Also, I meant that as in "I can't believe you'd park your vote. You waited too long to move your vote off of me so now you're scummy as shit."
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Also now that I think about it, if I am correct, bird and frosty are confirmed town for me.
Ah thats my misunderstanding Hika, apologies. I'm sleeping, I've been up a long time and perhaps responding to all of this rn is a bad call.
Survivalism isn't alignment indicative, town can be survivalistic as well.Sakura wrote:
A town player doesnt care how ppl see them, they only care about finding scum. It's scum who's worried about looking like town.
Topic Starter
Votecount 1.2
Dawnsday [3] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo (L-2)
Hika [2] - Dawnsday, beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Hika, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Dawnsday [3] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo (L-2)
Hika [2] - Dawnsday, beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Hika, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, February 19th, 10:30 UTC.
Where did everyone even go.
thought it was implied we'd wait for that other guy to come on
+ wait for the people that haven't posted too much to step up n say stuff :^)
+ wait for the people that haven't posted too much to step up n say stuff :^)
Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.
Actually, funny you mention that but scum isn't stupid enough to quickhammer D1. They'd lose in an instant.
This is a reference to a time when I quickhammered in a game 4 years ago and Sakura gave me shit for it.
Sure, not a quick hammer, but I can certainly see the reasoning for a scum to vote onto me and just go with the current flavor of the day bandwagon. It's not entirely unlikely and seeing as how the bandwagon seems virtually no signs of stopping...
I think nobody's gonna say it, so I will.
If you were town, you would at least try to search scum in a more productive way than you just did, that is: "woo I think scum's in the wagon that's voting me". You're incredibly self-centered in a game where you have to communicate with other people in order to find the bad guys, because that's even what your Role PM should be telling you. I gave you more than 12 hours to try thinking how to defend yourself, but you did literally nothing with the fact that you're getting voted, except for a weak try to defend yourself. Yourself.
I must note here that I agree with beeboy saying that the act of self-defense is not alignment-inducing. But the difference is that a town player should be trying to defend himself by searching scum. You do contribute to the game, but in a non-constructive way.
You're scum.
If you were town, you would at least try to search scum in a more productive way than you just did, that is: "woo I think scum's in the wagon that's voting me". You're incredibly self-centered in a game where you have to communicate with other people in order to find the bad guys, because that's even what your Role PM should be telling you. I gave you more than 12 hours to try thinking how to defend yourself, but you did literally nothing with the fact that you're getting voted, except for a weak try to defend yourself. Yourself.
I must note here that I agree with beeboy saying that the act of self-defense is not alignment-inducing. But the difference is that a town player should be trying to defend himself by searching scum. You do contribute to the game, but in a non-constructive way.
You're scum.
ya live ya learn, guess my args were flimmy and i did get distracted from the actual town agenda. What can ya do. I'll guess I'm being lynched and accept that fact and move on for a better game sometime in the future once I'm more experienced. GGWP. Interesting experience.
Anyway for those still even remotely bothered with my reads:
Still scumread on Hika
null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
nulltown b1rd sakura frostings
townread beeboy
Anyway for those still even remotely bothered with my reads:
Still scumread on Hika
null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
nulltown b1rd sakura frostings
townread beeboy
So you unvoted your scumread?
Oh wow you dug yourself into a hole dude
Vote: Dawn
You literally went from "im not unvoting hika just coz i dont want to look bad" to "im scumreading hika but im unvoting her"
Btw he's at L-1 for anyone that cares.
Yeah please don't hammer guys. I will vote your ass out if you do.
Soooo not helping your case, dawn
Soooo not helping your case, dawn
Back
Dawn is null-scum.If he don't defend about his action.
OkrEdo wrote:
@abraker, Jess: step your game up.
Dawn is null-scum.If he don't defend about his action.
@Dawn Any thing you want to say about?
or I will hammer after I wake up
or I will hammer after I wake up
rEdo wrote:
@abraker, Jess: step your game up.
you want me to say something specific?Dawnsday wrote:
null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
Yes, yes there isFrostings wrote:
Wait there's someone named abraker in our game?
?___?
There is not much to gather from the first day and everybody else is doing such a great job triggering everybody, I don't even need to do anything.rEdo wrote:
abraker is a lurker so far. Null.
Instincts tell me to vote Dawn. So I did. And I believe I am correct to do so judging to his response from before. Now I wait till the second day to draw conclusions
Please dont edit your posts.
Shit you say that as you ninja me editing my post.Sakura wrote:
Please dont edit your posts.
Oh no, i read your post and when i came here again it had more text, you can just preview if you need to add new stuff, but if you post you're not allowed to edit it anymore.
Will keep in mindSakura wrote:
Oh no, i read your post and when i came here again it had more text, you can just preview if you need to add new stuff, but if you post you're not allowed to edit it anymore.
ya take the time to read the rules
you could get MK'd if you don't
you could get MK'd if you don't
From my experience scum doesn't play that simplyDawnsday wrote:
Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.
They don't have as much an incentive to quickly get rid of town than making themselves look innocent. Depends a bit on the scum players of course, but I will give the benefit of the doubt they are experienced
It's more likely wagons form with town players voting scummy players.
Topic Starter
abraker wrote:
-Edited Post-
Rules wrote:
4.4) Editing your post is grounds for an immediate modkill. Don't do it. PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
First and last warning to everyone: never edit your posts, that's one of the worst things you could do on a mafia game. Next offender will recieve a modkill.
Votecount 1.3
Dawnsday [4] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika (L-1)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Dawnsday, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Dawnsday [4] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika (L-1)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Dawnsday, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, February 19th, 10:30 UTC.
So Dawn why do you think Hika is scum?
Also why do you want to give up?
Also why do you want to give up?
Jess don't hammer I want Dawn to roleclaim at the very least.
I also want to know what everyone off the wagon (Hika, Sakura B1rd) to tell me what there thoughts on the wagon are.
Like idk why no one else sees how odd it is that there is literally 0 people against this lynch happening.
I also want to know what everyone off the wagon (Hika, Sakura B1rd) to tell me what there thoughts on the wagon are.
Like idk why no one else sees how odd it is that there is literally 0 people against this lynch happening.
Hika's not off the wagon :V
Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown
No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.
Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown
No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.
Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
I mean can you find me a game where scum was lynched day 1 with literally 0 opposition be my guest but I have personally never seen something like that. I have seen people make that argument before but I have never actually experienced a game where scum was just outright lynched for free.
I asked him about his Hika read because I want to engage with him because I do think there is a really good chance Dawnsday is town.
I asked him about his Hika read because I want to engage with him because I do think there is a really good chance Dawnsday is town.
Also the vote count has an error in it which is why I said that lol.
@mod swap the names of hika and dawnsday please.
@mod swap the names of hika and dawnsday please.
oh yeah, it has Hika as not voting when Hika's voting Dawnsday.
I was asking a serious question btw about if you have actually ever played or seen a game where scum has been lynched with 0 opposition.
I'm sorry guys, I was napping. I'm going back to sleep because I'm extremely tired.
I don't feel like we all can hammer right now so please take time discussing reads as far as it goes right now.
I'll most definitely tell you that I'm voting him because he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.
He also says I'm scummy but he removed his vote off of me. Also I am clearly voting him, not OMGUS though.
Ask me questions and I can get back to them.
I don't feel like we all can hammer right now so please take time discussing reads as far as it goes right now.
I'll most definitely tell you that I'm voting him because he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.
He also says I'm scummy but he removed his vote off of me. Also I am clearly voting him, not OMGUS though.
Ask me questions and I can get back to them.
Might as well make use of the time I have left, the zero opposition bandwagon is entirely expected, I did some incredibly braindead things and scum know how to punish that, fair play on their half.
I don't feel like we all can hammer right now so please take time discussing reads as far as it goes right now.Yes, because this would benefit you as I (as the newbie) have made such stupid plays that read wise, Me being scum is a perfectly acceptable notion. You then get to play the "Oh but I didn't want to hammer, I was looking for reads before we finished it!" card and it's your get out of jail free.
I'll most definitely tell you that I'm voting him because he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.Not only will this look stupid if I am lynched but you're also limiting the read. Go back further than just my "last few posts" I implore you any townies watching this. I'll admit, I played like a bonobo straight up but limiting your reads to the posts I have made recently seems very counter intuitive, esp after you have made the claim you are wanting to spend time discussing reads.
He also says I'm scummy but he removed his vote off of me.I removed my role as you're only my scumread in this given situation, I'm looking to hopefully push for easing of pressure for a portion of time. I think reads need to be readjusted and it needs to happen in a short timespan.
how am I limiting the read pls explain?!
I've told you all my conf reads too.
I've told you all my conf reads too.
I removed my role as you're only my scumread in this given situation, I'm looking to hopefully push for easing of pressure for a portion of time. I think reads need to be readjusted and it needs to happen in a short timespan.Meant to say I removed my vote, sorry I've been up a while now
There are some people literally voting you from your first interaction with them (or no interaction even).
Please don't target me when you should be defending your behind rn!
Please don't target me when you should be defending your behind rn!
Also if you think someone is scum, you put your vote on them 
simple as that
simple as thathow am I limiting the read pls explain?!
he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.
last few posts. panicking survivalistic townie, limiting me down to "anti town" from my reactionary posts.
At this point I've defended my behind and done myself no justice. Beeboy has tried to stand up for me and hey I respect that so thanks a bunch my man. If I'm lynched and conf townie (:d) I'm hard pushing my town agenda now. Will me making more flimsy claims for myself do anything, no. Me going all out and giving out what I can in whatever amount I can get it benefits town regardless of flow of the vote.
If I am lynched, I am conf townie and I've been pushing town agenda in as big a batch as I can manage and at least town has SOMETHING from me rather than just ending the day and saying "well lol he was awful"
If I am not lynched then town still gets info from me and the day !DOES NOT END! for a while now so there is plenty of time to jump back on me.
I'm going to reread this and see if I messed up my english
ok reread seems fine
and obviously needless to say, if I die and I end up being conf scum then town STILL end happy cuz "hey he was awful scum 1 down gg ez"
I love how bee talks about this being a 0 resistance wagon and he's resisting said wagon :^)
jokes aside. Yeah i do remember a few games that it has happened tho there's like only one that i have burned in my mind due to how scum was lynched D1 easily, then we proceeded to fail to lynch the other 2 and scum won >_>
jokes aside. Yeah i do remember a few games that it has happened tho there's like only one that i have burned in my mind due to how scum was lynched D1 easily, then we proceeded to fail to lynch the other 2 and scum won >_>
That being said in the last Dawn posts he never explained his Hika scumread, and continued to just AtE
rEdo's criticisms seem accurate, I didn't get any scumreads from him at the start, but his latest posts seem really scummy. He gets a few votes on him, and then he's freaking out, claiming scum is bandwagoning him etc. He doesn't seem to be helping town, and it seems like he's townreading beeboy simply because beeboy was defending him. So, either he's scum, or he's just playing a really bad townie. Even if it's the latter, you can't just ignore scumreads because someone was playing bad.
So, my vote's on Dawnsday, though I don't think there's any point in quick-lynching at the moment. Besides that, I'm annoyed at abraker and jess for not posting much. I'd rather lynch deadweight on policy before going after scumreads.
Anyway, despite what Sakura says, I find Frosting's play unusual. It seems completely irrational to follow a vote from the first post, and then he switched it to Dawn for no apparent reason. Really that just feels like vote-parking and laying low. I'm getting a townread from rEdo, seems he's been pretty aggressive in rooting out scum. Pretty much null from other people.
Pretty sure I was voting beeboy still, but it wasn't a serious vote so it doesn't matter. unvote
So, my vote's on Dawnsday, though I don't think there's any point in quick-lynching at the moment. Besides that, I'm annoyed at abraker and jess for not posting much. I'd rather lynch deadweight on policy before going after scumreads.
Anyway, despite what Sakura says, I find Frosting's play unusual. It seems completely irrational to follow a vote from the first post, and then he switched it to Dawn for no apparent reason. Really that just feels like vote-parking and laying low. I'm getting a townread from rEdo, seems he's been pretty aggressive in rooting out scum. Pretty much null from other people.
Pretty sure I was voting beeboy still, but it wasn't a serious vote so it doesn't matter. unvote
b1rd can confirm im ms paint god, look at how perfect i did those circles (yes im tired)
beeboy i need you to be my voice of reason whilst i sleep
I voted Dawnsday because his posts up to my vote on him were all commentary with little analysis and initiative to find scum
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him
/looks for my name in this postB1rd wrote:
rEdo's criticisms seem accurate, I didn't get any scumreads from him at the start, but his latest posts seem really scummy. He gets a few votes on him, and then he's freaking out, claiming scum is bandwagoning him etc. He doesn't seem to be helping town, and it seems like he's townreading beeboy simply because beeboy was defending him. So, either he's scum, or he's just playing a really bad townie. Even if it's the latter, you can't just ignore scumreads because someone was playing bad.
So, my vote's on Dawnsday, though I don't think there's any point in quick-lynching at the moment. Besides that, I'm annoyed at abraker and jess for not posting much. I'd rather lynch deadweight on policy before going after scumreads.
Anyway, despite what Sakura says, I find Frosting's play unusual. It seems completely irrational to follow a vote from the first post, and then he switched it to Dawn for no apparent reason. Really that just feels like vote-parking and laying low. I'm getting a townread from rEdo, seems he's been pretty aggressive in rooting out scum. Pretty much null from other people.
Pretty sure I was voting beeboy still, but it wasn't a serious vote so it doesn't matter. unvote
I went with the option that had most favorable town outcomes (and even kindly drew up how :p ) I'm concerned that this may be beyond my 00:30 AM reasoning. I ruined my own chances at self defence with my god awful early argumentation and such, I feel like to an experienced player it should be very obvious I am new.
Closest thing I've played to Mafia is Town of Salem (which I have only JUST got back into because of my performance in this game.), Not sure why there is a claim from Frostings that I am potentially faking the "new" card
Closest thing I've played to Mafia is Town of Salem (which I have only JUST got back into because of my performance in this game.), Not sure why there is a claim from Frostings that I am potentially faking the "new" card
So Frostings, would you be willing to elaborate on why you think I am actually not new? I'd be sure as hell interested to see why.
Maybe he's just avoiding outing any more connections at this point u.u
All he keeps talking about is "The outcome if im lynched" instead of scumhunting or elaborating on his Hika scumread.
I would want to hear more from Jess but im 100% sure i cant read her even if she posted more.
I want to hear more from abraker tho.
B1rd looks town.
All he keeps talking about is "The outcome if im lynched" instead of scumhunting or elaborating on his Hika scumread.
I would want to hear more from Jess but im 100% sure i cant read her even if she posted more.
I want to hear more from abraker tho.
B1rd looks town.
Sakura wrote:
I want to hear more from abraker tho.
Sorry, was busy for majority of the day. I am currently catching up to everything and compiling a summary of this for easu analysis, I will be able to give thoughts on this in an about hour.B1rd wrote:
I'm annoyed at abraker and jess for not posting much.
Oh idk. Maybe thisDawnsday wrote:
So Frostings, would you be willing to elaborate on why you think I am actually not new? I'd be sure as hell interested to see why.
Dawnsday wrote:
Meh it's my first maf game what're ya gonna hold me to, I'm a tad nervy I get that's indicative but this is by no means the be all and end all (as is proven by my Role PM). I sheeped mostly for vote pressure, I'm not gonna bother unvoting (even tho I've considered) till I have someone else in mind, also if I unvoted now it just looks like im panicking to remove heat which just makes my case even worse.
Damn now I wish I can delete that seeing with how badly my brain glitched right now. Let me fix that post with this:
You claim that you are new to the mafia game, but you demonstrate knowledge of how the game works in this post:
So how are you new to the game?
You claim that you are new to the mafia game, but you demonstrate knowledge of how the game works in this post:
Can somebody explain the L-2 stuff to me, because even after reading the first 3 posts, still have no idea what mechanics that entails. You seem to know. Therefore you know more about mafia than me and a played a few mafia games before on the Tuuba forums. B1rd can vouch for me. Though there was no L-# stuff there, this does shows you kinda know what's upDawnsday wrote:
Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.
Here you demonstrate that you know the implications of early alignment in the game. You also admit that this is not your first game.Dawnsday wrote:
Beeboy protected me in the face of Sakura calling my going along with the Mason thing sus, this is would be an incredibly weird move for maf as the early confusion makes a nice snowballing target for accusations, instead he opted to bring up meta about the facts from his previous mason falseclaims and made my own arguments for me which is obviously anti beneficial since the confusion which could lead to a mislynch (since this is my first recorded game on the osuforums), it'd simply be easier for him to leave it to me and hope I make a flawed newby argument and get myself voted up a bunch.
Idk how that is different. I mean idk how that game works either, but judging by the previous 2, I take it not too different.Dawnsday wrote:
Closest thing I've played to Mafia is Town of Salem (which I have only JUST got back into because of my performance in this game.), Not sure why there is a claim from Frostings that I am potentially faking the "new" card
So how are you new to the game?
Also what was the mason joke you ran with in the beginning? Why run with the joke if you are new? I wouldn't even know why or how a new player would know what a mason is to think running with it.
Sakura, if you are not joining the bandwagon, please defend Dawnsday.
Just so everybody know I am requesting Sakura to defend Dawnsday because they are the only 2 with an open townread. Even if it was an early baseless read, at least then I can update the status if changed.
First of all, a vote from me would equal to a lynch.abraker wrote:
Sakura, if you are not joining the bandwagon, please defend Dawnsday.
Second of all, i want to get more reads before deciding where to vote.
On another note to respond to your earlier question L-X means Lynch minus X which means that X more votes are required to lynch the player.
No need to vote. Simply declaring a scumread would sufficeSakura wrote:
First of all, a vote from me would equal to a lynch.
-[Jess]-, why is Beeboy123 a townie?
Btw i like the data you're piling up, it'll be useful, but it's useless if you don't know how to use it.
Also my initial Dawn read was a reaction test, which was piled together with frosty and bee, after i got nothing from the reaction test the only ones i remained with a townread on were bee and frosty.
These posts make a reference to that:
I simply have a hard time reading new players which is why im heavily interrogating and trying to figure out his motives.
Also my initial Dawn read was a reaction test, which was piled together with frosty and bee, after i got nothing from the reaction test the only ones i remained with a townread on were bee and frosty.
These posts make a reference to that:
Sakura wrote:
My 3 straight up townreads in general were pretty much rxn testing but most people ignored it, and i already solidified a townread on you due to something else so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sakura wrote:
Hika's not off the wagon :V
Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown
No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.
Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
He's not a scumread either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯abraker wrote:
No need to vote. Simply declaring a scumread would sufficeSakura wrote:
First of all, a vote from me would equal to a lynch.
I simply have a hard time reading new players which is why im heavily interrogating and trying to figure out his motives.
You also seem to have missed my B1rd townread :V
I did. Which post?Sakura wrote:
You also seem to have missed my B1rd townread :V
Sakura wrote:
Maybe he's just avoiding outing any more connections at this point u.u
All he keeps talking about is "The outcome if im lynched" instead of scumhunting or elaborating on his Hika scumread.
I would want to hear more from Jess but im 100% sure i cant read her even if she posted more.
I want to hear more from abraker tho.
B1rd looks town.
I don't recall saying bboy was town?
If I did, forgive me, I just don't recall saying that @ab
If I did, forgive me, I just don't recall saying that @ab
I can vouch that indeed abraker is a master of graphs and flowcharts. @Sakura, I'm interested to know why you don't have a scumread on Dawnsday, because so far there's been a lot of red flags, at least in my opinion.
Fair enough.Frostings wrote:
I voted Dawnsday because his posts up to my vote on him were all commentary with little analysis and initiative to find scum
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him
Oh also @abraker, I like your analysis but i'd also like to know your conclusions and stances.
@B1rd: There's a lot of false positives that tend to occur, I'm tired of mislynches happening due to them, you probably havent noticed since most of my playstyle change due to it happened with my Alt in MS, but nowadays i dont really do much of a scumhunt as opposed to a townhunt, and while there's still potential people that could be scum i tend to not pursue something hard.
I mean my last game on there i did that to bee for like half the game and then he flipped town and i got demotivated and got hit by Apathy.
@B1rd: There's a lot of false positives that tend to occur, I'm tired of mislynches happening due to them, you probably havent noticed since most of my playstyle change due to it happened with my Alt in MS, but nowadays i dont really do much of a scumhunt as opposed to a townhunt, and while there's still potential people that could be scum i tend to not pursue something hard.
I mean my last game on there i did that to bee for like half the game and then he flipped town and i got demotivated and got hit by Apathy.
There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
[img]Oh%20also%20@abraker,%20I%20like%20your%20analysis%20but%20i'd%20also%20like%20to%20know%20your%20conclusions%20and%20stances.[/img]I listed all events in readable form but now need to put it in a mathematical context so I can deduce things. Sneak peak at the event list I am making. Might delay my conclusions tomorrow since it's getting late. But might get around posting it today.
So far I quickly glanced at the obvious data and concluded some inconsistencies and/or anomalies with you and with Beeboy123. As I result, I threw two posts out to get answers. That's all I have so far.
So far I quickly glanced at the obvious data and concluded some inconsistencies and/or anomalies with you and with Beeboy123. As I result, I threw two posts out to get answers. That's all I have so far.
jfc why did that come out like that
Oh I did img instead of quote
she is totally playing different imoB1rd wrote:
There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
it's not like it's too bad but she's acting paranoid tbh.
what is thatabraker wrote:
Sneak peak at the event list I am making
town
abraker
nulltown
b1rd
REdo
sakura
suspicious
hika
dawnsday
null
jess
beeboy
Here are my reads
Hika is suspicious if Dawnsday flips town, because I've seen her pull L-1 at the first opportunity multiple times as scum
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
abraker
nulltown
b1rd
REdo
sakura
suspicious
hika
dawnsday
null
jess
beeboy
Here are my reads
Hika is suspicious if Dawnsday flips town, because I've seen her pull L-1 at the first opportunity multiple times as scum
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
B1rd would disagreeFrostings wrote:
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
keep it in mind
Pending proof from previous mafia gamesHika wrote:
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
Eh i dunno, i've seen scum do a lot of work to look town, Prolly not a newbie, but I'll reserve my judgement for when i see what conclusions he gets from the data.Frostings wrote:
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I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
You can wait until I bother getting on a computer. @ab
Granted i've never seen scum focus so much effort towards looking town on osu! #SiteMeta ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But so far all abraker has is IIoA until he does something with it
But so far all abraker has is IIoA until he does something with it
Also frostings I'm disappointed you're seriously using trivial reasons for someone being town.
He always makes flowcharts. Don't let your guard down against abraker, he's pretty deadly in that he has the same sort of robot-like methodology whether he's town or scum.
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
Isn't that exactly why.Hika wrote:
Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
Although probably for different reasons than frosty.
Speaking of reads and pushes, do you have any other scumreads?
Ok nvm i misread something.
Regardless i dont see it impossible for this to be a bus, but slightly unlikely.
And that's even if Dawn flips scum.
Dunno why you not being the hammer vote would excempt you from being scum if Dawn flips town, nor why you not pushing it hard would also excempt you when literally almost everyone and their mother is scumreading him.
Regardless i dont see it impossible for this to be a bus, but slightly unlikely.
And that's even if Dawn flips scum.
Dunno why you not being the hammer vote would excempt you from being scum if Dawn flips town, nor why you not pushing it hard would also excempt you when literally almost everyone and their mother is scumreading him.
it's just weird how frostings always, by default, reads me as scum.
And I'm not being funny, it's just weird.
And I'm not being funny, it's just weird.
Also, I'm going to bed, compiling my reads 2morro around 8pm EST
Oh I'm sorry I meant adding to that in terms of quick hammer but it doesn't apply here so I'm not sure why I even said that last part
But my post about frostings mean smth.
But my post about frostings mean smth.
Going to bed. Will be around 7pm EST
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
clear up my mind now
He acts in the RVS stage cause this end quickly by claiming mason.
so I read him to null-scum.
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town
I never want to hammer Dawn since I don't hammer it after I awake since I feel uneasy about voting him
I just want to look at his defend of those scummy posts.
but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@everyone Why none of you guy think Dawn maybe is town?
I never said that He is town.Why this lead you think?abraker wrote:
-[Jess]-, why is Beeboy123 a townie?
He acts in the RVS stage cause this end quickly by claiming mason.
so I read him to null-scum.
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town
Call me Jess.I live in GMT+8 and have lot of RL workabraker wrote:
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
I never want to hammer Dawn since I don't hammer it after I awake since I feel uneasy about voting him
I just want to look at his defend of those scummy posts.
but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@everyone Why none of you guy think Dawn maybe is town?
Read:
town(almost):abraker,Frosty
nulltown:b1rd,redo
null:Sakura,Hika
town(almost):abraker,Frosty
nulltown:b1rd,redo
null:Sakura,Hika
Alright I slept 14 hours and now I'm having a bath. I will catch up sufficiently when I'm back, I did have a sneak peek and L-Number simply means that Lynch minus number abraker, I know this because I've had a quick dig around mafiascum forums to see what potential other roles are in this game. Me knowing terminology isn't that far fetched.
Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.
Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.