Hi, both irc and post mod from me
Solid map, fun to play. Good luck on ranking it! BN's, please take attention and rank some Dream Theater...
asthONIshing irc part
2017-02-10 03:31 frukoyurdakul: can i do irc mod?
2017-02-10 03:31 magnomizer: umm if you want...? kinda busy over this end though
2017-02-10 03:32 magnomizer: but sure
2017-02-10 03:32 magnomizer: dump text
2017-02-10 03:32 magnomizer: and I'll replpy every now and then
2017-02-10 03:32 frukoyurdakul: well, then i prefer post
2017-02-10 03:32 frukoyurdakul: i need to discuss if i am doing an irc mod
2017-02-10 03:32 magnomizer: OH lol
2017-02-10 03:32 magnomizer: well you can do irc mod if you want
2017-02-10 03:32 magnomizer: yeah
2017-02-10 03:32 frukoyurdakul: okay so
2017-02-10 03:32 frukoyurdakul: 00:21:487 -
2017-02-10 03:32 frukoyurdakul: the timing point right there
2017-02-10 03:33 frukoyurdakul: there is no offset change and signature reset so you can remove it
2017-02-10 03:34 magnomizer: o I kept that there
2017-02-10 03:34 magnomizer: to avoid stray bar lines
2017-02-10 03:34 magnomizer: to make it look better LOL
2017-02-10 03:34 magnomizer: I suppose I could get rid of it yeah
2017-02-10 03:35 frukoyurdakul: since there is no offset change
2017-02-10 03:35 magnomizer: actually it should be fine I think
2017-02-10 03:35 frukoyurdakul: the time bars will not intercept
2017-02-10 03:35 frukoyurdakul: each other
2017-02-10 03:35 magnomizer: what do you mean?
2017-02-10 03:35 magnomizer: I didn't change any bpm
2017-02-10 03:35 frukoyurdakul: the timing point is exactly on the beat
2017-02-10 03:35 frukoyurdakul: no after, no before
2017-02-10 03:36 frukoyurdakul: and the measure of the previous point is 1/4, so you don't need another timing point here
2017-02-10 03:36 frukoyurdakul: deleting it will not change anything, means it's unneccesary
2017-02-10 03:36 magnomizer: i just wanted to get rid of some stray bar lines that's all
2017-02-10 03:37 magnomizer: so it looks empty when you play
2017-02-10 03:37 frukoyurdakul: okay wait
2017-02-10 03:37 magnomizer: I do notice that this is unsnapped tho
2017-02-10 03:37 magnomizer: 00:22:959 -
2017-02-10 03:38 frukoyurdakul: yeap, but the offset of the notes is fine
2017-02-10 03:38 frukoyurdakul: oooh
2017-02-10 03:38 frukoyurdakul: now i see your point :D
2017-02-10 03:38 frukoyurdakul: 00:22:962 (69) - this note is unsnapped btw
2017-02-10 03:40 magnomizer: yyeah I know
2017-02-10 03:40 magnomizer: fixing
2017-02-10 03:40 frukoyurdakul: 03:55:354 -
2017-02-10 03:40 frukoyurdakul: you can use inherited point here instead of a normal one
2017-02-10 03:40 frukoyurdakul: no signature changes or signature resets have been made at this point
2017-02-10 03:40 frukoyurdakul: you just opened kiai
2017-02-10 03:42 magnomizer: wait still fixing time
2017-02-10 03:42 frukoyurdakul: okay im waiting
2017-02-10 03:43 magnomizer: I'm gonna leave it unsnapped actually, I mean I take some time between spaces at points
2017-02-10 03:44 magnomizer: sometimes I wonder if it is actaully 160.005 bpm
2017-02-10 03:44 magnomizer: I mean
2017-02-10 03:44 magnomizer: 162.995
2017-02-10 03:44 magnomizer: but yeah
2017-02-10 03:44 frukoyurdakul: well
2017-02-10 03:44 frukoyurdakul: 1 or 2 ms difference for one note only isn't that important
2017-02-10 03:45 magnomizer: ALL THE NOTES BECOME UNSNAPPED
2017-02-10 03:45 frukoyurdakul: wew
2017-02-10 03:45 frukoyurdakul: what did u do
2017-02-10 03:45 magnomizer: if you change it to an inherited point
2017-02-10 03:45 magnomizer: all notes unsnap
2017-02-10 03:45 magnomizer: it's a rounding error of sorts
2017-02-10 03:46 frukoyurdakul: that's weird :D but okay
2017-02-10 03:46 frukoyurdakul: i've never seen that before
2017-02-10 03:46 magnomizer: it happens a lot
2017-02-10 03:46 magnomizer: if you go any of your maps with multiple bpm changes
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: if you delete all the timing points
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: except the first one
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: ehh not bpm change
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: I meant time signature chage
2017-02-10 03:47 frukoyurdakul: yea i got it, that might be true
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: I can guarantee all notes become unsnapped, very quickly
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: in fact if you delete alal the timing points hee
2017-02-10 03:47 magnomizer: here*
2017-02-10 03:48 magnomizer: you'll find that the final note moves by at least 1/4 snap
2017-02-10 03:48 frukoyurdakul: wew
2017-02-10 03:49 frukoyurdakul: okay then timing looks good
2017-02-10 03:49 frukoyurdakul: 00:17:991 - how about adding a don here?
2017-02-10 03:49 frukoyurdakul: it's not as low as 00:16:150 - here
2017-02-10 03:51 magnomizer: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7280793
2017-02-10 03:51 magnomizer: that SV
2017-02-10 03:51 frukoyurdakul: WTF
2017-02-10 03:51 frukoyurdakul: lmao
2017-02-10 03:52 magnomizer: 00:18:221 (63) -
2017-02-10 03:52 magnomizer: wondering if I should move the note here
2017-02-10 03:53 frukoyurdakul: why?
2017-02-10 03:53 frukoyurdakul: and, which note?
2017-02-10 03:53 magnomizer: 00:19:278 (64) -
2017-02-10 03:53 magnomizer: ehh whoops glitch
2017-02-10 03:54 magnomizer: move
2017-02-10 03:54 magnomizer: 00:18:221 -
2017-02-10 03:54 magnomizer: 63 move to here
2017-02-10 03:54 frukoyurdakul: it's original position is good
2017-02-10 03:54 frukoyurdakul: you don't need 1/8 snap for that
2017-02-10 03:54 magnomizer: yeah but can u hear the music??
2017-02-10 03:55 frukoyurdakul: welp
2017-02-10 03:55 frukoyurdakul: it actually sounds right here
2017-02-10 03:55 magnomizer: yeahhhh :/
2017-02-10 03:55 frukoyurdakul: okay since there is no time signature in the gameplay here, i think you can move it
2017-02-10 03:56 frukoyurdakul: its not an unranked thing, raiden did 1/16 snap in apparition
2017-02-10 03:56 magnomizer: really?
2017-02-10 03:56 magnomizer: WHERE?
2017-02-10 03:56 frukoyurdakul: yeap
2017-02-10 03:56 frukoyurdakul: hold on
2017-02-10 03:57 frukoyurdakul: 03:42:237 (39) -
2017-02-10 03:57 frukoyurdakul: starting from here
2017-02-10 03:57 magnomizer: that's 1/12
2017-02-10 03:57 frukoyurdakul: look closer
2017-02-10 03:58 frukoyurdakul: the notes are supposed to be the pink ones
2017-02-10 03:58 magnomizer: yeah, it's 1/12
2017-02-10 03:58 frukoyurdakul: not the grey one
2017-02-10 03:58 magnomizer: I'm looking real close
2017-02-10 03:58 frukoyurdakul: supposed to be on the pink ones*
2017-02-10 03:58 magnomizer: not sure what you're on about
2017-02-10 03:59 frukoyurdakul: 03:41:112 - take the timing here
2017-02-10 03:59 frukoyurdakul: and press tab
2017-02-10 03:59 frukoyurdakul: no, not tab
2017-02-10 03:59 frukoyurdakul: f5
2017-02-10 03:59 frukoyurdakul: 03:42:903 (43) - you will see this note on outside the measure
2017-02-10 04:00 magnomizer: yeah, that's still 1/12 snap
2017-02-10 04:00 frukoyurdakul: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7280840
2017-02-10 04:00 magnomizer: look change beatsnap divisor to 1/12
2017-02-10 04:00 frukoyurdakul: the correct ones must be these
2017-02-10 04:00 frukoyurdakul: and yet raiden take the notes 1/12 snap back
2017-02-10 04:01 frukoyurdakul: because the sounds are actually here
2017-02-10 04:01 frukoyurdakul: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7280844
2017-02-10 04:01 magnomizer: raiden is correct tho
2017-02-10 04:01 frukoyurdakul: can you see the difference now?
2017-02-10 04:01 magnomizer: th[e sounds do appear slightly earlier to warrant a 1/12 snap back
2017-02-10 04:01 frukoyurdakul: yes
2017-02-10 04:01 magnomizer: the voice
2017-02-10 04:01 frukoyurdakul: the exact same situation on your map
2017-02-10 04:01 magnomizer: yeah, but what is this 1/16th nonesense about
2017-02-10 04:02 frukoyurdakul: i was wrong it's 1/12
2017-02-10 04:02 frukoyurdakul: :D
2017-02-10 04:02 frukoyurdakul: sorry about that
2017-02-10 04:02 magnomizer: tsk tsk
2017-02-10 04:02 frukoyurdakul: you can see it on the snapshot
2017-02-10 04:03 frukoyurdakul: so my final word is, i think moving the 63 to 00:18:221 - here won't be a problem
2017-02-10 04:03 frukoyurdakul: i am not a good modder am i? :(
2017-02-10 04:04 magnomizer: it's OK
2017-02-10 04:04 frukoyurdakul: so, 00:22:223 - why did u skip this note?
2017-02-10 04:05 frukoyurdakul: i think it's obvious enough to put a don
2017-02-10 04:05 magnomizer: too quiet
2017-02-10 04:05 frukoyurdakul: okay then
2017-02-10 04:06 frukoyurdakul: 00:25:538 -
2017-02-10 04:06 frukoyurdakul: you can delete this break here sliding it to the right
2017-02-10 04:06 frukoyurdakul: :D
2017-02-10 04:06 frukoyurdakul: 00:39:893 - also this one
2017-02-10 04:07 magnomizer: wait how to delet breaak?
2017-02-10 04:07 magnomizer: how????
2017-02-10 04:08 frukoyurdakul: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7280885
2017-02-10 04:08 frukoyurdakul: put your mouse onto the break like this
2017-02-10 04:08 frukoyurdakul: well, the "break" label
2017-02-10 04:08 magnomizer: I don't see your mouse in screshot
2017-02-10 04:08 frukoyurdakul: i saw that :D
2017-02-10 04:09 frukoyurdakul: https://puu.sh/tW8Fe/ba05613fb7.jpg
2017-02-10 04:09 frukoyurdakul: i think you can see it
2017-02-10 04:09 frukoyurdakul: and drag it like this
2017-02-10 04:10 frukoyurdakul: https://puu.sh/tW8II/e016015944.png
2017-02-10 04:10 frukoyurdakul: (link)[https://puu.sh/tW8II/e016015944.png]
2017-02-10 04:10 magnomizer: aha
2017-02-10 04:10 frukoyurdakul: it works on short breaks :D
2017-02-10 04:10 magnomizer: ok done
2017-02-10 04:10 frukoyurdakul: 00:39:893 - you can do it on also this one
2017-02-10 04:11 frukoyurdakul: now, 00:54:433 (73) -
2017-02-10 04:11 frukoyurdakul: i think this can be don
2017-02-10 04:11 frukoyurdakul: since there is no snare sound. but i'll understand if you put here as a kat for variation
2017-02-10 04:12 frukoyurdakul: because you put here a don: 00:59:954 (115) -
2017-02-10 04:12 frukoyurdakul: and the parts are actually sounding the same
2017-02-10 04:12 magnomizer: yeah
2017-02-10 04:12 magnomizer: variation
2017-02-10 04:13 magnomizer: and non drums following
2017-02-10 04:13 magnomizer: I did it for the flow
2017-02-10 04:13 magnomizer: otherwise it would be kdddkdddkdddkddd
2017-02-10 04:13 magnomizer: structure
2017-02-10 04:13 frukoyurdakul: yeap
2017-02-10 04:13 magnomizer: whic would be a bit boring
2017-02-10 04:13 magnomizer: so i put some kddkkdddkddkk sth like that
2017-02-10 04:13 frukoyurdakul: 01:05:936 (157) -
2017-02-10 04:13 frukoyurdakul: i think this is the same as well
2017-02-10 04:14 frukoyurdakul: 01:21:120 (265,266,267,268,269) - you can turn these to kkkkD
2017-02-10 04:14 magnomizer: wait holy up
2017-02-10 04:14 magnomizer: what about 105/
2017-02-10 04:15 frukoyurdakul: 00:58:482 (105) -
2017-02-10 04:15 frukoyurdakul: this?
2017-02-10 04:15 frukoyurdakul: well, variation is important but the map needs consistency as well
2017-02-10 04:16 magnomizer: so you want me to change to k?
2017-02-10 04:16 magnomizer: or what?
2017-02-10 04:17 frukoyurdakul: 00:52:961 (63) -
2017-02-10 04:17 magnomizer: btw if you make your promethean king map good enough
2017-02-10 04:17 magnomizer: it could make it to twc tb just sayin
2017-02-10 04:17 magnomizer: it's one of the few marathon style maps hard enough
2017-02-10 04:18 frukoyurdakul: what? i hope so :D
2017-02-10 04:18 frukoyurdakul: 00:52:961 (63) -
2017-02-10 04:18 frukoyurdakul: this is don, so i think you keep 105 as a don too
2017-02-10 04:18 magnomizer: 105 is a d
2017-02-10 04:18 magnomizer: ?
2017-02-10 04:18 frukoyurdakul: yes
2017-02-10 04:18 magnomizer: like it's already a d?
2017-02-10 04:18 frukoyurdakul: ye
2017-02-10 04:19 frukoyurdakul: you need to keep is as a d
2017-02-10 04:19 magnomizer: oh ok
2017-02-10 04:19 frukoyurdakul: 01:21:120 (265,266,267,268,269) -
2017-02-10 04:19 frukoyurdakul: kkkdK
2017-02-10 04:20 frukoyurdakul: it's kinda hard
2017-02-10 04:20 frukoyurdakul: either you can delete 01:21:396 (268) - this
2017-02-10 04:20 frukoyurdakul: too keep 01:21:488 (269) - this as a finisher
2017-02-10 04:20 frukoyurdakul: or you can change it to kkkkD
2017-02-10 04:20 frukoyurdakul: but if you change it to kkkkD then
2017-02-10 04:20 magnomizer: gonna be super stubborn about this one
2017-02-10 04:20 frukoyurdakul: 01:22:224 (270) -
2017-02-10 04:21 frukoyurdakul: two DONS will not sound good
2017-02-10 04:21 frukoyurdakul: so i suggest the first one :D
2017-02-10 04:21 magnomizer: I will be keeping the don
2017-02-10 04:21 magnomizer: the drums clearly play dons
2017-02-10 04:21 magnomizer: and I know it's hard
2017-02-10 04:21 magnomizer: I hope you can understand tho
2017-02-10 04:22 frukoyurdakul: 01:21:120 (265,266,267,268) - these are 4 snares
2017-02-10 04:22 frukoyurdakul: 01:21:488 (269) - and this one is a cymba
2017-02-10 04:22 frukoyurdakul: cymbal crash
2017-02-10 04:22 frukoyurdakul: making 269 KAT is good
2017-02-10 04:23 magnomizer: so you're suggestion
2017-02-10 04:23 frukoyurdakul: it sound really good
2017-02-10 04:23 frukoyurdakul: 01:21:396 (268) - if you delete this everybody can play comfortably
2017-02-10 04:23 magnomizer: unfortunately kkkkK is not allowed
2017-02-10 04:23 magnomizer: i really wanted a note
2017-02-10 04:23 frukoyurdakul: haha :D okay keep it
2017-02-10 04:23 magnomizer: ughhhh
2017-02-10 04:24 frukoyurdakul: there is an already a 1/1 gap to make the player relax a little bit
2017-02-10 04:24 magnomizer: it would take away from difficulty
2017-02-10 04:25 frukoyurdakul: 01:23:789 - i hear a snare here
2017-02-10 04:25 frukoyurdakul: i think you can change this to kat
2017-02-10 04:26 frukoyurdakul: a strong snare actually, stronger than 01:23:697 (279) - this one
2017-02-10 04:26 frukoyurdakul: if you accept this one you need to change 01:24:893 (292) - this one too
2017-02-10 04:26 magnomizer: OK I CAN JUTSIFY THIS
2017-02-10 04:26 magnomizer: I wnat the triplet feel
2017-02-10 04:27 magnomizer: so if I put anything else
2017-02-10 04:27 magnomizer: it doesn't create as strong a triple fele
2017-02-10 04:27 frukoyurdakul: okay
2017-02-10 04:27 frukoyurdakul: that's your map
2017-02-10 04:27 magnomizer: sorry
2017-02-10 04:27 magnomizer: I'm just rejecting a lot of your suggest
2017-02-10 04:27 frukoyurdakul: 01:25:905 (303) - since this is a finisher
2017-02-10 04:27 frukoyurdakul: 01:25:629 (300) - and there is a snare
2017-02-10 04:28 frukoyurdakul: 01:25:537 (299,300,301,302,303) - kkkkD
2017-02-10 04:28 frukoyurdakul: will fit much better
2017-02-10 04:30 magnomizer: deciding
2017-02-10 04:30 magnomizer: thinking
2017-02-10 04:31 frukoyurdakul: i think you'll accept this one tho
2017-02-10 04:31 magnomizer: hard to say
2017-02-10 04:31 magnomizer: if someone else says ig
2017-02-10 04:31 magnomizer: it*
2017-02-10 04:31 magnomizer: then I'll change
2017-02-10 04:31 frukoyurdakul: -_
2017-02-10 04:31 frukoyurdakul: -_-
2017-02-10 04:32 magnomizer: while your version is indeed more accurate
2017-02-10 04:32 magnomizer: idk
2017-02-10 04:32 magnomizer: both are equally good
2017-02-10 04:32 frukoyurdakul: not really
2017-02-10 04:32 frukoyurdakul: kdkkD
2017-02-10 04:32 frukoyurdakul: a bit hard for me, but whatever :D
2017-02-10 04:33 frukoyurdakul: 01:31:519 (349) - there is not a kick sound here
2017-02-10 04:33 frukoyurdakul: i think this don is not neccesary
2017-02-10 04:33 magnomizer: afk
2017-02-10 04:33 frukoyurdakul: i'll put these to the thread as an irc mod and i'll mod the rest of it as a normal mod then
asthONIshing rest of it
01:31:519 (349) - There is no kick sound and 01:31:887 - there is a snare sound here. So i think you can remove the first one, 01:31:795 (352) - remove the finisher on that and 01:31:887 - put a kat here.
01:33:084 (360,361,362,363,364) - How about changing this section to kkkkd? The first 4 sounds are strong snares.
01:45:783 (446,447,448,449,450) - I know it won't match the beginning of the chorus but the sounds are going like kkddK, so i suggest changing the pattern like that.
01:51:212 - Why skipped this kick here? I recommend putting a don.
01:55:905 - ^
01:56:457 (512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524) - A long pattern for non-drum attack, i think you can divide this into triplets, 5-plets or 7-plets.
01:58:481 (527,528) - These will sound good in 01:59:034 - here and 01:59:033 (529,530) - these will sound good 01:58:482 - here based on the drum sounds.
02:01:886 (540,543) - Ctrl + g? The snare sound is on 543 actually.
02:20:383 (650,651,652,653,654,655) - How about kkddkdd ?
02:23:513 (673) - There is no sound here, i think you can delete this note.
02:26:734 - I hear a kick sound here, i think you can add a don.
02:36:396 (778,781,784) - Maybe you want to make more dense the kiai part but there are no drums or vocals either. I think you need to delete those.
02:37:868 (786,787) - Ctrl + g? The snare is on 787.
02:42:102 (813,814) - ^
02:59:586 (911) - Kat will match the snare sound.
03:05:476 (944) - ^
03:15:506 (1003) - Well, it's good for variation but since there is a snare sound, i recommend changing this to kat.
03:16:334 (1011) - A kat is not neccesary here imo.
03:26:826 (1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089) - If you followed the keyboards, they are 1/3, not 1/4.
03:44:127 (1208) - I think you can change this to kat to match the china (a part of the drum cymbals) sound.
03:45:598 (1222) - ^
03:47:071 (1238) - ^
03:53:881 (1301,1302,1303,1304) - It's good to follow the guitar, but i think the patterns will be much better if you follow the drums.
04:12:655 (1455,1456,1457) - Since you are following the guitar, i think you can delete these notes and from 04:12:655 - here to 04:13:207 - there you can put a slider.
04:33:084 (1618,1619) - Ctrl + g? Snare sound is on the first one.
04:43:391 (1665) - I think you can move this one to 04:43:575 - here. But in that way, it still looks good.
04:50:200 (1695) - Don? Kick is really strong. Based on the drums though.
05:09:342 - I think you can make longer patterns because the music is higher than the other parts, but a deathstream? Maybe not good here don't you think?
05:23:084 (1952) - You can turn this to a don since the drum sound is very low.
05:51:304 (2156) - Remove the finisher and turn this to a kat, there is only a snare sound here.
05:52:041 - A kick sound exist here and 05:52:225 - here.
01:33:084 (360,361,362,363,364) - How about changing this section to kkkkd? The first 4 sounds are strong snares.
01:45:783 (446,447,448,449,450) - I know it won't match the beginning of the chorus but the sounds are going like kkddK, so i suggest changing the pattern like that.
01:51:212 - Why skipped this kick here? I recommend putting a don.
01:55:905 - ^
01:56:457 (512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522,523,524) - A long pattern for non-drum attack, i think you can divide this into triplets, 5-plets or 7-plets.
01:58:481 (527,528) - These will sound good in 01:59:034 - here and 01:59:033 (529,530) - these will sound good 01:58:482 - here based on the drum sounds.
02:01:886 (540,543) - Ctrl + g? The snare sound is on 543 actually.
02:20:383 (650,651,652,653,654,655) - How about kkddkdd ?
02:23:513 (673) - There is no sound here, i think you can delete this note.
02:26:734 - I hear a kick sound here, i think you can add a don.
02:36:396 (778,781,784) - Maybe you want to make more dense the kiai part but there are no drums or vocals either. I think you need to delete those.
02:37:868 (786,787) - Ctrl + g? The snare is on 787.
02:42:102 (813,814) - ^
02:59:586 (911) - Kat will match the snare sound.
03:05:476 (944) - ^
03:15:506 (1003) - Well, it's good for variation but since there is a snare sound, i recommend changing this to kat.
03:16:334 (1011) - A kat is not neccesary here imo.
03:26:826 (1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089) - If you followed the keyboards, they are 1/3, not 1/4.
03:44:127 (1208) - I think you can change this to kat to match the china (a part of the drum cymbals) sound.
03:45:598 (1222) - ^
03:47:071 (1238) - ^
03:53:881 (1301,1302,1303,1304) - It's good to follow the guitar, but i think the patterns will be much better if you follow the drums.
04:12:655 (1455,1456,1457) - Since you are following the guitar, i think you can delete these notes and from 04:12:655 - here to 04:13:207 - there you can put a slider.
04:33:084 (1618,1619) - Ctrl + g? Snare sound is on the first one.
04:43:391 (1665) - I think you can move this one to 04:43:575 - here. But in that way, it still looks good.
04:50:200 (1695) - Don? Kick is really strong. Based on the drums though.
05:09:342 - I think you can make longer patterns because the music is higher than the other parts, but a deathstream? Maybe not good here don't you think?
05:23:084 (1952) - You can turn this to a don since the drum sound is very low.
05:51:304 (2156) - Remove the finisher and turn this to a kat, there is only a snare sound here.
05:52:041 - A kick sound exist here and 05:52:225 - here.
Solid map, fun to play. Good luck on ranking it! BN's, please take attention and rank some Dream Theater...