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DJPop
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on อา. 9 มกราคม 2554 at 10:44:41 PM

Artist: Hatsune Miku
Title: Hatsune Miku no Gekishou
Source: VOCALOID
Tags: The Singing Passion of cosMo BousouP Project DIVA 2nd kanpakyin
BPM: 200
Filesize: 18002kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0.97 stars, 117 notes)
  2. Hard (4.4 stars, 265 notes)
  3. Kanpakyin's Taiko (4.83 stars, 692 notes)
  4. Normal (2.73 stars, 183 notes)
  5. Prayed (4.89 stars, 537 notes)
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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111th beatmap.

The hardest song from Project DIVA 2nd.

CTB diff is now UNRANKABLE!!
Please download it here instead.
Mapped by ZHSteven.
Last edited by DJPop , edited 43 times in total.
Krisom
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Oh man you beated me to it :<! (I was also working on this song)

May I do an Extreme/insane diff? Also, I have the video BG if you need it.

Psst, add "project diva 2nd" to tags, don't feed me kudosu
EDIT: Also, add "intense singing" to tags as the English translation for this song is "The Intense Singing of Hatsune Miku"
EDIT2: Also, I'm not sure but I know this song as "Hatsune Miku no geki shou", not "no Gekishou", that's the title I got from the Project Diva ost at least, so recheck and add an space between Geki and Shou if needed...
digiaria
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:)
DJPop
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Krisom wrote:

Oh man you beated me to it :<! (I was also working on this song)
Actually, this map stayed in my PC for 5 months before I continue mapping.

May I do an Extreme/insane diff?
Yes, but pls keep score between 6m-9m (I want to keep highscore between gaps between Hard and Prayed).

Also, I have the video BG if you need it.
Let's see :3

Psst, add "project diva 2nd" to tags, don't feed me kudosu
Added.
EDIT: Also, add "intense singing" to tags as the English translation for this song is "The Intense Singing of Hatsune Miku"
Added.
EDIT2: Also, I'm not sure but I know this song as "Hatsune Miku no geki shou", not "no Gekishou", that's the title I got from the Project Diva ost at least, so recheck and add an space between Geki and Shou if needed...
I want to keep it "Gekishou" since my old miku maps are written without space.
Verdisphena
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Verdisphena
I can make a taiko diff?
ZHSteven
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:D 111th map~ really a funny number~
o btw can I make a ctb map? 8-)
kanpakyin
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Taiko again>.<
OK?

Edit:This song BPM should be 200!?
I think 200 is more make sance than 100.__.
DJPop
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ZHSteven wrote:

:D 111th map~ really a funny number~
o btw can I make a ctb map? 8-)
Yes :D

kanpakyin wrote:

Edit:This song BPM should be 200!?
I think 200 is more make sance than 100.__.
BPMx0.25 is unrankable.

kanpakyin wrote:

Taiko again>.<
OK?

Verdisphena wrote:

I can make a taiko diff?
This song is quite hard to make a good Taiko map, are you sure you can handle it? :?
[Shalon]
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nahh, so many taiko diff req, I'm so happy that now, so many taiko mapper in here.

but, In my view, to make this map's taiko map is.... extremely hard, indeed :?
mekadon_old
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[Shalon] wrote:

In my view, to make this map's taiko map is.... extremely hard, indeed :?
This. And good luck, you taiko mappers~
That means there will be 7 diffs in your map? Hmm :3
Songstar.
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mekadon wrote:

[Shalon] wrote:

In my view, to make this map's taiko map is.... extremely hard, indeed :?
This. And good luck, you taiko mappers~
That means there will be 7 diffs in your map? Hmm :3
Songstar.
If you mean 4 of DJPop's map and 3 of taiko maps, nope.
I won't make this map's taiko diff.
Cuz I can't sure that If I mapping this map, that will be good to play.(Maybe that will extremely hard)
I don't want to mapping the map that I can't make with confidence.
kanpakyin
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Taiko Done ;)

Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Kanpakyin's Taiko].osu
FireballFlame
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Fun song! :)


I took a look at the timing. Please set it as follows:

BPM is 200. It's a fast song and 100 doesn't fit.
SPOILER

DJPop wrote:

BPMx0.25 is unrankable.
That's no problem, just divide the slider velocity by 2 and you'll get your old speeds back. ;)
The first timing section should start at the beginning of the first measure. Offset 2.980 works best imo.

The tempo stays the same throughout the song, but the timing signature changes. For the first section, 4/4 is correct, but to time the song properly, you'll need some more red timing sections with the following properties:
  1. offset 22.180, signature 3/4
  2. offset 25.780, signature 4/4
  3. offset 47.380, signature 3/4
  4. offset 64.180, signature 4/4
  5. offset 88.180, signature 7/4 *
  6. offset 94.480, signature 4/4
* This is not yet selectable in the editor, although it will be soon. For now, you'll have to edit the .osu file manually:
Create the section, save, find the respective line in the file and change the 3rd value to 7.

Star~
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DJPop
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FireballFlame wrote:

blah blah blah ...
Timing fixed, thanks. :)
Krisom
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Ok, tuned down what I sent you and used Fireball's timing
Includes a nice colorhax at the end. Also, this fits pretty well the diff spread you wanted imo.
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Krisom's Intense].osu


Also, for anyone intrested in my original version, here's what I did in the beginning:
SPOILER
ATTACH[Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Krisom's Extreme].osu]

I'll send you the video later, I have to get going. Good luck!
/me stars
/me kudosu stars


Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Krisom's Extreme].osu
Verdisphena
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Fuuuu~
Only a suggestions for the taiko diff

02:11:688 to 02:16:488 is better using 1/ 3 for the streams, remember, is only a suggestion
Akosss
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Star :)
DJPop
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Krisom wrote:

Includes a nice colorhax at the end.
I've tried coding that but didn't work... How did you do? :roll:
Krisom
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Fisrt, add 5 colors.
Then, everytime you see the white combocolor appearing, go here...
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/36702

And change it for the green combocolor to avoid the white combocolor appearing
Then, at the end, go here again, and...
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/36703

Select the White combocolor (Black does a nice effect too)
ZHSteven
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OK I finished..
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Steven's CTB(test)].osu
But I am not sure about the streams..need further testing..
First time mapping those hell streams~~~lol~~
TKiller
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let's see

[Prayed]

00:05:388 (1) - new combo on last note in the stack is frustrating a bit, I think. And it doesn't look good for my eyes either

00:11:538 (6,7) - imo needs more spacing

00:13:788 - 00:21:888 - hearing normalhit sound on every slider is boring and kind of disturbing, try alternating it with softwhistle, you'll probably like it

00:36:588 (7,10) - why no finishes here?

00:37:488 (11) - I'd made that 1,6 spaced like the triples before

00:47:388 - 00:54:438 - add some softwhistles?

01:13:788 - 01:23:238 - I understand why previous part had no hitsounds, but this one seriously needs some softwhistles. And probably some finishes.

02:16:488 - 02:18:813 - please, please don't make spacing gaps in streams, even if they are slow like these. It frustrates a lot. I can't force you to change them and this stream isn't impossible even for me (I am bad at mouse control), but please keep this note in mind

02:29:688 - add 3 more notes here please. Map will be even more fun if you add them :D



Krisom's diff has some pretty ridiculous for me spacings so I'll keep myself from commenting on it.
DJPop
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TKiller wrote:

[Prayed]

00:05:388 (1) - new combo on last note in the stack is frustrating a bit, I think. And it doesn't look good for my eyes either
Fixed.

00:11:538 (6,7) - imo needs more spacing
Fixed.

00:13:788 - 00:21:888 - hearing normalhit sound on every slider is boring and kind of disturbing, try alternating it with softwhistle, you'll probably like it
Added.

00:36:588 (7,10) - why no finishes here?
Intended.

00:37:488 (11) - I'd made that 1,6 spaced like the triples before
???

00:47:388 - 00:54:438 - add some softwhistles?
Added.

01:13:788 - 01:23:238 - I understand why previous part had no hitsounds, but this one seriously needs some softwhistles. And probably some finishes.
Added.

02:16:488 - 02:18:813 - please, please don't make spacing gaps in streams, even if they are slow like these. It frustrates a lot. I can't force you to change them and this stream isn't impossible even for me (I am bad at mouse control), but please keep this note in mind
Changed a bit.

02:29:688 - add 3 more notes here please. Map will be even more fun if you add them :D
I can't sync those notes certainly.


Krisom's diff has some pretty ridiculous for me spacings so I'll keep myself from commenting on it.
Even me think like you, inclined... :(
OzzyOzrock
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Ooh! I remember seeing this song in a video for Project Diva, but never knew the the name... now I've found it! Lol.
Krisom
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Ok Ok, reduced some jumps here and there.

Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Krisom's Intense].osu
banvi
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ohhh , Gekishou lol
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Excelent, and.. seven levels? rankeable?? i want to see ^^
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mikhe wrote:

seven levels? rankeable??
Yes
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:)
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Star~
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Video.

http://puu.sh/s7t

Blame Krisom. :V
DJPop
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Garven wrote:

Video.

http://puu.sh/s7t

Blame Krisom. :V


:o :o :o
Snowy Dream
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Djpop :D
Star~
Garven
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Krisom said you wanted the vid that he had just without sound, which had that box effect applied. Ah well, here's another one at 10 megs that looks a little better due to higher resolution. Still artifacts like crazy due to the background gradient though. :/

http://puu.sh/smL
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crazy 1/3 lol
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Star~★
lovhin456
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Hey DJPop ~

General;
- Your mp3 is 256 kbps, but if you submitted before the rule of "no mp3s that are more than 192 kbps" was up then that's fine

Skin;
- Fruit catcher shouldn't be cirno, she has nothing to do with this song ... maybe use this one I made ??


- Delete play-skip-0 and play-skip-1, they aren't used
- Maybe use these spinner-osu, spinner-clear and spinner-spin ?? I think they would look good
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou.rar
- No comboburst ?? ;w;

Easy;
- Is okk ~

Normal;
- Is okk ~

Hard;
- Is okk ~

Krisom's Intense;
- Is okk ~

Prayed;
- Is okk ~

Kanpakyin's Taiko;
- Sounds okk

Steven's CtB;
- I can't understand how is a good CtB diff supposed to be ... but I guess this is okk ...

* Star ~ ;w; I didn't really mod orz


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:)
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Garven wrote:

Krisom said you wanted the vid that he had just without sound, which had that box effect applied. Ah well, here's another one at 10 megs that looks a little better due to higher resolution. Still artifacts like crazy due to the background gradient though. :/
http://puu.sh/smL
Thanks :)

lovhin456 wrote:

General;
- Your mp3 is 256 kbps, but if you submitted before the rule of "no mp3s that are more than 192 kbps" was up then that's fine
It's VBR. The bit rate shows the song's most value, average is 160kbps.

Skin;
- Fruit catcher shouldn't be cirno, she has nothing to do with this song ... maybe use this one I made ??
Really appreciated :)
- Delete play-skip-0 and play-skip-1, they aren't used
Deleted.
- Maybe use these spinner-osu, spinner-clear and spinner-spin ?? I think they would look good
Added.
- No comboburst ?? ;w;
Can't find any good one ;w;
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Starrrrrrrrrrr
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star~
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ok first off i did some asking around and the 6 diff limit includes taiko and CTB diff's, so sorry but your gonna have to remove something since your diff are over the max amount. srry :/


Easy
01:00:588 (3) - this note timing is REALLY odd and dont play good, just a normal note at 01:00:888 plays much better

Normal
00:50:688 - a note would go great here
01:01:788 (1) - this dont really need a new combo on, remove it i say

Hard
02:14:388 - add a note here so flows with 02:14:688 (2,3) atm its REALLY odd with them being different even though the music is the same

Krisom's Intense
slider tick rate 1 please, 0.5 dont really suit it

maps fine, just one tiiiny niggle xD 02:23:613 (8,1) - these need to be abit closer like the rest of the notes

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lol set of maps xD, anyway enjoy a star
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jericho2442 wrote:

Krisom's Intense
slider tick rate 1 please, 0.5 dont really suit it
Could you do this for me? It wont break anything in my diff
DJPop
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jericho2442 wrote:

Easy
01:00:588 (3) - this note timing is REALLY odd and dont play good, just a normal note at 01:00:888 plays much better
I don't like it ;_;

Normal
00:50:688 - a note would go great here
Not much fit imo.
01:01:788 (1) - this dont really need a new combo on, remove it i say
Fixed.

Hard
02:14:388 - add a note here so flows with 02:14:688 (2,3) atm its REALLY odd with them being different even though the music is the same
Added.

Krisom's Intense
slider tick rate 1 please, 0.5 dont really suit it
Fixed.

jericho2442 wrote:

ok first off i did some asking around and the 6 diff limit includes taiko and CTB diff's, so sorry but your gonna have to remove something since your diff are over the max amount. srry :/
If that so... I've to remove Krisom's because I want to save Taiko & CTB diffs for Taiko & CTB players :(
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อยากเล่น Project Diva 2nd ลงแล้วเล่นไม่ได้ QAQ
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i cant mod ctb or taiko :x


[general]

first timing section sounds better as 200.07 bpm
english subtitles? im curious to know what its saying



[prayed]
00:11:388 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - even up this pattern?
01:23:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ( ﾟＡﾟ)
02:16:488 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - umm... would you mind making this a bit more humanly possible?
02:18:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - ಠ_ಠ srsly?
[Kristom's insane]
00:12:438 (6,1) - move up to make 2-6 a pentagon shape

[hard]

ok

[normal]

ok

[easy]

ok

starring


[also, this is part of a mod4mod]
DJPop
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thekillerhjkhjk wrote:

[general]
first timing section sounds better as 200.07 bpm
200bpm is better imo.
english subtitles? im curious to know what its saying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEYkYf5cgvU

[prayed]
00:11:388 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - even up this pattern?
I don't understand - -"
01:23:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ( ﾟＡﾟ)
( ´▽｀).･: ﾟ ･。'.
02:16:488 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - umm... would you mind making this a bit more humanly possible?
It's possible :D
02:18:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - ಠ_ಠ srsly?
Yeah.
lepidopodus
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Just fast checked Taiko map.

Kanpakyin's Taiko
- Those big notes are still random for me :P (Yup, I'm quite conservative.)
00:57:213 (75,76,77) - Delete 77 and make 75 --> k.

I didn't mod this so if I have chance to mod this one, I'll star then.
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Play with easy (mod) is so fun >w<
Orz
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lepidopodus wrote:

Just fast checked Taiko map.

Kanpakyin's Taiko
- Those big notes are still random for me :P (Yup, I'm quite conservative.)lol
00:57:213 (75,76,77) - Delete 77 and make 75 --> k.done

I didn't mod this so if I have chance to mod this one, I'll star then.
Thank lepidopo -w-

Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Kanpakyin's Taiko].osu
climbb65588
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Oh, I love this song. Star~

Um ... may I map one more taiko diff? I have already told kanpakyin about that, and he also agree that.
( It doesn't means that mine substitute his. )
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6 is the limit, I can't take any more guest diffs :o
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DJPop wrote:

6 is the limit, I can't take any more guest diffs :o
Oh ... I'm really regretful for that. But thway, support kanpakyin :)
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New Fan Here of your maps The star will help you (again)
New diff?
Miu Matsuoka
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hi :3
here's some slight modding for [Steven's CTB]

0:27:588 (1) remove the slider finish hitsound
0:28:188 - 0:35:088 - change hitsound patterns similar to 0:37:788 - 0:44:688
0:36:588 (4) change the hitsound from wistle to finish
0:37:188 (10) ^
0:44:988 (1) add finish hitsound
0:45:588 (4) ^
0:46:188 (7) ^
2:16:488 - 2:18:888 - o_O is this possible!?
2:28:788 (1) remove spinner sound?
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cheukhin1985 wrote:

hi :3
here's some slight modding for [Steven's CTB]

0:27:588 (1) remove the slider finish hitsound Fixed
0:28:188 - 0:35:088 - change hitsound patterns similar to 0:37:788 - 0:44:688 some part fixed
0:36:588 (4) change the hitsound from wistle to finish fixed
0:37:188 (10) ^ fixed
0:44:988 (1) add finish hitsound fixed
0:45:588 (4) ^ fixed
0:46:188 (7) ^ fixed
2:16:488 - 2:18:888 - o_O is this possible!? yes it is possible.. a lot of pros test and told me that~~plz refer to this post~~
2:28:788 (1) remove spinner sound? yea.. i want to remove, but i don't know how to... I have change the volume to 0 but still can here something.. could you give me a hand?

anyway, a lot of hitsound mod~~ i know i am noob at it..
thx for modding~
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Steven's CTB].osu
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Updated... Please don't change any hitsounds I've done in your diff :(

ZHSteven wrote:

yea.. i want to remove, but i don't know how to... I have change the volume to 0 but still can here something.. could you give me a hand?
I can't silence it because I don't know what is the name of the wav file.
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:?: :?: :?: ...
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DJPop wrote:

Updated... Please don't change any hitsounds I've done in your diff :(

ZHSteven wrote:

yea.. i want to remove, but i don't know how to... I have change the volume to 0 but still can here something.. could you give me a hand?
I can't silence it because I don't know what is the name of the wav file.
Spinner sound: 'spinnerspin.wav'
Spinner bonus sound: 'spinnerbonus.wav'
;)
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Verdisphena wrote:


:?: :?: :?: ...
Extend time before map ends.

cheukhin1985 wrote:

Spinner sound: 'spinnerspin.wav'
Spinner bonus sound: 'spinnerbonus.wav'
;)
Included since first submitted :?
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DJPop wrote:

Updated... Please don't change any hitsounds I've done in your diff :(

ZHSteven wrote:

yea.. i want to remove, but i don't know how to... I have change the volume to 0 but still can here something.. could you give me a hand?
I can't silence it because I don't know what is the name of the wav file.
I am really Sorry..but that post only did hitsound mod, I know I am not good at it..So.. :(
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Another Miku map heh? =.=

Silencing slidertick AND sliderslide = NO

sliderticks may be silenced just for few cases, like one slidertick misplaced.

and making transparent sliderpoints.. sigh...

[Normal]
00:17:388 (1,2,3) - instead of making all these slider ends silent, use soft hitsounds. Silencing notes everytime like that is Hurr
02:29:688 (1) - As this is not the end of the spinner, I recommand not making it silent. try instead using some soft whistle HS for exemple.

[Hard]

why why why why why why why you know it's already been said not to do that.
Even if you'll say "But I didn't stack any notes I did it manually" This Is Not A Reason.
00:12:588 (1,2,3) - Same thing as Normal
00:25:788 (1) - This looks awful.
01:57:288 (1) - from here. Put the volume down, you can't even hear the music while doing these. Besides, try to hitsound that differently (like with soft set) because this is Ear Rape
02:16:488 (1) - same thing.
02:29:688 (1) - Same as Normal

[Prayed]
same thing about end sliders silenced.
same thing about ear rape
02:16:488 (1) - I was afraid to see something like that while modding the other diffs. and now I face my fears.
02:29:688 (1) - view earlier etc
This is not fun to play at all :(

[Taiko]
why no video?
I find the taiko really but really poor. Why? because it's based mainly on the Lyrics. it feels like a common osu diff played in taiko.
Besides, the parts during the mikustream just sound horrible : All the 5 streams feels like a random on (feels like the kats are randomly placed)
Dislikes.

[CTB]
dshggku:lj;,gfndkjvh
That's all I'll say.

I'm not Happy, Djpop.
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Why I'm I still on tags?
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Sushi wrote:

Silencing slidertick AND sliderslide = NO
sliderticks may be silenced just for few cases, like one slidertick misplaced.
Then why my maps are ranked with those things?

and making transparent sliderpoints.. sigh...
Have some ranked maps with it too.

[Normal]
00:17:388 (1,2,3) - instead of making all these slider ends silent, use soft hitsounds. Silencing notes everytime like that is Hurr
X
02:29:688 (1) - As this is not the end of the spinner, I recommand not making it silent. try instead using some soft whistle HS for exemple.
X

[Hard]
why why why why why why why you know it's already been said not to do that.
Even if you'll say "But I didn't stack any notes I did it manually" This Is Not A Reason.
Set stack 0.2 and everthings crash!
00:12:588 (1,2,3) - Same thing as Normal
X
00:25:788 (1) - This looks awful.
New trick to do.
01:57:288 (1) - from here. Put the volume down, you can't even hear the music while doing these. Besides, try to hitsound that differently (like with soft set) because this is Ear Rape
Fixed.
02:16:488 (1) - same thing.
Fixed.
02:29:688 (1) - Same as Normal
X

[Prayed]
same thing about end sliders silenced.
X
same thing about ear rape
Fixed.
02:16:488 (1) - I was afraid to see something like that while modding the other diffs. and now I face my fears.
X
02:29:688 (1) - view earlier etc
X

[Taiko]
why no video?
Weird letterbox.
I find the taiko really but really poor. Why? because it's based mainly on the Lyrics. it feels like a common osu diff played in taiko.
Besides, the parts during the mikustream just sound horrible : All the 5 streams feels like a random on (feels like the kats are randomly placed)
Dislikes.
@Kanpakyin

[CTB]
dshggku:lj;,gfndkjvh
That's all I'll say.
meh, CTB players like it.

Krisom wrote:

Why I'm I still on tags?
Fixed. Thanks for telling.
RandomJibberish
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DJPop wrote:

Sushi wrote:

Silencing slidertick AND sliderslide = NO
sliderticks may be silenced just for few cases, like one slidertick misplaced.
Then why my maps are ranked with those things?

and making transparent sliderpoints.. sigh...
Have some ranked maps with it too.
Jussoyaknow, having ranked maps with it doesn't mean it isn't wrong. FYI Silenced sliderticks and sliderslide and skinned away ticks are both unrankable. Just because you're popular enough to get away with it on occasion doesn't mean you're completely free from the rules
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DJPop wrote:

Silencing slidertick AND sliderslide = NO
sliderticks may be silenced just for few cases, like one slidertick misplaced.
Then why my maps are ranked with those things?

and making transparent sliderpoints.. sigh...
Have some ranked maps with it too.
Just because you've done it before doesn't mean its right. It SHOULDN'T have been ranked like that in the first place, but as opinions go around about these things, crap falls from the sky. Don't use older maps for examples and seriously..... transparent slider points? Come on... :|

ALSO

WHY is Steven's CTB 1st offset diffrent from the other difficulties? And what is up with the timing?

1. Offset: 1,788ms BPM: 400.00
2. Offset: 2,388ms BPM: Inhereted (2x)
8. Offset: 2,988ms BPM: 200.00
9. Offset: 3,288ms BPM: Inhereted (1x)
56. Offset: 64,038ms BPM: Inhereted (0.5x)

You can't physically change the BPM to get a faster slider speed. Its unrankable and this is the total of 5 (out of 3) BPM speeds. Plus, CTB maps are unrankable...
Sakura
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DJPop wrote:

Silencing slidertick AND sliderslide = NO
sliderticks may be silenced just for few cases, like one slidertick misplaced.
Then why my maps are ranked with those things?

and making transparent sliderpoints.. sigh...
Have some ranked maps with it too.
Sorry DJPop but i agree with Sushi, this is a rythm game, so hitsounds are important, and that doesn't mean you can silence them, if the hitsound can be muted then it probably shouldn't be there in the first place, in the way you used them they could have a LOWER volume but not completely mute.

Additionally, i dont know where it was started but i remember peppy saying that he didnt give CTB diffs an icon because they weren't rankable, not sure about the rules about that now, however they AND taiko diffs still count towards the 2 insane limit and you got 3 insanes 1 for each game mode, there's no real reason to make a CTB diff since most of the stuff can be done in an osu! standard diff as well, unlike taiko which has special rules like slider speed and hitsound arrangement and stuff.
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Sakura Hana wrote:

Additionally, i dont know where it was started but i remember peppy saying that he didnt give CTB diffs an icon because they weren't rankable
They're technically rankable, but really shouldn't be needed.

Sakura Hana wrote:

not sure about the rules about that now, however they AND taiko diffs still count towards the 2 insane limit and you got 3 insanes 1 for each game mode
Apparently taiko insanes don't count towards the insane limit anymore. Not sure about ctb insanes, though.

I digress... I also disagree with the silence techniques in this map for being both silly and unrankable. Change them.
Sakura
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whymeman wrote:

1. Offset: 1,788ms BPM: 400.00
2. Offset: 2,388ms BPM: Inhereted (2x)
8. Offset: 2,988ms BPM: 200.00
9. Offset: 3,288ms BPM: Inhereted (1x)
56. Offset: 64,038ms BPM: Inhereted (0.5x)

You can't physically change the BPM to get a faster slider speed. Its unrankable and this is the total of 5 (out of 3) BPM speeds.
Yeah that's slider speed abuse, and we've had a problem with a map recently... you're basically doubling the BPM and using a 2x slider speed line to achieve 4x? wth
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Sakura Hana wrote:

Additionally, i dont know where it was started but i remember peppy saying that he didnt give CTB diffs an icon because they weren't rankable, not sure about the rules about that now, however they AND taiko diffs still count towards the 2 insane limit and you got 3 insanes 1 for each game mode, there's no real reason to make a CTB diff since most of the stuff can be done in an osu! standard diff as well, unlike taiko which has special rules like slider speed and hitsound arrangement and stuff.
Seriously, I can accept "most of the stuff in standard mod can be also good in CTB diff", but it doesn't mean that we don't need a ctb only map ,because when arrange some of the good partern in ctb diff, it is extremely horrible in standard mode(some unexpected X2 slider, note after or before the spinner, some awesome red jump and max jumps), if you refer to the map inside of my signature, you will see the difference.
Also, diff in standard mode when play in ctb mode can be also awful(like in standard, the continuous triples or long streams with not big spacing may be very fun of play but very boring and stupid in CTB mode, and the so-called"horiZontal jumps" is harm to the ctb mode).
like the famous marisa, kanbu. That will be very fun in standard mode but boring in ctb.
And the most important thing is, joynama, hebi, and me(maybe another pro find it already)find the biggest bug-----"bug jumps(impossible jumps without red fruit" in ctb mode, and it is not easy to fix, So i think we really need to have a specific ctb being approved.
maps to refer:
Renard - Banned Forever
Shin Hae Chul - Sticks and Stones

I made a test map in order to test the bug jump.
Mutsuhiko Izumi - Tengoku to Jigoku
So I think we also need specific diff for ctb now.


Edit:
also, you are talking about the timing inside my diff? ok all I want to do is to make the first slider fill in the plate. 200 bpm is not enough.
OK, if that is unrankable, I will change it into note instead~~
Download: Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Gekishou (DJPop) [Steven's CTB].osu
Sakura
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Hold up there, i just got some info that CTB only diffs are unrankable so it cannot be included in this mapset if it wants to be ranked
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nothing i would say here @_@! just back and read what other ppl have said


But I still think that slience sliderslide is ok XD~ don't mind me
kanpakyin
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Sushi wrote:

[Taiko]
why no video?
I find the taiko really but really poor. Why? because it's based mainly on the Lyrics. it feels like a common osu diff played in taiko.
Besides, the parts during the mikustream just sound horrible : All the 5 streams feels like a random on (feels like the kats are randomly placed)
Dislikes. :|
First I want to said that...Taiko uausally follow the Lyrics if I am not following that...It poor of that
Than..5 stream is basic..I can do any long stream in this song because it is difficult if BPM200 put a lot of long stream
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You guys always critical unrankable things, but have you guys remembered that there is no rules but they're guidelines.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=439

And I believe some people who critical to this map not ever touch it again when it gets ranked even things are fixed or not.


Why I silence those sliderslide and slidertick? Because I HATE them.
Sliderslide sounds are just like something dragging along the floor, hearing them while playing is freaking annoying.
Slidertick sounds aren't that annoying, but don't match the music in many cases, I'd prefer to mute them even slider tick rate 0.5 no exception.


Sakura Hana wrote:

Hold up there, i just got some info that CTB only diffs are unrankable so it cannot be included in this mapset if it wants to be ranked
First was Taiko, and now CTB!? One of the most stupid rule I've ever seen.
If CTB diff is unrankable, while the specific CTB mode option is available to choose?
There are many CTB players now and surely want to play maps which suitable for CTB mode.
Do you want to prevent CTB players to have fun?


whymeman wrote:

WHY is Steven's CTB 1st offset diffrent from the other difficulties? And what is up with the timing?
Change BPM doesn't mean the speed of falling fruit will change.
That 800bpm is just to make the fruit falling with wider spacings.
You can't take the natural guidelines to judge special case like CTB maps.
Only thing can critical CTB diffs is any type of spacing mods.


If there are rules about unrankable things. Make a topic publicly and stick it so everyone knows that whatever they shouldn't do.

Then again, I disagree that silent slider sounds are unrankable, however,
I really more disagree that specific CTB diffs are unrankable.
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DJPop wrote:

That 800bpm is just to make the fruit falling with wider spacings.
The metronome will change on the selection screen in a weird way that wont fit the music. You should know this. Also, if he want wider spacing, he can always, you know, turn distance snap off.

That's all I'll say here.
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