Not the same manlevesterz wrote:
tthis might help youBlitzfrog wrote:
Where is allmynameistaken?
Need more fanfics
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holy SHIT, i'm offensive and i find this korean.B1rd wrote:
Same. Japs were too easy on them IMO.kai99 wrote:
i fucking hate koreanskids.
i like rock but i want to throw my rock to the rock band
Rock and roll, to the world ~Pochacco wrote:
i like rock but i want to throw my rock to the rock band
Mods are dicks, because basically they can do whatever they want and have next to zero accountability. This is pretty much a universal principle of human nature, power corrupts. Of course if you bring this up, mods will say, in one way another, "we can regulate ourselves". Of course this is an absurd notion of an excuse that doesn't hold up in reality.
"The man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, 'Limit yourself'; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian."
-Murray Rothbard
"The man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, 'Limit yourself'; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian."
-Murray Rothbard
well, okay.
The quote isn't bad but the context is maybe a bit inappropriate.
I mean you would rather get thrown out of tuuba than out of the osu!forums...
I mean you would rather get thrown out of tuuba than out of the osu!forums...
That quote is perfectly appropriate, I don't see much fundamental difference between the organisation of this forum and the organisation of a country.
well i mean we can't expect everything to be acceptable to everyone..
that being said don't expect me to talk politics pls
that being said don't expect me to talk politics pls
What has that to do with anything?kai99 wrote:
well i mean we can't expect everything to be acceptable to everyone..
There is much more to gain from abusing government power compared to abusing moderation power so the incentive is significantly lower.B1rd wrote:
That quote is perfectly appropriate, I don't see much fundamental difference between the organisation of this forum and the organisation of a country.
Basically kai tries to say that it's not possible to please everybody the way we moderate in osu!. If you find yourself to call us as dicks because you only see one side, then so it is. I can't change your opinion because why should I, as well I don't care for it since it's your opinion and not the one of others or someone else and should be tolerated, even if it's unfair.
And so are the risks. When I talk about "abusing power", it doesn't necessarily have to be a conscious effort to stuff people over, mostly it's just using power inappropriately; people get a rush out of exerting their authority over others, at any level. Whatever scale it's on is irrelevant, what matters that it exist even at this small level, and people are getting stuffed over even at this small level.Endaris wrote:
There is much more to gain from abusing government power compared to abusing moderation power so the incentive is significantly lower.
The problem with people is that they are apathetic, they don't care for any philosophy and they don't live by any defined values. Philosophy is intrinsic to politics, and politics is intrinsic to life, which is why people who say they are "apolitical" are saying nonsense, all they mean is that they are apathetic. Why should people tolerate on a smaller scale what they don't tolerate on a larger scale? How can you complain about corruption in a political system if it's not even a problem you address at the most trivial level?
"Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much."
-Luke 16:10
Who is talking about "taking sides"? You haven't presented a single issue in which one could take a side on, in fact you and all moderators go out of your way to prevent any accountability for any specific moderator action by censoring any discussion of any such event. I am pointing out the fundamental flaws in this system which solely relies on fairness of those with power, in which it is impossible for users to get any sort of retribution for any injustice. Also I have no idea what you mean with your last sentence.Stefan wrote:
Basically kai tries to say that it's not possible to please everybody the way we moderate in osu!. If you find yourself to call us as dicks because you only see one side, then so it is. I can't change your opinion because why should I, as well I don't care for it since it's your opinion and not the one of others or someone else and should be tolerated, even if it's unfair.
hey look it's time for another one of my angry tirades, i'm not gonna be calling names out this time though
Mods don't magically become dicks overnight through getting their mod powers. Because the first job of a mod isn't repression.
It's advice.
A mod is the guy you go to when you're brand new and you want advice on getting into the community.
A mod is the guy who will tell you about the customs of the community you're getting into.
A mod will be the one to defend you against others should you be shunned for the wrong reason.
A mod will be an impartial referee between two parties that are clashing.
A mod will be the one who talks to you after you've made a mistake and tell you what you did wrong.
A mod will be the one to give you a second chance if you made a bad impression.
A mod should never have to become a command bot who mutes people by the dozen. That's not moderation. That is repression.
It fucks me off that people blatantly disregard all the efforts honest mods put into the community they're in and get an awful rep just because they silence abusers and are as such seen as power-tripping bastards. Not to say that there aren't, even in this game, some mods set specific phrases to highlight them and hang out in every channel, including those of languages they do not speak, just waiting for a kill to be landed like they're playing a fucking RTS. Bunch of fucking scumbags. These people are not moderators, they're janitors. Killbots. Their job should be the one of a script. They're the ones who give the mods such a bad name and cause the honest ones to stop trying to take their role with passion and start becoming killbots of their own just so they don't have to deal with the consequences, because they have to abide by some bullshit code of conduct that ties their hands behind their back while the average joe can just spitroast them without fear of any meaningful retribution.
It says everything about the community of this game that these people are still around, and are even praised for their "efforts". It sickens me. A strong community has no need for janitors or killbots. People are not animals. For the most part, you can communicate with them instead of ignoring the problem and entering a !kill command. The shit reputation that these asswipes have given to the whole mod group now cause the community to act like shitheads to honest people who are ready to have a discussion with you, and not a fucking one-way schooling where you get silenced if you disagree. You have another human being in front of you so talk to them and try understand why they're acting out of line, and if they're not trolling you, try to get to the bottom of it instead of pressing the button like a fucking monkey.
I lost one of my greatest friends by acting this way, and even though I was lucky to make up with them I will never fucking forgive myself for acting like such garbage.
Mods don't magically become dicks overnight through getting their mod powers. Because the first job of a mod isn't repression.
It's advice.
A mod is the guy you go to when you're brand new and you want advice on getting into the community.
A mod is the guy who will tell you about the customs of the community you're getting into.
A mod will be the one to defend you against others should you be shunned for the wrong reason.
A mod will be an impartial referee between two parties that are clashing.
A mod will be the one who talks to you after you've made a mistake and tell you what you did wrong.
A mod will be the one to give you a second chance if you made a bad impression.
A mod should never have to become a command bot who mutes people by the dozen. That's not moderation. That is repression.
It fucks me off that people blatantly disregard all the efforts honest mods put into the community they're in and get an awful rep just because they silence abusers and are as such seen as power-tripping bastards. Not to say that there aren't, even in this game, some mods set specific phrases to highlight them and hang out in every channel, including those of languages they do not speak, just waiting for a kill to be landed like they're playing a fucking RTS. Bunch of fucking scumbags. These people are not moderators, they're janitors. Killbots. Their job should be the one of a script. They're the ones who give the mods such a bad name and cause the honest ones to stop trying to take their role with passion and start becoming killbots of their own just so they don't have to deal with the consequences, because they have to abide by some bullshit code of conduct that ties their hands behind their back while the average joe can just spitroast them without fear of any meaningful retribution.
It says everything about the community of this game that these people are still around, and are even praised for their "efforts". It sickens me. A strong community has no need for janitors or killbots. People are not animals. For the most part, you can communicate with them instead of ignoring the problem and entering a !kill command. The shit reputation that these asswipes have given to the whole mod group now cause the community to act like shitheads to honest people who are ready to have a discussion with you, and not a fucking one-way schooling where you get silenced if you disagree. You have another human being in front of you so talk to them and try understand why they're acting out of line, and if they're not trolling you, try to get to the bottom of it instead of pressing the button like a fucking monkey.
I lost one of my greatest friends by acting this way, and even though I was lucky to make up with them I will never fucking forgive myself for acting like such garbage.
I would argue that power does corrupt to a degree, and the people you hang around changes your mentality. But it goes without saying that there are good mods and bad ones, but the thing is, if you act as a collective you will be judged as a collective. You mention some good ideals of what a moderator should be like, but they fall short of reality. I know through personal experience that you can be silenced without even knowing what you did wrong, and you have to jump through hoops just to find out. Like, you have to mass mail the mod list and just hope that one of them takes enough interest in your problem. If you have a system with little bottom-up accountability and little recourse for average users, then I don't see how that cannot create an unfair system and moderators with an imperious attitude. And consequently, an "us vs them" mentality.
Like you say, it would be good if there was more communication between the users and mods, though I've found that mods that will actually take the time to have a conversation with you are in the minority. All there needs to be is just a little more communication, transparency and accountability, and things would be much better. Any changes towards these sort of thing are rejected by peppy on grounds that it will "cause drama", well of course drama and friction is an intrinsic facet of human interaction and aren't necessarily bad as they can achieve some purpose. But suppressing drama with a heavy-handed autocratic system isn't a good solution, then everyone will just go to Reddit and have an anti-mod circlejerk there. Anyway, I appreciate your insight.
Like you say, it would be good if there was more communication between the users and mods, though I've found that mods that will actually take the time to have a conversation with you are in the minority. All there needs to be is just a little more communication, transparency and accountability, and things would be much better. Any changes towards these sort of thing are rejected by peppy on grounds that it will "cause drama", well of course drama and friction is an intrinsic facet of human interaction and aren't necessarily bad as they can achieve some purpose. But suppressing drama with a heavy-handed autocratic system isn't a good solution, then everyone will just go to Reddit and have an anti-mod circlejerk there. Anyway, I appreciate your insight.
If you don't like mods then please leave here I would be very happy
i chose the wrong personRaspberriel wrote:
how the hell did you get silenced for almost two dayslol wrote:
you don't make me angry blitzfrog otherwise i'd do something, i just occasionally call you cancer which is pretty light compared to what i did before i was banned:)))))) i'm sure some people here can remember
also ye dragon loli is alright but if you have dragon loli porn that's a solid amber alert
is the fucking server suffering or is it just my bad internet??
edit: better now
edit: better now
mada mada mada mada hosshii no
tatoe
It's serverkai99 wrote:
is the fucking server suffering or is it just my bad internet??
edit: better now
Freaking lagged 20second per page
Don't get me wrong B1rd, but the way the guy wrote in that thread convienced me that the silences were 100% deserved.
ORAYYYTTT!!!!!Meah wrote:
Rock and roll, to the world ~Pochacco wrote:
i like rock but i want to throw my rock to the rock band
Geniuses solve problems no one else can solve.
The way the guy wrote convinced me that he was genuine pissed off about some injustice, which don't happen infrequently.Mara wrote:
Don't get me wrong B1rd, but the way the guy wrote in that thread convienced me that the silences were 100% deserved.
Well, one is an abstract pseudo-scientific concept, the other is an objective measurement of one's cognitive ability.Meah wrote:
IQ vs EQ, what do you think makes a genius?
First of all ; how do you see a person that classified as genius?.Meah wrote:
IQ vs EQ, what do you think makes a genius?
Is it the vast amount of knowledge that they posses or just how they can creatively create something out of nothing.
For me its kinda hard choice as for IQ and EQ both play and important role.
Nope, it's underrated.Blitzfrog wrote:
IQ is overrated
Nope, it's overratedB1rd wrote:
Nope, it's underrated.Blitzfrog wrote:
IQ is overrated
InterQuartilerange
He is russian. They are always pissed off no matter what is going on.B1rd wrote:
The way the guy wrote convinced me that he was genuine pissed off about some injustice, which don't happen infrequently.
...at least my 2000 hours in CS:GO has told me that.
finally
sad fact: i couldnt farm haitai b/cuz not enough skills
Sad fact: I couldn't grind pp anymore. ar8 DT is now too fast for me to follow.
he srsly needs to do this
and put emphasis on the moaning part
and put emphasis on the moaning part
hello darkness my friend
Go post in my raspberry thread
Then provide evidence showing that IQ isn't an important factor in the academic achievements one can make and actually back up your wishful thinking.Blitzfrog wrote:
Nope, it's overrated
lol
Stop being so ignorant about your arguments. You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds. The majority of the population of Earth has average intelligence, yet they populate the most "highly rated" jobs. Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant. Memory and discipline play major roles there and nothing else.B1rd wrote:
Then provide evidence showing that IQ isn't an important factor in the academic achievements one can make and actually back up your wishful thinking.
It's not me who's being ignorant, your arguments have been unfortunately liberal lately. You don't have to provide any evidence? What a joke, your statement is completely divorced from reality. According to this test, the average IQ for an experimental physicist is 147 https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct= ... Gc&cad=rjaAurani wrote:
Stop being so ignorant about your arguments. You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds. The majority of the population of Earth has average intelligence, yet they populate the most "highly rated" jobs. Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant. Memory and discipline play major roles there and nothing else.
The fact is that IQ is a very important factor in the capabilities that one can achieve. It is impossible for someone with an IQ of 80 to be a physicist. This is true regardless of whether you want to believe it or not.
^reminds me of this
edit: lmao there was more to this series????????
edit: lmao there was more to this series????????
Everyone who uses osugame is automatically a piece of shit that should be drawn and quartered
im listening to more and its fucking hilarious this is my cancer lullaby for today.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Everyone who uses osugame is automatically a piece of shit that should be drawn and quartered
they're actually kinda good with this song imo
You guys don't mind if I but in do you?Aurani wrote:
Stop being so ignorant about your arguments. You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds. The majority of the population of Earth has average intelligence, yet they populate the most "highly rated" jobs. Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant. Memory and discipline play major roles there and nothing else.B1rd wrote:
Then provide evidence showing that IQ isn't an important factor in the academic achievements one can make and actually back up your wishful thinking.
I don't exactly know what the context is but I'm guessing you're talking about about the success of a country/how rich a country is (or something similar in regards of it's people). "Intelligence not only isn't an important factor in the outcome of your education, but is in fact completely irrelevant". Intelligence isn't the only important factor but how is it completely irrelevant? Do you have any evidence to support this? If we were to have both 2 groups of people on both ends of the spectrum, one being completely retarded and the other being highly intelligent, if you were to theoretically make all the other variables the same are you saying the outcome of their education would be the same as well?
"You don't need any evidence from him, unless you're utterly blind and can't look around yourself for 3 seconds." Also when you state stuff like this wouldn't that mean evidence could have easily have been provided in 3 seconds as well i.e. with little effort? Or is this untrue and you said to allow you to throw out a generic insult?
/r/osugame sings PLANET//SHAPER when
EDIT: They're talking about being a genius, and how IQ affects academic achievement/being successful in life.
EDIT: They're talking about being a genius, and how IQ affects academic achievement/being successful in life.
yh, I realized that later on but it still doesn't change much
You gotta define successful though
I.Q is so not important in the current world it's not funny
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
It's more about what family you're born than what brain you're given
I.Q is so not important in the current world it's not funny
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
It's more about what family you're born than what brain you're given
Well yh, geography does play a part but I don't see how one can argue that intelligence is "completely irrelevant"Blitzfrog wrote:
You gotta define successful though
I.Q is so not important in the current world it's not funny
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
It's more about what family you're born than what brain you're given
No, it's just a liberal myth that there is a big untapped resource of smart people in poor areas. What family you're born into is one of the factors that goes into determining how smart you are.Blitzfrog wrote:
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
If you're talking about success in the financial sense, prudency, common sense and delayed gratification or big factors. But IQ is still a very good measurement to determine someone's cognitive ability.
People just don't like to put any stock into IQ because they don't like the idea of people being inherently superior or inferior. In other words it's just political correctness getting in the way of objectivity.
This is beautiful
http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23470771
http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23470771
watching this atm
ITT 3: We talk about parallel universes.kai99 wrote:
watching this atm
O P I N I O N D I S C A R D E D
what
I didn't pay 4 bucks for this, B1rd. Go back to natto and stop lewding the dragon loliB1rd wrote:
I have a lot of porn of this character on my HDD.
B1rd wrote:
No, it's just a liberal myth that there is a big untapped resource of smart people in poor areas. What family you're born into is one of the factors that goes into determining how smart you are.Blitzfrog wrote:
It's common knowledge that probably the smartest of us lives in slums without education.
Do you believe that IQ is entirely inherent and can't be changed throughout your life? This feels like an assumption made by most people.
I know that's part of the point of testing for IQ in the first place, but I'm pretty sure it's both a mix of nature AND nurture, like most things about people. I mean, there's two ways of looking at statistics:
Wow, look at all of these shit countries that test for incredibly low IQs (in the 60s, on average, for example). These people are, genetically, inherently inferior!
Wow, look at all these shit countries that test for incredibly low IQs. I wonder how that'd change if those people were put in much better environments- they'd probably rise a lot, given different circumstances!
One of them is a conclusion that's rather blindly stated (probably because superiority feels good to those people), the other one asks a question, more than anything.
I agree with dad
I personally think intelligence is gained rather than genetically bounded. If you just cool your pride and think about it for a sec you will know what I'm saying
I personally think intelligence is gained rather than genetically bounded. If you just cool your pride and think about it for a sec you will know what I'm saying
is this thread like..... 5 posts per minute or something?@?@?@
I know you are trying to make a joke but it really fails when it's visible that the post t prior to yours was made over 5 hours agoCanadian Baka wrote:
is this thread like..... 5 posts per minute or something?@?@?@
You gifted B1rd a supporter tag?Foxtrot wrote:
I didn't pay 4 bucks for this, B1rd. Go back to natto and stop lewding the dragon loliB1rd wrote:
I have a lot of porn of this character on my HDD.
He made natto. That's pretty fucking rad to me
Sorry I don't give money to individuals named Blitzfrog, my mom told me not to
well, technically I am giving money to peppy so mmmmhh
well, technically I am giving money to peppy so mmmmhh
i don't simply make natto
i create it.
i create it.
Your mom told you to give Blitzfrog supporter cus that's where all the goodies comeFoxtrot wrote:
Sorry I don't give money to individuals named Blitzfrog, my mom told me not to
well, technically I am giving money to peppy so mmmmhh
We were talking about individuals, but if you want to bring up demographics, then yes it is evident that IQ is related to race. Blacks in America have higher IQs than blacks in Africa, due to access to more education and more white genes, however it is still significantly lower than Whites, even controlling for socio-economic levels. Asians and Jews have higher IQ than Whites, Whites have higher IQ than Hispanics, Hispanics have higher IQ than Negroes, Negroes have a higher IQ than indigenous Australians. Given the same circumstances. Anti-racialists are also anti-objective ideologues who make any plausible excuse to deny the obvious conclusion.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Do you believe that IQ is entirely inherent and can't be changed throughout your life? This feels like an assumption made by most people.
I know that's part of the point of testing for IQ in the first place, but I'm pretty sure it's both a mix of nature AND nurture, like most things about people. I mean, there's two ways of looking at statistics:
Wow, look at all of these shit countries that test for incredibly low IQs (in the 60s, on average, for example). These people are, genetically, inherently inferior!
Wow, look at all these shit countries that test for incredibly low IQs. I wonder how that'd change if those people were put in much better environments- they'd probably rise a lot, given different circumstances!
One of them is a conclusion that's rather blindly stated (probably because superiority feels good to those people), the other one asks a question, more than anything.
In my opinion, considering I'm not a biologist, IQ is part nature and part nurture. Part of what determines your IQ is your genetics, the other part is your environment during your formative years. Once you're an adult however, like reaction speed, it's very hard to raise your IQ. Of course it's possible, considering that an IQ test is just a test of lots of different individual aspects, but you can't raise your IQ to the point you would surpass someone who was significantly more naturally gifted. Geniuses aren't made, they are born.
You and I, we're men of sublime taste.Foxtrot wrote:
He made natto. That's pretty fucking rad to me
btw, I have like, hundreds of pics of Sakuya I hand-picked from pixiv myself.
Mmh, my lack of Sakuya pictures is worrying. Sure, please send me your goods whenever you have the time.B1rd wrote:
You and I, we're men of sublime taste.Foxtrot wrote:
He made natto. That's pretty fucking rad to me
btw, I have like, hundreds of pics of Sakuya I hand-picked from pixiv myself.
I'm sure most of them are hentai.Foxtrot wrote:
Mmh, my lack of Sakuya pictures is worrying. Sure, please send me your goods whenever you have the time.
Let me see.
well, you're wrong.Blitzfrog wrote:
I agree with dad
I personally think intelligence is gained rather than genetically bounded. If you just cool your pride and think about it for a sec you will know what I'm saying
intelligence has both an environmental and genetic component, as proven by countless studies on the subject.
I meant not genetically bounded doesn't mean none of it is genetics....Railey2 wrote:
well, you're wrong.Blitzfrog wrote:
I agree with dad
I personally think intelligence is gained rather than genetically bounded. If you just cool your pride and think about it for a sec you will know what I'm saying
intelligence has both an environmental and genetic component, as proven by countless studies on the subject.
if every single person from the slums was seperated from their environment and raised in a high income household environment, their iq's would most likely show the normal bell curve, centered around iq 100.
Like seriously what part about a human isn't genetics...
These are amazing; thanks for sharing.B1rd wrote:
nah
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zop12y6w96b3 ... 82f7a?dl=0
Both environmental and genetic factors play a very big role, so i wouldn't want over- or understate the importance of either. When it comes to intelligence, genetics are VERY important.Blitzfrog wrote:
I meant not genetically bounded doesn't mean none of it is genetics....
Like seriously what part about a human isn't genetics...
Pretty fucking dank.B1rd wrote:
nah
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zop12y6w96b3 ... 82f7a?dl=0
stick to shitposting pls blitzfrog
I do what I want hueKisses wrote:
stick to shitposting pls blitzfrog
You know whatRailey2 wrote:
Both environmental and genetic factors play a very big role, so i wouldn't want over- or understate the importance of either. When it comes to intelligence, genetics are VERY important.Blitzfrog wrote:
I meant not genetically bounded doesn't mean none of it is genetics....
Like seriously what part about a human isn't genetics...
I would say slider size is a good representation of intelligence
Because in order for sliders to become large it requires incredible amounts of nutrients
Which means the brain is good at absorbing nutrients and perform it's action.
It is also a well known fact that mating boosts cognitive functions,
well with a bigger slider, you mate more, therefore you have increased cognitive function
Long story short, i agree with B1rd.
if you admit that intelligence is partially hereditary then you have to concede that there will probably be differences between the races, even after you control for socio-economic factors. Who knows how big these differences are, but they certainly exist.
intelligence is hereditary. There's not a lot to talk about here, imo.
if you admit that intelligence is partially hereditary then you have to concede that there will probably be differences between the races, even after you control for socio-economic factors. Who knows how big these differences are, but they certainly exist.
intelligence is hereditary. There's not a lot to talk about here, imo.
Define intelligence
Problem Solving?
Learning Speed?
Creativity?
Imagination?
Curiosity Level?
Concentration Abilities?
Or maybe all of those combined?
Well here is what the dictionary says:
The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
This means applying known knowledge?
What about new knowledge?
How does one measure creativity and imagination abilities?
I'm sticking with the "the bigger the slider the smarter you are"
Problem Solving?
Learning Speed?
Creativity?
Imagination?
Curiosity Level?
Concentration Abilities?
Or maybe all of those combined?
Well here is what the dictionary says:
The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
This means applying known knowledge?
What about new knowledge?
How does one measure creativity and imagination abilities?
I'm sticking with the "the bigger the slider the smarter you are"
I think anti-racialists are probably more focused on what can actually be effected with new policy. If you say "Okay, X races are inferior IQ-wise, so they're just gonna be worse off and we should keep things the way they are", that's not exactly inviting progress- whereas the less conservative view is that regardless of the source of people's low IQ or other inequalities, work should be done to minimize that inequality where reasonably possible. So we should still try to make sure black people get an equal access to education as white people, even if they are inherently lower intelligence, or whatever.B1rd wrote:
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We were talking about individuals, but if you want to bring up demographics, then yes it is evident that IQ is related to race. Blacks in America have higher IQs than blacks in Africa, due to access to more education and more white genes, however it is still significantly lower than Whites, even controlling for socio-economic levels. Asians and Jews have higher IQ than Whites, Whites have higher IQ than Hispanics, Hispanics have higher IQ than Negroes, Negroes have a higher IQ than indigenous Australians. Given the same circumstances. Anti-racialists are also anti-objective ideologues who make any plausible excuse to deny the obvious conclusion.
In my opinion, considering I'm not a biologist, IQ is part nature and part nurture. Part of what determines your IQ is your genetics, the other part is your environment during your formative years. Once you're an adult however, like reaction speed, it's very hard to raise your IQ. Of course it's possible, considering that an IQ test is just a test of lots of different individual aspects, but you can't raise your IQ to the point you would surpass someone who was significantly more naturally gifted. Geniuses aren't made, they are born.
I don't think it's really possible to control for socioeconomic factors when testing IQ comparisons between races though, considering how different their lives end up being as a result of race. Hopefully in the future we'll have a better answer to these kinds of things, if only for the sake of curiosity (since as said, non-conservatives' focus is on what can be done, rather than "people are this way", full stop)
dad
hi
where are these people coming from
where are these people coming from
It is nothing but conceit and vanity to think that the social engineers have any power over natural reality. It is impossible to fix the underlying biological causes, distributing money from those who have earned it to those who have not does nothing to make the latter group more able, it makes them less able and less independent, and it is immoral. Forcing black kids who have neither desire nor ability through the education system is pointless. Enabling welfare queens to have dozens of kids in low-income neighborhoods does nothing but exacerbate the problem. This progressive crusade to create equality in an unequal world is nothing but a concerted denial of reality and a prodigal waste of resources. Liberty and equality are mutually exclusive.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
I think anti-racialists are probably more focused on what can actually be effected with new policy. If you say "Okay, X races are inferior IQ-wise, so they're just gonna be worse off and we should keep things the way they are", that's not exactly inviting progress- whereas the less conservative view is that regardless of the source of people's low IQ or other inequalities, work should be done to minimize that inequality where reasonably possible. So we should still try to make sure black people get an equal access to education as white people, even if they are inherently lower intelligence, or whatever.
I don't think it's really possible to control for socioeconomic factors when testing IQ comparisons between races though, considering how different their lives end up being as a result of race. Hopefully in the future we'll have a better answer to these kinds of things, if only for the sake of curiosity (since as said, non-conservatives' focus is on what can be done, rather than "people are this way", full stop)