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Stop being so ignorant about your arguments. You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds. The majority of the population of Earth has average intelligence, yet they populate the most "highly rated" jobs. Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant. Memory and discipline play major roles there and nothing else.B1rd wrote:
Then provide evidence showing that IQ isn't an important factor in the academic achievements one can make and actually back up your wishful thinking.
It's not me who's being ignorant, your arguments have been unfortunately liberal lately. You don't have to provide any evidence? What a joke, your statement is completely divorced from reality. According to this test, the average IQ for an experimental physicist is 147 https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct= ... Gc&cad=rjaAurani wrote:
Stop being so ignorant about your arguments. You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds. The majority of the population of Earth has average intelligence, yet they populate the most "highly rated" jobs. Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant. Memory and discipline play major roles there and nothing else.
im listening to more and its fucking hilarious this is my cancer lullaby for today.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Everyone who uses osugame is automatically a piece of shit that should be drawn and quartered
You guys don't mind if I but in do you?Aurani wrote:
Stop being so ignorant about your arguments. You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds. The majority of the population of Earth has average intelligence, yet they populate the most "highly rated" jobs. Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant. Memory and discipline play major roles there and nothing else.B1rd wrote:
Then provide evidence showing that IQ isn't an important factor in the academic achievements one can make and actually back up your wishful thinking.
Well yh, geography does play a part but I don't see how one can argue that intelligence is "completely irrelevant"Blitzfrog wrote:
You gotta define successful though
I.Q is so not important in the current world it's not funny
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
It's more about what family you're born than what brain you're given
No, it's just a liberal myth that there is a big untapped resource of smart people in poor areas. What family you're born into is one of the factors that goes into determining how smart you are.Blitzfrog wrote:
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
ITT 3: We talk about parallel universes.kai99 wrote:
watching this atm
I didn't pay 4 bucks for this, B1rd. Go back to natto and stop lewding the dragon loliB1rd wrote:
I have a lot of porn of this character on my HDD.
B1rd wrote:
No, it's just a liberal myth that there is a big untapped resource of smart people in poor areas. What family you're born into is one of the factors that goes into determining how smart you are.Blitzfrog wrote:
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
I know you are trying to make a joke but it really fails when it's visible that the post t prior to yours was made over 5 hours agoCanadian Baka wrote:
is this thread like..... 5 posts per minute or something?@?@?@
You gifted B1rd a supporter tag?Foxtrot wrote:
I didn't pay 4 bucks for this, B1rd. Go back to natto and stop lewding the dragon loliB1rd wrote:
I have a lot of porn of this character on my HDD.
Your mom told you to give Blitzfrog supporter cus that's where all the goodies comeFoxtrot wrote:
Sorry I don't give money to individuals named Blitzfrog, my mom told me not to
well, technically I am giving money to peppy so mmmmhh
We were talking about individuals, but if you want to bring up demographics, then yes it is evident that IQ is related to race. Blacks in America have higher IQs than blacks in Africa, due to access to more education and more white genes, however it is still significantly lower than Whites, even controlling for socio-economic levels. Asians and Jews have higher IQ than Whites, Whites have higher IQ than Hispanics, Hispanics have higher IQ than Negroes, Negroes have a higher IQ than indigenous Australians. Given the same circumstances. Anti-racialists are also anti-objective ideologues who make any plausible excuse to deny the obvious conclusion.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Do you believe that IQ is entirely inherent and can't be changed throughout your life? This feels like an assumption made by most people.
I know that's part of the point of testing for IQ in the first place, but I'm pretty sure it's both a mix of nature AND nurture, like most things about people. I mean, there's two ways of looking at statistics:
Wow, look at all of these shit countries that test for incredibly low IQs (in the 60s, on average, for example). These people are, genetically, inherently inferior!
Wow, look at all these shit countries that test for incredibly low IQs. I wonder how that'd change if those people were put in much better environments- they'd probably rise a lot, given different circumstances!
One of them is a conclusion that's rather blindly stated (probably because superiority feels good to those people), the other one asks a question, more than anything.
You and I, we're men of sublime taste.Foxtrot wrote:
He made natto. That's pretty fucking rad to me
Mmh, my lack of Sakuya pictures is worrying. Sure, please send me your goods whenever you have the time.B1rd wrote:
You and I, we're men of sublime taste.Foxtrot wrote:
He made natto. That's pretty fucking rad to me
btw, I have like, hundreds of pics of Sakuya I hand-picked from pixiv myself.
I'm sure most of them are hentai.Foxtrot wrote:
Mmh, my lack of Sakuya pictures is worrying. Sure, please send me your goods whenever you have the time.
well, you're wrong.Blitzfrog wrote:
I agree with dad
I personally think intelligence is gained rather than genetically bounded. If you just cool your pride and think about it for a sec you will know what I'm saying
I meant not genetically bounded doesn't mean none of it is genetics....Railey2 wrote:
well, you're wrong.Blitzfrog wrote:
I agree with dad
I personally think intelligence is gained rather than genetically bounded. If you just cool your pride and think about it for a sec you will know what I'm saying
intelligence has both an environmental and genetic component, as proven by countless studies on the subject.
if every single person from the slums was seperated from their environment and raised in a high income household environment, their iq's would most likely show the normal bell curve, centered around iq 100.
These are amazing; thanks for sharing.B1rd wrote:
nah
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Both environmental and genetic factors play a very big role, so i wouldn't want over- or understate the importance of either. When it comes to intelligence, genetics are VERY important.Blitzfrog wrote:
I meant not genetically bounded doesn't mean none of it is genetics....
Like seriously what part about a human isn't genetics...
Pretty fucking dank.B1rd wrote:
nah
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zop12y6w96b3 ... 82f7a?dl=0
I do what I want hueKisses wrote:
stick to shitposting pls blitzfrog
You know whatRailey2 wrote:
Both environmental and genetic factors play a very big role, so i wouldn't want over- or understate the importance of either. When it comes to intelligence, genetics are VERY important.Blitzfrog wrote:
I meant not genetically bounded doesn't mean none of it is genetics....
Like seriously what part about a human isn't genetics...
I think anti-racialists are probably more focused on what can actually be effected with new policy. If you say "Okay, X races are inferior IQ-wise, so they're just gonna be worse off and we should keep things the way they are", that's not exactly inviting progress- whereas the less conservative view is that regardless of the source of people's low IQ or other inequalities, work should be done to minimize that inequality where reasonably possible. So we should still try to make sure black people get an equal access to education as white people, even if they are inherently lower intelligence, or whatever.B1rd wrote:
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We were talking about individuals, but if you want to bring up demographics, then yes it is evident that IQ is related to race. Blacks in America have higher IQs than blacks in Africa, due to access to more education and more white genes, however it is still significantly lower than Whites, even controlling for socio-economic levels. Asians and Jews have higher IQ than Whites, Whites have higher IQ than Hispanics, Hispanics have higher IQ than Negroes, Negroes have a higher IQ than indigenous Australians. Given the same circumstances. Anti-racialists are also anti-objective ideologues who make any plausible excuse to deny the obvious conclusion.
In my opinion, considering I'm not a biologist, IQ is part nature and part nurture. Part of what determines your IQ is your genetics, the other part is your environment during your formative years. Once you're an adult however, like reaction speed, it's very hard to raise your IQ. Of course it's possible, considering that an IQ test is just a test of lots of different individual aspects, but you can't raise your IQ to the point you would surpass someone who was significantly more naturally gifted. Geniuses aren't made, they are born.
It is nothing but conceit and vanity to think that the social engineers have any power over natural reality. It is impossible to fix the underlying biological causes, distributing money from those who have earned it to those who have not does nothing to make the latter group more able, it makes them less able and less independent, and it is immoral. Forcing black kids who have neither desire nor ability through the education system is pointless. Enabling welfare queens to have dozens of kids in low-income neighborhoods does nothing but exacerbate the problem. This progressive crusade to create equality in an unequal world is nothing but a concerted denial of reality and a prodigal waste of resources. Liberty and equality are mutually exclusive.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
I think anti-racialists are probably more focused on what can actually be effected with new policy. If you say "Okay, X races are inferior IQ-wise, so they're just gonna be worse off and we should keep things the way they are", that's not exactly inviting progress- whereas the less conservative view is that regardless of the source of people's low IQ or other inequalities, work should be done to minimize that inequality where reasonably possible. So we should still try to make sure black people get an equal access to education as white people, even if they are inherently lower intelligence, or whatever.
I don't think it's really possible to control for socioeconomic factors when testing IQ comparisons between races though, considering how different their lives end up being as a result of race. Hopefully in the future we'll have a better answer to these kinds of things, if only for the sake of curiosity (since as said, non-conservatives' focus is on what can be done, rather than "people are this way", full stop)
is it really, though?DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
I don't think it's really possible to control for socioeconomic factors when testing IQ comparisons between races though, considering how different their lives end up being as a result of race. Hopefully in the future we'll have a better answer to these kinds of things, if only for the sake of curiosity (since as said, non-conservatives' focus is on what can be done, rather than "people are this way", full stop)
You've suddenly made a lot of really sweeping claims.B1rd wrote:
It is nothing but conceit and vanity to think that the social engineers have any power over natural reality. It is impossible to fix the underlying biological causes, distributing money from those who have earned it to those who have not does nothing to make the latter group more able, it makes them less able and less independent, and it is immoral. Forcing black kids who have neither desire nor ability through the education system is pointless. Enabling welfare queens to have dozens of kids in low-income neighborhoods does nothing but exacerbate the problem. This progressive crusade to create equality in an unequal world is nothing but a concerted denial of reality and a prodigal waste of resources. Liberty and equality are mutually exclusive.
In many cases it should be decent, yeah. It's just that racial issues still do very much exist regardless of where you are, for the most part, and it's hard to tell how much of an effect that has on people's development.Railey2 wrote:
is it really, though?
Sorting after income, education and occupation should get you really far already.
Certainly it won't be completely perfect, but in many cases it should be good enough?
not controlled for socioeconomic factors.Comfy Slippers wrote:
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You're definitely overestimating how big the biological differences are.B1rd wrote:
It is nothing but conceit and vanity to think that the social engineers have any power over natural reality. It is impossible to fix the underlying biological causes, distributing money from those who have earned it to those who have not does nothing to make the latter group more able, it makes them less able and less independent, and it is immoral. Forcing black kids who have neither desire nor ability through the education system is pointless. Enabling welfare queens to have dozens of kids in low-income neighborhoods does nothing but exacerbate the problem. This progressive crusade to create equality in an unequal world is nothing but a concerted denial of reality and a prodigal waste of resources. Liberty and equality are mutually exclusive.
e.eKisses wrote:
I know you are trying to make a joke but it really fails when it's visible that the post t prior to yours was made over 5 hours agoCanadian Baka wrote:
is this thread like..... 5 posts per minute or something?@?@?@
Railey2 wrote:
not controlled for socioeconomic factors.Comfy Slippers wrote:
[image]You're definitely overestimating how big the biological differences are.B1rd wrote:
It is nothing but conceit and vanity to think that the social engineers have any power over natural reality. It is impossible to fix the underlying biological causes, distributing money from those who have earned it to those who have not does nothing to make the latter group more able, it makes them less able and less independent, and it is immoral. Forcing black kids who have neither desire nor ability through the education system is pointless. Enabling welfare queens to have dozens of kids in low-income neighborhoods does nothing but exacerbate the problem. This progressive crusade to create equality in an unequal world is nothing but a concerted denial of reality and a prodigal waste of resources. Liberty and equality are mutually exclusive.
The ideal of equality doesn't mean that everyone should be equal, its about giving everyone equal chances. The liberal ideal pertains to the american dream as it was originally conceived: The equality of opportunity.
However this does not mean that everyone should simply be left to their own devices. Equality of opportunity can only be achieved when everything needed for a successful career is equally accessible to everyone:
- Transportation
- Education
- Health Care
- Housing
- etc.
That is what welfare should achieve.
Someone with iq 100 from a poor family should at least have somewhat similar opportunity compared to someone with iq 100 from a moderately wealthy family.
I want to agree with this but my experience with the horrible No Child Left Behind Act makes me want to think otherwise. Instead of trying to push the less-gifted kids into becoming as intelligent as the more gifted ones and having everyone be equal, we should be pushing the gifted kids into becoming even smarter. After all, these kids are our next doctors, scientists, astronomers, ect.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
If you say "Okay, X races are inferior IQ-wise, so they're just gonna be worse off and we should keep things the way they are", that's not exactly inviting progress- whereas the less conservative view is that regardless of the source of people's low IQ or other inequalities, work should be done to minimize that inequality where reasonably possible.
All of those minus curiosity level, though, from my experience, intelligent people tend to be very curious people themselves (probably because as it's easy for them to learn things, it snowballs into wanting to learn more, whereas with "dumber" people the opposite tends to happen)Blitzfrog wrote:
Define intelligence
Problem Solving?
Learning Speed?
Creativity?
Imagination?
Curiosity Level?
Concentration Abilities?
Or maybe all of those combined?
Well here is what the dictionary says:
The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
This means applying known knowledge?
What about new knowledge?
How does one measure creativity and imagination abilities?
I'm sticking with the "the bigger the slider the smarter you are"
You can still agree with the principle while criticising how it is carried out. If the No Child Left Behind Act wasn't good enough, then it should be replaced with something better, no? I'm sure a lot of people feel this way about the ACA. Obamacare DEFINITELY was not perfect, but the solution to that would be to fix it and make it better.johnmedina999 wrote:
I want to agree with this but my experience with the horrible No Child Left Behind Act makes me want to think otherwise. Instead of trying to push the less-gifted kids into becoming as intelligent as the more gifted ones and having everyone be equal, we should be pushing the gifted kids into becoming even smarter. After all, these kids are our next doctors, scientists, astronomers, ect.
god i saw your progress in the storyboard discord, good luck with animating thatMara wrote:
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that's so cool. :OMara wrote:
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it looks like you have unleashed hell upon yourself; have fun with that.Mara wrote:
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get in lineHika wrote:
sara i want ur butthole???
Fact.kai99 wrote:
You cannotmake a postshoot another soon after your last.
yeah ... let's just make that lewd and voila! the great wonders of ot is here.Blitzfrog wrote:
Fact.kai99 wrote:
You cannotmake a postshoot another soon after your last.
you mean that hole on the ground i digged for you? neatoBlitzfrog wrote:
You cut in front of me
Sara I want your other hole
i don't trust you. you're probably just gonna shovel it like the cunt you areHika wrote:
bitch im first in line wtf.
HOLY SHItt ROASTED TO ASHES.Foxtrot wrote:
you mean that hole on the ground i digged for you? neatoBlitzfrog wrote:
You cut in front of me
Sara I want your other holei don't trust you. you're probably just gonna shovel it like the cunt you areHika wrote:
bitch im first in line wtf.
Yo get tae in hereFoxtrot wrote:
you mean that hole on the ground i digged for you? neatoBlitzfrog wrote:
You cut in front of me
Sara I want your other hole
Embrace your inner lewdnesskai99 wrote:
yeah ... let's just make that lewd and voila! the great wonders of ot is here.
dunno whether to feel proud or depressed
Being micro does not mean your life is endedkai99 wrote:
no roast is ruined just like my life
oh don't worry, I have called 811 to make surejohnmedina999 wrote:
Don't dig too deep, though!
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You may hit a pipe or something.
wtf, stopBlitzfrog wrote:
Fact.kai99 wrote:
You cannotmake a postshoot another soon after your last.
Endaris needs to be a modEndaris wrote:
no