumpetFiddler: 00:42:548 (42548|0,42754|2,42959|1,43165|3) -
2017-09-21 20:18 YaHao: yea
2017-09-21 20:18 YaHao: 00:42:754 (42754|2,43165|3,43576|1) - move down 1/2
2017-09-21 20:18 YaHao: if you want to change pattern feel free to
2017-09-21 20:19 CrumpetFiddler: ill recheck the pattern after we're done here, but as it stands it looks pretty good
2017-09-21 20:19 YaHao: sure thing
2017-09-21 20:19 YaHao: move to hard?
2017-09-21 20:20 CrumpetFiddler: Sure
2017-09-21 20:20 CrumpetFiddler: thats all i really had to bring up about easy
2017-09-21 20:21 YaHao: here 00:30:220 - 
2017-09-21 20:22 YaHao: isnt it same sound with 00:29:398 (29398|0,29809|3) - 
2017-09-21 20:22 YaHao: i mean you can hear 3 piano in total right?
2017-09-21 20:22 CrumpetFiddler: Hmm yeah
2017-09-21 20:22 YaHao: so i'm thinking maybe its worth to add a LN from 00:30:220 - here to 00:31:041 - 
2017-09-21 20:23 CrumpetFiddler: for both hard and insane i assume for both sections?
2017-09-21 20:23 YaHao: yes
2017-09-21 20:25 CrumpetFiddler: just as a confirmation
2017-09-21 20:25 CrumpetFiddler: something like this?
2017-09-21 20:25 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9139837
2017-09-21 20:25 YaHao: yep
2017-09-21 20:26 YaHao: 00:43:370 - here to ;)
2017-09-21 20:27 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9139846 way ahead of ya ;)
2017-09-21 20:27 CrumpetFiddler: are they the only changes for each?
2017-09-21 20:27 YaHao: :0
2017-09-21 20:27 YaHao: and one more
2017-09-21 20:27 YaHao: 00:47:480 (47480|2,47583|3) - double?
2017-09-21 20:27 YaHao: 00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|1,34432|2,34432|3,35973|3,35973|2,36076|1,36076|0) - i think they are the same
2017-09-21 20:28 CrumpetFiddler: 00:45:836 (45836|0,45939|2) -  for consistancy, no?
2017-09-21 20:28 YaHao: hmmm
2017-09-21 20:28 YaHao: one sec
2017-09-21 20:28 CrumpetFiddler: oh
2017-09-21 20:29 YaHao: isnt you used the smae pattern here 00:32:685 (32685|0,32788|3,32891|1) - but still double the 1/4 thats after?00:34:329 (34329|1,34329|0,34432|3,34432|2) - 
2017-09-21 20:30 YaHao: i think thats it from me
2017-09-21 20:31 YaHao: take you time, no need to rush

glhf ~~more tv size~~

Mirea

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Mirea 2017-09-21T13:25:33+00:00

ok this song got stuck on my head
congrats <3

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-09-24T09:36:12+00:00

the romanised title should be STARRING STAR or Starring STAR?

it's stated in video description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCaDLEsqRhY and single cover

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please let us know where you find yours

Sandalphon

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Sandalphon 2017-09-24T12:58:19+00:00

Yea, thats probably the correct title
official album page

~~Damn~~ ;w;

Crumpey

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Crumpey 2017-09-24T13:28:00+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
the romanised title should be STARRING STAR or Starring STAR?

it's stated in video description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCaDLEsqRhY and single cover

SPOILER

please let us know where you find yours

I found mine from googling KEYTALK Songs ( real original) and google shows all songs they have done, "Starring Star" is listed there, but thats not particularly a very trusted source, and it links to some random user uploaded youtube channel

Ive changed the romanised title to STARRING STAR and ready to update

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IamKwaN 2017-09-24T13:42:53+00:00

poke me when it's ready again

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IamKwaN 2017-09-24T14:01:33+00:00

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