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beeboy123
I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost
X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.
This is so not true, lol.
beeboy123
She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.
Sakura
Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened
Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.

last night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.
Guess you can ignore I was on VLA for all of D2 until he end of the day phase and argue this sure.
And also ignore the change in all my other reads at the time
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's one way to say pushing everyone until you can see what sticks as a player who likes to town hunt sure.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.
Oh wow that happened within 3 RL days? i didnt notice. It felt a lot longer.
My read on you is very legit, for someone that was scumreading Hika, you didnt lift a finger when we were arguing before i townread her, for someone scumreading abraker, you didnt do a thing either, all you cared was about vote parking Jess.

beeboy123 wrote:

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.
Hey i know you kinda have to do your best to get a mislynch, but at least get your facts straight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
l

beeboy123 wrote:

ast night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.
>The same
>Bird pushes you for not scumhunting
>I push you out of paranoia because we never have the same reads.

Much similar, very wow.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.
Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
Day 1: I can't do anything cuz I only town hunt bye town tracker
Day 2: better hard push everyone
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You literally only aggressively push me and that is the case across all our games for w/e reason you have to do that it's just I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You literally only aggressively push me and that is the case across all our games for w/e reason you have to do
Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
beeboy123
Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Because i totally didnt out of Magical Girl mafia because i couldnt WotC Jess
Because you've totally never seen me make a case on someone else? Oh right i made a case on you in pieguyn game.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
My own words is that i am more disinterested and disconnected from games as scum.
You can ask this to ANYONE that knows my meta.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
My own words is that i am more disinterested and disconnected from games as scum.
You can ask this to ANYONE that knows my meta.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>you can't town hunt as scum so you push people instead this game
>ask anyone if I am interested as scum
Wow much defense, very point I was making.

You very much are engaged this game just not in the way you usually are as town.
beeboy123
You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.
But i didnt scurmead you there.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2nd, Hika, abraker and Jess were part of my PoE when i made the case on Hika, at that time Frosty gave me the possibility that Hika was faking confusion so i looked into it, i said that at the very start of my post, after further interactions with Hika i figured she was probably not scum, you had also been away and i had this weird feeling in my head due to you having come to the same conclusions i had, and then decided to forget about the game and not pursue anything, town beeboy pushes things harder, scum beeboy invents BS to survive.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Because i totally didnt out of Magical Girl mafia because i couldnt WotC Jess
Because you've totally never seen me make a case on someone else? Oh right i made a case on you in pieguyn game.
>I have never seen you make a case on other people after you started town hunting
>but beeboy I made a case on you

Well good thing I acknowledged you have made cases on me before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.
I didnt townhunt in pieguyn game either.
I also didn't townhunt in semi-nightless after D1.
Guess what alignment i flipped on both of those games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
but pieguyn mafia you where do apathetic it doesn't really count.
I wasnt in semi night less but that is like 1 game out of like 10 I have seen you in with your town hunting meta I could read it cause it is prolly more scum bs on your end.
Sakura
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 1#p8168571 <- totes not a case.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p8127615 <- totes wasnt townhunting on D1.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8297044 <- Take a wild guess at what my replacement flipped.
Sakura
All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
beeboy123
Wow you made 1 case in 30 games on your alt.
Wow I am wrong that totally justifies you pushing literally anyone until you can see what sticks.
Sakura
Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.

Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
Wow 1 case in 30 games means my meta is bs wow.
That doesn't even mean you where playing aggressively (which you weren't really doing in that game)

Like you have never played this aggressively before and your meta doesn't back that up. Hell your "I am active as scum" meta you brought up actually goes against you.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.

Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Both those games you replaced on your main where you don't solve via passive play and town hunting so my meta isn't bs.
And you are the one that needs to town it up not me.
Sakura
Your meta assesment is BS if there are exceptions, which means, what you're saying i only do as scum i've done as town.
so it is BS.
Stop moving the goalpost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game
I could've sworn you said this before
Oh yeah you did.
Sakura
You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
Hika
read tomorrow
Sakura
You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?
And all your full hearted day 1 play?

I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?
And all your full hearted day 1 play?

I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.
So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushing
Sakura
I mean sure, copying my reads is the exact perfect natural read progression a townie would have, totally.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushing
>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.
You haven't Denied anything I said though
Sakura
I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that! :o
Sakura
Now i know how to get better reads without putting any effort!
beeboy123
>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
Not frosting, conf town and your scum buddy
Sorry I forgot you won't bus or push frosting
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
Not frosting, conf town and your scum buddy
Sorry I forgot you won't bus or push frosting
Nope, still not scum!
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that! :o
You where totally ok killing the players that is different from pressure
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that! :o
You where totally ok killing the players that is different from pressure
Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
beeboy123
You haven't mentioned who you think I am scim with despite it being mylo as well.


God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.
Sakura
You're talking as if you've never played with me.
Which should show how BS this push you're making is.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
Yes which is why I said you just keep pushing people to see what sticks.
Hell at one point you said you thought Hika was conf scum but you gave up pushing Her to push Jess (aka not town play)
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

You haven't mentioned who you think I am scim with despite it being mylo as well.


God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost, not sure if there's a point to voting NL if bee's gonna be lynched either way even if it's today or tomorrow.
Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
Yes which is why I said you just keep pushing people to see what sticks.
Hell at one point you said you thought Hika was conf scum but you gave up pushing Her to push Jess (aka not town play)
No, i pushed you.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

You're talking as if you've never played with me.
Which should show how BS this push you're making is.
God you are so scum it isn't funny just claim please
Sakura
Plus i said Hika was 50-60% scum.
Get your facts straight.
beeboy123
Who is my scum buddy mrs beeboy is spouting bs?
you haven't actually expanded on that
Sakura
Hmmm...
But you mentioning something concerning.
It is true if you're scum i have 0 idea who your partner might be.
Considering you were absent for most of D2, it's kinda hard for you to have interactions of any sort ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ggwp.

If you manage to get this mislynch im going to despise you for using your irl situation to sneak away as scum.
Sakura
Although if you're town i wont be as mad coz i made a mistake too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
I am not using my irl as an excuse for anything except for not being here at the start of day 2.
I do admit I avoided responding to things because I am lazy.
Since I am town I admit to my flaws.


Unlike you who as scum who won't admit to your drastic change in play style which is why I know you are scum.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

I am not using my irl as an excuse for anything except for not being here at the start of day 2.
I do admit I avoided responding to things because I am lazy.
Since I am town I admit to my flaws.


Unlike you who as scum who won't admit to your drastic change in play style which is why I know you are scum.
Because there's no drastic change in playstyle.
beeboy123
And that's why I know you are scum ^_^
Sakura
Hmm...
even tho beeboy wasnt here to interact with anyone there must have been someone who had a TR on him for most of D2... oh wait that was me.
beeboy123
Anyone can read a recent game like newbie 14 and see how your play style changed so idk why you are denying it.
Also you keep arguing I am using irl as an excuse when I only use it to justify my VLA time like you are scum grasping onto straws.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Hmm...
even tho beeboy wasnt here to interact with anyone there must have been someone who had a TR on him for most of D2... oh wait that was me.
see your scum game is so obvious you just caught yourself ^_^
Sakura
I've already linked all my recent meta on D2 (or was it D1?)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
Yea and all those support my statement and so does newbie 14 which you didn't link.

Outside that 1 push you made in Demi night less even tho you still played more passively then you did here.
beeboy123
More passively by far.

I know you need to push me to win as scum but you could at least try and make your arguments a bit better. I am almost enjoying watching you struggle and fail to deny what I an saying
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

More passively by far.

I know you need to push me to win as scum but you could at least try and make your arguments a bit better. I am almost enjoying watching you struggle and fail to deny what I an saying
You dont mean...

THIS is your revenge this time, isnt it
Sakura
OMFG IM GOING TO LYNCH YOU WITH FIRE NOW
beeboy123
Is this your way of trying to make me think your town cause you can't win the 1 on 1?
beeboy123
We both know I don't care about revenge so keep trying to make me think your town
Sakura
Deep in i was really looking for a glint of light of you being town.
But i can see you're still out to destroy me ever since i caught you with my cop on Gistou.
I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY.
beeboy123
Or you are scum trying to AtE me with this Gistou revenge thing I already told you I didn't actually care about and are trying to AtE to me because you know I am susceptible to it.
Sakura
Plus
1) I havent failed to deny anything, you have failed to prove anything.
2) You conveniently used your irl situation to go afk for most of D2, then beetlejuice when pushed.
3) I am not playing differently, you're trying to get me ML'd and that's why you are trying to sell that to people here, considering they havent seen me in months while i was on my Luna Fox alt.
4) You DID say as scum you use BS to try to get your mislynches.
Sakura
So you're using outdated meta, that i have already proven wrong, to try to ML me.
Why are you worried about talking about the more recent games like pieguyn and semi-nightless? Because your case collapses that's why.
beeboy123
You looked at a 3 year old game for meta and I can't look at 3 month old game?
And I am the scum using bs?

Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

You looked at a 3 year old game for meta and I can't look at 3 month old game?
And I am the scum using bs?

Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
3 year old? woot?
Sakura
The only 3 year old game i remember with you is makai mix, and i only linked it once coz while checking the scum PT i found you commenting on a mason fake claim which made me laugh.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

You looked at a 3 year old game for meta and I can't look at 3 month old game?
And I am the scum using bs?

Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
3 year old? woot?
You looked up GIFs game where I was scum first.
Guess you can't remember the meta you looked up because you are scum and don't actually care about the meta you found earlier.

Scum a bit less this is too easy
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

The only 3 year old game i remember with you is makai mix, and i only linked it once coz while checking the scum PT i found you commenting on a mason fake claim which made me laugh.
You said you would Meta me and that and Gistou
Sakura
Meta wise, you usually bring the latest 3 games as either alignment.... although with Luna i only rolled scum twice, and one was as SK.
beeboy123
But it didnt end up being relevant cause you found nothing
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

The only 3 year old game i remember with you is makai mix, and i only linked it once coz while checking the scum PT i found you commenting on a mason fake claim which made me laugh.
You said you would Meta me and that and Gistou
I'm not even talking about meta anymore, you're the one bringing up meta.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Meta wise, you usually bring the latest 3 games as either alignment.... although with Luna i only rolled scum twice, and one was as SK.
You did very aggressively push pie in that game once she ran you up
Sakura
And i only brought Gistou coz you said you'd "get me" someday.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Meta wise, you usually bring the latest 3 games as either alignment.... although with Luna i only rolled scum twice, and one was as SK.
You did very aggressively push pie in that game once she ran you up
Yeah, once she ran me up, and pie was scum mind you, and SK =/= Group scum.
beeboy123
Yes I am talking about meta astute observation
Sakura
But hey, i did say that people would use that game now to find a way to ML me, and look at what you're doing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
SK = not town = not town mindset
Sakura
Sakura
I guess my fears of ppl using that game to ML me were well founded in the end.
beeboy123
You are the one that brought up the game not me.
Also just because you said that doesn't mean this game doesn't resemble your Sk game more than your town game
beeboy123
You brought up the game not me I am just sAying it goes against you not for you like the bs narrative you are writing
beeboy123
Your attempts at AtEing me despite me not actually bringing up that game is horrendous
Sakura
I brought it up coz SK isnt exactly scum meta.
Sakura
And THEN you started to make it sound like it was, coz apparently my play here resembled that game.
beeboy123
It is more mafia then town is all I am arguing, not that game makes you scum here.

It's clearly not what I am arguing I just feel like the Gistou ate didn't work for you so now you going onto the meta fear AtE cause we both know those are legit fears you have that I have sympathized with before.
Sakura
So to recap:
I'm talking about your play in THIS game, i'm not bringing meta sources of any sort to prove your guilt, why? Because your play in this game is eviedence of scum play.
You're trying to bring outdated meta to try to prove that "im playing different" when i personally linked my own meta earlier, everyone's capable of reading it and making their own conclusions, you just keep trying to bring it up because scum like to repeat the same tune over and over to subconsciously manipulate people into doing what they want.
Sakura
Or do you think that I as scum, am stupid enough to link my own meta to people and then go completely against it on a game?
There's 2 more simple answers:
1) Either im town and idc about the meta.
2) Im scum and im emulating my town meta.

So your meta argument is not possible in either scenario and shows that you're just spouting BS.
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