This is a reference to a time when I quickhammered in a game 4 years ago and Sakura gave me shit for it.
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Sure, not a quick hammer, but I can certainly see the reasoning for a scum to vote onto me and just go with the current flavor of the day bandwagon. It's not entirely unlikely and seeing as how the bandwagon seems virtually no signs of stopping...
I think nobody's gonna say it, so I will.
If you were town, you would at least try to search scum in a more productive way than you just did, that is: "woo I think scum's in the wagon that's voting me". You're incredibly self-centered in a game where you have to communicate with other people in order to find the bad guys, because that's even what your Role PM should be telling you. I gave you more than 12 hours to try thinking how to defend yourself, but you did literally nothing with the fact that you're getting voted, except for a weak try to defend yourself. Yourself.
I must note here that I agree with beeboy saying that the act of self-defense is not alignment-inducing. But the difference is that a town player should be trying to defend himself by searching scum. You do contribute to the game, but in a non-constructive way.
You're scum.
If you were town, you would at least try to search scum in a more productive way than you just did, that is: "woo I think scum's in the wagon that's voting me". You're incredibly self-centered in a game where you have to communicate with other people in order to find the bad guys, because that's even what your Role PM should be telling you. I gave you more than 12 hours to try thinking how to defend yourself, but you did literally nothing with the fact that you're getting voted, except for a weak try to defend yourself. Yourself.
I must note here that I agree with beeboy saying that the act of self-defense is not alignment-inducing. But the difference is that a town player should be trying to defend himself by searching scum. You do contribute to the game, but in a non-constructive way.
You're scum.
ya live ya learn, guess my args were flimmy and i did get distracted from the actual town agenda. What can ya do. I'll guess I'm being lynched and accept that fact and move on for a better game sometime in the future once I'm more experienced. GGWP. Interesting experience.
Anyway for those still even remotely bothered with my reads:
Still scumread on Hika
null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
nulltown b1rd sakura frostings
townread beeboy
Anyway for those still even remotely bothered with my reads:
Still scumread on Hika
null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
nulltown b1rd sakura frostings
townread beeboy
So you unvoted your scumread?
Oh wow you dug yourself into a hole dude
Vote: Dawn
You literally went from "im not unvoting hika just coz i dont want to look bad" to "im scumreading hika but im unvoting her"
Btw he's at L-1 for anyone that cares.
Yeah please don't hammer guys. I will vote your ass out if you do.
Soooo not helping your case, dawn
Soooo not helping your case, dawn
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Dawn is null-scum.If he don't defend about his action.
OkrEdo wrote:
@abraker, Jess: step your game up.
Dawn is null-scum.If he don't defend about his action.
@Dawn Any thing you want to say about?
or I will hammer after I wake up
or I will hammer after I wake up
rEdo wrote:
@abraker, Jess: step your game up.
you want me to say something specific?Dawnsday wrote:
null jess abraker cuz posting is so slow.
Yes, yes there isFrostings wrote:
Wait there's someone named abraker in our game?
?___?
There is not much to gather from the first day and everybody else is doing such a great job triggering everybody, I don't even need to do anything.rEdo wrote:
abraker is a lurker so far. Null.
Instincts tell me to vote Dawn. So I did. And I believe I am correct to do so judging to his response from before. Now I wait till the second day to draw conclusions
Please dont edit your posts.
Shit you say that as you ninja me editing my post.Sakura wrote:
Please dont edit your posts.
Oh no, i read your post and when i came here again it had more text, you can just preview if you need to add new stuff, but if you post you're not allowed to edit it anymore.
Will keep in mindSakura wrote:
Oh no, i read your post and when i came here again it had more text, you can just preview if you need to add new stuff, but if you post you're not allowed to edit it anymore.
ya take the time to read the rules
you could get MK'd if you don't
you could get MK'd if you don't
From my experience scum doesn't play that simplyDawnsday wrote:
Also since I'm L-2 I'm guessing potentially 1 scum has a vote on me already since I could just be hammered and then have scum either feign ignorance to L-# or just agree with the already stupidly high sus. Woo, go town.
They don't have as much an incentive to quickly get rid of town than making themselves look innocent. Depends a bit on the scum players of course, but I will give the benefit of the doubt they are experienced
It's more likely wagons form with town players voting scummy players.
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abraker wrote:
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Rules wrote:
4.4) Editing your post is grounds for an immediate modkill. Don't do it. PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
First and last warning to everyone: never edit your posts, that's one of the worst things you could do on a mafia game. Next offender will recieve a modkill.
Votecount 1.3
Dawnsday [4] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika (L-1)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Dawnsday, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Dawnsday [4] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika (L-1)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [4] - Dawnsday, Sakura, -[Jess]-, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Deadline for Day 1 is Sunday, February 19th, 10:30 UTC.
So Dawn why do you think Hika is scum?
Also why do you want to give up?
Also why do you want to give up?
Jess don't hammer I want Dawn to roleclaim at the very least.
I also want to know what everyone off the wagon (Hika, Sakura B1rd) to tell me what there thoughts on the wagon are.
Like idk why no one else sees how odd it is that there is literally 0 people against this lynch happening.
I also want to know what everyone off the wagon (Hika, Sakura B1rd) to tell me what there thoughts on the wagon are.
Like idk why no one else sees how odd it is that there is literally 0 people against this lynch happening.
Hika's not off the wagon :V
Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown
No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.
Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown
No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.
Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
I mean can you find me a game where scum was lynched day 1 with literally 0 opposition be my guest but I have personally never seen something like that. I have seen people make that argument before but I have never actually experienced a game where scum was just outright lynched for free.
I asked him about his Hika read because I want to engage with him because I do think there is a really good chance Dawnsday is town.
I asked him about his Hika read because I want to engage with him because I do think there is a really good chance Dawnsday is town.
Also the vote count has an error in it which is why I said that lol.
@mod swap the names of hika and dawnsday please.
@mod swap the names of hika and dawnsday please.
oh yeah, it has Hika as not voting when Hika's voting Dawnsday.
I was asking a serious question btw about if you have actually ever played or seen a game where scum has been lynched with 0 opposition.
I'm sorry guys, I was napping. I'm going back to sleep because I'm extremely tired.
I don't feel like we all can hammer right now so please take time discussing reads as far as it goes right now.
I'll most definitely tell you that I'm voting him because he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.
He also says I'm scummy but he removed his vote off of me. Also I am clearly voting him, not OMGUS though.
Ask me questions and I can get back to them.
I don't feel like we all can hammer right now so please take time discussing reads as far as it goes right now.
I'll most definitely tell you that I'm voting him because he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.
He also says I'm scummy but he removed his vote off of me. Also I am clearly voting him, not OMGUS though.
Ask me questions and I can get back to them.
Might as well make use of the time I have left, the zero opposition bandwagon is entirely expected, I did some incredibly braindead things and scum know how to punish that, fair play on their half.
I don't feel like we all can hammer right now so please take time discussing reads as far as it goes right now.Yes, because this would benefit you as I (as the newbie) have made such stupid plays that read wise, Me being scum is a perfectly acceptable notion. You then get to play the "Oh but I didn't want to hammer, I was looking for reads before we finished it!" card and it's your get out of jail free.
I'll most definitely tell you that I'm voting him because he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.Not only will this look stupid if I am lynched but you're also limiting the read. Go back further than just my "last few posts" I implore you any townies watching this. I'll admit, I played like a bonobo straight up but limiting your reads to the posts I have made recently seems very counter intuitive, esp after you have made the claim you are wanting to spend time discussing reads.
He also says I'm scummy but he removed his vote off of me.I removed my role as you're only my scumread in this given situation, I'm looking to hopefully push for easing of pressure for a portion of time. I think reads need to be readjusted and it needs to happen in a short timespan.
how am I limiting the read pls explain?!
I've told you all my conf reads too.
I've told you all my conf reads too.
I removed my role as you're only my scumread in this given situation, I'm looking to hopefully push for easing of pressure for a portion of time. I think reads need to be readjusted and it needs to happen in a short timespan.Meant to say I removed my vote, sorry I've been up a while now
There are some people literally voting you from your first interaction with them (or no interaction even).
Please don't target me when you should be defending your behind rn!
Please don't target me when you should be defending your behind rn!
Also if you think someone is scum, you put your vote on them 
simple as that
simple as thathow am I limiting the read pls explain?!
he's clearly anti town from his last few posts.
last few posts. panicking survivalistic townie, limiting me down to "anti town" from my reactionary posts.
At this point I've defended my behind and done myself no justice. Beeboy has tried to stand up for me and hey I respect that so thanks a bunch my man. If I'm lynched and conf townie (:d) I'm hard pushing my town agenda now. Will me making more flimsy claims for myself do anything, no. Me going all out and giving out what I can in whatever amount I can get it benefits town regardless of flow of the vote.
If I am lynched, I am conf townie and I've been pushing town agenda in as big a batch as I can manage and at least town has SOMETHING from me rather than just ending the day and saying "well lol he was awful"
If I am not lynched then town still gets info from me and the day !DOES NOT END! for a while now so there is plenty of time to jump back on me.
I'm going to reread this and see if I messed up my english
ok reread seems fine
and obviously needless to say, if I die and I end up being conf scum then town STILL end happy cuz "hey he was awful scum 1 down gg ez"
I love how bee talks about this being a 0 resistance wagon and he's resisting said wagon :^)
jokes aside. Yeah i do remember a few games that it has happened tho there's like only one that i have burned in my mind due to how scum was lynched D1 easily, then we proceeded to fail to lynch the other 2 and scum won >_>
jokes aside. Yeah i do remember a few games that it has happened tho there's like only one that i have burned in my mind due to how scum was lynched D1 easily, then we proceeded to fail to lynch the other 2 and scum won >_>
That being said in the last Dawn posts he never explained his Hika scumread, and continued to just AtE