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Pashune
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Joined April 2009
Pashune
I tried a lot of those basic practice things online; they seemed okay but I'd lose interest way too easily, so I downloaded an audiobook for learning Japanese.. but it only got me so far, and by that, I only mean some very basic sentence structure and some vocabulary.

By now, I've already forgotten most of what I learned some months back. :(

I'm just gonna wait until I can either find some classes on it or just find a friend who knows it pretty well. The books and the audio aren't helping me.. :cry:

Unless you guys have some better ideas..
Firo Prochainezo
2,140 posts
Joined June 2010
Firo Prochainezo
When I was more younger I was really into Japanese and I learned a lot from friends, books and stuff like that (I never used anime for learning Japanese because it's stupid, really).
Now I'm not interested in Japanese anymore because I don't see any useful ways to use it in California.
Pokebis
2,047 posts
Joined April 2008
Pokebis

Pashune wrote:

Unless you guys have some better ideas..
Pirate shows and books that teach Japanese and then talk to people streaming on Nico Nico Douga over Skype.
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
I learn japanese by myself and I'm on a lvl where I can talk with japanese people a little bit/well.
It's really easy for me to learn jpn because I'm from serbia and there we have maybe 20%~40% words/sentences who are exactly the same like in jpn. Example:
jpn: sou da ne or kakkoii (vocal exact the same like srb)
srb: sto da ne or kakoe (vocal exact the same like jpn)
So I don't have to learn so much. Well, but it's also because I have a huge interest to this language.

I was also a short time in a japanese course. That helped me a lot to improve my grammar.
And now I'm gonna go this year to Japan, so I can use it and learn more about the language.
Atm I know 150 Kanjis.

僕の日本語は今ノーグーです。でもいつか僕の日本語は良いです！ｗ
日本語を話すのは大好き～！

みんな・さん、またね！
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
I'm currently taking a beginner course in school right now....my midterm's this Friday :S


For those looking for learning material, here's a romaji version of the textbook I use for class (this one's an older edition though) http://fliiby.com/file/39936/x4jm86ofzz.html.
Daru
osu!painter
866 posts
Joined August 2008
Daru
smart.fm is great for learning your voacb.

Using anime to learn Japanese isn't necessarily bad, but it shouldn't be your own tool. Obviously, watching shows if any kind in a language that you are learning will help.

That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
Firo Prochainezo
2,140 posts
Joined June 2010
Firo Prochainezo
Glee
oh god.
Pokebis
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Joined April 2008
Pokebis

Daru wrote:

That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
Sad thing is, many Americans do talk like they talk in the shows. :-/
That being said, I've seen many people criticized by Japanese people for "talking like anime characters." The way they talk is generally quite different.
Sekuyi
181 posts
Joined December 2009
Sekuyi
Does anyone here speak/learn Japanese?

ye, trying to learn it. but not really any progress since i started (like 1 month ago). the only thing i can do now is reading and writing katakana. learning some kanjis atm - so many of them, damn oO. ppl say hiragana is easy...but i can't memorize them somehow -.-'

as for talking, I understand a lot of phrases - english subs ftw ;)
Kaona
494 posts
Joined August 2010
Kaona
I learn Japanese.
I have a Japanese Tutor :D
LaCreme
54 posts
Joined August 2010
LaCreme

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Hahaha, thanks. XD

At least I don't say "Baka" to everybody or anybody, or commonly at all. That'll make me feel like a total weab00. I'll focus solely on Engrish thanks. And Thai. :P
fixed it for you
[Shalon]
686 posts
Joined April 2010
[Shalon]
I want to be a good japanese-speaker,

but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
Hakeru
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Joined May 2010
Hakeru

[Shalon] wrote:

I want to be a good japanese-speaker,

but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
me too ,
i learn japanese since 6 years old ..but uh.. not much ;__;

i must start learn japanese again from 0 ... haha ..
i can speak japanese , listening , and i can read the basic sentence like ..
おはようございます
こんばんわ
こんいちわ
ごめなさい
おたんじょうびおめでとう
いただきます
etc ...

watching anime , and listening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..
minyeob
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minyeob
wow this topic still around here D:
I'm now preparing JLPT N2~
Listening is damn hard

listening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..
And I strongly disagree with this
I have listened Japanese music for 3-4 years
But real Japanese is so much different from music >_<
Faust
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Faust
I don't. Not at the moment, maybe in the future. Actually, that's quite likely.
Hakeru
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Hakeru

minyeob wrote:

wow this topic still around here D:
I'm now preparing JLPT N2~
Listening is damn hard

listening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..
And I strongly disagree with this
I have listened Japanese music for 3-4 years
But real Japanese is so much different from music >_<
ahahaha that's my method >_<;
Pokebis
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Joined April 2008
Pokebis

Hakeru Prismriver wrote:

ahahaha that's my method >_<;
And how fluent are you? I think listening to Japanese songs is a terrible way to learn the language as the syllables are generally stressed a lot differently than actual speech. Everyone who says they learn out of music either is already fluent to an extent, is talking out of their ass and likely doesn't understand a bit of the language, or is going to learn the language incorrectly.
That being said, there are some learning-aid type music that helps reinforce certain concepts in your heard, but normal Jpop and crap certainly won't do that.
-Xero-
526 posts
Joined October 2009
-Xero-
chinese is god tier!!1


actually i am interested in learning japanese, but I don't get the chance. no teachers around and i don't like learning all by myself via internet and stuff...
Xyrenus
52 posts
Joined October 2010
Xyrenus
just started learning a few words..and probably creating some incomplete sentence.. quite interesting though the language..
DjKniteX
9 posts
Joined November 2010
DjKniteX
right here, I can speak basic conversational Japanese... as well as still learning

My minor is Japanese XD

dozo yoroshiku
My1_old
372 posts
Joined August 2011
My1_old
doesnt matter if anyone complains about necroing, because i am only REFRESHING this topic...
I am learning japanese and I really want to speak it somtetime really 1337...
the beginning was that I watched some animes in japanese language and it sounded very nice so I began leanring it, was quite some years ago...
boat
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boat
I've been studying japanese as a standalone course at a univ for a while, my pronunciation is quite good but my vocabulary is rather thin.
Daru
osu!painter
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Daru
I've been studying Japanese for about a year now.
(About a half year of self-study and half year of classes with self-study)

I've spoken with some native speakers, and my Japanese is described as "Not much of an accent, grammatically correct, but weird sounding".
My vocab is rather bad (about 700 words/phrases) so I have to kinda dance around how to say certain things.
mathexpert
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mathexpert
I've been watching anime forever, but I only recently started learning Japanese. It is soooo much more fun than spanish, because I actually have interest in it. (no offense, of course!~)
boat
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boat
Spanish is a pointless language anyhow, if you only have the three generic choices of german, spanish or french, then german will be by far the most beneficial.


MUCH OFFENSE INTENDED

SICK BURN
Cyclohexane
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Cyclohexane
That hurts my feelings.
Vmx
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Vmx
Why did I choose french :( I don't understand anything and never will + I don't even want to understand it.
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

failboat wrote:

...german will be by far the most beneficial.
*dancing on the floor*

I failed in France. ;w;
I won in Japanese. :)
OzzyOzrock
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OzzyOzrock

failboat wrote:

Spanish is a pointless language anyhow, if you only have the three generic choices of german, spanish or french, then german will be by far the most beneficial.


MUCH OFFENSE INTENDED

SICK BURN
not in th U.S. at all
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

OzzyOzrock wrote:

not in th U.S. at all
Open the door, get on the floor! Everybody walk the dinosaur.
Micaela Mousiki
61 posts
Joined September 2011
Micaela Mousiki
Huh? Me? I'm studying it :D
I go to a university to assist a course once a week.
It's my second year and I'm doing fine ^^
I'm learning the conjugations at the moment but I can make some sentences.
I can use adjectives and I'm finally learning how to speak it informally.
But I need more vocabulary and kanji, so I will take care of that.
Pokebis
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Pokebis

Daru wrote:

I've spoken with some native speakers, and my Japanese is described as "Not much of an accent, grammatically correct, but weird sounding".
It might be the way you say it. I'm apparently usually too formal when I talk in other languages, but that's probably because I don't know many informal ways of saying things and I can't tell what's going to be broken or not.
That being said, I may speak too formally in English as well, but I try not too.
My1_old
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My1_old
nic3, I have to say, but I think that it makes rather fun learning it youself (like I do), coz you are not tied to times or teachers, and I like this way really
boat
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boat

My1 wrote:

nic3, I have to say, but I think that it makes rather fun learning it youself (like I do), coz you are not tied to times or teachers, and I like this way really
doing it by yourself and actually getting the same result from studying it properly at a decent course would take an incredible amount of self discipline and effort


not to mention how you barely have anyone to correct your mistakes
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Probably about 9 months now, both official classes and self study. I'm terrible at writing and speaking off the top of my head but I was always good with grammar. It's the same for German.

I like it, it's fun.
Daru
osu!painter
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Daru

Pokebis wrote:

It might be the way you say it. I'm apparently usually too formal when I talk in other languages, but that's probably because I don't know many informal ways of saying things and I can't tell what's going to be broken or not.
That being said, I may speak too formally in English as well, but I try not too.
Well, it was pointed out that I used words in a weird way or something like that. Like, I would say, "I will wait inside the bus stop," rather than, "I'll wait at the bus stop," or something like, "I arrived at class" rather than, "I got to class,", because I didn't know the word "got". I'm sure what you're saying was a part of it, but I think the main thing wrong was my word choice rather than politeness.
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki
わたし は 日本語 を すこし わかる こと が できます

Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
My1_old
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My1_old
mochiron, ii desu yo.
--
sorry but my computer is still incapable of typing kana...
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

My1 wrote:

mochiron, ii desu yo.
--
sorry but my computer is still incapable of typing kana...
Thank you!

Same here, I used a site in order to type that sentence OTL
My1_old
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My1_old
onegai URL wo ore ni tsutaetekudasai!
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

My1 wrote:

onegai URL wo ore ni tsutaetekudasai!
http://www.wandel.person.dk/japanese.html

I use this one pretty often.
But I know there is another... I'm going to find it.

EDIT: Oh! I found it!

http://gate2home.com/Japanese-Keyboard
My1_old
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My1_old
すごい!

even if this search-and-click takes a while...
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

My1 wrote:

すごい!

even if this search-and-click takes a while...
I know! :?
Daru
osu!painter
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Daru

Micaela Mousiki wrote:

わたし は 日本語 を すこし わかる こと が できます

Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
もし漢字を使えばスペースが必要じゃありませんよ。
My1_old
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My1_old
kana de kakushite kudasai, takusan no kanji wo wakaranai desu yo...
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

Daru wrote:

Micaela Mousiki wrote:

わたし は 日本語 を すこし わかる こと が できます

Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
もし漢字を使えばスペースが必要じゃありませんよ。

Hmmm... I'm not good reading kanji ^^;
But reading the bits of the sentence, It has to do with the space, right?
My1_old
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My1_old
that is something OI got too, maybe he/she wants to say that in oroginal japanese spaces arent used or something like that.

but for unsertanding I still use them...
Daru
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Daru

Micaela Mousiki wrote:

Hmmm... I'm not good reading kanji ^^;
But reading the bits of the sentence, It has to do with the space, right?
"If you're using kanji, then you don't have to put spaces in."
lit. "If (you) use kanji, then spaces are not required"

Of course, as with my previous statement, I'm not too confident in my word choice here, so it may sound weird to a native speaker.


Japanese is written with no spaces, but they're usually put in to make it easier for beginners who don't know kanji and read sentences with only hiragana/katakana, or for signs or messages written entirely in kana.
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

Daru wrote:

Micaela Mousiki wrote:

Hmmm... I'm not good reading kanji ^^;
But reading the bits of the sentence, It has to do with the space, right?
"If you're using kanji, then you don't have to put spaces in."
lit. "If (you) use kanji, then spaces are not required"

Of course, as with my previous statement, I'm not too confident in my word choice here, so it may sound weird to a native speaker.


Japanese is written with no spaces, but they're usually put in to make it easier for beginners who don't know kanji and read sentences with only hiragana/katakana, or for signs or messages written entirely in kana.
Ah! I see ^^
Thank you, I didn't know about that. Next time will write with no spaces, then.
My1_old
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My1_old

Micaela Mousiki wrote:

Daru wrote:

they're usually put in to make it easier for beginners who don't know kanji and read sentences with only hiragana/katakana, or for signs or messages written entirely in kana.
Ah! I see ^^
Thank you, I didn't know about that. Next time will write with no spaces, then.
as you see, when you wont use kanji, then you can (and if you ask me you should) use spaces coz when you are no natve speaker, it is xTremely hard to figure out where one word ends and where the other begins.

I know about and still using spaces, coz it is easier to read...
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

My1 wrote:

as you see, when you wont use kanji, then you can (and if you ask me you should) use spaces coz when you are no natve speaker, it is xTremely hard to figure out where one word ends and where the other begins.

I know about and still using spaces, coz it is easier to read...
Yeah, I usually use kanji in "watashi" or the days of the week, numbers and some other simple things like tree, river, forest, etc.
And I normally use those in a sentence, so yeah ^^

I wonder how do I say " I wish *Insert noun here* " ?
My1_old
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My1_old
not sure but you maybe can go around it with the noun "wish"=negai
hinamizawan
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hinamizawan
I learn by myself, I know higarana and katakana and also all kanji from JLPT 4 to JLPT2. At the moment trying to read all JLPT1's kanji.
I'm such a weeaboo

EDIT: I mean JLPT
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My1_old
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My1_old
JLTP??? WTF is that???
Daru
osu!painter
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Daru

Micaela Mousiki wrote:

Yeah, I usually use kanji in "watashi" or the days of the week, numbers and some other simple things like tree, river, forest, etc.
And I normally use those in a sentence, so yeah ^^

I wonder how do I say " I wish *Insert noun here* " ?
You would generally use the form:
[noun]が欲しい。
lit. want [noun].

「欲しい」is an i-adjective that modifies the noun, meaning "want". However, it's not used as a verb like in English, but as an adjective, so the actual usage is different, and it conjugates as an i-adjective.

You can also use the 「たい」ending for the stem of verbs to communicate desire to do that verb. For example, 「昼ごはんを食べたい」, where I used the 「たい」ending attached to the stem of 「食べる」 to say "I want to eat breakfast" rather than "I eat breakfast". This ending also conjugates.
My1_old
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My1_old
can you let me understand it too???
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

Daru wrote:

You would generally use the form:
[noun]が欲しい。
lit. want [noun].

「欲しい」is an i-adjective that modifies the noun, meaning "want". However, it's not used as a verb like in English, but as an adjective, so the actual usage is different, and it conjugates as an i-adjective.

You can also use the 「たい」ending for the stem of verbs to communicate desire to do that verb. For example, 「昼ごはんを食べたい」, where I used the 「たい」ending attached to the stem of 「食べる」 to say "I want to eat breakfast" rather than "I eat breakfast". This ending also conjugates.
OK! Thank you very much!
Daru
osu!painter
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Daru

My1 wrote:

can you let me understand it too???
Oh, sorry.
Here are the kanji I used:


食べる
たべる/taberu
to eat (v.)


欲しい
ほしい/hoshii
want (adj.)

犬
いぬ/inu
dog (n.)


昼ごはん
ひるごはん/hirugohan
breakfast (n.)
My1_old
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My1_old
thx
GladiOol
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GladiOol
I don't because japanese is silly
My1_old
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My1_old
DO NOT SAY THAT AGAIN!!!
awp
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Here since the beginning
awp

Daru wrote:

Oh, sorry.
Here are the kanji I used:


欲しい
ほしい/hoshii
want (adj.)

食べる
たべる/taberu
to eat (v.)

犬
いぬ/inu
dog (n.)

昼ごはん
ひるごはん/hirugohan
breakfast (n.)
I rearranged them to be in grammatical order
GladiOol
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GladiOol
I don't because japanese is silly
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

GladiOol wrote:

I don't because japanese is silly
LOL, I did expect you to say that again.
(Yummy cake btw)
My1_old
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My1_old
JAPANESE IS NOT SILLY, IT IS ONE OF THE COOLES LANGUAGES EVER, SO YOU DON'T DARE SAYING THAT AGAIN!!!
GladiOol
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GladiOol
I don't because japanese is silly
mathexpert
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mathexpert
ah~ I long for the day I will finally be able to watch anime and read manga without translation.
My1_old
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My1_old
I can already do that somehow...
I do that quite often...
Pokebis
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Pokebis

My1 wrote:

JAPANESE IS NOT SILLY, IT IS ONE OF THE COOLES LANGUAGES EVER, SO YOU DON'T DARE SAYING THAT AGAIN!!!
I cannot tell if you are being serious.
My1_old
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My1_old
I AM SERIOUS WHEN IT'S ABOUT JAPANESE
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

My1 wrote:

JAPANESE IS NOT SILLY, IT IS ONE OF THE COOLES LANGUAGES EVER, SO YOU DON'T DARE SAYING THAT AGAIN!!!

Umm...Calm down? He/She has a reason to think like that. Not good at it, perhaps?

I love when I understand a word or phrase without translation! ^^
mathexpert
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mathexpert

My1 wrote:

I AM SERIOUS WHEN IT'S ABOUT JAPANESE
~-->HARDCORE OTAKU WEEABOO<--~





j/k:p
My1_old
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My1_old
me too that's one reason why I am learning it, but when anyone even thinks about insulting the japanese language, I cant help but get angry...
@above wtf is otaku???
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

My1 wrote:

me too that's one reason why I am learning it, but when anyone even thinks about insulting the japanese language, I cant help but get angry...
@above wtf is otaku???
From what I understand an otaku is a person who is interested in anime, manga, videogames and cosplay.
Some people are proud of it, some people may take it as an offense
My1_old
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My1_old
why could that be an offense???
hinamizawan
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hinamizawan
Calling you weeaboo could be offensive, but only in the interwebz that works. Otherwise if they called you weeaboo IRL they're probably weeaboos too lol
Azure_Kite
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So, a person outside of Japan watching Anime, reading Manga, and playing JGaems/Listening to JMusic will automagically be a Weeaboo.

If it's a person WITHIN the country, who is Japanese, then they are said to be Otaku, or shut-ins.
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

Azure_Kyte wrote:

So, a person outside of Japan watching Anime, reading Manga, and playing JGaems/Listening to JMusic will automagically be a Weeaboo.

If it's a person WITHIN the country, who is Japanese, then they are said to be Otaku, or shut-ins.
I think a Weeaboo is a person who thinks that japan is the best country ever and won't pay attention unless it has to do with japan.
Reunilu
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Reunilu
(When did this become a discussion about otakus and weaboos?)

Japanese I know:

kokoro-heart
higurashi-cicada
inu-dog
neko-cat
baka-idiot (who doesn't know that?)
hakase-professor
sorewa-this is
onii-san/chan-big brother
onee-san/chan-big sister
imouto-sister
yuki-snow
gomen ne/gomen nasai-forgive me/I'm sorry
youkai-demon spirit
tenshi-angel
kawaii-cute
betsu ni-not really/nothing/it's not that
hayaku-hurry/quickly

I still need the use of english subs though, since I'm just learning japanese plus I haven't learned most of the katakana, hiragana, and kanji out there, so if I go on a japanese website (like nico nico douga because some videos are on nico nico douga aren't on youtube)I need Google Translate.
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Ephemeral
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i can read katakana and hiragana and i know a few really common kanji, but i still have issues with sentence structure :(
Micaela Mousiki
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Micaela Mousiki

Ephemeral wrote:

i can read katakana and hiragana and i know a few really common kanji, but i still have issues with sentence structure :(
Same here xD
I always have to repeat myself "the direct object goes first and then the verb" every time I have to do a sentence.

People tease me by talking to me in a chinese-like speech. And some people always confuses chinese with japanese:
"So, you study chinese?"
"Ummm...It's japanese"
"Meh, it's the same thing"

That's the coversation I usually get when someone finds out about me learning japanese.
Gorlum
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Gorlum
I used to learn japanese on university courses, but since my major is korean language, learning both languages on advanced level became a tough deal, so i gave up on learning japanese. Still, i know it on basic level and can read hiragana/katakana and few hundred kanji. :|
My1_old
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My1_old
I think that doing my way is better, coz I met a japanese person yesterday and I could start a talk very good, and there were no prblems, coz I dont think about it very much, coz I have got an instinct for this
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,963 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral
i did japanese 101 for all of ten weeks and can sort of talk in rudiments to some native speakers, so it isn't all that hard to achieve some degree of marginal fluency.

i had a discussion once with a japanese student who was learning english - we spoke for a bit about how english grammar sucks, and how english is pretty hard to learn
Ekaru
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Joined July 2008
Ekaru

Ephemeral wrote:

i had a discussion once with a japanese student who was learning english - we spoke for a bit about how english grammar sucks, and how english is pretty hard to learn
It is, really. We're the only language I can think of where native speakers often have to ask, "Uh, how do you spell that?"

Oh, and though I forgot to mention it months ago, I took the IB AB Initio exam and passed it with a 5. o/ That puts me at either N5 or N4 level. I'm not sure which.
Daru
osu!painter
866 posts
Joined August 2008
Daru

Ephemeral wrote:

i had a discussion once with a japanese student who was learning english - we spoke for a bit about how english grammar sucks, and how english is pretty hard to learn
Aye, my Japanese professor went on a tangent during lecture once about the difficult to learn English as a second language compared to learning Japanese.

The number of syllables that can be produced in English is much higher than what can be produced in Japanese, and different combinations of letters are pronounced differently depending on the word. Contrast this to the strict rigidity of the kana "alphabets" and conjugation rules in Japanese, which have a very limited amount of exceptions.

Of course, Kanji is an entirely different beast in and of itself, but even those are relatively systematic compared to English spelling and pronunciation.


I'm so glad that English was my first language.
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
うん、日本語が好き
二年前、俺の日本語の勉強が始まった
理由は日本語ゲームとアニメと漫画はすごく面白いぞ＾ー＾
My1_old
372 posts
Joined August 2011
My1_old
sou da yo, ore ni manga wa nai kedo, demo ore no nohongo no benkyou wa tabun 3nen mae ni hajimatta yo.
Azure_Kite
osu! Alumni
3,217 posts
Joined February 2009
Azure_Kite
何をそれ、この「の本語」が？

食べるか？
My1_old
372 posts
Joined August 2011
My1_old
I cant type kana on this PC so I just use normal letters,...
Azure_Kite
osu! Alumni
3,217 posts
Joined February 2009
Azure_Kite
Still. What is this "Nohongo" thing.
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,963 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral

Unkind wrote:

うん、日本語が好き
二年前、俺の日本語の勉強が始まった
理由は日本語ゲームとアニメと漫画はすごく面白いぞ＾ー＾
i always thought ぞ was impolite or offensive

at least that's what i was told anyway!
Colin Hou
osu! Alumni
4,456 posts
Joined November 2009
Colin Hou
so is 俺
Azure_Kite
osu! Alumni
3,217 posts
Joined February 2009
Azure_Kite
ore is generally used only in very casual environments, it's quite a masculine/informal version of "I". Generally not recommended to be used unless you're quite familiar with the people you're using it with.
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
「俺」と「ぞ」は普通の話し方だぞｗ

Edited for various confusions brought on by me being confused by someone's response to another post thinking it was mine. Cleared up.

I don't claim to be amazing at Japanese, but i'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with what i wrote. This is how i've always talked with japanese friends online. I am aware it isn't that polite, but I wouldn't call it "offensive" at all (look at 俺様 for that). Half the fun of speaking in Japanese is talking in your own way. Have fun.

Basically, Zo is just casual, not always offensive. Ore is casual and masculine, also usually not offensive.

But if you were talking to your boss, girlfriend's parents, the president, or like, i dunno, God, anyone that can fuck you over, you might want to not use them. But you guys aren't any of those things as far as I know. :)
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Haseo_old
742 posts
Joined May 2011
Haseo_old
We got Japanese Class in our school. Got a grading of B.
Daru
osu!painter
866 posts
Joined August 2008
Daru

Azure_Kyte wrote:

何をそれ、この「の本語」が？

食べるか？
知らない？の本語は私の一番好きな食べ物だよ。
Zerostarry
osu! Alumni
1,563 posts
Here since the beginning
Zerostarry
I learned the first few sets of hiragana

... and then i stopped for some reason, got too busy ;_; motivate me to start back up again!
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras

Zerostarry wrote:

I learned the first few sets of hiragana

... and then i stopped for some reason, got too busy ;_; motivate me to start back up again!
you're lookin at 2 weeks 30 minutes a day at the maximum
Pokebis
2,047 posts
Joined April 2008
Pokebis
I sat down with Hiragana for an hour and then knew it.
Just use this.
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