HXJ da MVP at it again
2017-01-25 17:14 HXJ_Crafter: baka-sheep chan?
2017-01-25 17:14 Protastic101: Yeah?
2017-01-25 17:14 HXJ_Crafter: Could u please help me improve my hitsound?
2017-01-25 17:14 Protastic101: which map?
2017-01-25 17:14 HXJ_Crafter: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 17:15 HXJ_Crafter: w
2017-01-25 17:16 HXJ_Crafter: old chart before dadada
2017-01-25 17:16 Protastic101: oh that
2017-01-25 17:16 Protastic101: Actually just played it last night lol
2017-01-25 17:16 Protastic101: those LNs in GRAXITY make me cry :^D
2017-01-25 17:17 HXJ_Crafter: :'3
2017-01-25 17:17 Protastic101: So what up with the hs?
2017-01-25 17:18 Protastic101: btw, that soft-hitnormal is way too quiet
2017-01-25 17:18 HXJ_Crafter: Idk
2017-01-25 17:18 HXJ_Crafter: Maybe bad
2017-01-25 17:18 Protastic101: Additionally, 25% hs vol is too quiet to hear anything with the music
2017-01-25 17:18 HXJ_Crafter: soft-hitnormal is "no sound" I think
2017-01-25 17:19 Protastic101: Soft-hitnormal plays a small hihat, so there is sound, it's just damn near impossible to hear it
2017-01-25 17:19 HXJ_Crafter: lol
2017-01-25 17:20 HXJ_Crafter: yes small
2017-01-25 17:21 Protastic101: Ok, I gotchu fam
2017-01-25 17:21 HXJ_Crafter: I turn on my video to 100%
2017-01-25 17:21 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tAawJ.wav try using this as the soft-hitnormal
2017-01-25 17:21 HXJ_Crafter: then I heard that sound
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: Also, set your hitsound volume to 40%
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: 40% at the minimum I mean
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: I might consider using 50%, but the rest of your samples aside from the hitnormal are pretty loud
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: also, whoosh whoosh bang bang sfx makes me sad D:
2017-01-25 17:23 HXJ_Crafter: wait me a while
2017-01-25 17:23 HXJ_Crafter: thx
2017-01-25 17:24 HXJ_Crafter: OK
2017-01-25 17:24 HXJ_Crafter: (i cannot change that just now so I restart)
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: ah rip lol
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: So anyways, change vol settings to 40%, and replace the soft-hitnormal with the once I sent you
2017-01-25 17:26 HXJ_Crafter: OK
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: Additionally, I have to tell you about double hitsounds and why you're making me cry
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: give me a sec first tho
2017-01-25 17:27 HXJ_Crafter: don
2017-01-25 17:27 HXJ_Crafter: sounds great!
2017-01-25 17:28 Protastic101: Ok!
2017-01-25 17:28 Protastic101: So you know how to show sample name and all that jazz right?
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: wait a moment
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: not
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: My English is poor
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: qwq
2017-01-25 17:30 HXJ_Crafter: simply OK
2017-01-25 17:30 Protastic101: ahh, sorry D:
2017-01-25 17:31 HXJ_Crafter: yareyare, it's very kind of u
2017-01-25 17:31 HXJ_Crafter: with hug
2017-01-25 17:31 Protastic101: 00:13:584 (13584|3,13584|0) - Ah ok, so first thing. When you're hitsounding using the editor's whistles, claps, and finishes (this stuff http://puu.sh/tAbgQ.jpg ), you only want to apply the sample once
2017-01-25 17:31 Protastic101: The two notes above use two whistles, one finish, and two claps, which is Q_Q
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: Btw, I'm in GRAXITY if you didn't know lol
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: I didn't make that clear, my bad
2017-01-25 17:32 HXJ_Crafter: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 17:32 HXJ_Crafter: I always know
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: oki then
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: So yeah, multiple copies of the same hitsound at the same place like this http://puu.sh/tAbmY.jpg are bad and should only be used when sample importing
2017-01-25 17:34 HXJ_Crafter: I'm not able to connect puu.sh too fast
2017-01-25 17:34 HXJ_Crafter: OK I see
2017-01-25 17:34 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tAbpk.jpg What you want to do is this instead, where one note = one hitsound (where applicable). Otherwise, you can put multiple hitsounds on the same note if you don't have a super large chord, like this http://puu.sh/tAbtV.jpg
2017-01-25 17:34 Protastic101: Oh, oops
2017-01-25 17:34 Protastic101: I'll use osu to upload ss then
2017-01-25 17:34 HXJ_Crafter: thanks
2017-01-25 17:35 Protastic101: But you get my point about the double hitsounds right?
2017-01-25 17:35 HXJ_Crafter: yes
2017-01-25 17:35 HXJ_Crafter: apple told me long time ago
2017-01-25 17:35 HXJ_Crafter: -[Apple]-
2017-01-25 17:35 Protastic101: 00:13:893 (13893|3,13893|2) - like this is not ok because you have two whistles at the same place. Instead, you should remove one whistle so it's one hitsound for every note
2017-01-25 17:35 Protastic101: Apple, cool guy
2017-01-25 17:36 HXJ_Crafter: wait a moment
2017-01-25 17:36 HXJ_Crafter: Can I use louder Clap here/
2017-01-25 17:36 HXJ_Crafter: ?
2017-01-25 17:36 Protastic101: The reason why you don't do that though, is because hitsounds are additive. Meaning if the hitsound volume is 40% and you put two of the same hitsounds, the volume plays at 80% instead cause 40 + 40 = 80% volume
2017-01-25 17:37 HXJ_Crafter: I know
2017-01-25 17:37 Protastic101: Eh? I wouldn't add a clap there
2017-01-25 17:37 HXJ_Crafter: 00:13:584 -
2017-01-25 17:37 Protastic101: Ah
2017-01-25 17:38 Protastic101: Tbh, since this is no fx version, I wouldn't use the whoosh whoosh sample at all, but it does work I guess, so that's ok
2017-01-25 17:38 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 17:39 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 17:39 Protastic101: 00:13:893 (13893|3,13893|2) - 00:14:202 (14202|0,14202|1) - 00:14:511 (14511|1,14511|2) - 00:14:821 (14821|0,14821|3) - 00:15:130 (15130|3,15130|1) - 00:15:439 (15439|0,15439|2) - and etc. So yeah, double hitsounds, just remove one from every spot
2017-01-25 17:39 HXJ_Crafter: Yes I did
2017-01-25 17:40 Protastic101: 00:28:429 (28429|3,28429|0) - got them here too?
2017-01-25 17:41 HXJ_Crafter: yes
2017-01-25 17:41 Protastic101: Then I guess there's nothing else for me to do. Just fix all the double hitsounds and they're good to go
2017-01-25 17:41 HXJ_Crafter: 00:31:135 -
2017-01-25 17:41 Protastic101: Do you have the other difficulties hitsounded, or do you need help copying over any hitsounds?
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: Can I use 80%?
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: oh
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: All hitsound copies from Eedow's 14
2017-01-25 17:42 Protastic101: I wouldn't use 80%
2017-01-25 17:42 Protastic101: Keep your hitsounds consistent. Double hitsounds shouldn't ever really be used
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: follow the beginner, 60 maybe OK
2017-01-25 17:43 HXJ_Crafter: thx baka sheep chan
2017-01-25 17:43 Protastic101: You could change the volume of the beginning though, to be like 30% since it's not to quiet, from 00:01:212 - to 00:13:506 -
2017-01-25 17:44 Protastic101: Btw, when copying over hitsounds from whichever diff serves as the original hitsounded one, make sure you clear the hitsounds from the other diffs first so that it copies over cleanly
2017-01-25 17:44 HXJ_Crafter: That's a big deal
2017-01-25 17:45 HXJ_Crafter: OK
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: So yeah. You got time to go over the chart too? I kind of want to talk about the difficulty differences between GRAXITY and INFINIXE
2017-01-25 17:46 HXJ_Crafter: Breakfast
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: Ah ok
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: Well poke me whenever and we can go over the chart via irc
2017-01-25 17:46 HXJ_Crafter: i‘ll finish it quickly
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: I'm too lazy to make a forum post
2017-01-25 17:46 HXJ_Crafter: :3
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: take your time lol
2017-01-25 17:47 HXJ_Crafter: i love dumplings
2017-01-25 17:47 Protastic101: share me dumplings D:
2017-01-25 17:52 HXJ_Crafter: OK I'm OK
2017-01-25 17:53 Protastic101: where my dumplings at D:<
2017-01-25 17:53 HXJ_Crafter: oh
2017-01-25 17:53 HXJ_Crafter: pity that dumplings only made in China
2017-01-25 17:53 HXJ_Crafter: I'll finish my hs
2017-01-25 17:54 Protastic101: Oki, just poke me whenever you wanna mod
2017-01-25 18:12 HXJ_Crafter: fixed
2017-01-25 18:12 Protastic101: Ok, ready for mod?
2017-01-25 18:13 HXJ_Crafter: eyah
2017-01-25 18:13 HXJ_Crafter: yeah*
2017-01-25 18:13 HXJ_Crafter: The other diffs needs to check, but I don't have enough time lol
2017-01-25 18:14 HXJ_Crafter: need*
2017-01-25 18:15 Protastic101: rip lol
2017-01-25 18:15 Protastic101: ahh, why do I keep flipping your name and typing JXH instead of HXJ lmao XD
2017-01-25 18:15 HXJ_Crafter: almost fixed the two hitsound
2017-01-25 18:15 HXJ_Crafter: lol
2017-01-25 18:15 HXJ_Crafter: JXH
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101:
2017-01-25 18:16 HXJ_Crafter: retfarc_JXH
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: lmao
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: perf name 10/10
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: anyways
2017-01-25 18:16 HXJ_Crafter: I just update
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: I wanna just address the fact that I feel like Eedow's diff is denser and harder in terms of patterns
2017-01-25 18:16 HXJ_Crafter: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 18:17 Protastic101: yeah, I just updated
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: only two notes still have problems
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: I've fixed after updating
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: then start
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: 16||14
2017-01-25 18:18 HXJ_Crafter: rip
2017-01-25 18:18 Protastic101: Well anyways, imo, eedow's diff is denser than yours since it uses more handstreams if I recall correctly from when I testplayed it last night. But ah well
2017-01-25 18:18 Protastic101: I guess it's ok? Idk
2017-01-25 18:19 Protastic101: 00:13:893 (13893|3,13893|2,14047|2) - btw, just a tip, you wanna try and avoid LNs + short notes on the same hand like this. Moving 00:14:047 (14047|2) - to 1 and moving 00:14:202 (14202|0) - to 3 would work better imo
2017-01-25 18:19 HXJ_Crafter: you see Ee's diff focus on notes
2017-01-25 18:20 HXJ_Crafter: I have ever tried
2017-01-25 18:20 HXJ_Crafter: but the pattern will be even awful
2017-01-25 18:20 HXJ_Crafter: lol, the number of patterns like this is not so big
2017-01-25 18:21 HXJ_Crafter: many*
2017-01-25 18:21 Protastic101: Yeah, anyways, that was my only real concern
2017-01-25 18:21 Protastic101: Well, trans diff wise
2017-01-25 18:22 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 18:22 Protastic101: 00:18:377 (18377|1,18377|0,18377|3,18532|0,18532|1,18532|3) - These notes are the same kick sound as 00:17:913 (17913|0,17913|2) - or 00:17:295 (17295|3,17295|1) - for example, yet they're triples. Unlike 00:17:604 (17604|3,17604|2,17604|0) - which are snares, there isn't added emphasis to those triples, so I'd consider just making them doubles instead
2017-01-25 18:24 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7151997
2017-01-25 18:24 Protastic101: Yeah, that works
2017-01-25 18:27 Protastic101: 00:22:553 (22553|2) - I would end this LN at 00:22:785 - since the pitch changes there, and add a double also, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152015
2017-01-25 18:28 HXJ_Crafter: i think I'll delete this lN
2017-01-25 18:29 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-25 18:29 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152027
2017-01-25 18:29 Protastic101: 00:26:419 (26419|3) - I would move this to 1 to avoid a complete disconnection from the stream, which feels a bit awkward to play compared to the linear flows you've already set up for the player
2017-01-25 18:30 Protastic101: 10/10
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: I've changed
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: but I forget to update
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: :3
2017-01-25 18:30 Protastic101: Ah rip lol
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: I remember it's kjk originally right?
2017-01-25 18:31 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152030
2017-01-25 18:31 Protastic101: 00:28:429 - Dunno why you stopped the 1/4 stream here. This is where the music starts building up and gets intense. Try this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152035
2017-01-25 18:31 Protastic101: And yeah, it was kjk originally
2017-01-25 18:32 HXJ_Crafter: oh...
2017-01-25 18:32 HXJ_Crafter: that maybe too hard
2017-01-25 18:32 HXJ_Crafter: cus it is still beginning of the part
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: 00:29:666 - Similar to the above for this. I'd reduce the triples to doubles and do something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152045
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: Ah well
2017-01-25 18:33 HXJ_Crafter: 00:28:429 - 00:33:377 -
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: I personally think it would be better to keep mapping the 1/4 stream, but whatever you choose
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: I mean, it is the last diff, so it'd make sense to be pretty hard for a build up part
2017-01-25 18:34 HXJ_Crafter: I don't want everyone to miss a lot at the beginning
2017-01-25 18:34 HXJ_Crafter: 00:32:140 - this is kinda difficult to catch
2017-01-25 18:35 HXJ_Crafter: so I keep
2017-01-25 18:35 Protastic101: Ah, oki
2017-01-25 18:37 Protastic101: 00:38:017 (38017|1,38171|1,38326|1,38480|1) - Most of your stacks at this point have only been two notes long. Might try this to keep consistent with that pattern http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152061
2017-01-25 18:38 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 18:40 Protastic101: 00:40:336 (40336|1) - Move this to 3, 00:40:491 (40491|1) - move to 1, and add a note in 2 at 00:40:413 - , then move 00:40:645 (40645|0) - to 2, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152078
2017-01-25 18:40 Protastic101: it's for the 3/4 piano there
2017-01-25 18:41 HXJ_Crafter: piano?
2017-01-25 18:41 Protastic101: The delay
2017-01-25 18:41 Protastic101: You know, the piano note that comes in at 00:38:326 - 00:38:944 - 00:39:254 - 00:39:563 - for example
2017-01-25 18:41 HXJ_Crafter: sure
2017-01-25 18:42 HXJ_Crafter: wow
2017-01-25 18:42 HXJ_Crafter: Do have a sound
2017-01-25 18:43 HXJ_Crafter: cool
2017-01-25 18:43 Protastic101: 00:42:578 - 00:43:197 - This may be a stupid idea to you, but to avoid that 1 note jack, you could just jack both the jumps which I think is easier since it doesn't require as much coordination between hands, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152104
2017-01-25 18:44 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152115
2017-01-25 18:44 HXJ_Crafter: what about this
2017-01-25 18:45 Protastic101: Eh, I'd say keep your original in that case
2017-01-25 18:45 HXJ_Crafter: 00:43:197 - I really don't like df df
2017-01-25 18:45 HXJ_Crafter: sure
2017-01-25 18:45 Protastic101: Yeah, I got you. Use your original pattern
2017-01-25 18:46 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 18:46 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152126
2017-01-25 18:46 HXJ_Crafter: right?
2017-01-25 18:46 00:50:697 (50697|0,50774|1,50852|1,50929|0) - 00:51:084 (51084|2,51161|3,51238|2,51315|2,51393|3,51470|2) - *sobbing*
2017-01-25 18:46 Protastic101: Yeah, that works
2017-01-25 18:47 Protastic101: Dude, those jacks kind of just come out of nowhere
2017-01-25 18:47 Protastic101: In addition, they create one handed trills that are uncomfortable to hit and time on both hands
2017-01-25 18:48 HXJ_Crafter: Oh
2017-01-25 18:48 Protastic101: I mean, it's a good idea, but playing wise, it's an ass to hit
2017-01-25 18:49 HXJ_Crafter: I don't think it's too difficult?
2017-01-25 18:51 HXJ_Crafter: owo, I hardly ever miss it
2017-01-25 18:51 HXJ_Crafter: after all it's the ending of this part
2017-01-25 18:51 Protastic101: Idk fam, I just feel like the timing of it is really difficult cause there's no emphasis in the music for jacks to be there
2017-01-25 18:52 Protastic101: I argued that same point earlier and got rejected DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-01-25 18:52 HXJ_Crafter: lol
2017-01-25 18:53 HXJ_Crafter: 00:50:852 (50852|1,50929|0,50929|2,50929|3,51006|1,51084|2,51161|1,51161|3,51161|0,51238|2) -
2017-01-25 18:53 Protastic101: Ah well
2017-01-25 18:53 HXJ_Crafter: It's OK if i ctrl+H, but I don't like qwq
2017-01-25 18:54 Protastic101: keep it if you want, I won't absolutely force anything on you
2017-01-25 18:54 Protastic101: 00:57:346 - 00:57:424 - would consider adding notes in 1 and 4 respectively though, since there's a muted kick here like at 00:57:037 (57037|2,57037|3,57114|0,57114|1) -
2017-01-25 18:54 HXJ_Crafter: Oki
2017-01-25 18:54 HXJ_Crafter: marked
2017-01-25 18:54 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 18:57 Protastic101: 00:57:501 (57501|0) - Also, I would probably remove this LN since you haven't mapped the synth at all in this section yet. To add, there's a muted kick at 00:57:578 - too, so removing the LN would make it work out better I guess
2017-01-25 18:58 Protastic101: 00:59:047 (59047|2,59202|1) - These LNs are smooth and flow into each other, so I think it's better to make them 1/2 long and connect them rather than 1/4 long
2017-01-25 18:59 Protastic101: 01:00:130 - The notes become a little difficult to follow now since you're ignoring a lot of the melody synths and using short 1/4 LNs for fairly connected sounds
2017-01-25 19:00 Protastic101: I'd consider adding a 1/2 LN at 01:00:130 - and making 01:00:285 (60285|1,60439|2) - single notes
2017-01-25 19:00 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152180
2017-01-25 19:00 Protastic101: 01:00:903 (60903|2) - There's no synth here on the downbeat; rather, it starts at 01:00:826 -
2017-01-25 19:00 HXJ_Crafter: damn
2017-01-25 19:01 Protastic101: Yeah, that screenshot works I guess
2017-01-25 19:02 Protastic101: Idk, the entire way you structured this transition is incredibly difficult to follow since you didn't actually follow the music and just kind of went off and did your own thing
2017-01-25 19:02 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152188
2017-01-25 19:02 HXJ_Crafter: maybe
2017-01-25 19:02 Protastic101: I guess that works too
2017-01-25 19:03 Protastic101: 01:02:063 - there's a note here
2017-01-25 19:04 Protastic101: 01:02:140 (62140|0,62160|1,62179|2) - I don't actually think there's a 1/8 sound. This entire measure feels more like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152195
2017-01-25 19:04 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152198
2017-01-25 19:05 Protastic101: 01:02:411 - well you're missing a note here
2017-01-25 19:05 HXJ_Crafter: oh damn it's 9
2017-01-25 19:06 HXJ_Crafter: how can I add a note here?
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: going to visit my grandpa.
2017-01-25 19:07 Protastic101: Ah ok
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: after it
2017-01-25 19:07 Protastic101: We can continue later then
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: oh grandma8
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: grandma*
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: my grandpa is rest in peace
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: qwq
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: Oh shit
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: sorry D:
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: that's ok
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: I'll finish the rest in a post actually
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: You don't need
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: timezones probably won't coincide til sunday for me lmao
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: I'll be back 1 hrs
2017-01-25 19:09 HXJ_Crafter: if you're available
2017-01-25 19:09 Protastic101: I'll try
2017-01-25 19:09 Protastic101: bai o/
2017-01-25 19:09 HXJ_Crafter: bb
2017-01-25 19:09 HXJ_Crafter: savelog please :3
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: protato :3
2017-01-25 20:39 Protastic101: o/
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: i just update my osu! here
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: o/
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: i have 20 minutes left
2017-01-25 20:40 Protastic101: alright, chill
2017-01-25 20:40 Protastic101: 01:02:411 - Eh, I'm still pretty sure you're missing a note here lol
2017-01-25 20:41 HXJ_Crafter: I got something f**xing wrong
2017-01-25 20:41 HXJ_Crafter: now ok
2017-01-25 20:42 Protastic101: 01:03:300 (63300|3) - Assuming you're not aiming to make shields here, I'd move this to 3. If you do want to make shields, you could try this instead http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152613
2017-01-25 20:42 HXJ_Crafter: wait me a moment
2017-01-25 20:42 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-25 20:43 HXJ_Crafter: 10:32 HXJ_Crafter: protato :3
2017-01-25 20:43 HXJ_Crafter: 01:02:411 - Eh, I'm still pretty sure you're missing a note here lol
2017-01-25 20:44 HXJ_Crafter: Assuming you're not aiming to make shields here, I'd move this to 3. If you do want to make shields, you could try this instead http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152613
2017-01-25 20:44 HXJ_Crafter: just copy
2017-01-25 20:44 Protastic101: yeah, I got it lol
2017-01-25 20:45 HXJ_Crafter: idk how to add that note
2017-01-25 20:45 Protastic101: It's 1/8
2017-01-25 20:45 HXJ_Crafter: I know, but nowhere to put
2017-01-25 20:46 Protastic101: ohhh
2017-01-25 20:46 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152633 You'll have to reduce the triple to a double
2017-01-25 20:46 Protastic101: but it plays better than if you had an incomplete 1/8 roll
2017-01-25 20:47 HXJ_Crafter: I cannot upload the ss
2017-01-25 20:48 HXJ_Crafter: 01:02:295 (62295|0,62334|1,62372|3,62411|2,62450|3,62450|0,62450|1) -
2017-01-25 20:48 HXJ_Crafter: is this ok?
2017-01-25 20:48 Protastic101: Yeah
2017-01-25 20:48 Protastic101: You get the stuff I mentioned about the shields too?
2017-01-25 20:48 HXJ_Crafter: maybe
2017-01-25 20:49 HXJ_Crafter: 01:03:532 -
2017-01-25 20:49 HXJ_Crafter: maybe col D is empty
2017-01-25 20:49 Protastic101: 01:03:300 (63300|3) - Mentioned moving this to 3 to avoid a shield, or if you wanna shield all the LNs, moving 01:03:532 (63532|2) - to 2, and the LN at 01:03:532 (63532|0) - to 3
2017-01-25 20:49 Protastic101: I'm fine with either way
2017-01-25 20:50 HXJ_Crafter: 0 1 2 3 or 1 2 3 4
2017-01-25 20:50 Protastic101: 01:05:542 (65542|3,65774|3,65774|2) - This is a bit tricky to hit tho, cause you have to shield the LN + shortnote while also pressing a new LN on the same hand
2017-01-25 20:50 Protastic101: 1 2 3 4
2017-01-25 20:50 HXJ_Crafter: oki
2017-01-25 20:50 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 20:51 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152656 this might work for those LNs I mentioned above
2017-01-25 20:52 Protastic101: 01:15:362 (75362|3,75439|1) - Would suggest moving to 2 and 4 respectively since the current pattern feels like a false lead
2017-01-25 20:52 HXJ_Crafter: always now
2017-01-25 20:52 HXJ_Crafter: know
2017-01-25 20:52 Protastic101: ?
2017-01-25 20:53 HXJ_Crafter: i mean done
2017-01-25 20:53 Protastic101: Ah ok lol
2017-01-25 20:53 Protastic101: 01:16:212 (76212|0,76367|2,76522|0) - For this, I would consider control H + shift once to the left like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152669 This way it's more balanced on both hands since the current pattern leans heavily on the left hand
2017-01-25 20:54 HXJ_Crafter: sure
2017-01-25 20:55 Protastic101: 01:25:800 (85800|2,85955|2) - Not sure if you're intentionally using stacks, but if not, I would move 01:25:955 (85955|2) - to 1, 01:26:109 (86109|0) - to 3, and 01:26:264 (86264|2) - to 1 again
2017-01-25 20:55 Protastic101: Feels more balanced that way
2017-01-25 20:55 HXJ_Crafter: *sure
2017-01-25 20:56 Protastic101: 01:37:553 (97553|0,97553|1,97707|0) - I would suggest control J here so that the LN is on the weaker middle finger and the short notes on the stronger index finger for playabilty
2017-01-25 20:56 Protastic101: Not control J, I mean switch
2017-01-25 20:57 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152689 like this
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: I know
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: tho (col 2)
2017-01-25 20:57 Protastic101: That works
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: 01:37:862 (97862|1,97862|2) -
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: I Ctrl+H
2017-01-25 20:58 Protastic101: 01:38:248 (98248|3) - As for this, I know that you really wanna use LNs for the synth, but it's kind of a pain to hit imo, what with 01:38:326 (98326|2,98326|0) - right in the middle of the LN. If you don't remove the note, I'd consider moving 01:38:326 (98326|2) - to 2 instead then, so that you don't need to have two different timings on the same hand
2017-01-25 20:58 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152701 kind of like this
2017-01-25 20:59 Protastic101: 01:40:027 (100027|0) - Similar reasoning to the above, move this to 4 to avoid different timings/releases on the same hand
2017-01-25 21:00 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 21:01 Protastic101: 01:46:831 (106831|0,106986|2,106986|3) - Similar to that last point, short notes in the middle of LNs are meh. Since these are different pitches, you could either shorten 01:46:831 (106831|0) - to end at 01:46:986 - since the pitch changes, and add a note LN at 01:46:986 - , or you can turn 01:46:986 (106986|3) - into a 1/2 LN and leave the other one alone, like so http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152711
2017-01-25 21:03 HXJ_Crafter: oh damn
2017-01-25 21:03 HXJ_Crafter: my qq dropped
2017-01-25 21:04 HXJ_Crafter: ok done
2017-01-25 21:04 Protastic101: rip
2017-01-25 21:05 Protastic101: 01:53:403 (113403|3,113480|2,113480|1,113558|3,113635|2,113635|1) - alright, right here is kind of difficult to hit due to the fact that there's no real flow at this particular moment. Might help to try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152726
2017-01-25 21:05 Protastic101: And then you can control H the jumptrill afterwards if necessarsy
2017-01-25 21:05 Protastic101: necessary*
2017-01-25 21:06 HXJ_Crafter: rearanged
2017-01-25 21:06 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-25 21:06 Protastic101: You got time to go over BAXIC and NOVIXE?
2017-01-25 21:06 Protastic101: I'd feel bad for only modding one diff
2017-01-25 21:07 HXJ_Crafter: nope
2017-01-25 21:07 HXJ_Crafter: I need to fix my qq
2017-01-25 21:08 Protastic101: D:
2017-01-25 21:08 Protastic101: So you want me to post now then?
2017-01-25 21:08 HXJ_Crafter: yes
2017-01-25 17:14 Protastic101: Yeah?
2017-01-25 17:14 HXJ_Crafter: Could u please help me improve my hitsound?
2017-01-25 17:14 Protastic101: which map?
2017-01-25 17:14 HXJ_Crafter: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 17:15 HXJ_Crafter: w
2017-01-25 17:16 HXJ_Crafter: old chart before dadada
2017-01-25 17:16 Protastic101: oh that
2017-01-25 17:16 Protastic101: Actually just played it last night lol
2017-01-25 17:16 Protastic101: those LNs in GRAXITY make me cry :^D
2017-01-25 17:17 HXJ_Crafter: :'3
2017-01-25 17:17 Protastic101: So what up with the hs?
2017-01-25 17:18 Protastic101: btw, that soft-hitnormal is way too quiet
2017-01-25 17:18 HXJ_Crafter: Idk
2017-01-25 17:18 HXJ_Crafter: Maybe bad
2017-01-25 17:18 Protastic101: Additionally, 25% hs vol is too quiet to hear anything with the music
2017-01-25 17:18 HXJ_Crafter: soft-hitnormal is "no sound" I think
2017-01-25 17:19 Protastic101: Soft-hitnormal plays a small hihat, so there is sound, it's just damn near impossible to hear it
2017-01-25 17:19 HXJ_Crafter: lol
2017-01-25 17:20 HXJ_Crafter: yes small
2017-01-25 17:21 Protastic101: Ok, I gotchu fam
2017-01-25 17:21 HXJ_Crafter: I turn on my video to 100%
2017-01-25 17:21 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tAawJ.wav try using this as the soft-hitnormal
2017-01-25 17:21 HXJ_Crafter: then I heard that sound
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: Also, set your hitsound volume to 40%
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: 40% at the minimum I mean
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: I might consider using 50%, but the rest of your samples aside from the hitnormal are pretty loud
2017-01-25 17:22 Protastic101: also, whoosh whoosh bang bang sfx makes me sad D:
2017-01-25 17:23 HXJ_Crafter: wait me a while
2017-01-25 17:23 HXJ_Crafter: thx
2017-01-25 17:24 HXJ_Crafter: OK
2017-01-25 17:24 HXJ_Crafter: (i cannot change that just now so I restart)
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: ah rip lol
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: So anyways, change vol settings to 40%, and replace the soft-hitnormal with the once I sent you
2017-01-25 17:26 HXJ_Crafter: OK
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: Additionally, I have to tell you about double hitsounds and why you're making me cry
2017-01-25 17:26 Protastic101: give me a sec first tho
2017-01-25 17:27 HXJ_Crafter: don
2017-01-25 17:27 HXJ_Crafter: sounds great!
2017-01-25 17:28 Protastic101: Ok!
2017-01-25 17:28 Protastic101: So you know how to show sample name and all that jazz right?
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: wait a moment
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: not
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: My English is poor
2017-01-25 17:29 HXJ_Crafter: qwq
2017-01-25 17:30 HXJ_Crafter: simply OK
2017-01-25 17:30 Protastic101: ahh, sorry D:
2017-01-25 17:31 HXJ_Crafter: yareyare, it's very kind of u
2017-01-25 17:31 HXJ_Crafter: with hug
2017-01-25 17:31 Protastic101: 00:13:584 (13584|3,13584|0) - Ah ok, so first thing. When you're hitsounding using the editor's whistles, claps, and finishes (this stuff http://puu.sh/tAbgQ.jpg ), you only want to apply the sample once
2017-01-25 17:31 Protastic101: The two notes above use two whistles, one finish, and two claps, which is Q_Q
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: Btw, I'm in GRAXITY if you didn't know lol
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: I didn't make that clear, my bad
2017-01-25 17:32 HXJ_Crafter: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 17:32 HXJ_Crafter: I always know
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: oki then
2017-01-25 17:32 Protastic101: So yeah, multiple copies of the same hitsound at the same place like this http://puu.sh/tAbmY.jpg are bad and should only be used when sample importing
2017-01-25 17:34 HXJ_Crafter: I'm not able to connect puu.sh too fast
2017-01-25 17:34 HXJ_Crafter: OK I see
2017-01-25 17:34 Protastic101: http://puu.sh/tAbpk.jpg What you want to do is this instead, where one note = one hitsound (where applicable). Otherwise, you can put multiple hitsounds on the same note if you don't have a super large chord, like this http://puu.sh/tAbtV.jpg
2017-01-25 17:34 Protastic101: Oh, oops
2017-01-25 17:34 Protastic101: I'll use osu to upload ss then
2017-01-25 17:34 HXJ_Crafter: thanks
2017-01-25 17:35 Protastic101: But you get my point about the double hitsounds right?
2017-01-25 17:35 HXJ_Crafter: yes
2017-01-25 17:35 HXJ_Crafter: apple told me long time ago
2017-01-25 17:35 HXJ_Crafter: -[Apple]-
2017-01-25 17:35 Protastic101: 00:13:893 (13893|3,13893|2) - like this is not ok because you have two whistles at the same place. Instead, you should remove one whistle so it's one hitsound for every note
2017-01-25 17:35 Protastic101: Apple, cool guy
2017-01-25 17:36 HXJ_Crafter: wait a moment
2017-01-25 17:36 HXJ_Crafter: Can I use louder Clap here/
2017-01-25 17:36 HXJ_Crafter: ?
2017-01-25 17:36 Protastic101: The reason why you don't do that though, is because hitsounds are additive. Meaning if the hitsound volume is 40% and you put two of the same hitsounds, the volume plays at 80% instead cause 40 + 40 = 80% volume
2017-01-25 17:37 HXJ_Crafter: I know
2017-01-25 17:37 Protastic101: Eh? I wouldn't add a clap there
2017-01-25 17:37 HXJ_Crafter: 00:13:584 -
2017-01-25 17:37 Protastic101: Ah
2017-01-25 17:38 Protastic101: Tbh, since this is no fx version, I wouldn't use the whoosh whoosh sample at all, but it does work I guess, so that's ok
2017-01-25 17:38 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 17:39 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 17:39 Protastic101: 00:13:893 (13893|3,13893|2) - 00:14:202 (14202|0,14202|1) - 00:14:511 (14511|1,14511|2) - 00:14:821 (14821|0,14821|3) - 00:15:130 (15130|3,15130|1) - 00:15:439 (15439|0,15439|2) - and etc. So yeah, double hitsounds, just remove one from every spot
2017-01-25 17:39 HXJ_Crafter: Yes I did
2017-01-25 17:40 Protastic101: 00:28:429 (28429|3,28429|0) - got them here too?
2017-01-25 17:41 HXJ_Crafter: yes
2017-01-25 17:41 Protastic101: Then I guess there's nothing else for me to do. Just fix all the double hitsounds and they're good to go
2017-01-25 17:41 HXJ_Crafter: 00:31:135 -
2017-01-25 17:41 Protastic101: Do you have the other difficulties hitsounded, or do you need help copying over any hitsounds?
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: Can I use 80%?
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: oh
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: All hitsound copies from Eedow's 14
2017-01-25 17:42 Protastic101: I wouldn't use 80%
2017-01-25 17:42 Protastic101: Keep your hitsounds consistent. Double hitsounds shouldn't ever really be used
2017-01-25 17:42 HXJ_Crafter: follow the beginner, 60 maybe OK
2017-01-25 17:43 HXJ_Crafter: thx baka sheep chan
2017-01-25 17:43 Protastic101: You could change the volume of the beginning though, to be like 30% since it's not to quiet, from 00:01:212 - to 00:13:506 -
2017-01-25 17:44 Protastic101: Btw, when copying over hitsounds from whichever diff serves as the original hitsounded one, make sure you clear the hitsounds from the other diffs first so that it copies over cleanly
2017-01-25 17:44 HXJ_Crafter: That's a big deal
2017-01-25 17:45 HXJ_Crafter: OK
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: So yeah. You got time to go over the chart too? I kind of want to talk about the difficulty differences between GRAXITY and INFINIXE
2017-01-25 17:46 HXJ_Crafter: Breakfast
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: Ah ok
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: Well poke me whenever and we can go over the chart via irc
2017-01-25 17:46 HXJ_Crafter: i‘ll finish it quickly
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: I'm too lazy to make a forum post
2017-01-25 17:46 HXJ_Crafter: :3
2017-01-25 17:46 Protastic101: take your time lol
2017-01-25 17:47 HXJ_Crafter: i love dumplings
2017-01-25 17:47 Protastic101: share me dumplings D:
2017-01-25 17:52 HXJ_Crafter: OK I'm OK
2017-01-25 17:53 Protastic101: where my dumplings at D:<
2017-01-25 17:53 HXJ_Crafter: oh
2017-01-25 17:53 HXJ_Crafter: pity that dumplings only made in China
2017-01-25 17:53 HXJ_Crafter: I'll finish my hs
2017-01-25 17:54 Protastic101: Oki, just poke me whenever you wanna mod
2017-01-25 18:12 HXJ_Crafter: fixed
2017-01-25 18:12 Protastic101: Ok, ready for mod?
2017-01-25 18:13 HXJ_Crafter: eyah
2017-01-25 18:13 HXJ_Crafter: yeah*
2017-01-25 18:13 HXJ_Crafter: The other diffs needs to check, but I don't have enough time lol
2017-01-25 18:14 HXJ_Crafter: need*
2017-01-25 18:15 Protastic101: rip lol
2017-01-25 18:15 Protastic101: ahh, why do I keep flipping your name and typing JXH instead of HXJ lmao XD
2017-01-25 18:15 HXJ_Crafter: almost fixed the two hitsound
2017-01-25 18:15 HXJ_Crafter: lol
2017-01-25 18:15 HXJ_Crafter: JXH
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101:
2017-01-25 18:16 HXJ_Crafter: retfarc_JXH
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: lmao
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: perf name 10/10
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: anyways
2017-01-25 18:16 HXJ_Crafter: I just update
2017-01-25 18:16 Protastic101: I wanna just address the fact that I feel like Eedow's diff is denser and harder in terms of patterns
2017-01-25 18:16 HXJ_Crafter: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1038572 BlackY vs. Yooh - XROSS INFECTION [GRAVIXY Lv.16]]
2017-01-25 18:17 Protastic101: yeah, I just updated
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: only two notes still have problems
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: I've fixed after updating
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: then start
2017-01-25 18:17 HXJ_Crafter: 16||14
2017-01-25 18:18 HXJ_Crafter: rip
2017-01-25 18:18 Protastic101: Well anyways, imo, eedow's diff is denser than yours since it uses more handstreams if I recall correctly from when I testplayed it last night. But ah well
2017-01-25 18:18 Protastic101: I guess it's ok? Idk
2017-01-25 18:19 Protastic101: 00:13:893 (13893|3,13893|2,14047|2) - btw, just a tip, you wanna try and avoid LNs + short notes on the same hand like this. Moving 00:14:047 (14047|2) - to 1 and moving 00:14:202 (14202|0) - to 3 would work better imo
2017-01-25 18:19 HXJ_Crafter: you see Ee's diff focus on notes
2017-01-25 18:20 HXJ_Crafter: I have ever tried
2017-01-25 18:20 HXJ_Crafter: but the pattern will be even awful
2017-01-25 18:20 HXJ_Crafter: lol, the number of patterns like this is not so big
2017-01-25 18:21 HXJ_Crafter: many*
2017-01-25 18:21 Protastic101: Yeah, anyways, that was my only real concern
2017-01-25 18:21 Protastic101: Well, trans diff wise
2017-01-25 18:22 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 18:22 Protastic101: 00:18:377 (18377|1,18377|0,18377|3,18532|0,18532|1,18532|3) - These notes are the same kick sound as 00:17:913 (17913|0,17913|2) - or 00:17:295 (17295|3,17295|1) - for example, yet they're triples. Unlike 00:17:604 (17604|3,17604|2,17604|0) - which are snares, there isn't added emphasis to those triples, so I'd consider just making them doubles instead
2017-01-25 18:24 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7151997
2017-01-25 18:24 Protastic101: Yeah, that works
2017-01-25 18:27 Protastic101: 00:22:553 (22553|2) - I would end this LN at 00:22:785 - since the pitch changes there, and add a double also, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152015
2017-01-25 18:28 HXJ_Crafter: i think I'll delete this lN
2017-01-25 18:29 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-25 18:29 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152027
2017-01-25 18:29 Protastic101: 00:26:419 (26419|3) - I would move this to 1 to avoid a complete disconnection from the stream, which feels a bit awkward to play compared to the linear flows you've already set up for the player
2017-01-25 18:30 Protastic101: 10/10
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: I've changed
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: but I forget to update
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: :3
2017-01-25 18:30 Protastic101: Ah rip lol
2017-01-25 18:30 HXJ_Crafter: I remember it's kjk originally right?
2017-01-25 18:31 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152030
2017-01-25 18:31 Protastic101: 00:28:429 - Dunno why you stopped the 1/4 stream here. This is where the music starts building up and gets intense. Try this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152035
2017-01-25 18:31 Protastic101: And yeah, it was kjk originally
2017-01-25 18:32 HXJ_Crafter: oh...
2017-01-25 18:32 HXJ_Crafter: that maybe too hard
2017-01-25 18:32 HXJ_Crafter: cus it is still beginning of the part
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: 00:29:666 - Similar to the above for this. I'd reduce the triples to doubles and do something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152045
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: Ah well
2017-01-25 18:33 HXJ_Crafter: 00:28:429 - 00:33:377 -
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: I personally think it would be better to keep mapping the 1/4 stream, but whatever you choose
2017-01-25 18:33 Protastic101: I mean, it is the last diff, so it'd make sense to be pretty hard for a build up part
2017-01-25 18:34 HXJ_Crafter: I don't want everyone to miss a lot at the beginning
2017-01-25 18:34 HXJ_Crafter: 00:32:140 - this is kinda difficult to catch
2017-01-25 18:35 HXJ_Crafter: so I keep
2017-01-25 18:35 Protastic101: Ah, oki
2017-01-25 18:37 Protastic101: 00:38:017 (38017|1,38171|1,38326|1,38480|1) - Most of your stacks at this point have only been two notes long. Might try this to keep consistent with that pattern http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152061
2017-01-25 18:38 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 18:40 Protastic101: 00:40:336 (40336|1) - Move this to 3, 00:40:491 (40491|1) - move to 1, and add a note in 2 at 00:40:413 - , then move 00:40:645 (40645|0) - to 2, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152078
2017-01-25 18:40 Protastic101: it's for the 3/4 piano there
2017-01-25 18:41 HXJ_Crafter: piano?
2017-01-25 18:41 Protastic101: The delay
2017-01-25 18:41 Protastic101: You know, the piano note that comes in at 00:38:326 - 00:38:944 - 00:39:254 - 00:39:563 - for example
2017-01-25 18:41 HXJ_Crafter: sure
2017-01-25 18:42 HXJ_Crafter: wow
2017-01-25 18:42 HXJ_Crafter: Do have a sound
2017-01-25 18:43 HXJ_Crafter: cool
2017-01-25 18:43 Protastic101: 00:42:578 - 00:43:197 - This may be a stupid idea to you, but to avoid that 1 note jack, you could just jack both the jumps which I think is easier since it doesn't require as much coordination between hands, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152104
2017-01-25 18:44 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152115
2017-01-25 18:44 HXJ_Crafter: what about this
2017-01-25 18:45 Protastic101: Eh, I'd say keep your original in that case
2017-01-25 18:45 HXJ_Crafter: 00:43:197 - I really don't like df df
2017-01-25 18:45 HXJ_Crafter: sure
2017-01-25 18:45 Protastic101: Yeah, I got you. Use your original pattern
2017-01-25 18:46 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 18:46 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152126
2017-01-25 18:46 HXJ_Crafter: right?
2017-01-25 18:46 00:50:697 (50697|0,50774|1,50852|1,50929|0) - 00:51:084 (51084|2,51161|3,51238|2,51315|2,51393|3,51470|2) - *sobbing*
2017-01-25 18:46 Protastic101: Yeah, that works
2017-01-25 18:47 Protastic101: Dude, those jacks kind of just come out of nowhere
2017-01-25 18:47 Protastic101: In addition, they create one handed trills that are uncomfortable to hit and time on both hands
2017-01-25 18:48 HXJ_Crafter: Oh
2017-01-25 18:48 Protastic101: I mean, it's a good idea, but playing wise, it's an ass to hit
2017-01-25 18:49 HXJ_Crafter: I don't think it's too difficult?
2017-01-25 18:51 HXJ_Crafter: owo, I hardly ever miss it
2017-01-25 18:51 HXJ_Crafter: after all it's the ending of this part
2017-01-25 18:51 Protastic101: Idk fam, I just feel like the timing of it is really difficult cause there's no emphasis in the music for jacks to be there
2017-01-25 18:52 Protastic101: I argued that same point earlier and got rejected DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-01-25 18:52 HXJ_Crafter: lol
2017-01-25 18:53 HXJ_Crafter: 00:50:852 (50852|1,50929|0,50929|2,50929|3,51006|1,51084|2,51161|1,51161|3,51161|0,51238|2) -
2017-01-25 18:53 Protastic101: Ah well
2017-01-25 18:53 HXJ_Crafter: It's OK if i ctrl+H, but I don't like qwq
2017-01-25 18:54 Protastic101: keep it if you want, I won't absolutely force anything on you
2017-01-25 18:54 Protastic101: 00:57:346 - 00:57:424 - would consider adding notes in 1 and 4 respectively though, since there's a muted kick here like at 00:57:037 (57037|2,57037|3,57114|0,57114|1) -
2017-01-25 18:54 HXJ_Crafter: Oki
2017-01-25 18:54 HXJ_Crafter: marked
2017-01-25 18:54 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 18:57 Protastic101: 00:57:501 (57501|0) - Also, I would probably remove this LN since you haven't mapped the synth at all in this section yet. To add, there's a muted kick at 00:57:578 - too, so removing the LN would make it work out better I guess
2017-01-25 18:58 Protastic101: 00:59:047 (59047|2,59202|1) - These LNs are smooth and flow into each other, so I think it's better to make them 1/2 long and connect them rather than 1/4 long
2017-01-25 18:59 Protastic101: 01:00:130 - The notes become a little difficult to follow now since you're ignoring a lot of the melody synths and using short 1/4 LNs for fairly connected sounds
2017-01-25 19:00 Protastic101: I'd consider adding a 1/2 LN at 01:00:130 - and making 01:00:285 (60285|1,60439|2) - single notes
2017-01-25 19:00 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152180
2017-01-25 19:00 Protastic101: 01:00:903 (60903|2) - There's no synth here on the downbeat; rather, it starts at 01:00:826 -
2017-01-25 19:00 HXJ_Crafter: damn
2017-01-25 19:01 Protastic101: Yeah, that screenshot works I guess
2017-01-25 19:02 Protastic101: Idk, the entire way you structured this transition is incredibly difficult to follow since you didn't actually follow the music and just kind of went off and did your own thing
2017-01-25 19:02 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152188
2017-01-25 19:02 HXJ_Crafter: maybe
2017-01-25 19:02 Protastic101: I guess that works too
2017-01-25 19:03 Protastic101: 01:02:063 - there's a note here
2017-01-25 19:04 Protastic101: 01:02:140 (62140|0,62160|1,62179|2) - I don't actually think there's a 1/8 sound. This entire measure feels more like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152195
2017-01-25 19:04 HXJ_Crafter: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152198
2017-01-25 19:05 Protastic101: 01:02:411 - well you're missing a note here
2017-01-25 19:05 HXJ_Crafter: oh damn it's 9
2017-01-25 19:06 HXJ_Crafter: how can I add a note here?
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: going to visit my grandpa.
2017-01-25 19:07 Protastic101: Ah ok
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: after it
2017-01-25 19:07 Protastic101: We can continue later then
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: oh grandma8
2017-01-25 19:07 HXJ_Crafter: grandma*
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: my grandpa is rest in peace
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: qwq
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: Oh shit
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: sorry D:
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: that's ok
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: I'll finish the rest in a post actually
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: You don't need
2017-01-25 19:08 Protastic101: timezones probably won't coincide til sunday for me lmao
2017-01-25 19:08 HXJ_Crafter: I'll be back 1 hrs
2017-01-25 19:09 HXJ_Crafter: if you're available
2017-01-25 19:09 Protastic101: I'll try
2017-01-25 19:09 Protastic101: bai o/
2017-01-25 19:09 HXJ_Crafter: bb
2017-01-25 19:09 HXJ_Crafter: savelog please :3
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: protato :3
2017-01-25 20:39 Protastic101: o/
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: i just update my osu! here
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: o/
2017-01-25 20:39 HXJ_Crafter: i have 20 minutes left
2017-01-25 20:40 Protastic101: alright, chill
2017-01-25 20:40 Protastic101: 01:02:411 - Eh, I'm still pretty sure you're missing a note here lol
2017-01-25 20:41 HXJ_Crafter: I got something f**xing wrong
2017-01-25 20:41 HXJ_Crafter: now ok
2017-01-25 20:42 Protastic101: 01:03:300 (63300|3) - Assuming you're not aiming to make shields here, I'd move this to 3. If you do want to make shields, you could try this instead http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152613
2017-01-25 20:42 HXJ_Crafter: wait me a moment
2017-01-25 20:42 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-25 20:43 HXJ_Crafter: 10:32 HXJ_Crafter: protato :3
2017-01-25 20:43 HXJ_Crafter: 01:02:411 - Eh, I'm still pretty sure you're missing a note here lol
2017-01-25 20:44 HXJ_Crafter: Assuming you're not aiming to make shields here, I'd move this to 3. If you do want to make shields, you could try this instead http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152613
2017-01-25 20:44 HXJ_Crafter: just copy
2017-01-25 20:44 Protastic101: yeah, I got it lol
2017-01-25 20:45 HXJ_Crafter: idk how to add that note
2017-01-25 20:45 Protastic101: It's 1/8
2017-01-25 20:45 HXJ_Crafter: I know, but nowhere to put
2017-01-25 20:46 Protastic101: ohhh
2017-01-25 20:46 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152633 You'll have to reduce the triple to a double
2017-01-25 20:46 Protastic101: but it plays better than if you had an incomplete 1/8 roll
2017-01-25 20:47 HXJ_Crafter: I cannot upload the ss
2017-01-25 20:48 HXJ_Crafter: 01:02:295 (62295|0,62334|1,62372|3,62411|2,62450|3,62450|0,62450|1) -
2017-01-25 20:48 HXJ_Crafter: is this ok?
2017-01-25 20:48 Protastic101: Yeah
2017-01-25 20:48 Protastic101: You get the stuff I mentioned about the shields too?
2017-01-25 20:48 HXJ_Crafter: maybe
2017-01-25 20:49 HXJ_Crafter: 01:03:532 -
2017-01-25 20:49 HXJ_Crafter: maybe col D is empty
2017-01-25 20:49 Protastic101: 01:03:300 (63300|3) - Mentioned moving this to 3 to avoid a shield, or if you wanna shield all the LNs, moving 01:03:532 (63532|2) - to 2, and the LN at 01:03:532 (63532|0) - to 3
2017-01-25 20:49 Protastic101: I'm fine with either way
2017-01-25 20:50 HXJ_Crafter: 0 1 2 3 or 1 2 3 4
2017-01-25 20:50 Protastic101: 01:05:542 (65542|3,65774|3,65774|2) - This is a bit tricky to hit tho, cause you have to shield the LN + shortnote while also pressing a new LN on the same hand
2017-01-25 20:50 Protastic101: 1 2 3 4
2017-01-25 20:50 HXJ_Crafter: oki
2017-01-25 20:50 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 20:51 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152656 this might work for those LNs I mentioned above
2017-01-25 20:52 Protastic101: 01:15:362 (75362|3,75439|1) - Would suggest moving to 2 and 4 respectively since the current pattern feels like a false lead
2017-01-25 20:52 HXJ_Crafter: always now
2017-01-25 20:52 HXJ_Crafter: know
2017-01-25 20:52 Protastic101: ?
2017-01-25 20:53 HXJ_Crafter: i mean done
2017-01-25 20:53 Protastic101: Ah ok lol
2017-01-25 20:53 Protastic101: 01:16:212 (76212|0,76367|2,76522|0) - For this, I would consider control H + shift once to the left like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152669 This way it's more balanced on both hands since the current pattern leans heavily on the left hand
2017-01-25 20:54 HXJ_Crafter: sure
2017-01-25 20:55 Protastic101: 01:25:800 (85800|2,85955|2) - Not sure if you're intentionally using stacks, but if not, I would move 01:25:955 (85955|2) - to 1, 01:26:109 (86109|0) - to 3, and 01:26:264 (86264|2) - to 1 again
2017-01-25 20:55 Protastic101: Feels more balanced that way
2017-01-25 20:55 HXJ_Crafter: *sure
2017-01-25 20:56 Protastic101: 01:37:553 (97553|0,97553|1,97707|0) - I would suggest control J here so that the LN is on the weaker middle finger and the short notes on the stronger index finger for playabilty
2017-01-25 20:56 Protastic101: Not control J, I mean switch
2017-01-25 20:57 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152689 like this
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: I know
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: done
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: tho (col 2)
2017-01-25 20:57 Protastic101: That works
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: 01:37:862 (97862|1,97862|2) -
2017-01-25 20:57 HXJ_Crafter: I Ctrl+H
2017-01-25 20:58 Protastic101: 01:38:248 (98248|3) - As for this, I know that you really wanna use LNs for the synth, but it's kind of a pain to hit imo, what with 01:38:326 (98326|2,98326|0) - right in the middle of the LN. If you don't remove the note, I'd consider moving 01:38:326 (98326|2) - to 2 instead then, so that you don't need to have two different timings on the same hand
2017-01-25 20:58 Protastic101: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152701 kind of like this
2017-01-25 20:59 Protastic101: 01:40:027 (100027|0) - Similar reasoning to the above, move this to 4 to avoid different timings/releases on the same hand
2017-01-25 21:00 HXJ_Crafter: ok
2017-01-25 21:01 Protastic101: 01:46:831 (106831|0,106986|2,106986|3) - Similar to that last point, short notes in the middle of LNs are meh. Since these are different pitches, you could either shorten 01:46:831 (106831|0) - to end at 01:46:986 - since the pitch changes, and add a note LN at 01:46:986 - , or you can turn 01:46:986 (106986|3) - into a 1/2 LN and leave the other one alone, like so http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152711
2017-01-25 21:03 HXJ_Crafter: oh damn
2017-01-25 21:03 HXJ_Crafter: my qq dropped
2017-01-25 21:04 HXJ_Crafter: ok done
2017-01-25 21:04 Protastic101: rip
2017-01-25 21:05 Protastic101: 01:53:403 (113403|3,113480|2,113480|1,113558|3,113635|2,113635|1) - alright, right here is kind of difficult to hit due to the fact that there's no real flow at this particular moment. Might help to try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7152726
2017-01-25 21:05 Protastic101: And then you can control H the jumptrill afterwards if necessarsy
2017-01-25 21:05 Protastic101: necessary*
2017-01-25 21:06 HXJ_Crafter: rearanged
2017-01-25 21:06 Protastic101: oki
2017-01-25 21:06 Protastic101: You got time to go over BAXIC and NOVIXE?
2017-01-25 21:06 Protastic101: I'd feel bad for only modding one diff
2017-01-25 21:07 HXJ_Crafter: nope
2017-01-25 21:07 HXJ_Crafter: I need to fix my qq
2017-01-25 21:08 Protastic101: D:
2017-01-25 21:08 Protastic101: So you want me to post now then?
2017-01-25 21:08 HXJ_Crafter: yes