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Hikomori

840 posts

Joined November 2015

Hikomori 2017-01-20T23:31:13+00:00

no pense que iba para ranked esto xd

anaelisa121

8 posts

Joined February 2015

anaelisa121 2017-01-21T04:58:05+00:00

O mapa tá muito divertido, eu joguei e AMEI! Arrasou, querida. BEIJOS DE LUZ!

Por que eu não ganhei accuracy com ele?

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-01-22T06:27:47+00:00

Hobbes2's Hard
Could use AR 7 as the BPM is relatively low and the whole thing is super chill. Besides, this would fit better iwth the spread. Implemented this change, although I did it for the map itself not the spread. AR is a property of the maps, not the spread imo
00:29:545 (7) - covering the downbeat under a stack does not feel quite right. I would rather space it properly to make it more noticeable. Not sure on this one. It's not actually a downbeat, just a clap, also spacing this normally doesn't really fit the music here imo.
00:50:891 (1) - this is the only slider of such a shape, which makes it stand out in a a rather negative way. Perhaps, you could try to add more of such sliders as to keep things consistent. Fixed this shape, its definitely out of place.

That is quite a huge jump in terms of difficulty, from Normal with little to no 1/4s to intense 1/4 jumps. In this case, it is not the BPM that matters, but rather the relative difficulty increase. Perhaps, Gero would like to explain his decision of bubbling this and it's just me misinterpreting the spread.

imo the spread isn't perfect, but I think it's rankable. All 1/1, to some 1/2, to 1/4 I think should be okay. I guess the thing really pushing the limit are the spaced out sections, but I really like them for how they emphasize the specific sounds they are mapped to. I can certainly nerf those patterns if I need to, hopefully I won't have to. Maybe another opinion on the spread would be good.

Thanks for the mod, Bakari.

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139,52,69064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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464,110,69785,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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307,208,70362,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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247,276,70939,2,0,P|298:300|319:304,1,47.5,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
334,364,71227,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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302,357,74400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
302,357,74545,2,0,P|354:332|382:281,1,95,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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100,154,76131,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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riffy

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riffy 2017-01-22T06:46:05+00:00

Let's hear from Gero/ezek, I am curious to know what they think.

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ZekeyHache 2017-01-22T09:08:54+00:00

On the spread concern, I share the same thoughts as Hobbes2, however, I added some more notes to Normal to make it a bit more dense so the spread feels more appropriate. Also, the addition of many 1/4 on Hobbes2's diff is fine because the BPM is low and doesn't make those way too challenging, I'm totally fine with it~

Updated~

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riffy 2017-01-22T09:36:10+00:00

We added an alternative way of spelling neigbourhood to the tags.Also set STR to 2. The spread seems to be okay, it's rhythm heavy on N-H and aim heavy on H-I, which kind of makes it balanced. Metadata has been addressed twice in the posts above.

Rebubbled.

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Aurele 2017-01-23T14:02:57+00:00

Ranked!

jk, bye.

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2017-01-23T17:53:09+00:00

General.
00:00:698 - 00:01:852 - 00:03:006 - I'm not really sure why you've ignored the drum beats of here in your hitsounds. They just sound the same with the other one you've expressed with a hitsound.

Normal.
00:13:679 (5) - You were using a stack concept on this distinct sound. However at the similar part of the song which appeared at 00:32:141 (4), you didn't. Consistency issue. Also, it would've been better if you could express this sound with some hitsound.
00:41:660 (1) - This is slightly weaker than 00:42:814 (3). I doubt if using a same slider concept accurately reflects that aspect.

Hard.
00:53:343 (1) - Why is this starting at a blue tick while there aren't much stuff to support this rhythm in the song? Well listening more carefully lead me to a conclusion that you were trying the express the vocals, but at least your intention didn't felt to be delivered intuitively. Might consider removing 00:53:198 (7) so the vocal beat of 00:52:910 (6) will indicate the following rhythm is also clearly a vocal.
01:11:227 (7) - Uh however, I feel this to be overmapped.
01:18:295 (1) - You definitely forgot to lower the volume at the end.

Insane.
00:19:593 (4,5,6) - You will want to make the spacing of (4,5) less jumpy. If you look at the actual spacings of (4,5,6), they are highly similar. However you'll know that the rhythms are 1/4 and 1/2 each, which is different. Using the same spacing concept at a different rhythm choice wasn't really indicating the rhythms properly in your mapping, and you'll want an adjustment here.
01:27:814 - Volume is reducing starting from here. What do you think about giving some difference in your mappings? Such as, removing jumps like 01:28:679 (6,7) - etc what you've presented before, since the music is less intense. Things like 01:31:564 (5,6,7) felt too much in such a quiet section.

Feels not so bad. But since I'm not really a fan of the 1/4 slider overlaps in Hobbes diff, or the constant 1/4 jumps in Insane, guess I'm just leaving a nomination to another BN.

Feel free to get a rebubble from Bakari.

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Izzywing 2017-01-23T21:36:12+00:00

Hard.
00:53:343 (1) - Why is this starting at a blue tick while there aren't much stuff to support this rhythm in the song? Well listening more carefully lead me to a conclusion that you were trying the express the vocals, but at least your intention didn't felt to be delivered intuitively. Might consider removing 00:53:198 (7) so the vocal beat of 00:52:910 (6) will indicate the following rhythm is also clearly a vocal. I originally had it without 7 but it made this very weird to listen to and play since it's skipping the beat there which is also a downbeat. i prefer the current rhythm as it follows the vocals while still maintaining the player's rhythm.
01:11:227 (7) - Uh however, I feel this to be overmapped. I removed the clickable circle and made the 1/4 slider a reverse instead.
01:18:295 (1) - You definitely forgot to lower the volume at the end. Fixed

Thanks for the mod Sonnyc!

http://pastebin.com/raw/mTtf83qR

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ZekeyHache 2017-01-23T22:05:11+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
General.
00:00:698 - 00:01:852 - 00:03:006 - I'm not really sure why you've ignored the drum beats of here in your hitsounds. They just sound the same with the other one you've expressed with a hitsound. I thought it would't sound good, but after actually trying it, it does sound fine, so yee, added~

Normal.
00:13:679 (5) - You were using a stack concept on this distinct sound. However at the similar part of the song which appeared at 00:32:141 (4), you didn't. Consistency issue. Also, it would've been better if you could express this sound with some hitsound. k, applied consistency on that particular sound
00:41:660 (1) - This is slightly weaker than 00:42:814 (3). I doubt if using a same slider concept accurately reflects that aspect. true, fixed~

Insane.
00:19:593 (4,5,6) - You will want to make the spacing of (4,5) less jumpy. If you look at the actual spacings of (4,5,6), they are highly similar. However you'll know that the rhythms are 1/4 and 1/2 each, which is different. Using the same spacing concept at a different rhythm choice wasn't really indicating the rhythms properly in your mapping, and you'll want an adjustment here. omg, this is a big mistake of mine ;w; idk how no one noticed it before, fixed~
01:27:814 - Volume is reducing starting from here. What do you think about giving some difference in your mappings? Such as, removing jumps like 01:28:679 (6,7) - etc what you've presented before, since the music is less intense. Things like 01:31:564 (5,6,7) felt too much in such a quiet section. I like the concept, applied!

Feels not so bad. But since I'm not really a fan of the 1/4 slider overlaps in Hobbes diff, or the constant 1/4 jumps in Insane, guess I'm just leaving a nomination to another BN.

Feel free to get a rebubble from Bakari.

Thanks for the check! It was helpful ^w^

Updated~

riffy

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riffy 2017-01-24T05:27:31+00:00

Gero wrote:
Gero wrote:

~ Rebubbled ~

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Ashton 2017-02-01T01:07:29+00:00

crap, I landed in the wrong neighborhood...

Time to pay up I guess!

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vipto 2017-02-01T02:52:45+00:00

oh cool someone mapped this

ah and just to avoid the dq after this goes ranked, artist name should be SHOKK青, according to his shoundcloud!
dont forget to get the romanised artist right.

https://soundcloud.com/shokkbutt

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ZekeyHache 2017-02-01T03:05:30+00:00

vipto wrote:
oh cool someone mapped this

ah and just to avoid the dq after this goes ranked, artist name should be SHOKK青, according to his shoundcloud!
dont forget to get the romanised artist right.

https://soundcloud.com/shokkbutt

I was having issues with that (rominization) bc KwaN wasn't able to give me a clear answer, then the artist ignored me when I asked directly :v Later I asked another osu! member for help on that but also I got ignored, not mentioning that person's name just to avoid drama~

After that mess, Sieg was able to find somewhere where that artist explicitly says that he/she goes by "Shokk" as you see here. This was already mentioned, so pls read all the previous posts next time you find a situation like this~ Thank for trying to help anyway c:

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vipto 2017-02-01T05:58:32+00:00

ezek wrote:
vipto wrote:
oh cool someone mapped this

ah and just to avoid the dq after this goes ranked, artist name should be SHOKK青, according to his shoundcloud!
dont forget to get the romanised artist right.

https://soundcloud.com/shokkbutt
I was having issues with that (rominization) bc KwaN wasn't able to give me a clear answer, then the artist ignored me when I asked directly :v Later I asked another osu! member for help on that but also I got ignored, not mentioning that person's name just to avoid drama~

After that mess, Sieg was able to find somewhere where that artist explicitly says that he/she goes by "Shokk" as you see here. This was already mentioned, so pls read all the previous posts next time you find a situation like this~ Thank for trying to help anyway c:

well fair enough but i'd say if the artist releases his music under a certain alias on their soundcloud or whatever it should be taken as their main artist name.
i would at least capitalize it, as seen on the soundcloud, even if you're not going for the chinese symbol (i think?).

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ZekeyHache 2017-02-01T06:06:26+00:00

I have to go with the name the way it was mentioned by the artist on that screenshot, otherwise I would have to go with the capitals and the symbol because I can't modify what has been written by the artist, and such thing would lead to the romanization issue again. That's why the current metadata is the best option~

The weird symbol is on tags btw~

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vipto 2017-02-01T07:50:05+00:00

i dont think some random screenshot is the best source for metadata, especially when there is a soundcloud account on which the artist releases music very frequently. i'm personally not that keen on metadata but it seems really obvious here.

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ZekeyHache 2017-02-01T08:35:36+00:00

It's not "random", it's the artist saying he/she goes by that name. This only goes for the artist name and the song's title is taken from soundcloud. Now, I'm gonna re-explain this clearly and hopefully satisfy you. So initially I was using the artist name as it is in souncloud; however, that required a romanized version of it, so I sent a pm to our favorite awesome metadata girl, KwaN. After taking a look into it, KwaN told me that romanization was up to the artist since she wasn't sure about something in that symbol/letter being either japanese or chinese and she suggested me to contact the artist. So I personally sent a pm to the artist on soundclud and I litearally waited for a month (and now even more time than that has passed and still no answer v:). So after that month passed I informed KwaN about the situation and she suggested me to ask someone else who is also good at metadata (sry I really don't wanna mention that person), so I sent a pm to that person and I got ignored as well. Some weeks later I asked for help on discord and Sieg found some place, I think it was the artist's twitch, where he/she explicitly says "I go by Shokk"; just like you saw in the screenshot. So since there's no weird symbol, there's also no need for romanization as well~ I can't use all caps just like in soundcloud and ignore the symbol because that would be altering the source for metadata because it's not exactly as it is stated in there or the screenshot, so I have to go by one of the two sources for the artist name, that's why I'm using "Shokk" and there is nothing wrong with it~ I would be open to make any change IF KwaN herself tells me there's an actual change to be made, but for now, this is the best metadata.

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Sonnyc 2017-02-01T08:39:35+00:00

And where did you get the screenshot? Just showing a screenshot itself without the original link makes it quite "random". If it was from the artist's twitch, attaching the twitch url would be great.

Anyways, at least both the youtube and soundcloud accounts are "SHOKK青". Whatever the romanization for the last chinese character is, it's a capital letter,,

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Izzywing 2017-02-01T08:42:57+00:00

The screenshot is from here

It's the same shokk (Shokk Bloo or whatever shows up on their soundcloud too)

IDK if this is any relevant but 青 means blue in vietnamese, so the romanization of Shokk青 is probably Shokk Bloo

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Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2017-02-01T08:43:56+00:00

"SHOKKBloo"

青 means blue. guess we've got the romanization.

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vipto 2017-02-01T08:46:25+00:00

i downloaded the song from his soundcloud here https://soundcloud.com/shokkbutt/ruining-songs-forever

the metadata of the mp3 file read "SHOKK♥" which would at least suggest a capitalization.
this is literally what it has been released and your metadata should reflect that.

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ZekeyHache 2017-02-01T08:48:01+00:00

Gonna look into this later, I'm tired rn, thank you for your input all of.you~

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Izzywing 2017-02-01T13:36:21+00:00

Asked him on twitch, here's what he said. Current metadata should be fine then.

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Sonnyc 2017-02-01T13:40:00+00:00

lol cool

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2017-02-01T14:05:47+00:00

Oh

Ashton

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Ashton 2017-02-03T00:16:56+00:00

"two to one" are in the tags?

I know that it's in the song but you might aswell just put all ofthe lyrics in there if your going to do that, right?

even so, wouldn't it make sense to put three in the tags as well, as the vocalist says "two to the one from the one to the three

It just seems super unnecessary

also in the hardest diff 01:12:237 (3) - why isn't the spacing here boosted if you've done it 01:00:698 (3) - here 01:07:622 (3) - here and 01:15:698 (10) - here,

stopping 01:32:429 (1) - the song right here feels really awkward, I would stop it 01:34:737 - here

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2017-02-03T06:58:49+00:00

CanadianBaka wrote:
"two to one" are in the tags?

I know that it's in the song but you might aswell just put all ofthe lyrics in there if your going to do that, right?

even so, wouldn't it make sense to put three in the tags as well, as the vocalist says "two to the one from the one to the three

It just seems super unnecessary yes, it seems super unnecessary, people may just wanna type "two to the one" :v and that already works fine (bc "the" is already in the title)

also in the hardest diff 01:12:237 (3) - why isn't the spacing here boosted if you've done it 01:00:698 (3) - here 01:07:622 (3) - here and 01:15:698 (10) - here, uh? what r u talking about? I did boost the spacing at 1.7x like the others :/

stopping 01:32:429 (1) - the song right here feels really awkward, I would stop it 01:34:737 - here personal preferences sir

Thanks for the check anyway! ^^