MX
decrease OD, too hard with these SVs and LNs
01:38:105 (98105|3,98105|0) - you can make this more interesting, the "breathing" is very noticeable, make it triple or 1/4 double LN (just suggestion).
01:39:305 (99305|3,99305|0) - ^
01:48:755 (108755|1,108755|3,108755|0) - CTRL+H maybe, this sound differs from 01:48:005 (108005|3,108005|0,108005|1,108155|3,108155|0,108155|1,108455|3,108455|1,108455|0,108605|1,108605|3,108605|0,108905|0,108905|1,108905|3)



MX pattern here is easier than HD pattern, you can swap patterns between MX and HD

consider that^ to this part too 01:55:205

HD
01:28:205 (88205|1) - and 01:30:605 (90605|0) - should be doubles for consistency with 01:29:405 (89405|1,89405|3) - 01:33:005 (93005|2,93005|0)

Thanks for the random mod lol, need some tbh

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eyes wrote:

MX
decrease OD, too hard with these SVs and LNs Probably true, i love high OD which is why i decide to make it high OD. I'll change OD to 8.4 and HP to 8.2.
01:38:105 (98105|3,98105|0) - you can make this more interesting, the "breathing" is very noticeable, make it triple or 1/4 double LN (just suggestion). I think the breathing SV is enough
01:39:305 (99305|3,99305|0) - ^ ^
01:48:755 (108755|1,108755|3,108755|0) - CTRL+H maybe, this sound differs from 01:48:005 (108005|3,108005|0,108005|1,108155|3,108155|0,108155|1,108455|3,108455|1,108455|0,108605|1,108605|3,108605|0,108905|0,108905|1,108905|3) That's what i did origanally changed it because i got complains (prolly not the best reason to change something lol) Gonna change it back xd (and the one later)



MX pattern here is easier than HD pattern, you can swap patterns between MX and HD I think the opposite, since its just a simple jump trill in HD and a more complex jump trill in MX. No change

consider that^ to this part too 01:55:205 (same as above)

HD
01:28:205 (88205|1) - and 01:30:605 (90605|0) - should be doubles for consistency with 01:29:405 (89405|1,89405|3) - 01:33:005 (93005|2,93005|0) Both of the latter ones are 2 sounds (Synth respectively Piano), that's why they're doubles while the former are only the "ding" sound. That's why they aren't doubles. No change.

Thanks for the mod, will update (and give kudosu) after ro16 is finished ! OH and btw, thanks for the stars ! !

MX
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00:23:405 (23405|2) - if following the subtle synth, move the LN to 00:23:255 (23255|3)

00:30:980 (30980|2) - if you're following that subtle higher synth, it sounds polyrhythmic to me and might belong on 1/3 after, not 1/4.

00:33:380 (33380|1) - ^, similar situation.

00:37:955 (37955|0,37955|2,37955|3) - I'd personally reduce this triple to a double to give more power to the snares at 00:37:805 (37805|1,37805|0,37805|3) and 00:38:255 (38255|2,38255|3,38255|0)

00:38:905 (38905|2) - short LN for the bass should technically be on the 1/2 at 00:38:855 (38855|0); this is true for all instances of this musically, but I can understand not being the most keen on altering the pattern. A suggestion that I have here is to remove the last note of each burst to make it end on a 1/2: that way, you can have the last note be an LN into a triple, and it'll be a bit less awkward to time because it lands on a more natural rhythm.

00:40:505 (40505|1,40505|0,40505|3) - two previous triples have LN on 1, so adding here would be a bit more consistent structurally (though a little bit meaner SV-wise)

00:42:305 (42305|1,42305|3,42305|0) - add LN to 1 to correspond with the LN at 00:42:755 (42755|1)

00:42:155 (42155|2) - could potentially add LN for knocking sound

00:44:705 (44705|2,44705|3,44855|1,44855|0) - add short LN on 2 and 1 respectively to correspond with the LN at 00:45:155 (45155|2,45305|1)

00:50:105 (50105|1,50105|0,50105|3) - see 00:40:505 - two previous triples have LN on 1; adding here is good and more structurally consistent, but a bit tougher in terms of SV difficulty

00:51:755 (51755|2) - could add LN for knocking sound here as well

00:54:305 (54305|2,54305|3,54455|0,54455|1) - add short LN on 2 and 1 respectively to correspond with the LN at 00:54:755 (54755|2,54905|1)

00:59:705 (59705|2) - LN to 1 to correpsond with 00:59:255 (59255|2) for better consistency, same as before

01:01:355 (61355|2,61355|1) - another knock; could be worth adding LN to as well

01:03:905 (63905|2,63905|3,64055|0,64055|1) - LN on 2 and 1, to correspond with 01:04:355 (64355|2,64505|1)

01:09:305 (69305|2) - etc, based off this location in the music you likely know what to do here

01:13:505 (73505|2,73655|1) - etc, based off this location, you likely know what to do here as well given the previous notes

01:15:155 (75155|2) - change to a double, since it's a bass kick

01:15:305 (75305|0,75305|1,75755|2,75755|1) - couple more opportunities for knocks; make these knocks single-note LNs so you can leave room for the bass kicks to be doubles and the snares to be triples

01:15:605 (75605|3,75605|0,75605|1,75905|2,75905|3,75905|0) - turn these triples into doubles, and, since they're the same exact instrument, make them the same double, something like [01] 2 [01] would be nice here to have the best instrument relevance

01:17:705 - add note

01:20:855 - add note

01:23:405 (83405|0) - at the absolute minimum, there should be a note accompanying this LN for the closed hi-hat that plays here; if you want to accommodate for the echo of the hi-hats, then you should be adding notes at 01:22:955 and 01:23:255 as well; there are numerous notes missing from that section that either a.) should be applied, or b.) the notes at 01:21:155 (81155|2,81455|1) should be removed so that they're not random

01:28:205 (88205|0) - i'm not entirely sure what this LN goes to; I feel like it's that shorter, almost "drop" sound, and if that's the case, you should turn this into a staccato LN (and add another at 01:29:405 (89405|0) as well)

01:30:305 (90305|3,90455|1) - shorten the first LN, make the second note an LN since there is a running bass there

01:35:105 (95105|1,95142|2) - incorrect rhythm; there is a bit of a flam here, but the note actually comes 1/4 before the 1/1, so you should have a note at 01:35:105, and one at 01:35:030 (instead of 01:35:142).

01:49:430 (109430|2) - this note seems kinda generalized, don't know if it exists in the music and it being an LN means there's some attention paid to it, not sure what to think of it

01:49:805 (109805|0,109805|3,109805|1) - unless you are hard-pressed to leave quads ONLY for the heavy bass, make this clap a quad to separate it from the other triples, it's quite loud and deserves an accent of its own

01:50:067 (110067|2,110105|0,110255|3,110292|1) - these flams also kinda stand out as strange to me as well

02:09:267 (129267|1,129305|3,129455|0,129492|2) - ^, etc

02:10:355 - missing note for the knock, and you can add it since there are no SVs getting in the way here

chippin' in, always in support of the SV arts <3

Ohh a halogen mod, this gon' be good.

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Halogen- wrote:

MX
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00:23:405 (23405|2) - if following the subtle synth, move the LN to 00:23:255 (23255|3) Sound correct to me, knew there were something wrong with these mini LN placements, just didn't spend enough time to correct them i guess. Extended them to 1/2's as well since the synth plays a half-note.

00:30:980 (30980|2) - if you're following that subtle higher synth, it sounds polyrhythmic to me and might belong on 1/3 after, not 1/4. Had this originally, felt off at the time, but it is definitely a 1/6th of a beat later.

00:33:380 (33380|1) - ^, similar situation. Yeah, its off by 1/12th of a beat.

00:37:955 (37955|0,37955|2,37955|3) - I'd personally reduce this triple to a double to give more power to the snares at 00:37:805 (37805|1,37805|0,37805|3) and 00:38:255 (38255|2,38255|3,38255|0) Honestly don't know why that's a triple, since the following notes uses the same sound while being a double. I should probably double check my maps after completing them to be honest. Changed it to a double and rearranged the pattern (might be too easy now /shrug).

00:38:905 (38905|2) - short LN for the bass should technically be on the 1/2 at 00:38:855 (38855|0); this is true for all instances of this musically, but I can understand not being the most keen on altering the pattern. A suggestion that I have here is to remove the last note of each burst to make it end on a 1/2: that way, you can have the last note be an LN into a triple, and it'll be a bit less awkward to time because it lands on a more natural rhythm. I'll probably do this, this would require me to restructure most of the burst, which would be a pain in the ass. Though it's my fault for not checking it properly in the beginning so can't really complain. ; ) Gonna remove the last note and extend the last normal note until the triple (need to remove some SV's as well).

00:40:505 (40505|1,40505|0,40505|3) - two previous triples have LN on 1, so adding here would be a bit more consistent structurally (though a little bit meaner SV-wise) Actually, there's no SV here, so this pattern is very fitting. Added for extra difficulty.

00:42:305 (42305|1,42305|3,42305|0) - add LN to 1 to correspond with the LN at 00:42:755 (42755|1) This is kind of 50/50 for me, there's clearly a sound when you play it at 25% speed but its hardly audible at 100% (imo at least), and since it goes from high pitch into the low pitch of 00:42:755 (42755|1) i think the LN should be at 3 and not 1. Added a LN to 3.

00:42:155 (42155|2) - could potentially add LN for knocking sound Think this would create an awkward ln hold + you usually don't hold down your hand when you knock, so normal notes mimick this better then LNs imo.

00:44:705 (44705|2,44705|3,44855|1,44855|0) - add short LN on 2 and 1 respectively to correspond with the LN at 00:45:155 (45155|2,45305|1) Two different sounds imo, added LNs at 00:45:155 (45155|2,45305|1) to represent the "bass" sound (it was originally a stream/burst but felt like LNs would bring forth the sound better).

00:50:105 (50105|1,50105|0,50105|3) - see 00:40:505 - two previous triples have LN on 1; adding here is good and more structurally consistent, but a bit tougher in terms of SV difficulty Same as previous (point 6)

00:51:755 (51755|2) - could add LN for knocking sound here as well Same as previous (point 8)

00:54:305 (54305|2,54305|3,54455|0,54455|1) - add short LN on 2 and 1 respectively to correspond with the LN at 00:54:755 (54755|2,54905|1) Same as previous (point 9)

00:59:705 (59705|2) - LN to 1 to correpsond with 00:59:255 (59255|2) for better consistency, same as before Same as previous (point 6)
The song's too repetitive lol (and my map).

01:01:355 (61355|2,61355|1) - another knock; could be worth adding LN to as well Same as previous (point 8) This is almost as repetitive as my map

01:03:905 (63905|2,63905|3,64055|0,64055|1) - LN on 2 and 1, to correspond with 01:04:355 (64355|2,64505|1) Same as previous (point 9) Starting to run out of things to say, need to work on my creativity ; ) )

01:09:305 (69305|2) - etc, based off this location in the music you likely know what to do here LOL, yep. Just a tiny bit. Changed the rest as previously stated.

01:13:505 (73505|2,73655|1) - etc, based off this location, you likely know what to do here as well given the previous notes ^

01:15:155 (75155|2) - change to a double, since it's a bass kick This would remove the emphasis from the snare drums though. Gonna move it from 2 -> 3 to create a jack and emphasize it that way. Actually, read the next point, changed the bass a double.

01:15:305 (75305|0,75305|1,75755|2,75755|1) - couple more opportunities for knocks; make these knocks single-note LNs so you can leave room for the bass kicks to be doubles and the snares to be triples Changed these to LNs to make the bass note fit, though this might mean that i need to change the precious knock sounds as well. I'll think about it, might update it at a later date with thoese fixes. Anyways, did some restructuring with the LNs and the bass notes.

01:15:605 (75605|3,75605|0,75605|1,75905|2,75905|3,75905|0) - turn these triples into doubles, and, since they're the same exact instrument, make them the same double, something like [01] 2 [01] would be nice here to have the best instrument relevance There's a high-hat sound during the 2nd triple so will keep that as it is, but changed the first. Bass sound on [03].

01:17:705 - add note Added, and changed the previous note to an LN. Made both LNs actually.

01:20:855 - add note yep

01:23:405 (83405|0) - at the absolute minimum, there should be a note accompanying this LN for the closed hi-hat that plays here; if you want to accommodate for the echo of the hi-hats, then you should be adding notes at 01:22:955 and 01:23:255 as well; there are numerous notes missing from that section that either a.) should be applied, or b.) the notes at 01:21:155 (81155|2,81455|1) should be removed so that they're not random Yep, agree. Think i were a bit cheap on the notes in this section, maybe because i wanted to emphisize the melody, i don't know, mapped that section like 3 months ago. Added notes to the "egg shaker" sounds + the echos. Might have done one too many, but it would feel way too inconsistent to not have it on the last beat.

01:28:205 (88205|0) - i'm not entirely sure what this LN goes to; I feel like it's that shorter, almost "drop" sound, and if that's the case, you should turn this into a staccato LN (and add another at 01:29:405 (89405|0) as well) There is some form of a note behind it, but it's very hard to hear. Added the LNs.

01:30:305 (90305|3,90455|1) - shorten the first LN, make the second note an LN since there is a running bass there The LN is there for the bass, the note is for the egg shaker, keeping it as it is.

01:35:105 (95105|1,95142|2) - incorrect rhythm; there is a bit of a flam here, but the note actually comes 1/4 before the 1/1, so you should have a note at 01:35:105, and one at 01:35:030 (instead of 01:35:142). Thanks for clearing this up, im awful when it comes to correctly using flams (even though it was a complete missplacement). Changed the note placement as well as the SV placement. Oh added an extra note for the snare as well.

01:49:430 (109430|2) - this note seems kinda generalized, don't know if it exists in the music and it being an LN means there's some attention paid to it, not sure what to think of it Eh. I can clearly hear a louder and different tone in the second smaller LN. Not 100% sure if it's at that exact time point, but close enought at least. Though it has been a bit of an annoyance in both the MX and HD difficulty whilest playing it, so there might be something to it. I'll keep it for now but might change it in the future.

01:49:805 (109805|0,109805|3,109805|1) - unless you are hard-pressed to leave quads ONLY for the heavy bass, make this clap a quad to separate it from the other triples, it's quite loud and deserves an accent of its own Nah, that fits. Changed it to a quad.

01:50:067 (110067|2,110105|0,110255|3,110292|1) - these flams also kinda stand out as strange to me as well They do to me too, though it feels really off (imo) to not have some sort of flam there. Might be subject to change in the future, but i'll keep it for now.

02:09:267 (129267|1,129305|3,129455|0,129492|2) - ^, etc As previous.

02:10:355 - missing note for the knock, and you can add it since there are no SVs getting in the way here That might have been a case of "i copied the 2nd half and forgot to check for deviations" oops : ) Added a LN.

chippin' in, always in support of the SV arts <3 Thank you very much! Always appreciate a long and informative mod, especially one that points out flaws i hadn't thought about before!

Gonna see if any of the points also applies to the HD diff, thanks again for the mod!



Edit:

Reverted a change in MX

Halogen- wrote:

01:17:705 - add note Didn't add a note but made the previous an LN

Added a couple of changes in HD, NM and EZ. Mostly this:

Halogen- wrote:

short LN for the bass should technically be on the 1/2 at 00:38:855 (38855|0); this is true for all instances of this musically, but I can understand not being the most keen on altering the pattern. A suggestion that I have here is to remove the last note of each burst to make it end on a 1/2: that way, you can have the last note be an LN into a triple, and it'll be a bit less awkward to time because it lands on a more natural rhythm.

Added a dl to the MWC vers of HD as well!

mp3 kds yes xd?

A r M i N wrote:

mp3 kds yes xd?

xd d d d, ofc mang

Hello
NM req from Umo-'s modding queue
Map is pretty solid imo so sorry if this mod is going to be short
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Pretty nice map
Good Luck!

Umo- wrote:

Hello
NM req from Umo-'s modding queue
Map is pretty solid imo so sorry if this mod is going to be short
No worries, any form of mod on this map is highly appreciated!
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HD

00:46:259 (46259|0,46259|1) - you could make this a triple hmm . . I've used doubles throughout the map for this kind of sound, so would rather keep it that way.
00:56:309 (56309|0,56309|3) - make this triple so it can be consistent with 00:54:659 - (same sound) Don't think it's the same sounds, thought i do agree that a triple could work here. Added.
01:17:759 - could add a LN here end end it at 01:17:909 - because there is a really loud sound and I think it would be cool if you followed it Don't think it really fits with the rest of the notes (since it's a 1/6th of a beat), might consider it though.
01:28:259 (88259|1) - it would be cool if you followed vocals with a LN at that part Can't hear any vocals here. Can hear a faint build up sound, but that's about it and i don't think it's loud enough to warrant a LN.
01:37:259 - why not just make a stair pattern here, imo it would follow the music better hmm . . I don't know, feel like that could work? but would need to be a LN hold stair pattern (unless you meant a stair pattern within the triples). Anyways, if one of the BNs says i need to mix it up a bit here since it's quite repetitive, i'll do it.
01:38:459 - ^ same as above

MX

00:50:909 (50909|2) - after listening to that LN at 25% speed I think that you should move it to 00:50:946 - Yep, used to have it like this, but changed it for simplicity reasons. Don't think i'll be reverting to that since i like the way it currently is.
01:31:859 (91859|2,91859|0) - make one of those a LN like you did at 01:29:459 - I'm pretty sure i used a mini LN there for the "ting" sound, otherwise i would've had it on all of the snare(?) sounds. Won't be changing it.
01:52:259 (112259|3,112259|2) - make this a triple I would do this if i hadn't made everyone of these sounds doubles, but i tried it out and it felt awkward to play, imo at least. Again if a BN points this out i might change it.
02:13:109 - could add a note here No, again i would do this (i'm not equally certain with this one as the last) but then i would need to change a multitude of the notes before. No change.

Pretty nice map
Good Luck! Thanks >.<

Sorry that i didn't end up using most of your suggestions! Most of them i were on the edge of changing or not.

Thanks a lot for the mod!

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Good map
JB SV
Good luck!

DustMoon wrote:

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EZ

1.00:30:059 (30059|2) - move to 4 for balance sure
2.00:38:159 (38159|2) - if you wanna to catch this durm,i suggest you catch this00:38:009 - if not,delete it to make00:37:709 (37709|0,37859|1,37859|3) - & 00:38:309 (38309|1,38459|0,38459|3) - joint Added the drum note. Think i wanted to decrease the sr while making it the first time, though i realise now that it doesn't flow very well.
3.if you accept 2. and delete00:38:159 (38159|2) -plz follow00:38:159 (38159|2) - i'm not sure what you mean here, but i didn't delete it so i guess it doesn't apply.
4.00:55:859 (55859|2) - move to 2,because00:54:959 (54959|2) - not same it True, it flows better as well.
5.01:16:859 (76859|0,76859|3) - 01:21:659 (81659|3,81659|0) - 01:26:459 (86459|3,86459|0) - reference your NM diffhttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8994578 ye, that was stupid of me.
6.01:36:059 (96059|1,96359|2) - Ctrl+h yep
7.01:44:459 - advice:https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8994589 idk about this one, feel like it would be a bit too hard for ez players (though i will consider it cuz my current pattern is pretty uncomfortable).
8.01:55:559 (115559|1,116009|0) - Ctrl+g,fun sure, seems better.
9.02:13:859 (133859|2) - soft,?why catch this Well it's a fairly loud sound + i wanted to keep it consistent with the rest of the diffs, but i guess its unnecessary

NM

1.00:25:146 (25146|1,25259|2) - what? It starts later than when it's meant to start, pretty sure that accurate.
2.01:15:509 (75509|3) - move to 2 Yep, looks good with the lowered pitch!
3.01:20:759 - add yep, added a LN
4.02:04:559 (124559|0,124709|3) - change pattern to (2,3) reference your HD diffhttps://puu.sh/xps7j/b1e98c5984.jpg Ye, you're right. It becomes an awkward 4 note trill otherwise so this is a lot better.

HD

1.00:38:459 (38459|0,38534|1) - Ctrl+g I have no idea why it was like that, changed it though.
2.01:12:284 (72284|2) - move to 2 for balance it's equally balanced no matter which one i choose, so i'll keep my current one since it looks better.

MX

ok :thinking:

Good map
JB SV
Good luck!

Thanks a lot for the mod. Really good mod!

For M4M

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[General]
Given this is an SV map, I would suggest lowering the OD and HP a bit, so be a bit more lenient and easier to pass compared to other maps with similar difficulty.

[EZ]
00:47:609 - a crash(?) is quite proiminent here. Add note?
01:06:809 - ^
01:23:459 (83459|1,84059|0) - swap for pitch
01:35:309 - This sound is actually quite loud. Add note?

[NM]
01:36:959 (96959|2) - this LN isn't even consistent with any LN around. I felt it should end at 01:37:109 - but all other LNs after this means it should end at 01:37:259 - , hm...
01:52:559 (112559|1) - this LN is inconsistent with 01:51:359 (111359|1) - and 01:53:759 (113759|1) - despite same sound
01:56:159 (116159|1) - same as 01:36:959 (96959|2) -

[HD]
seems fine

[MX]
seems fine

sorry if mod get short, because this is a very good map!! And I love SVs! good luck

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pwhk wrote:

For M4M

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[General]
Given this is an SV map, I would suggest lowering the OD and HP a bit, so be a bit more lenient and easier to pass compared to other maps with similar difficulty. Hmm . . Ye maybe i should do that but it's already soo low : ( ( ( I'll think about it and change it at a later date in that case.

[EZ]
00:47:609 - a crash(?) is quite proiminent here. Add note? Sounds like a cow-bell or something like that, but ye, added it since it probably fits better then w/o it.
01:06:809 - ^ ^ + some re-structure to make it fit.
01:23:459 (83459|1,84059|0) - swap for pitch Yep, i suck at pitches
01:35:309 - This sound is actually quite loud. Add note? Yep + removed 01:35:759 since it's way too quiet in comparison.

[NM]
01:36:959 (96959|2) - this LN isn't even consistent with any LN around. I felt it should end at 01:37:109 - but all other LNs after this means it should end at 01:37:259 - , hm... Though it's the same sound, it's only played once here while repeated twice on the others, making the sound end earlier. That's why it's inconsistent with the others.
01:52:559 (112559|1) - this LN is inconsistent with 01:51:359 (111359|1) - and 01:53:759 (113759|1) - despite same sound Again, not the same sound. I'm mapping the "breath" with the LNs at 01:51:359 (111359|1) & 01:52:559 (112559|1). While mapping the "white noise" at 01:53:759 (113759|1).
01:56:159 (116159|1) - same as 01:36:959 (96959|2) - Same answer ; )

[HD]
seems fine

[MX]
seems fine

sorry if mod get short, because this is a very good map!! And I love SVs! good luck

Thanks for the mod! Posted your mod as well!

Hi Couil!
Ok lets go!


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Ok GL~

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Envory wrote:

Hi Couil!
Ok lets go!


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HD

00:19:559 - I've a suggestionmay you add 1 note here for cymbal?? i feel weird if those part are accidentaly emptied .. maybe you can do this for all part of this diff.. like 00:20:759 - , 00:21:959 - , 00:23:159 - etc. Ehm, i tried this, but it gets really cluttered really fast + i like that there's a calm intro before the notes starts rushing it. Won't change.
00:32:459 (32459|2) - add 1 note pls To keep it consistent with the rest of the intro, i won't (mainly did this so it would be different from the MX diff.

MX

00:19:559 - same as i said at HD diff.. you can do at HD and MX diff only for more realistic and i think the cymbal was loud enough.. Same as HD, won't change (for now at least)
00:37:559 - add 1 note at col 4 The SV is going to feel less powerful if i add it here, so i'd rather not (since it becomes a 1/4 tempo in that case).
00:43:109 - add 1 note at col 3 for tick This sound is taken care of via the SVs.
01:11:909 - same ^ so didn't look empty ^
01:16:109 - add LN at col 3 Think this as well is taken care of via the SVs, though i might want to change them a bit to fit the music.
01:40:109 (100109|3,100109|0,100184|1,100184|2,100259|3,100259|0) - i suggest you re-arrange into anchor .. like this > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9026147 This one is 50/50 for me, the pattern you suggested works better than the current pattern in a isolated area, but since I've used doubles throughout to map snares it would be kind of weird to randomly just make it a triple. Though i might take it into consideration.

Ok GL~

Thanks for the mod! Sorry that i can't give kudosu : (

Added notes for the piano in the HD diff though.

hello


I like your map. But It would be better to use SV's that could at least provide some kind of prediction

Green = Applied, Blue = Maybe applied, Red = Not applied

Wonki wrote:

hello

MX

I'm not sure this is good svs. From a subjective viewpoint, it doesn't seem to imply anything. Maybe I was wrong, though. Well, they might looks weird since it looks like i just put random numbers everywhere, but they're actually calculated to make it look like there's the same amount of distance between the notes as there would be without SVs. This to make it easier to sightread/read in general. I've used this method for most of the SVs in the map. TL;DR they're like that to create the correct "visual distance".

00:56:609 (56609|1) - Drum sound at the upper part became single note due to 3 LNs. Change this LN into a normal note. And add a note here 00:56:909 - ye sure, feels better tbh.

01:17:384 - 01:17:459 - I think intended. if not, you should notes here Since it's the calm part i think it's better to keep it as one note, though i never even though about adding more than one note there lol.

01:18:359 - There is an obvious sound here, you should add a note maybe to 3? Since both you and Halogen ask me to do it I guess i should. Still think its weird but /shrug. Added a note at 1.

01:18:959 - 01:19:559 - same as above Think these are a bit weird imo, since i didn't map this sound before, gonna keep it as it is for now. Changed a couple of things in the slow part though since i'm still very unsure about it.

I like your map. But It would be better to use SV's that could at least provide some kind of prediction They're predictable imo : (

Thanks for the mod ! ! Will apply the changes shortly.

hit me up whenever you are ready because I am bubbling this

The work with the SV is so amazing, I don't imagine the time it might take you xD

Very great job man!

juankristal wrote:

hit me up whenever you are ready because I am bubbling this

: o o o o o

Pachiru wrote:

The work with the SV is so amazing, I don't imagine the time it might take you xD

Very great job man!

Actually, it's really easy once you get a hang of it, since you only need to be a bit creative and plug some numbers into a formula. Probably only took me about 8-10 hours to map the SVs. Though I really appreciate the kind words! Thanks a bunch!

:eyes:

Green = Applied, Blue = Maybe applied or applied with small changes, Red = Not applied

juankristal wrote:

NM

00:37:559 (37559|1) - I am not sure about keeping this one up, the HD doesnt use it and idk. It helps following the rythm but its up to you I guess. Ye i should probably keep it consistent throughout the diffs and since i didn't do it in any of the other diffs i might as well also remove it herel.

00:52:559 (52559|2) - Maybe move that one to 4, so column 4 is not thaat empty. Similar to this 00:42:959 (42959|1) - but on column 1. And the same 01:02:159 - here. Yep, applied all.

If I recall correctly, 01:11:309 - here it should be a mini LN and not a 1/4 triplet. (00:52:109 - like here) tfw you make consistency mistakes even after copy pasting :thinking: Applied.

01:35:759 - For this one I imagine adding a note would be fine so the player can keep up with the tempo. I don't know, tried both and i think the one without the note for the tamberine(?) sound works better, since the drums stops playing. Though if you really think i should add a note I'll add it.

01:36:959 - I have my doubts for this kind of LNs, I personally think they are fine but you should ask Kawawa when he qualifies for a second opinion. Maybe using 1/2 LNs is better to give the players a bit of time to think of what is about to take place. Or maybe just use 1/1 LNs as the following sections 01:38:159 - . Well this specific case should be a 1/2 LN since the sound is ending far before when the LN ends. Gonna check the others as well but I'll ask kawawa when he mods it. Yep, both should be 1/2 LNs and not 3/4 LNs. And i think keeping them different from eachother is better since they're different lenghts (one being 2 breaths while the other being 1).

01:42:059 - For this set I would likely use 1-4-1-4 instead of 2-3-2-3. To add a bit more variance to the map. There is some sort of pitch change too. This last suggestions applies to the second half of the ending. Yep, the second half of this diff is kinda boring so this is a good add imo. Need to do some re-structuring though.

EZ

00:37:859 (37859|1) - I would move this one to 3rd column, keep it as a one hand jump. :thinking:

00:39:659 - For this kind of sections I imagine a 1-4-1-4 trill might be easier but your call. Hmm . . i don't know. Think this would crate a awkward pattern after the trill. Gonna keep it as it is now but if you/kawawa presist I'll change it.

00:40:559 (40559|1) - I dont think that should be an LN. A normal note is fine, no reason to have that 1/2 space between one LN and the other in an EZ. Yep, i suck at making low sr maps lol.

00:42:059 (42059|3,42209|2) - I am not a fan of this for an EZ diff either, I would move that normal note to column 1 if you really want to keep that shape of pattern and then move the following LN. If not, just use 2 notes instead of one LN and one note. Ye I'll make them normal notes, since I want to keep them on the same hand since both of the sounds are similar to eachother.

00:44:909 (44909|0) - I think the rythm would be easier to follow if you move this note down to the white tick. And perhaps make this 00:45:359 (45359|1) - two notes instead of an LN (one in red, one in white) Ye sure, don't quite know if i did it correctly but i think it makes it easier than before.

00:47:009 (47009|1) - Perhaps use this one as a normal note and add one in the following white tick and then delete 00:47:309 (47309|2) - that. Ye seems good. Used LNs there as 2 notes, with the initial press being one sound and the release being the other, but this isn't standard so it's probably really weird xd

This previous things applies to the rest of the second first half. :thumbs_up:

01:27:059 (87059|1,89459|1) - Why note have them all on the same column? I think on 3 should be fine. Sure about that? Since the second one has a pretty loud ding noise to it. Think I'll keep it as it is for now.

:eyes:

Thanks for the mod/check/BN post!! Applied changes and updated the beatmap.

pls rank

Noxus wrote:

pls rank

soon hopefully ; )

Probably one of my favourite SV maps, really fun to play

Good job Couil

Chilly- wrote:

Probably one of my favourite SV maps, really fun to play

Good job Couil

owo

tack mannen

Bruh when are you gonna rank this I want more ranked SV maps

Insp1r3 wrote:

Bruh when are you gonna rank this I want more ranked SV maps

Out of my hands mang, just waiting on BNs to check it : (

juan tells me he still wants to take the bubble but he has his finals until Monday, so I'll just impart my general thoughts and whatnot for the time being.

Star Rating is completely useless for this kind of thing. You did express a concern about the spread I believe but I don't think the problem is where you think it is. In my opinion, the main problem is the gap between NM and HD; since HD also contains SVs, there's too much of a jump between the two because of how heavy the SVs are.

My suggestion would be to nerf the SVs in HD a fair bit since they appear to be identical to MX right now. Try to make them all normalised here if you can.


I'll be looking forward to checking this, so let me know whenever that first icon comes through, just so things don't get that messy. Pretty sure Garalulu is also interested as well, so there's that. (or just call me back if everything else falls apart)

And stop trying to downplay that this was featured in mwc lol. That's a big thing xd

Asherz007 wrote:

juan tells me he still wants to take the bubble but he has his finals until Monday, so I'll just impart my general thoughts and whatnot for the time being. I know Juan's been busy the last couple of months so wanted find another BN to take some burden off of his shoulders, but I'm happy that he's still wants to go through with it.

Star Rating is completely useless for this kind of thing. You did express a concern about the spread I believe but I don't think the problem is where you think it is. In my opinion, the main problem is the gap between NM and HD; since HD also contains SVs, there's too much of a jump between the two because of how heavy the SVs are.

My suggestion would be to nerf the SVs in HD a fair bit since they appear to be identical to MX right now. Try to make them all normalised here if you can. My main concern was that EZ were using too many 1/2 snaps, thought that was a unrankable lol. But if that's not a problem I guess I don't have to worry about it. Will change HD though, the SVs can be made much easier but i feel like it would loose some of it's charm if all the SVs were normalized, so will probably just make them easier and remove some unnecessary ones (like the stutter SVs in the streams or something).

[General]
Just a couple of reminders:

1. If you don't use a hitsound, there's no need to put it in the folder. (Remove soft-hitwhistle) OOPS i forgot to remove it lol, it used to be a silent hitsounds but removed it for HS consistency between diffs
2. The editor can only set ODHP values to one decimal place. (Editing the .osu for something you can't do in the editor is not allowed.) Oh, didn't know that. Will change the ODs on the ones with decimals.
3. Rankable SV values are between 0.1x and 10x. (Due to how the client interprets SVs outside of these values, i.e. they're not the value they say they are) Oh didn't know this either. Guess I should read the ranking criteria before trying to rank stuff :upside_down: Changing the 0.01x SVs to .1x

Please sort these out, as they're all issues that are currently preventing the map from going any further.

Could have kiai I reckon. It sounds like there are sections where it would fit. Didn't choose to have an kai time since the ranked STD vers. didn't have one, but I'll consider having one (prolly gonna be the latter half of the chart if that's the case).

soft-hitfinish.wav is a little too quiet relatively imo. Might want to increase its volume with audio-editing software. owo)b

Tags: Remove everything that appears elsewhere in the metadata (like sakuraburst since that's in the title). When searching for tags it isn't case sensitive, so duplicates can be removed. Not sure about SV in tags but I think you're okay. (just once though lol) Ye, as you might've seen I'm not the greatest at metadata stuff (I even misspelled the song name the first time i uploaded it : ). Will update the tags to something that's more fitting for the song.

I'll be looking forward to checking this, so let me know whenever that first icon comes through, just so things don't get that messy. Pretty sure Garalulu is also interested as well, so there's that. (or just call me back if everything else falls apart) Will do!

And stop trying to downplay that this was featured in mwc lol. That's a big thing xd /shrug Felt like it wasn't a important add to the request and didn't want to spam you with unnecessary information lol.

Thanks for the quick check (and quick response). Will update the map shortly.

All issues should be fixed now

Updated a few patterns, added new SVs to the HD diff (which turned out great imo, better than the original ones), fixed the old ones in MX, increased the volume of soft-hitfinish.wav, fixed the tags (oops accedently kept the old ones, will fix soon), fixed the ODs & HPs and added 2 kai times.

Indeed, the HD does look a lot better now.

Was just having a look around; there's literally no extra tags to be added, so just remove the duplicates.

However, I did find this on the ranked standard version you were talking about. Don't know whether you've seen this but I thought I'd flag it anyway.

hopefully juan should be here soon

Asherz007 wrote:

Indeed, the HD does look a lot better now.

Was just having a look around; there's literally no extra tags to be added, so just remove the duplicates. Ye, had 3-4 tags yesterday but forgot to change em back after updating the map. Updating em when i get home later.

However, I did find this on the ranked standard version you were talking about. Don't know whether you've seen this but I thought I'd flag it anyway. Oh, i hadn't seen that lol. I'll change it to "&" and a lower cased fuego then. Was going off of a youtube vid, which probably isn't the most reliable source xd.

hopefully juan should be here soon ow o

Might change an SV or two in the HD diff later. Were some transitions i weren't quite 100% happy with, shouldn't affect the difficulty though, just visuals.

Edit: Tags and title+artist updated. Didn't change any of the SVs in HD since they were good enough after playing through em' again.

Nooo, you made HD way easier, it was so fun to play, was a heavy SV map right at the edge of my skill level, so hard to come buy. Could you please link the previous version somewhere?

EDIT: I had an osz that's just a couple of days old (I hope I'm allowed to post this on the forums).

I hope this gets ranked, great map!

YaLTeR wrote:

Nooo, you made HD way easier, it was so fun to play, was a heavy SV map right at the edge of my skill level, so hard to come buy. Could you please link the previous version somewhere?

EDIT: I had an osz that's just a couple of days old (I hope I'm allowed to post this on the forums).

I hope this gets ranked, great map!

Thanks for the kind words! I can post the old HD diff in the beatmap description (cuz i still have it on my old comp xd)

Also check out this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0. Should have some SV maps around the HD diff lvl : )

Couil wrote:

Also check out this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0. Should have some SV maps around the HD diff lvl : )

Oh wow, thanks a lot for the list!

I can't wait to see this ranked omg!
Congratz!

Pachiru wrote:

I can't wait to see this ranked omg!
Congratz!

!!! Thanks man

Insp1r3 wrote:

Is it time for rank?!

maybe ; ) ) )

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