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I've been gathering some opinions regarding the timing signature and concluded that the current one is fine so
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[Baroque]
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- 00:05:366 - 00:14:700 - 00:24:033 - 00:33:366 - Use the same hitsounding on all of these places? The rhythms are pretty much same tho.
- 00:06:700 - 00:16:033 - 00:25:366 - 00:34:700 - Same as above.
- 00:00:033 - 00:09:366 - 00:28:033 - Same as above.
- 00:07:366 - Remove whistle? You didn't have one on 00:16:700 - 00:26:033 - 00:35:366 which has a similar rhythm.
- 00:16:033 (1) - 00:34:700 (1) - Remove NC. You didn't put one on 00:06:700 (3) - 00:25:366
- 00:20:033 - 00:29:366 - Use whistle instead, like what you did on 00:01:366 - 00:10:700 .
- 00:21:366 - 00:30:700 - Should be a finish instead according to 00:02:700 - 00:12:033 .
- 00:22:700 - 00:32:033 - Similar as above, use a whistle instead of finish here cuz you did it on 00:04:033 - 00:13:366 .
- 00:26:033 - Remove finish.
- 00:26:700 (1) - Remove NC since you didn't put one on 00:08:033 - 00:36:033 .
- 00:28:033 - Was expecting this to be a 1/1 slider like what you did on 00:09:366 (1) . I suggest Ctrl+G'ing on 00:27:366 (2,1) so that strong sound there will be clickable, don't forget to recheck your NC and hitsounds if you apply this.
- 00:29:366 (1,3) - Swap NC. If you apply the rhythm suggestion above then please put NC on 00:28:033 too.
- 00:32:033 (1,3) - Swap NC as well.
- 00:33:033 (2) - Removing this circle makes the rhythm less dense, you didn't map this on 00:05:033 - 00:14:366 - 00:23:700 either.
- 00:36:033 - Remove finish according to 00:08:033 - 00:26:700 .
[Baroque]
- 00:02:700 (1,2) - Continuation from before, you said there's no audible beat. Actually there is, you just didn't happen to use a 1/1 slider on 00:02:700 (1) like what you did with 00:12:033 (1) - 00:21:366 (1) - 00:30:700 (1) . I suggest use the same rhythm from those places instead of 00:02:700 (1,2) and there's no need to map 00:03:866 either since you didn't map anything on 00:13:200 - 00:22:533 - 00:31:866 .
- 00:34:700 (4) - Kinda curious why you used a different hitsounding from 00:06:700 (4) - 00:16:033 (4) - 00:25:366 (4) .
Topic Starter
Electoz wrote:
I've been gathering some opinions regarding the timing signature and concluded that the current one is fine so
[Normal]Note that every suggestions above are based on consistency, I strongly recommend fixing them, after you apply hitsounds suggestions make sure you apply them on all diffs.
- 00:05:366 - 00:14:700 - 00:24:033 - 00:33:366 - Use the same hitsounding on all of these places? The rhythms are pretty much same tho.
- 00:06:700 - 00:16:033 - 00:25:366 - 00:34:700 - Same as above. fixed~
- 00:00:033 - 00:09:366 - 00:28:033 - Same as above. It was already consistent for me?
- 00:07:366 - Remove whistle? You didn't have one on 00:16:700 - 00:26:033 - 00:35:366 which has a similar rhythm. I added one, imo it sounds better in these places for emphasis.
- 00:16:033 (1) - 00:34:700 (1) - Remove NC. You didn't put one on 00:06:700 (3) - 00:25:366 yep found some inconsistency on the normal and changed accordingly (pls give award for worst combo+hitsounder 2016)
- 00:20:033 - 00:29:366 - Use whistle instead, like what you did on 00:01:366 - 00:10:700 . alright changed
- 00:21:366 - 00:30:700 - Should be a finish instead according to 00:02:700 - 00:12:033 .
- 00:22:700 - 00:32:033 - Similar as above, use a whistle instead of finish here cuz you did it on 00:04:033 - 00:13:366 .
- 00:26:033 - Remove finish. it was whistle for me but I removed it
- 00:26:700 (1) - Remove NC since you didn't put one on 00:08:033 - 00:36:033 . okay I removed this nc
- 00:28:033 - Was expecting this to be a 1/1 slider like what you did on 00:09:366 (1) . I suggest Ctrl+G'ing on 00:27:366 (2,1) so that strong sound there will be clickable, don't forget to recheck your NC and hitsounds if you apply this. oh nice find, it works much better now!
- 00:29:366 (1,3) - Swap NC. If you apply the rhythm suggestion above then please put NC on 00:28:033 too.
- 00:32:033 (1,3) - Swap NC as well. fixed both of your NC suggestions
- 00:33:033 (2) - Removing this circle makes the rhythm less dense, you didn't map this on 00:05:033 - 00:14:366 - 00:23:700 either. yea you're right here, I removed it (:
- 00:36:033 - Remove finish according to 00:08:033 - 00:26:700 .
[Baroque]Once you're done fixing all these feel free to call me for a bubble.
- 00:02:700 (1,2) - Continuation from before, you said there's no audible beat. Actually there is, you just didn't happen to use a 1/1 slider on 00:02:700 (1) like what you did with 00:12:033 (1) - 00:21:366 (1) - 00:30:700 (1) . I suggest use the same rhythm from those places instead of 00:02:700 (1,2) and there's no need to map 00:03:866 either since you didn't map anything on 00:13:200 - 00:22:533 - 00:31:866 . I made it 1/1 but I also kept the first instance of mapping a part from 00:03:866 since there is a clear beat in the song I also added a note to 00:22:533 for diff consistency.
- 00:34:700 (4) - Kinda curious why you used a different hitsounding from 00:06:700 (4) - 00:16:033 (4) - 00:25:366 (4) . should be fine since the hitsound mod above from you (:
Thanks such a helpful mod with my hitsounds!D
Fixed a few more hitsounds inconsistencies and NCs.
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08:02 Electoz: 00:26:033 - Add whistle cuz there's one on 00:07:366 - 00:16:700 - 00:35:366 -
08:03 Electoz: 00:34:700 (1) - Remove NC
08:03 Electoz: 00:16:033 (3) - 00:06:700 (3) - Because there's no NC here either
08:03 -Space-: Is the remove NC for easy and normal?
08:03 Electoz: I mentioned 2 of them in a mod earlier but you only removed one of them
08:03 Electoz: oh right sry
08:03 Electoz: NC is
08:03 Electoz: in Normal only
08:04 Electoz: since you have a different pattern from Easy
08:04 -Space-: im an idiot thats why lmao
08:04 -Space-: okay I got rid of that nc
08:05 Electoz: 00:28:033 - Finish instead
08:05 Electoz: 00:29:366 - And this one is supposed to be a whistle, not finish
08:05 -Space-: okay
08:06 Electoz: In a mod, I suggested this:
08:06 Electoz: "00:26:700 (1) - Remove NC since you didn't put one on 00:08:033 - 00:36:033 ."
08:06 Electoz: and after mod you did everything on this backwards lol
08:07 -Space-: It is removed? z.z
08:07 Electoz: 00:26:700 (5) - This one is removed
08:07 -Space-: yeah
08:07 -Space-: 00:08:033 (1) -
08:07 -Space-: oh
08:07 Electoz: 00:08:033 (1) - 00:36:033 (1) - But if you removed, then you you're adding them on these places???
08:07 -Space-: lmfao
08:07 Electoz: ??????
08:07 -Space-: idek how that happened send help pls
08:07 Electoz: ok enough memes
08:08 -Space-: 00:36:033 (5) - Shouldn't this one stay?
08:08 -Space-: oh
08:08 -Space-: wrong one nvm
08:08 -Space-: im baka
08:08 Electoz: wew
08:08 Electoz: ok so
08:08 -Space-: i forgot about smth when I said that just ignore me i am dense
08:09 *Electoz is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1047267 Igorrr - Dentist [Baroque]]
08:09 Electoz: 00:34:700 (4) - About this thing
08:09 *-Space- logs offline
08:09 Electoz: the kicks still have different hitsounds than others
08:09 -Space-: rly?
08:09 Electoz: idk why you used soft sampleset on the kicks tho
08:09 -Space-: forgot to change sampleset from before
08:09 -Space-: bcs I had a clap thing for this before
08:10 -Space-: I also fixed spacing
08:11 Electoz: oh lol I didn't notice
08:11 Electoz: alright update it one more time and I'll see
08:12 -Space-: ok i updated
Yo hello I'm supposed to be playing against you in AST so I thought I'd try to mod your map you know. Maybe we could do a dumb collab we can use as warmup for our match sometime.
Anyways I'd suggest adding Gautier Serre to the tags since thats Igorrr's real name. I'd complain that you didn't add 'baroquecore' but baroquecore music is basically just a genre name for Igorrr music. Personally I'd also copy the tags from grumd's mapset too.
In all diffs I'd suggest shortening the spinner so it ends at 00:39:366 - since the 'ding' noise has completely ended at that point, otherwise this set absolutely deserves the bubble.
it's fine if you don't accept the spinner thing, I hope the tag suggestions were at least a little bit useful :T
Anyways I'd suggest adding Gautier Serre to the tags since thats Igorrr's real name. I'd complain that you didn't add 'baroquecore' but baroquecore music is basically just a genre name for Igorrr music. Personally I'd also copy the tags from grumd's mapset too.
In all diffs I'd suggest shortening the spinner so it ends at 00:39:366 - since the 'ding' noise has completely ended at that point, otherwise this set absolutely deserves the bubble.
it's fine if you don't accept the spinner thing, I hope the tag suggestions were at least a little bit useful :T
Topic Starter
I used to have the tag Baroque there, but since it's the custom name for the highest difficulty (as per from the rule page of one custom name) I removed it. grumd's tags aren't really necessary since they're only about independent parts of the song rather than a genre, I think they're fine but if anyone else wants to suggestion something similar I will consider it. I will also check the spinner later today.Joezapy wrote:
Yo hello I'm supposed to be playing against you in AST so I thought I'd try to mod your map you know. Maybe we could do a dumb collab we can use as warmup for our match sometime.
Anyways I'd suggest adding Gautier Serre to the tags since thats Igorrr's real name. I'd complain that you didn't add 'baroquecore' but baroquecore music is basically just a genre name for Igorrr music. Personally I'd also copy the tags from grumd's mapset too.
In all diffs I'd suggest shortening the spinner so it ends at 00:39:366 - since the 'ding' noise has completely ended at that point, otherwise this set absolutely deserves the bubble.
it's fine if you don't accept the spinner thing, I hope the tag suggestions were at least a little bit useful :T
EDIT: Spinner length is fine imo
Hello there!
General:
I've decided to pop bubble here because of quality lack in hitsounding, normal set all the way in not really suitable here, the song is really calm and you should consider changing you hs model to fit this. As solution I can advice you to try soft set optional with soft whistles, lowering overall volume level. You can additionally consider about emphasizing other song layers like snare sounds. Poke me if you need any further clarification on this.
General:
I've decided to pop bubble here because of quality lack in hitsounding, normal set all the way in not really suitable here, the song is really calm and you should consider changing you hs model to fit this. As solution I can advice you to try soft set optional with soft whistles, lowering overall volume level. You can additionally consider about emphasizing other song layers like snare sounds. Poke me if you need any further clarification on this.
Few more additional things to Sieg's mod.
Normal
00:36:033 (5) - NC this one wouldn't hurt.
Baroque
Comparing spacings in those patterns:
00:06:033 (2,3,4,5,6) - / 00:24:700 (2,3,4,5,6) - / 00:34:033 (2,3,4,5,6) - you can notice that those is kinda strong 00:06:533 - / 00:15:866 - / 00:25:200 - / 00:34:533 - but spacing emphasize here isnt't really good 00:34:533 - / 00:25:200 - . You must increase the spacing for the sake of emphasizing.
owo good luck~!
Normal
00:36:033 (5) - NC this one wouldn't hurt.
Baroque
Comparing spacings in those patterns:
00:06:033 (2,3,4,5,6) - / 00:24:700 (2,3,4,5,6) - / 00:34:033 (2,3,4,5,6) - you can notice that those is kinda strong 00:06:533 - / 00:15:866 - / 00:25:200 - / 00:34:533 - but spacing emphasize here isnt't really good 00:34:533 - / 00:25:200 - . You must increase the spacing for the sake of emphasizing.
owo good luck~!
Also something is wrong with time signatures I think. 00:05:366 - soemthing is happening here that shifts things around.
In the beginning, the measure is timed right but here 00:09:366 - it's mapped on 2/4 which means that somewhere there are signature changes.
My guess is that there is a 6/4 section here : 00:05:366 -. 00:14:700 -. 00:24:033 - 00:33:366 - Here too. Each of these sections is only 1 measure long, rest is 4/4.
Gl
In the beginning, the measure is timed right but here 00:09:366 - it's mapped on 2/4 which means that somewhere there are signature changes.
My guess is that there is a 6/4 section here : 00:05:366 -. 00:14:700 -. 00:24:033 - 00:33:366 - Here too. Each of these sections is only 1 measure long, rest is 4/4.
Gl
Topic Starter
Yeah, some examples would be nice if you check above I spent about 2-3 hours literally handwriting hitsound combos for this to find the best set, then spent about an hour or two going through IRC to get the bubble confirm for the hitsounds, pm me in game.Sieg wrote:
Hello there!
General:
I've decided to pop bubble here because of quality lack in hitsounding, normal set all the way in not really suitable here, the song is really calm and you should consider changing you hs model to fit this. As solution I can advice you to try soft set optional with soft whistles, lowering overall volume level. You can additionally consider about emphasizing other song layers like snare sounds. Poke me if you need any further clarification on this.
I also prefer normal hitsound, tested it in default skin too, soft whistle is depressing hit of cymbal sound and I don't like it. I like the player to feel awarded with a solid sounding beat when playing.
EDIT: Added Namki's NC but I think spacing is alright for the 1/8 parts.
Timing signatures were talked about previously and concluded they were alright as current state stands, I don't understand your first suggestion though BOUYAAA.
Thanks for checking though (:
I see, I rechecked and still entirely disagree on such strong emphasis as normal set with current volume level, as general example you can take a look on other Igorrr's music in ranked section or ask me ingame if you have specific questions.
Tho I respect if you don't want to change\get more opinions on this :3 In that case you should ask Electoz for bubble repair. Sorry for the inconveniences.
Tho I respect if you don't want to change\get more opinions on this :3 In that case you should ask Electoz for bubble repair. Sorry for the inconveniences.
Topic Starter
I like normal hitsounds due to personal preference, and it's true people will have opinions on how a map sounds. I reduced hitsound volume a little bit to stray from any emphasis that may have drowned out how the music was meant to be gentle.Sieg wrote:
I see, I rechecked and still entirely disagree on such strong emphasis as normal set with current volume level, as general example you can take a look on other Igorrr's music in ranked section or ask me ingame if you have specific questions.
Tho I respect if you don't want to change\get more opinions on this :3 In that case you should ask Electoz for bubble repair. Sorry for the inconveniences.
I'll call for a rebub :3
Actually I forgot to rebub this lol sry for that, also I don't mind the bubble pop thingy in general since we can take more time to discuss for the best quality for the mapset.
Rebubbled!
Rebubbled!
Topic Starter
np we're all busy in our own ways! Thanks for the rebub ! ^^
Hitsounds
The hitsounds are just noisy... https://osu.ppy.sh/b/171917 have you checked this map? They sound so much more fitting for this song. Maybe get some inspiration from them.
Spinner end should have a soft hitsound.
Easy
00:02:700 (1,2) - Try making a cute blanket pattern here? Up to you tho http://puu.sh/vFJ60/6a2e22304b.jpg
00:34:700 (1) - You could use some edged slider here to make it feel more authentic with the song.
00:16:033 (1) - Same as above
00:21:366 (1,2,1) - I feel like these sliders aren't complimenting each other, they just don't go that well together.. Hard to suggest something, anything would be better imo XD
Normal
Nothing, but you could adjust some sliders to fit the song better like I suggested in Easy.
Baroque
00:20:922 (2) - How about making this slider straight so it compliments 00:21:366 (1) - better?
call me
The hitsounds are just noisy... https://osu.ppy.sh/b/171917 have you checked this map? They sound so much more fitting for this song. Maybe get some inspiration from them.
Spinner end should have a soft hitsound.
Easy
00:02:700 (1,2) - Try making a cute blanket pattern here? Up to you tho http://puu.sh/vFJ60/6a2e22304b.jpg
00:34:700 (1) - You could use some edged slider here to make it feel more authentic with the song.
00:16:033 (1) - Same as above
00:21:366 (1,2,1) - I feel like these sliders aren't complimenting each other, they just don't go that well together.. Hard to suggest something, anything would be better imo XD
Normal
Nothing, but you could adjust some sliders to fit the song better like I suggested in Easy.
Baroque
00:20:922 (2) - How about making this slider straight so it compliments 00:21:366 (1) - better?
call me
Topic Starter
Irreversible wrote:
Hitsounds
The hitsounds are just noisy... https://osu.ppy.sh/b/171917 have you checked this map? They sound so much more fitting for this song. Maybe get some inspiration from them.
Spinner end should have a soft hitsound. Decided to silence the sliderslide as I feel it is very invasive from reflecting over this map in the coming months. I agree also about the hitsounds, even after my audio decrease they're a bit loud. A soft sampleset should work fine throughout.
Easy
00:02:700 (1,2) - Try making a cute blanket pattern here? Up to you tho http://puu.sh/vFJ60/6a2e22304b.jpg My objective here was to go for a parallel slider on the straight parts of each, also I believe the flow of the sliders in relation to the upcoming note work well in that the cursor follows a circular motion throughout.
00:34:700 (1) - You could use some edged slider here to make it feel more authentic with the song. Roger that
00:16:033 (1) - Same as above Added red anchor for a mildly sharp curve that makes more objective sense to my map style ^^
00:21:366 (1,2,1) - I feel like these sliders aren't complimenting each other, they just don't go that well together.. Hard to suggest something, anything would be better imo XD how about a nice old copypaste?works well with 00:02:700 (1,2) imo
Normal
Nothing, but you could adjust some sliders to fit the song better like I suggested in Easy. I think I got parts where sliders could work wit
the music better I made some changes at these points: 00:14:700 (1,2,3) and 00:33:366 (1,2,3)
Baroque
00:20:922 (2) - How about making this slider straight so it compliments 00:21:366 (1) - better? Yeah, probably for the best.
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Congratz!
Gratz!!
gratz
Topic Starter
thank you and also thank you for the bubble from before ^^
Gratzz! :3
Took 7 long months to switch from normal set. (:
congratz
congratz
Topic Starter
I'm just naturally stubborn, but I still love you owoSieg wrote:
Took 7 long months to switch from normal set. (:
congratz
and thanks for making me realise (slowly) xD
congrats!