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Unsure.So I went and previewed the thing and saw that yellow is a terrible color to use and wont be using it in any future posts. Just highlight over the words to read them, I really don't wanna find all of the specific color codes, too tired for ctrl F
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Unsure.So I went and previewed the thing and saw that yellow is a terrible color to use and wont be using it in any future posts. Just highlight over the words to read them, I really don't wanna find all of the specific color codes, too tired for ctrl F
It helped a lot! Thanks!Asherz007 wrote:
Yo. Is me again. (rip modding queue just doing things in any order now lol)
That out of the way, this map is certainly a lot better. Keep going bud.
This was an M4M request, but, er, not really sure what to send you back lol
0|1|2|3 (as per)
[General]
Hitsounds: Going a little overboard with using the finish hitsound there. Try to only use it where there's a crash in the audio since that's what the hitsound is. Also, you could distribute the hitsounds across chords, like 00:29:895 (29895|0,29895|1) could have a hitsound each - now that I notice, swap your hitnormal and hitwhistle, since a kick is technically an addition. Are you talking to switch all the hitnormals and hitwhistles?
because that's going to be a LOT of changes and I think it's fine now.
Finally, there's not really any need to double up on hitsounds like 00:30:631 (30631|2,30631|0). They often become too overpowering when used like that. That was honestly a genuine mistake, thanks.
Tags: Find some eventually lol I don't know anything about this song xD okay? I just grabbed the song file off of standard and used it for mania
Increase HP to match OD; 7 is too lenient. Is that something that will keep the song from being ranked?
Two timing points exist at 00:00:190 with conflicting samplesets and volumes. In any case, you should only need one of them here. Took care of it.
The BG is, uh, questionable... Ok, so I understand what you are saying, Honestly, I didn't notice till you pointed it out, but I don't think it's necessarily breaking the... uh... "Rules?" Reguardless, I probably should change the BG, (I just nabbed it off of the standard ver. as well.) Although I have no idea what would be fitting for this song now (Don't really know how to look things up to get a specific image that would fit this.) Any suggestions?
Short foreword: With the cymbal crashes, accent with heavier chords (triples, or occasionally doubles where they are much quieter), rather than with LNs. A personal opinion, really, but that's how I would be doing it. I'm guessing you are talking about the main chorus. Understandable, but even though a lot of people has complained about them, I feel like they are fine the way they are. Although, I'm kinda surprised you caught my intent there. (Even if it's only a little) Most people feel it to be nonsensical, and they might not be wrong, but I promise there is a method to my madness.Custom diff names lolThanks for taking the time to mod my map, If you don't have a map selected for me, I might chose one at random, but if you do, just send it to me in a response box or pm me in game or here.As I said, not really a fan of vocal/LN mapping, but I'll put that aside for now. Just letting ya know in case something sounds a little biased. The only reason I'm against it in 4K is that can generally clutter the other columns leaving you struggling to put down proper emphasis while still being playable, which can potentially hinder a map. Ok, I'll keep that in mind. I completely understand the fact that LN's take up lots of space in 4K and make mapping things while keeping it interesting is hard, yet I feel that It's necessary in long maps like this. As for mapping vocals, I understand,
that a lot of people don't like it, but it doesn't make it wrong in my opinion. Of course, at the same time, I do think I understand where you come from, again, as stated. It does in fact make the map less interesting. So a lot of people advise against it. (I hate LN's, I think I understand the mass, yet it fits to me)
Layering. Keep it consistent. Sometimes it isn't... I think? Like 00:38:425 (38425|3,38425|0,38425|1,38645|3,38645|0,38866|3) - Three different chords for essentially mapping the same snare. I do see what you are saying, and I'll fix it, although I don't see where you got 3, I see 2 different chords. (2 are the same and 1 is different {the single} Perhapse you are looking at an older version though. Idk.) Hopefully this doesn't effect flow negatively,
as that is what I'm trying to avoid the most (It causes a mini jack if I do things this way, I feel like people will point this out)
(Only mega-critical stuff below, just the first time they appear mostly; trust you can self-mod a bit )That's most of my gripes lol.
- 00:27:837 (27837|2,27837|1) - I feel you really need the triple for the crash at 00:29:601 (29601|0,29601|3), so make one of these a short note (SN).
- 00:32:248 (32248|0) and wherever else this kind of thing happens - This is an open hat, not a crash. Theoretically speaking, these should be 1/1 in length for accuracy, and without the finish hitsound. The problem with this, is as you said, there are only 4 columns. The 2 LN's represent different things, 1 for the vocal, and 1 for the background music. I see what you are saying, but I can't just end one of the LN abruptly while both sounds go throughout the whole sound. Also, If I remove a LN to make up for the space, that part feels off to me. So as much as I would like to do that, it's not possible in 4k. I think a double should work though since it's the start of a new idea and technically all 4 columns are taken.
- 00:57:248 (57248|1,57322|2,57395|1,57469|2,57542|1,57616|2,57690|1,57763|2,57837|1) - Okay. Stacks again. Nothing technically wrong I guess, but it reminds me of very early mania mapping lol. You've got 4 columns, might as well spread the notes out across them (in a playable fashion, preferably, since this one's kinda awkward). That my friend is called a trill. But hey, I guess if you wanna call em stacks, go ahead :3 (And it's also a pattern,
so I don't think it needs to change.) I'm leaving the red here because I still don't think it's bad, but I went ahead and changed up the pattern since your major complaint was flow, and that's what I'm really looking to improve, so hopefully this pattern flows better than the last.- 01:15:484 (75484|0,75484|2,75484|1,75484|3,75778|1,75778|0,75778|2,75778|3,76072|3,76072|2,76072|1,76072|0) - I don't really understand why these are quads. To me, they appear to be for the sake of it I understand that you don't understand why these are quads (sorry, I had too) yet, the main reason wasn't really in the music at this point of time, but in the next 10 seconds, It's there to prepare players for a bunch of triples and a few doubles in said triples. Although, truth to be told, I'm kinda getting sick of the complaints here, so I might change them after all. (I don't like the idea of making them triples or even doubles because triples can't be symmetrical and doubles are just boring when laid out in columns |-|1|2|-|
I'll just wait to see what you think about this though.- 01:16:807 (76807|2,76807|0,76807|1) - My main quarrel really. Overmapping and inconsistencies. Take this chord. There appears only to be vocals here, which leaves me to question why this is a triple. At most, it's a single. Listen at slower speeds throughout the kiai times to see where kicks and snares come, since vocals shouldn't need emphasising this much. Second thing is it creates stacks like 01:18:572 (78572|0,78719|0,78866|0,79013|0) which are awkward to no end to play. Have a think about it. (I would recommend reverting to triple-double-triple-etc. if anything.) Again, I've had a lot of complaints about this section, and I went ahead and answered to the masses, I'll do the 3,2,3,2,3 pattern for the first 2 chorus parts, but for the 3rd, since it's slightly different and the climax of the song, I went ahead and made them all triples for consistency sake to state that this is exciting, therefore harder.
- 01:21:660 (81660|3,81807|2) - I'm a little confused with these LNs. Specifically the second half. I'm not really hearing anything to which LNs could be mapped. LN-wise, I would've thought it would be something like this. It's just a change in mapping style, The LN's actually are there to represent cymbals in a certain way (Before you say anything, keep in mind that this isn't me mapping the song on a set of rules where 1 thing always will = 1. I've seen a lot of ranked maps where the LN's didn't make a lot of sense to me, but they had something to justify them being there. Of course I could be wrong and these LN's could be my downfall, but eh. Also, on the topic of consistency, the first set of LN's are just saying (Hey, I can map weird on purpose as well and make it work, so there are probably more like this later on in the map) Not to mention that this actually feels good to me to play. That is just me though.
Pretty much, I major complaint about mapping, is that there are so many set rules on how a song "Should" be mapped despite it not actually being a rule in the mania section. This does take away from creativity a lot and makes it so that way, all maps are pretty much the same. 2 for kick,
1 for normal, 3 for crash. Everything has a "Uniform" and as a guy who wears one constantly, the excitement of wearing a uniform gets old, and it is no longer exciting. Mapping is less fun, and it's like being in a prison. So I'm not always going to follow the set rules that other "Players" have established unofficially speaking. That's just my full broad opinion on this. Of course, I could just be very stubborn as well. (Rant over xD)- 02:42:690 (162690|2,162837|3,162984|2,163131|3,163278|2,163425|3,163572|2,163719|3,163866|2,164013|3,164160|2) - Pattern variation is key. This is quite a long time to be doing the same thing in a column. My bad, changed the pattern here.
- 02:47:346 (167346|2,167444|1,167542|0,167542|3,167640|1,167739|2,167837|3,167837|0,167935|2,168033|1,168131|0,168131|3,168229|1,168327|2) - These sounds are all mapped to snares, so I'm not quite sure why they don't have the same number of notes for each one. Probably doubles. Same with 03:06:170 (186170|1,186268|0,186366|3,186366|2,186464|1,186562|0,186660|2,186660|3,186758|0). I recently changed it this way because of someone's mod, and they mad a pretty valid reason on why 2 of these snare parts are mapped differently then the other 2. the 2nd and 3rd snare parts sound different then 1 and 4. Therefore, suggest a new pattern. It helps to get rid of repetition and doesn't really hurt flow either.
- 03:15:484 (195484|1,195582|2,195680|1,195778|2,195876|1,195974|2,196072|1,196170|2,196268|1,196366|2,196464|1,196562|2,196660|1) - Looks nice, but doesn't really play that well. I'd suggest a re-patterning. I feel like this pattern is okay, I have a harder time with some of the LN patterns compared to this one.
- 03:25:925 (205925|2) - Incorrectly snapped (Should be on 1/3 right?) That definitely should be snapped to the third, you are right,
I probably accidently dragged it with the touch pad on my laptop, oops. (I disabled it too, but it doesn't like doing what it's told to do though... >.>) I fixed the snap.- 03:42:542 (222542|0,222690|0,222837|0,222984|0,223131|1,223131|0,223278|1,223278|0,223425|1,223425|0,223572|1,223572|0,223719|2,223719|1,223719|0,223866|2,223866|1,223866|0,224013|2,224013|1,224013|0,224160|2,224160|1,224160|0,224307|2,224307|3,224307|1,224307|0,224454|1,224454|0,224454|3,224454|2,224601|2,224601|3,224601|0,224601|1,224748|0,224748|1,224748|3,224748|2) - Oh boy. I get the intention, but this is extremely painful to play, as well as being inaccurate percussion wise. Besides, it's only pitch that's changing rather than intensity, so give this little bit another go. I think I"m going to keep that. I honestly like that part and even though this is a 4* song, I don't really care about star difficulty. A lot of people has made hard 4* maps and 5* maps significantly harder than something half a star harder than it. So star rating to difficulty is over rated. Also, you say you get my intent,
but you don't get the whole intent. (You got most of it though) I was mapping the volume this time, if you listen, there is a crescendo here. (Yes, I'm talking music sheet talk.)- 04:01:366 (241366|1,241513|2,241660|1,241807|2,241954|1,242101|2,242248|1,242395|2,242542|1,242690|2,242837|1,242984|2,243131|1,243278|2,243425|1) - A long time for this. Plays well, but a little monotonous. I'd have to disagree on that, mainly because it's not even 7 seconds long and that there are doubles spread out in there. It's really hard to change patterns with LN (Which is your major complaint) but you probably are aware that I don't plan on changing the LN's. But yeah, I don't think it's monotonous.
Hope this helps, best of luck, and keep it up!