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Banshi - Kotonoha

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Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

Naotoshi wrote:

as discussed

[night world]
some rhythm stuff more or less, spacing looked fine

00:03:393 (4) - should not be mapped imo. the melody followed by 00:02:755 (1,2,3,5) - is not present there. - Yes
00:03:553 (5) - similarly i think that this slider should have both parts clickable. since the melody is on the slider end, it should be equally emphasized. - Yes

00:08:819 (4) - should both be clickable too, same reason - I don't agree on that point tho, I think the slider is better to emphasis the next sound on 00:09:138 (1) - so I prefer keep it if possible.

00:10:414 (1,2) - blanket plz - Yes

00:15:202 (8) - imo ctrl g here would be a lot more comfortable and better since the massive slow down of cursor movement and wide angle combined make this really weird to play - Yes why not.

00:18:872 - add 1/8th kicksliders? - That's something I would dislike myself a lot to play so no I prefer 100% sure my stream.

00:24:776 (9) - should definitely make both clickable cuz melody - Would be badly inconsistent with 00:22:223 (9) - , and 00:24:776 (9,10) - are great combined together.

00:28:287 (1,1,1) - nc spam doesn't add much here imo. kinda unneeded. - Yes

00:27:329 (9) - u didnt use a 3/4 slider at 00:22:223 (9) - , why here? - Probably thought it was coooool but fixed.

00:31:638 - don't like how the melody is placed on the slider end here. - Well it's because I focus more on violin and took only piano as addivite elements on this part because it comes after the violin melody.

00:32:914 (12,13) - seems a bit too big of a jump considering that the supporting sounds for these are just background drum stuff - Yes,
, addapted them to fit more the song.

00:34:989 (9) - should also be 2 circles imo. - Nah, fit too well the song with this background instrument you can hear on 00:35:468 (11) - and that's why I did a 1 circle 1 slider (00:34:829 (8,9,10,11) - ) to match it the best with this section.

00:40:095 (5,2) - stack these instead so it looks nicer
also lower your stack leniency so it doesnt get fucked up like it currently is lmao - Rework a bit to fix your suggestion and be more nice visually.

00:50:148 (2) - shouldn't nc be here? since new instrument - Swap with 00:49:989 - .

00:58:925 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this entire thing is overmapped. why not at least use kicksliders if you want to increase the intensity? - Only 00:58:925 (1,2,3,4) - is indeed overmapped, changed them for two kick sliders as you suggested. Rest have sounds for sure, also did a bit of rework due to that change.


01:01:957 (3,4) - ctrl g here seems to follow the synth melody better. - Yes

01:02:755 (1,2) - this is soooo anticlimactic. can you split this 1/1 up into stuff so that there isn't just a 1/1 break with no cursor movement right as the song starts to get more intense? - Added a circle at 01:03:233 - because there's a sound when it would have be too akward at 01:02:914 - .
also 01:03:393 - can u also make this look nicer - Yes

01:03:712 (5) - 2 circles here? - Would be inconsistent with 01:08:819 (5) - and I prefer that to fit instrument.

01:09:776 (4,5,6,7) - ctrl g plz.. u put clickable triple on the random background shit and not on the melody? - Fixed

01:12:489 (4,5,1) - ctrl g on this rhythm also seems like it follows the melody more closely. - Yes

01:14:244 (1,1,1) - omg
the song divides into 2 sets of 1/3 beats but you divided the map into 3 sets... as a result 01:14:882 - this slider end is clearly stronger -
K everyone complained about them so it's now two reverses as someone else suggested before but imo it sucks and don't fit as much it was with 3 sliders.

01:20:946 (3,5) - stack? - Yes

01:24:775 (2,3) - ctrl g here follows melody a bit better imo. - Yes

01:25:255 (5,6) - same here

01:41:691 (1,2,3,4) - make this look better plz - Should be a bit better yes.
also 01:41:691 - 1/8th kicksliders? - I hate that lol so no thx sorry.

01:49:031 (3,5,6) - make triangle even here - Yes

hel yea i think u should follow melody more closely! - Yes it's better now thankyu (I was young when I mapped this lol).

[hard]
00:26:691 (4,5) - ctrl g here plz - Yes

00:35:946 (1,2) - plz visual spacing holy shit - hope it's better for you.

00:40:414 (3,4) - maybe add in a triple or two here? for spread purposes, the insane uses triples all over the place, having a hard with none of them feels weird. - It would be stupid since it's the same as Insane here lol.

01:31:478 (3) - same - Yes

01:40:095 (2) - aa just map it imo... this isn't a normal >.> - Yes

same thing about triple for the last reverse slider part at 01:55:095 (1) - - Insane is easier on that part XD so no.

[normal]
01:01:478 (1) - imo a rhythm like http://puu.sh/vFaTn/05a93babd7.jpg works better to follow song. same in the next time it happens. -
Yes

01:12:967 (4) - imo should be repeat slider. 01:13:606 (5) - is quite a weak note to have clickable. - Yes also reworked the entire next pattern in the same time.


lmk when u respond
Waiting for Aia zzz
Thanks a lot~
Aia
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Aia

Naotoshi wrote:

[aia's insane]
00:26:691 (5,1) - 00:27:967 (5,1) - don't really like how you mix stacking 1/1 and 1/2 here. might be hard to read for noobs who play insane diffs.

00:37:542 (2) - i know what this followed but having a held out thing here seemed pretty out of place to me. imo 2 circles fits better with the main melody.

00:38:819 (3) - dont think this should be mapped, since melody is off here.

00:59:563 (3,4) - should convert this to a stream. the density of the top diff is much higher than this one's, to make the spread a bit more even i suggest adding in a few more bursts since the top diff uses 16 note streams in quite a few places.

01:03:712 (6) - should be 2 circles imo. slider end is quite strong. I feel like having this as a slider is better, I don't hear any distinct sound on it other than the one I've mapped it to as a slider?

01:39:856 (1) - again, for spread purposes, i suggest mapping at least quints here since in the top diff there is a massive stream mapped here and ignoring it entirely in terms of the clicking for the diff below is not good.
everything else fixed

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415,147,107276,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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65,278,107755,1,0,1:0:0:0:
183,334,107914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
183,334,107994,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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405,184,108553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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206,75,109191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,75,109271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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394,79,110547,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Nao Tomori
Nomination Assessment Team
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Nao Tomori
added whistles in extra
added streams in insane
added triples in hard
added bubble to mapset
Chaoslitz
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Joined November 2013
Chaoslitz
heyy

[General]
  1. Can add tags "NIZI-RINGO" "NIZI" "RINGO"
[Easy]
  1. 00:58:606 - Missing normal samples
  2. 01:10:414 - Missing whistle
[Normal]
  1. 00:34:191 (3) - It is not a good idea to skip those white ticks but following drum in red only in this pattern, it will confuse beginners and cannot follow the rhythm properly
  2. 01:14:882 - I think this should be S:C1 instead of S
  3. 01:14:244 (1,2) - They should be snapped to 1/3 instead =3=
[Hard]
  1. 00:39:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think it is better to follow the ds snap instead of placing in this way, also it may be too harsh for players to hit the triples after holding those 1/4 reverse for so long lol
  2. 01:31:478 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - yea still think it is a bit harsh >_>, i think two 1/4 reverse sliders would be better
  3. 01:55:095 (1,2,3) - ye same thing about the ds
[Aia's Insane]
  1. 00:31:797 (8) - 00:37:542 - 00:58:606 - Missing normal sampleset
  2. 00:59:563 (3,7) - ^
  3. 01:14:244 (1,2) - same as normal, should be snapped to 1/3
  4. 01:17:595 - 01:18:074 - missing whistle
  5. 01:31:478 (4) - Ctrl+g becuase it is now in opposite direction
  6. 01:40:095 - are hitsounds missing starting from here till kiai?
[Night]
  1. 00:27:170 (8,9,10,11) - would be nice if they are symmetric = 3= (you can blanket 00:27:329 (9) under 00:25:893 (2)'s end to do the symmetric)
  2. 01:47:436 (1) - that whistle slide :v you dont need whistle in the slider body

call me back when nao rebubbled it =w=/
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi
Fixed everything from your suggestions Chaoslitz thanks a lot ><
Waiting for Aia about small things you pointed for her, since I fixed hitsounds already.
Fixed since was basically really small changes but important one.

Updated~
Nao Tomori
Nomination Assessment Team
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Nao Tomori
reconfirmed snapping stuff >.>
Chaoslitz
Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder
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Chaoslitz
Qualified~
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

Speedranking is real.

Big thanks Chaoslitz and Nao ♥
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schoolboy
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schoolboy
you forgot to give nao kds
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

Komore wrote:

you forgot to give nao kds
Gosh I should stop forgetting that thx lol
Luel Roseline
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Luel Roseline

Nozhomi wrote:

Komore wrote:

you forgot to give nao kds
Gosh I should stop forgetting that thx lol
Nao + Metadata Miss Nerf
sry patch. It's golden time now.

01:40:893 - Add timingpoint with volume 45%
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

Luel Roseline wrote:

Nao + Metadata Miss Nerf
sry patch. It's golden time now.
Could you explain me what is wrong with the current one ? Because I don't see anything wrong with metadata right now. If you talk about adding other artists on tags, I don't think they're accurate since they're part of album but not the song.

Luel Roseline wrote:

01:40:893 - Add timingpoint with volume 45%
Why ? I did increase by 10% each time, would be not coherent to add one only for this.
IamKwaN
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IamKwaN
I could not spot any flaws in metadata, please elaborate.
alacat
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alacat
btw the artist should be ばんし ?





Official Twitter : https://twitter.com/banbanshi

http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/37/28/040030372877_popup2.html
https://twitter.com/nizi_ringo/status/677504996854788096
https://soundcloud.com/ginkiha/c89_nizi-ringo-nenuit-xfd-demo
Luel Roseline
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Luel Roseline
ala hype
IamKwaN
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IamKwaN
that bandcamp page only states Banshi though
alacat
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alacat
Why only take the metadata from that page? The artist name is ばんし/Banshi from circle website and these images. p/6032064


http://banbanshi.web.fc2.com/new1.html
Nozhomi
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So as I said to alacat, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/469334 this map used the same source for metadata and no one complained about it, so should be fine.
Still if you think the japanese name of Banshi should be used because more accurate, I won't mind ofc.

Waiting for your final word.
IamKwaN
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IamKwaN
It's because whenever there's an official page showing only Banshi, then I'm fine with that.

I leave the decision to you too, alacat.
alacat
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alacat
I know that is official page. But if we use "Banshi/Banshi" on the artist field, it will be ignored CD cover and original name. I couldn't confirm "Banshi/Banshi" on other sites (Circle and Artist website). p/6032064
So we have to change to ばんし/Banshi for artist in my opinion.
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi
And fixed :3
alacat
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alacat
ok~
Ora
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Ora
gr8 set noz ^^
tit
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tit
Looks good, keep going.
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