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19:47 MapleSyrup-: 00:30:631 - 00:31:954 - no matter how many times i keep replaying this
19:47 MapleSyrup-: it always feel awkward for my hands
19:47 MapleSyrup-: the transition makes it awkward for me
19:48 Incendent: ah, ok
19:48 Incendent: I'll take note of this
19:48 Incendent: (It looked good on paper)
19:48 MapleSyrup-: 04:16:660 - 04:30:484 - maybe buff this part a little?
19:49 MapleSyrup-: cause it feels weak after the kiai
19:49 Incendent: Buff it?
19:50 MapleSyrup-: probably add some extra notes
19:50 MapleSyrup-: maybe LNs
19:51 Incendent: Hmm
19:51 Incendent: I'll figure it out, but I guess I could do more to that part
19:51 Incendent: I'm worried about overmapping though
19:52 MapleSyrup-: worrying about overmapping when there are harder patterns in other parts of the map
19:52 MapleSyrup-: ;^)
19:52 Incendent: yeah, I know, all those tripple jacks though xD
19:52 Incendent: I was like TRIPPLES EVERYWHERE
19:53 Incendent: and everyone hated me for it
19:53 Incendent: and I was like
19:53 Incendent: Nope, not getting rid of them
19:53 MapleSyrup-: what are triples again
19:54 Incendent: 3 notes
19:54 Incendent: 3 note hammers
19:54 Incendent: I call those tripples
19:54 MapleSyrup-: o
19:54 Incendent: or hands
19:54 Incendent: what ever term you use
19:54 Incendent: everyone uses different terms, it's confusing
19:54 MapleSyrup-: yeah
19:55 MapleSyrup-: you used triples to emphasize on vocal and drums right?
19:55 Incendent: yeah, It felt appropriate because it was the exciting part of the song, which means no limits on mapping, as long as it's not stupid
19:55 Incendent: So I put it on the edge of almost being stupid, but not quite
19:55 MapleSyrup-: same
19:56 Incendent: and the last one was more intense then the first 2, so I was like
19:56 Incendent: welll
19:56 Incendent: all tripples
19:56 MapleSyrup-: i agree !
19:56 MapleSyrup-: are you trying to rank this?
19:56 Incendent: Yes
19:56 Incendent: I've got a total of 11 mods on it, it's my 2nd attempt at mapping
19:57 Incendent: the 1st one wasn't bad for a first attempt, but in comparison, it's pretty lackluster to this one
19:57 Incendent: (Not to mention the fact that it was just 30 seconds shy of a marathon, so because I mapped insane first, I had to map a hard and a NM
19:57 Incendent: which sucked
19:58 Incendent: and I got burnt out, and lost translation on what I wanted to do with it
19:58 Incendent: so I just binned it and focused on this one, which is 9 seconds longer than the required leingth for a marathon xD
19:58 Incendent: so win
19:58 MapleSyrup-: o i didnt notice this was 5 min
19:59 Incendent: just barely xD
19:59 Incendent: I like marathons because I dont have to map multiple difficulties
19:59 Incendent: where as my first map was 4:26
19:59 *Incendent is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1330767 Helblinde - C204]
20:00 Incendent: it wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either
20:02 Incendent: So, the first thing, i just went ahead and changed it to normal broken stairs (I think that's the correct term) Like the rest of them
20:02 MapleSyrup-: well wanna make this an irc mod or smth
20:02 MapleSyrup-: im hungry for kds
20:02 Incendent: sure xD
20:03 MapleSyrup-: wanna make 00:31:366 - 00:31:954 - http://puu.sh/wQ8hG/d4bc14c8b5.jpg
20:03 Incendent: I'm hungry for str prty
20:03 MapleSyrup-: for better transition i guess
20:05 MapleSyrup-: 01:06:881 - add note here
20:05 Incendent: How does that really make it better, back and forth stairs are easy to play and simple to read. I'll try it and figure it out, but yeah
20:05 MapleSyrup-: then move this note 01:06:954 (66954|0) - to column three
20:05 MapleSyrup-: pitch relevancy
20:06 Incendent: 01:06:881 wouldn't that wreck flow though (I get it, but yeah)
20:06 MapleSyrup-: 01:06:954 (66954|0) - cause starting here it's a different pitch
20:06 Incendent: oops
20:06 MapleSyrup-: and consecutive 12431243 makes it awkward for me
20:06 Incendent: ah, ok
20:08 MapleSyrup-: 01:15:484 (75484|0,75484|2,75484|1,75484|3,75778|1,75778|0,75778|2,75778|3,76072|3,76072|2,76072|1,76072|0) - 4 notes for this part might be a bit overkill
20:09 Incendent: `Ok, a lot of people has been saying that, but I felt that it was a prepatory transition for the next set, but I'll go ahead and reduce them to triples at least
20:09 MapleSyrup-: you can prob add an LN here at 01:14:307 - , 01:15:190 - , and 01:15:484 - (just a consideration)
20:09 MapleSyrup-: yeah triples are fine
20:10 Incendent: you think a 1/4 ln is good there?
20:10 Incendent: oh
20:10 Incendent: nvm
20:11 Incendent: I feel like the bass doesn't stick out enough to map though
20:11 MapleSyrup-: oh
20:11 MapleSyrup-: then use vocals?
20:12 Incendent: Wouldn't that make for an awkward transition though?
20:12 Incendent: It's not that I don't want to put anything there, but it just feels like it would be trying to hard to fill every gap
20:14 MapleSyrup-: i know what you mean but its like my finger wants to press something in that part
20:14 MapleSyrup-: especially with that eargasmic vocal
20:15 Incendent: Well, if I mapped the lyrics, I'm going to have to place a hold in the tripples to make it work
20:15 Incendent: and make the last tripple a double
20:15 MapleSyrup-: not exactly
20:16 Incendent: or just make them all doubles to make those grace notes flow well
20:16 MapleSyrup-: if you can give a good justification to why you map a part like that, then you can get away with it
20:16 Incendent: I guess so
20:17 Incendent: Like, a lot of people will bash the LN"s in sections like 01:21:660- and my defense is that it's a gimmick, xD
20:17 Incendent: not really a solid defense, but I felt like it was a nice touch and actually made this part stick out
20:17 Incendent: make it differently mapped then other parts
20:18 Incendent: Do a lot of people agree with it, no. But eh
20:18 MapleSyrup-: true
20:18 MapleSyrup-: having diversity makes a map fun
20:18 MapleSyrup-: having the same patterns over and over again makes it bland
20:18 Incendent: What about you, Did you like my little LN parts here, it wasn't mapped "Exactly" to the song, but it made it different
20:19 Incendent: yeah, I had a few mods that was like "I wouldn't have mapped the song like this (as a general statement) and that was the mod. And I"m here like, well, you aren't mapping it
20:19 Incendent: xD
20:19 MapleSyrup-: o i thought it was fitting
20:19 Incendent: ok, cool, I'm not the only one, phew
20:22 Incendent: Ok, so I'm sending up an update, tell me how the newly mapped part works out please
20:22 MapleSyrup-: o okay
20:22 Incendent: I haven't implemented the first stairs yet
20:22 Incendent: just an fyi
20:22 *MapleSyrup- is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1329775 Kushi - Sakura no Zenya (Speed up Ver.) [Independence]] <osu!mania> |4K|
20:22 MapleSyrup-: oki
20:30 MapleSyrup-: its great
20:31 Incendent: great
20:31 Incendent: I just implemented the new stairs and it feels good, but quick question
20:31 MapleSyrup-: o
20:32 Incendent: 00:30:631- I know you said it was awkward, but shouldn't I keep this a double for consistency?
20:32 Incendent: or make it a part of the stair
20:33 MapleSyrup-: oh yeah you can keep that
20:33 Incendent: Ok, let me update it one more time and test play it myself
20:33 MapleSyrup-: what made it awkward for me was actually this 00:30:631 (30631|0,30704|1,30778|3,30851|2,30925|0,30998|1,31072|3,31145|2,31219|0,31292|1,31366|3,31440|2,31513|0,31587|1) -
20:34 Incendent: I think keeping the lower half and changing the top half is actually very interesting
20:35 MapleSyrup-: yeah that was my point lol
20:35 Incendent: gotcha
20:36 Incendent: After I test play, I gotta see if I accidently slid any notes or accidently got rid of hitsounds, so I'll do that on my own
20:36 Incendent: unless you wanna help with that too xD
20:36 MapleSyrup-: i cant hitsound LOL
20:37 Incendent: xD
20:37 MapleSyrup-: reason why i cant rank maps smh
20:37 Incendent: Hitsounding was a lot of work, I actually hitsounded this map twice, but the first time, I had to remove every hitsound and timing point (I hitsounded EVERY note, so it was over hitsounded)
20:37 Incendent: every line has a hitsound now, but it's not as overboard and more fitting to the song
20:40 MapleSyrup-: o last suggestion btw 02:22:542 - make this the same as the last kiai but turn the notes into triples instead of doubles(just a consideration, dont have to implement this)
20:45 Incendent: I'll try it
20:46 MapleSyrup-: okay i gtg now w
20:46 MapleSyrup-: gl with rank
20:46 Incendent: alright! o.
20:46 Incendent: o/
20:46 Incendent: thanks man :)