This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:09:26 PM

Artist: DragonForce
Title: WAR!
Tags: marathon df marc hudson herman li speedmetal powermetal power speed metal reaching into infinity idke
BPM: 120
Filesize: 9525kb
Play Time: 05:15
Difficulties Available:

1. Legend (7.01 stars, 1960 notes)

Download: DragonForce - WAR!
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welcome to cry thunder, part 2

wheres the AR 8

no

furries mapping cs5 dragonforce again?

Hey fiery, firstly thanks for letting me use your timing so I can map this epic song. But I must tell that title name must be WAR! according as written in official website.

upvoted

Wow, this is pretty nice map and nice Dragonforce's song as well!
Pls finish it

or else I will map it >:)

its been finished tho

oh shi my mistake, gj!

Tho r u planning rank it?

if we get enough mods probably

Forgot to say, pls add "marc hudson" to tags cuz he is kawaii .w. (runs)

holy jump streams

please get this ranked pls

Wow, really enjoyed the song so I've decided to mod!

SPOILER

yeasss ! badass songs loveit [m/

lets goooOOo

I know you told me on Skype that I need to be AT LEAST 3 digit to mod this map... But honestly I don't think it should matter that much when there are so manny great mappers out there that don't even play the game. Anyway here's a couple bones I have to pick with this map.

03:01:104 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I really like this pattern.

03:29:104 (1) - People might say this is unrankable (you can't really follow it that well) but I really like this slider.

03:37:104 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nagasaki Kanon got a lot of hate for doing these... quit mapping altogether too. Anyways I really like this pattern.

00:00:351 (1) - This is a really weird position to start the map. Especially with a mouse. Anyways I like it.

02:41:797 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ctrl+G these notes

I really like the map. If this were the new site I would also put hype on it but I don't know how to do that here (or what that even does. did they change it??) What does hype even do. Anyways +1 hype.

Although I am a Taiko mapper, I would love to see it in ranked section, so here is my opinions, no kudosu.

1. Don't forget to add "marc hudson" and "herman li" on tags, sometimes I look for DragonForce songs by using those keywords, so must the others.
2. 00:40:489 - ~ 00:46:643 - You didn't represent any 1/6 snare sound but 00:46:027 (1) -. It looks inconsistent and there's no point in representing those 1/6 snares as single circles doing that well.
3. 03:21:720 - ~ 03:22:873 - When the density goes same as the kiai time, it goes down suddenly at 03:22:950 -. It's exactly weird, even for a Taiko mapper who isn't that experienced in STD mapping such as me lolol
4. 03:47:566 - I just want to point out, the guitar turns to 1/3. It's still up to you what to use.
5. 04:32:489 - The only thing I heard is low drum sound. After all, the song is pretty crazy, but, don't you think it's a bit harsh to have the streams that spaced?

That's it to me, good luck on ranking!

fieryrage - Today at 5:55 PM
@FoxyGrandpa
Hey
FoxyGrandpa - Today at 5:55 PM
FUCK
fieryrage - Today at 5:55 PM
black guy: hey


rank guilty all the same

Kastellann wrote:

I know you told me on Skype that I need to be AT LEAST 3 digit to mod this map... But honestly I don't think it should matter that much when there are so manny great mappers out there that don't even play the game. Anyway here's a couple bones I have to pick with this map.

03:01:104 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I really like this pattern.
hoyl shite thansk!!!! very much aperciated..
03:29:104 (1) - People might say this is unrankable (you can't really follow it that well) but I really like this slider.
turn on slider ends
00:00:351 (1) - This is a really weird position to start the map. Especially with a mouse. Anyways I like it.
everywhere is a weird place to start subjectively

I really like the map. If this were the new site I would also put hype on it but I don't know how to do that here (or what that even does. did they change it??) What does hype even do. Anyways +1 hype.

why did fiery say only 3 digits allowed wtf ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

01:11:258 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Okay this like doesnt reflect the guitar sounds at all, since on 01:11:566 - the pitch is higher than 01:11:258 - but u have it as lower spacing
the spacing of the jumps is what reflects the guitar not the spacing of the notes ur gya lol
02:15:258 (1,2,1,2) - Tbh u;'d prolly be better off having these as like 1/2 sliders or jumps since how they are now it kinda skips over the guitar sounds and drums
wtf dont u hear that annoying guitar in the background
03:29:104 (1) - This might be considered buriai? idk not sure
turn on slider ends then it wont be
03:34:797 (5,6,7) - Why the stack on such a high intensity guitar sound
this is fierys part but hes retarded lo lo lo lo lo lolo aosd load olaslod i always complain about this in every map to him
04:05:258 (3) - bRO what the fuck hello mr tail wyd
epic moments on osu?

holy shit!!! thansk for ur mods but i will unfortunately be denying everuything except for compliments because i think i am a perfect mapper and if u decide to bash on the map say hi to a block LOL! XD! anywayz heres some kudopsu frum fiery_rage_osu because hes a DICKhead..

honestly this map fucking sucks tho lol

ty all! waiting for idkes response o/ nice response

00:53:873 (3,2) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider offsetting the stream a bit to the right
01:34:335 (3) - ctrl+g this, otherwise it completely breaks the flow of the section
01:46:950 (1,2,3,4,5) - this burst doesn't curve correctly compared to the bursts around it (it's too linear). mostly an aesthetic consistency problem; I recommend fixing it but feel free to ignore this if it was intentional
03:05:566 (7) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider moving this circle up
03:08:027 (3,2) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider moving the stream (and maybe the kicksliders too) a bit to the right
03:26:950 (2,3,4) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider moving the triple+kickslider away from the slider that's overlapping it. the direction change of the triple also doesn't read well; consider ctrl+J'ing the triple
05:05:720 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this doesn't fit at all, especially considering how you used sliders to represent this part of the song every other time. change this to sliders like the rest of the map
05:11:873 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - nice choke stream!

quick reminder: 05:13:710 - you forgot 1/6 snares over here
i love you btw

fiery requested mod

diffffff:
00:12:351 (1,2,1,2) - visually these would look better as straight sliders like you did 00:08:351 (1,2,1,2) - and 00:02:351 (1,2) - . same goes for the whole section
01:15:720 (3) - tbh i think u should start 01:15:873 (1,2,3,4) - here instead, since the guitar is louder here

for the first chorus, you really need to differentiate the spacing of 1/4 and 1/2 gaps. 01:48:797 (1,2) - the 1/4 gap here for example, is bigger than 01:49:412 (1,2) - , a pattern that comes right after it, this could cause misreads easily. i would suggest you try to lower the spacing of the 1/4 gaps (something like this), or use a certain pattern to indicate a 1/4 jump (like making 1/4 jump sliders sharp or smth idk). same goes for the second chorus zzzz

02:10:335 (1,2,1,2) - what foxy said about these 1/8 sliders is still a valid point lol. the guitar in the bg doesn't even have 1/8 sounds, and there are much better ways of representing the guitar, like doing the same thing u did here 02:09:104 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
03:05:104 (5,6,7) - ik the rule's gone but it still would be better if you uncovered 6's slider end cuz rn it looks like the slider is much longer than it actually is
03:29:104 (1) - you gotta consider the fact that a lot of people dont play with sliderends on. as such, the player could easily misread this. would suggest placing the end somewhere more seeable, like so
03:32:797 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - dont get the spaced gap cuz u it wasn't that spaced 03:31:566 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - here and they're both representing the same sound
03:38:950 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - u could've done some cool things with this stream like u did the entire map, why not do it here?
03:58:643 (1,2,3,4,5) - again, why the sudden change in spacing? 03:56:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - is doing the same thing so why not just keep consistent lol

wait did u literally just copy paste and flip the first prechorus onto the second prechorus nice

other than that looks ok for the most part

for idke: you have some cool patterns and concepts, but u gotta present them better and be more consistent with them. players need to be introduced certain concepts slowly, not just thrown in there and hope that they know what they're doing. hope i helped!

Dashyy- wrote:

fiery requested mod

diffffff:
03:05:104 (5,6,7) - ik the rule's gone but it still would be better if you uncovered 6's slider end cuz rn it looks like the slider is much longer than it actually is bro ur clicking 5 before 6 even appears on screen im pretty sure this is perfectly readable
03:29:104 (1) - you gotta consider the fact that a lot of people dont play with sliderends on. as such, the player could easily misread this. would suggest placing the end somewhere more seeable, like so have replied to this before but it's similar to other ranked sliders so there should be no issue (besides no one's gonna read the thing going the opposite fuckin way lets be real here)
03:32:797 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - dont get the spaced gap cuz u it wasn't that spaced 03:31:566 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - here and they're both representing the same sound it's to keep consistency with the first solo-ish part 1 minute in where there's cut streams everywhere, i have to at least put some zz
03:38:950 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - u could've done some cool things with this stream like u did the entire map, why not do it here? 03:39:412 (7,8,1) - i can only really do it here and that'd be kinda pointless
03:58:643 (1,2,3,4,5) - again, why the sudden change in spacing? 03:56:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - is doing the same thing so why not just keep consistent lol it's more for dramatic effect + it leads into the more intense kiai in terms of spacing

wait did u literally just copy paste and flip the first prechorus onto the second prechorus nice L

other than that looks ok for the most part

ty!
also added the other 1/6s zig mentioned

edit: oops i forgot habib also known as aoiyuuki thanks for the Ghost Post Habibers

Aoiyuuki- wrote:

01:34:335 (3) - ctrl+g this, otherwise it completely breaks the flow of the section this shouldn't be a problem I don't think :s it doesn't really break flow since you can just consider it a hold slider in any case
01:46:950 (1,2,3,4,5) - this burst doesn't curve correctly compared to the bursts around it (it's too linear). mostly an aesthetic consistency problem; I recommend fixing it but feel free to ignore this if it was intentional tbh I don't know what your point is here, it looks curved like the others to me lo l

00:53:873 (3,2) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider offsetting the stream a bit to the right
03:05:566 (7) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider moving this circle up
03:08:027 (3,2) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider moving the stream (and maybe the kicksliders too) a bit to the right these overlaps are stuff i do frequently throughout the song, so i think it should be ok readability wise

03:26:950 (2,3,4) - this overlap doesn't read well; consider moving the triple+kickslider away from the slider that's overlapping it. the direction change of the triple also doesn't read well; consider ctrl+J'ing the triple I just moved the triple up, the way it was placed was kind of ew anyway, might change it back later though

ty!

pishi also modded so posting his discord mod here for keepsake

Aoiyuuki- wrote:

05:05:720 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this doesn't fit at all, especially considering how you used sliders to represent this part of the song every other time. change this to sliders like the rest of the map
it fits but isnt consistent with the rest of the map but i dont see why i need to so ill leave it as is for now
05:11:873 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - nice choke stream!
every pp farm map has a diff spike in the end and this isnt even the hardest part so

Dashyy- wrote:

diffffff:
00:12:351 (1,2,1,2) - visually these would look better as straight sliders like you did 00:08:351 (1,2,1,2) - and 00:02:351 (1,2) - . same goes for the whole section
too much of one thing is ugly and unappreciative
01:15:720 (3) - tbh i think u should start 01:15:873 (1,2,3,4) - here instead, since the guitar is louder here
completely goes against what i did there which is 8 low spaced notes and 8 high spaced notes alternating
for the first chorus, you really need to differentiate the spacing of 1/4 and 1/2 gaps. 01:48:797 (1,2) - the 1/4 gap here for example, is bigger than 01:49:412 (1,2) - , a pattern that comes right after it, this could cause misreads easily. i would suggest you try to lower the spacing of the 1/4 gaps (something like this), or use a certain pattern to indicate a 1/4 jump (like making 1/4 jump sliders sharp or smth idk). same goes for the second chorus zzzz
ok for first chorus no for second chorus because second chorus actually has spacing differentiation so
02:10:335 (1,2,1,2) - what foxy said about these 1/8 sliders is still a valid point lol. the guitar in the bg doesn't even have 1/8 sounds, and there are much better ways of representing the guitar, like doing the same thing u did here 02:09:104 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
guitar doesnt even go with 1/2 1/4 or 1/8 but i chose to represent the sound wiht 1/8 and also your example doesnt make sense because its not the same sound anyways
03:29:104 (1) - you gotta consider the fact that a lot of people dont play with sliderends on. as such, the player could easily misread this. would suggest placing the end somewhere more seeable, like so
ur example goes against what i did which is make a perfect circle and also i never misread it without sliderends so yeah plus there are much more worse culprits of this overlap in other songs that got ranked so i dont see a need to change it

fishyfat wrote:

something about big spacing at the cutstream section
ya
something about the 1/2 and 1/4 spacing
ok fuck this completely ruins that structure fuckfuckfuckfuck

thankz all xD!!!

upda3ted

placeholder (im literally modding after i post this lolz) nvm had to eat ill do it tommorow LOL I love when I forget to do things >_>

i tho this is mv2 as well fuck

04:05:258 (3) - offscreen in 4:3 aspect ratios
03:29:104 (1) - not offscreen, but almost. Better move it a bit down to be safe.

00:52:643 - rhythm changes here even though the whole part prioritizes the guitar with it being clickable the whole time but this doesn't have it clickable.
01:37:720 - this does sound like 1/4 to me not 1/3. Vocals also don't land on 1/3 for me.
02:09:720 (1) - this stream and 02:10:027 (1) - should be mapped the same as the 02:09:104 (1) - double tapping stream thingy, since it features similar sounds.
02:13:950 (4,1) - not sure, but this jumpstream kinda looks really huge compared to the other stream jumps.
02:18:335 (2,1) - would have liked the kind of spacing you did at the beginning, I think it might even make sense to give this more spacing than the other, since well its in the middle of the song. If you don't know what I mean with beginning: 00:42:335 (2,1) -
02:46:027 (1) - should be nc'd for consistency. For refernce look at the other part, also you follow 4 full beats as ncing.
03:05:104 (5,6,7) - to me it seems better to avoid this pattern until after the kiai were you do it quite frequently. There it just seems not fitting to the more linear cursor movement on the other objects.
03:29:104 (1) - this slider is visually confusing. It can either go upwards or downwards into the slderend, so I think it might be better to make the ending clearer. Not sure if I explained it good enough if not -> picture
04:22:950 (1) - uhm I think that's quite a lot of distance that got added compared to the other streams if we take into account that this does not sound much more intense than the streams prior.

04:23:643 (4,6) - I think you should be more consistent in this part. 6 in this case is mapped as slider, when its mapped as triplet 04:26:335 (5) - right after, so basically the rhythm is swapped here, even tho its repeating in rhythm.
04:31:258 (1) - same thing just here it is not mapped at all but 04:28:797 (1) - here it is mapped as triplet
^
this two thingys actually happen already at 00:59:566 - 01:19:258 - all those similar parts. I know its a collab and all, so I guess that can happen, but at least those guitars would be cool if they are followed consistently.

04:33:027 (8,1) - minor thing, but spacing error probably
04:56:489 (3) - missing nc for this one. Prior kiais had it.
05:05:720 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - super hard imo to predict the streamshape at this point when it never happened before even remotely close to that.

Didn't say anything about the stream parts cuz this whole song has random snappings for the main guitar.

Fine map imo good luck.

seems like ur version was outdated cuz most of the things you listed were already fixed and updated by the time you modded, i'll go over the stuff not fixed though

Feb wrote:

00:52:643 - rhythm changes here even though the whole part prioritizes the guitar with it being clickable the whole time but this doesn't have it clickable. fixed

01:37:720 - this does sound like 1/4 to me not 1/3. Vocals also don't land on 1/3 for me. this is 1/3, it's noticeably delayed on 1/4

02:46:027 (1) - should be nc'd for consistency. For refernce look at the other part, also you follow 4 full beats as ncing. done

03:05:104 (5,6,7) - to me it seems better to avoid this pattern until after the kiai were you do it quite frequently. There it just seems not fitting to the more linear cursor movement on the other objects. it's better to introduce this pattern earlier rather than later imo

04:22:950 (1) - uhm I think that's quite a lot of distance that got added compared to the other streams if we take into account that this does not sound much more intense than the streams prior. will have to ask idke about this, but i think it's fine the way it is rn, it flows into the next section nicely

04:23:643 (4,6) - I think you should be more consistent in this part. 6 in this case is mapped as slider, when its mapped as triplet 04:26:335 (5) - right after, so basically the rhythm is swapped here, even tho its repeating in rhythm. in general i worked with hobbes to make this more consistent so hopefully it should be better across the song now

04:33:027 (8,1) - minor thing, but spacing error probably oops

04:56:489 (3) - missing nc for this one. Prior kiais had it. done

05:05:720 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - super hard imo to predict the streamshape at this point when it never happened before even remotely close to that. honestly this is probably one of the easier streams to hit considering the cutstreams lol, i think it plays fine

ty!

Damn, was thinking about goin online lol and check if its updated. Shud have done it, my bad.