Maakkeli wrote:

heil!!!!!!

what is this foot fetish bg taken from the YT-video where this Speed Up Ver. is coming from lel, but u gotta admit that the left girl's feet and especially toes look good as heck (while the right one's look really crippled xd)

combo colors thank ay I just noticed that too lel, will do some other time maybe~ (maybe I'm just gonna be lazy and steal bouya's)

bonsai

1. 00:16:935 (1) - wat is dis nc idk
2. 00:25:924 (1) - tbh this slidershape feels kinda out of place since you use this type of stuff so rarely yeah, one could almost say it's.. creepy (｡☉౪ ⊙｡) yeah it's iirc the only time I used anything but my copypasta ones, will think about it / wait for more feedback
3. 00:54:418 (1,2,3) - can you space these out more since it looks kinda cramped right now. Same at 00:57:131 (1,2,3) - okidoki
4. 01:05:272 (3) - helo nc pls cause powerful vocal sounds and other instruments are powerful too! nghgh ok I guess, added it at 00:10:998 (1) - too since that's kinda similar
5. 01:41:568 (3) - visual awkwardness maximum idk I think it's alright xd
6. 02:05:313 (1) - felt kinda odd to me that you decided to change up your rhythm here when you pretty much only follow the vocals the whole map but w/e I don't really know what you mean, the rhythm is the same except that now every vocal syllable is clickable, and the slidertails are now mapped to the drums that are stronger here, this follows vocals even more close imo lel
7. 02:13:115 (2) - can you pls end this on the white tick so it ends on the vocal? The vocal would be at the blue tick prior to that, which would seem a bit weird to me, also I wanted to include the echo a bit which this does, and the slidertick there is doing a nice job there too imo
8. 02:19:730 (3) - i have been violated I'm not entirely sure whether I understand this or not but I'm gonna ct like I do
9. very yes amen

i was supposed to say something clever but i forgot you are a silly person

Maakkeli wrote:

bouyAx3 x3

1. 00:02:857 (1) - any reason why you started mapping here already? Right now it seems kinda odd since you didn't map the whole intro ya x3
2. 00:18:461 (5) - isn't this kinda weird when this is a 1/1 slider just like these 00:17:104 (3,4) - two? x3
3. very yes #2 x3

Maakkeli wrote:

hei!!!!!!

what is this foot fetish bg

combo colors thank

phaZZZ

1. 00:05:062 (1,2) - can you why this what that me he him she yes carpet blanket blanket. removed
2. 00:09:133 (2,3,1) - these super cramped looking things really trigger me tried my best with the lowest effort!
3. 00:15:238 (2,1) - are these even supposed to be blankets? still looks good. a real perfect blanket would look shit imo
4. 00:23:210 (1,2) - hmm i didn't even notice this vocal thing in bonsai's diff but here it's really noticeable cause you end that slider in 1/3. I think it just sounds super awkward rhythm wise. Bonsai did that pretty nicely so maybe you could try to go for something similar? I did this i dont know man, i really get triggered by that simplification beause its just off. but if more people think itd better the other way ill propably change
5. 00:24:228 (5,6) - the spacing here is really fkd. 00:23:888 (3) - and 00:24:228 (5) - are the powerful sounds here but right now your spacing is emphasizing 00:24:397 (6) - as the most powerful sound. You're emphasizing even more than 00:24:567 (1) - which is really awkward imo. If you need to break the consistent spacing here then why not break it at 00:24:228 (5) - already? youre right. changed it back to previous state. i changed it for better flows but i just realized that there is an easier solution /facepalm
6. 00:51:365 (1,2) - why did you put your nc at the place you did? 00:51:534 (2) - is more powerful here and I think it should get the emphasis idk, fixd
7. 01:06:460 (4) - i'd like for the downbeat to be clickable. Not just because "oh it's a downbeat it must be a circle" but because I feel like the vocals and the other instruments demand it remapping this shitty shit
8. 01:44:112 (3) - don't know how confusing this will be for the players who actually play this level of diffs but imo this is super confusing since it's visually really close to 01:43:434 (2) - since you placed the slidernend towards (2) i see, and even though i agree im too bad to come up with any ideas for now, so i guess ill find out if it really is a problem after watching some replays \:D/
9. 02:06:500 (2) - wow what polarity pls removed
10. yes

i was supposed to say something clever but i forgot

Smokeman wrote:

this old man is capable of murder

NM from muh q
phaz

00:15:747 (1,2,3,4,1) - this was kinda confusding to play. visual spacing ≁ expected rythmical spacing (not proportional) (mb adjusting NC would help) changed to anti-jump P:
00:22:532 (3,4) - this rythm you did in this part was rly wierd to play. Starting the slider on the white tick 00:22:532 - feels a lot more intuitive since you followed these violin notes before aswell before i couldnt decide there because well.. now the repeat doesnt start on the vocals xD
00:25:245 (3,4) - samefixed
00:43:224 (2) - mute the slider ends ? Think about all the others aswell, too lazy too point all of them out :I alright
01:00:015 (2,3) - this one is very wierd to me. You have half a measure of no clicking and a 1/1 gap between the slider end and the next head. You prolly wont want to have 7 slider in this section 01:00:015 (2,6) - but instead you could put 2 single notes instead https://puu.sh/rD5mS/19664f8e7e.png filling up the space and not ruining the rythm of 01:00:693 (5,6,7,8) - just added circle. not taking ur suggestion because itll ruin 01:02:050 (8,1) -
01:05:272 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - whats happening with these cool sampleswitching? Why only put them here and not everywhere / why put them here when you didnt put them anywhere else. just randomly started hitsounding but was too lazy to actually complete it
01:05:951 (3,4) - same rythm thing ^
01:18:841 (1,2,3) - that wierd spacing thing you did here 00:15:747 (1,2,3,4,1) - 01:15:279 (3,1,2) - made me belive all these three were the same "idk any patterns other than triangles". nah i fixed the worst one, these 01:15:449 (1,2) - 00:32:030 (1,2) - have nc'ing so i dont think i wont change it unless its still too problematic on the eyes of others
01:43:434 (2,3) - same thing like before ^
02:04:295 (6,7,1,2) - mb map 1/2 slider over them so its not as dense as the part following. You would creat some nice *~contrast~* nah, i like how it plays a bit different. fixed pattern though thanks :p
02:26:344 (3,3) - Because of the low AR this almost stouching is visible and doesnt look very good in my eyes ):well if bonsai is okay with it ill put ar 8.1 but i guess its already really close to the limit compared to normal/insane and considering that its 176bpm
02:27:871 (5,6) - :I pls. 02:28:549 - put something stong here please. Its the strongest vocal in the whole song and you emphasise it with a slider end of a fricken repeat slider ): k
02:37:708 (2,3) - the thing ^
02:40:930 (1,2,3,4,1,1) - this looks pretty cramped even while playing. Rotate 1 a bit fixed in my own way
02:43:135 (2,3,4) - Could be misread as a 1/2 jump since the vocals are this intense intense anyway these are on a very memorable 1/1 rhythm. the only time i ignored the vocals rhythm is now with the new suggestionand the visual spacing looks similar to what your spaced 1/2 jumps were like earlier in your map. Use more spacing or a more dense rythm visually widened the spacing

Smokeman wrote:

this old man is capable of murder

NM from muh q mooh

Insan

i played this like 8 times forgetting that i wanted to mod it lawl aw yiss

and use better combocolours :[
(just brighter or someshit) I'll wait for more feedback (added them with the last update), worst-case-scenario I'll copy phaZ' (but remove the darkblue-one) :^D

00:54:078 (5,6) - This one kept fucking me up. to be precice 00:53:570 (3,4,5) - the movement from 4 to 5. I think you mapped 5 and 6 to the vocals, but this sample thingy ontop of them makes it kinda wierd to play. Mb if you allow some more movement between 00:54:078 (5,6) - https://puu.sh/rD3kY/b0bcb81fb9.png :U
01:19:689 (4,5) - this looked kinda wierd while playing. 01:19:859 (5) - move it a TINY bit further down AAAAAAA (done lol)
01:37:498 (5,6) - same like before
02:31:772 (5,6) - this didnt feel wierd to play... somehow... Hm, the only reason I could see for that is the angles of (4,5,6), adjusted those two to make it maybe a bit more comfortable like the last one, maybe it helps, if not then idc tbh bc imo it plays well kek

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here from #modreqs. Mapset is really good and most of this is just minor personal stuff. Hope this helps! bless you <3 every opinion on stuff helps ^^
I like the nightcore version btw ayy, I'm currently really indecisive as to whether I should slow the map down and use the original song or not, dang it ^^;

[Insane]

00:32:708 (1,2,3) – Since (3) is different, I don't think you need to use the same structure, which might be able to set you up for a smoother transition from counterclockwise to clockwise flow since this felt slightly odd to play. Try: http://puu.sh/rQOgi/4787f1e085.jpg welp that would completely mess up the aesthetics, but I don't feel any need to change it anyways, it plays fine to with both tablet and mouse, I'll keep it in mind in case anyone mentions it again though

00:55:435 (3,4,1,2,3) – It's a little unfortunate that (3,4) has the same flow as (4,1,2,3). Compare this with 02:33:128 (3,4,1,2,3) – which has a little more distinction between these notes which emphasizes the strong note at 02:33:807 (1) – a little more. I don't necissarily consider that as a bad thing since those two combos are one line of lyrics, but I tried making it a bit more different ^^

00:58:149 (3,1,2) – Wish this had the same rhythm as 02:35:842 (3,4,1,2) - . Yes, currently it is better paced since 02:35:842 (3,4,1,2) – is stronger, but there's ways to keep a good pacing while continuing the strong vocal emphasis you started with at 00:57:131 (1,2) – (as far as how to pace it, you could try using decreasing DS to keep this pattern weak. A bad example: http://puu.sh/rQNxE/3464fe6dd3.jpg) I don't think 00:58:319 needs more emphasis, the vocals don't have a syllable there, it's only a change in pitch which is the same as the tails of 00:57:131 (1,2) and rn it's mapped the same, with the only difference being that it's 1/2 instead of 1/1, so I think this is totally sufficient
01:41:568 (3,1) – if so, stay consistent

01:42:755 (4,5,1) - Linear flow + 1/1 pause = weird Uhh I feel like the 1/1-gap is what makes it non-weird, since it gives the player enough time to comfortably stop and start again o: stuff like 01:12:057 (1,2,3,4,5) would imo be weirder to play, but I really love those sorts of linear flow anyways so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
01:18:332 (5,6,1) – Kind of same issue but not as bad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01:35:971 (4,5,1) – Linear flow doesn't emphasize the (1) note as much as I'd like it to. imo it emphasizes it in a different way since linear flow needs a different kind of coordination-skill, I'm very happy with this, represents the "any further" very well ^^

02:34:655 (5,1) – The strong vocal makes me want the DS to be higher. It doesn't really work that well with the current flow though, so idk Agreed, tried my best by moving the slider up and to the left

Good luck!

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here from #modreqs. Mapset is really good and most of this is just minor personal stuff. Hope this helps!
I like the nightcore version btw

[phaz's Hard]

00:08:285 (1,1) – this overlap doesn't look great to me. By moving everything that comes before it, you can set it up to look more like: http://puu.sh/rQOGM/867ff8a368.png kinda improved that, not as much as you (i dont like that angle)

00:34:319 (5) – This is overmapped and doesn't feel appropriate given no other ¼ triples in this section. am i the only one who notices that vocal-"roll"? it isnt even dense (3x 1/1-slider before) even though the rhythm by the music became more complex, so it should be okay

02:02:091 (2,3) – overlap doesn't look great to me god, leave me! i like it xD

02:06:331 (1,2,3,4,5) – You should follow the vocals here by making (1) and (3) into ½ sliders to stay consistent with the rest of this section mostly following the vocals. Right now, it feels too energetic since the vocals take a rest here. i dont think it is too energetic. after all another drum line just kicked in, which is pretty strong here. pattern wise it is still emphazised the same way on the vocals as at 02:00:903 (1,2,3) - which i think is good that way

02:16:507 – put a circle here to stay consistent with the drums you're about to follow at 02:17:186 (4) - . Otherwise (4) feels too energetic just want to consistently catch the chord changes from the bass-line. indeed i decided to use a bit more tense rhythm here because of the drums+snaps/claps. making it follow them specifically would force me to add a circle at 02:17:864 - as well, but i dont think the drums justify such a higher density
ik i once argue for higher density for the drums and once against that. but arent these just minor tweaks? i think its good that way :v

02:30:415 (1,2) – This DS is kind of high for a note that doesn't feel strong in the song. Like yeah, cool looking pattern, but you can't find a different cool looking pattern that fits this? ill think of a solution (will fix this)

Good luck!

Smokeman wrote:

Advanced little girl

00:05:571 (1) - https://puu.sh/sYIBD/38dbf0b94e.png If this https://puu.sh/sYIDG/159e8e317b.png is the center of the slider then you could try to have greater propotions so the curve doesnt look so small and cramped (like 40(linear part left from the center) to 60(curved part right from the center)) yeah I get what you mean, reason why I did it like that is that I wanted to keep the feeling that the red anchor is somewhat mapped to the beat in-between, tried to find a better balance now ^^
01:29:526 (1) - move this a bit up or down, so it doesnt "touch the other slider head a bit" (01:45:808 (1) - liek this) thought so too but was too lazy bc moving something around when you permanently run out of playfield is hard lol
02:04:635 (1,2) - i can hear this one extra drum-thingy kicking in here, but is it really that much of a difference to stop stacking and start "not stacking". Maybe you should increase the spacing on 02:05:483 (4,5,6) - those inbetween patterns, cause atm everything is monospaced. (a little bit of contrast, cause it felt wierd to play) I find the difference to be quite significant, and I additionally supported it with heavy hitsounding, so that should be fine :^P and I don't really see a need to add bigger spacings either, seems fine to me like it is
02:37:538 (1,2,3) - 02:38:726 (4,5,6) - felt soo cucked playing this (nice) embrace the offbeats <3
02:45:679 (1,2,3,4,5) - you really like your parallel lines dont you :^) yes I do <3

00:46:107 (1) - those fuckers rally confused me the first time i played it, cause in all your other diffs i wouldnt hold the note for this long. But after sightreading it once i got the hang of it C: yeah I'd rather have people play the map at least twice than limit myself to boring rhythms <3

best mod eva :^3 still very much appreciated <3

every bonsai is capable of murder... asdf </3

1. Apparently Mk's Easy is the only diff with a file load error, AiMod signals that there is no BG on this diff even though you can see it. You can fix this by re-applying the BG on this diff~

1. 00:53:061 (3) - Just a large straight slider may be a bit boring, perhaps a curve like this should make things more interesting~
2. 01:00:863 (2,3) - Boy, this blanket is notably off~
3. 01:19:858 (2,3,1) - same
4. 01:40:551 - why here you don't follow the same rhythm as in 01:37:837 - ? The inconsistency feels odd since the similar rhythms are just a few seconds away~ Not to mention that you kept it consistent on 00:54:418 -

1. 01:36:310 (1) - The sharp curve feels awkward, what about using this shape instead?
2. 01:46:487 (2) - Just an alternate design suggestion in case you like it~ http://puu.sh/t30mr/0e39fb2969.jpg

1. 00:40:171 (4) - It would be nice to at least add a couple of curves to represent the vocals~ http://puu.sh/t30QX/3676812161.jpg
2. 00:48:651 (5,1) - slightly touching the life bar on the default skin~
3. 01:14:770 (6) - ^ and the next one does on 4:3 resolutions
4. 01:20:707 (3,1) - This overlap doesn't feel pleasant to the eyes
5. 01:36:989 (4) - Alternate design suggestion http://puu.sh/t31oh/ab51c52f95.jpg (cuz I kinda like the flow better that way)
6. 02:00:225 (4,5,6) - 02:03:956 (7,8,9) - Hmm.. I wonder if these 1/2 spacings could be misleading for some people. I see you want to represent the lower intensity on the song I guess, but still you should get a couple of testplays and see how people react to that since you used that spacing only on those two patterns~
7. 02:22:443 (3) - life baaar

1. 00:09:133 (2) - Having half of the note hidden behind a slider doesn't look very appealing~
2. 00:15:747 (1,2,3) - Oww, this spacing is confusing since you separated the objects by the same distance while the three of them are not separated by the same amount of time :c I would recommend to move (2) by a considerable distance away from (1) and keep it closer to (3) to make this pattern more readable ~
3. 02:25:157 (1,2) - They look messy the way they're cramped like that, what about using the same shape for a better repetition effect? like this
4. 02:37:708 (2) - This one is touching the life bar.. and it's very noticeable~

1. 00:58:658 (2) - So you go down from the previous object to make players curve up and down and then to the next object whick is up again.. I think this would flow better if you curve it the opposite direction. like this~ I tested it and yee, feels better fur me~
2. 01:00:863 (4) - Then we have this circle that may not be in a nice position fur 4:3 resolutions https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6912698
   Nothing else to point out in this diff wow~

ezek wrote:

Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo \:3/

[General]

1. Apparently Mk's Easy is the only diff with a file load error, AiMod signals that there is no BG on this diff even though you can see it. You can fix this by re-applying the BG on this diff~ ok lol, weird, since it's already in the .osu too, but done

[Advanced]

1. 00:40:171 (4) - It would be nice to at least add a couple of curves to represent the vocals~ http://puu.sh/t30QX/3676812161.jpg but this is still the same sentence as the previous two sliders, those are straight because I interpret "pushing" as a straight motion, if that makes sense lol
2. 00:48:651 (5,1) - slightly touching the life bar on the default skin~ oops, fixed
3. 01:14:770 (6) - ^ and the next one does on 4:3 resolutions I HATE LOW CS, WHY IS THE PLAYFIELD SO SMALL
4. 01:20:707 (3,1) - This overlap doesn't feel pleasant to the eyes I find it okay, perfectly in the middle of the previous slider and all that o:
5. 01:36:989 (4) - Alternate design suggestion http://puu.sh/t31oh/ab51c52f95.jpg (cuz I kinda like the flow better that way) oo nice, done
6. 02:00:225 (4,5,6) - 02:03:956 (7,8,9) - Hmm.. I wonder if these 1/2 spacings could be misleading for some people. I see you want to represent the lower intensity on the song I guess, but still you should get a couple of testplays and see how people react to that since you used that spacing only on those two patterns~ from what I've seen in replays from other maps that do something like this it seems to be fine, and even if it wasn't it would definitely be clear how to play this after the player has seen it once, and maps don't really need to be sightreadable, if someone wants to FC this then they should be willing to play it at least twice (which they'd probably need to anyways if they can't read that) ^^
7. 02:22:443 (3) - life baaar NGHHHHHHHH

[Insane]

1. 00:58:658 (2) - So you go down from the previous object to make players curve up and down and then to the next object whick is up again.. I think this would flow better if you curve it the opposite direction. like this~ I tested it and yee, feels better fur me~ But that would make the whole thing one smooth movement that doesn't require any snapping or anything like that, which is something that I avoided in the whole map, it's filled with sliders that go against 'comfortable' flow.. I myself find this nice to play, even with mouse (I usually play with tablet), and nobody else has mentioned this either (and I got a lot of playtests too), so I'm gonna keep this
2. 01:00:863 (4) - Then we have this circle that may not be in a nice position fur 4:3 resolutions https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6912698 a s d f I hate this lol
   Nothing else to point out in this diff wow~ *pats 11-months-ago-me on the shoulder*

Call me when u feel ready

ezek wrote:

Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo \:3/

[BOUYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA's Normal]

1. 01:36:310 (1) - The sharp curve feels awkward, what about using this shape instead? i like mine
2. 01:46:487 (2) - Just an alternate design suggestion in case you like it~ http://puu.sh/t30mr/0e39fb2969.jpg i like yours

Call me when u feel ready
What's ur number? <3

ezek wrote:

[Mk's Easy]

1. 00:53:061 (3) - Just a large straight slider may be a bit boring, perhaps a curve like this should make things more interesting~ as in my Advanced, I think this fits the lyrics in terms of 'pusing further', a straight slider pushes more than a curved one
2. 01:00:863 (2,3) - Boy, this blanket is notably off~ fixed lol
3. 01:19:858 (2,3,1) - same same
4. 01:40:551 - why here you don't follow the same rhythm as in 01:37:837 - ? The inconsistency feels odd since the similar rhythms are just a few seconds away~ Not to mention that you kept it consistent on 00:54:418 - I agree, he ain't using a rhythm like that in any other of these places either - Used the same rhythm he used there in the first Kiai and blanketed a lot~

1. 01:43:264 (1) - Seems like someone forgot to hitsound this :v

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

Hi and sorry for ruining your little party with my two cents
loool no worries, thank you for checking by
(I didn't think I'd find a BN so quickly when I posted this in #modreqs ^_^;)

NM from modreqs

General
Check through the inherited points in Mk's and Bouyaaa's difficulties because there are few that do not necessarly affect anything 00:26:857 - or just the volume of drum-sliderslide 00:27:450 - (Both of the examples are in mk's diff) so just get rid of the ones that you don't deem necessary As you said, they do not affect anything, not even the slider-slide because it will always keep playing the sound and at the volume of where the slider started, just check it yourself, there's no need to delete those ^^

MkGuh
01:47:335 (3) - Unless the endpoint of this slider intentionally placed like so you could move the endpoint roughly 5 (tiny) grids down to create a cleaner S shape for the slider because currently the second half of the slider does not have that kind of a curve the first half has making it look derpy (responding for MkGuh bc he's gone for a week) I doubt anyone will notice that ingame but fixed ^^

01:48:692 (1) - Could you explain what are you trying to follow with the hold effect with this slider? I personally do not notice anything specific after this 01:48:692 - point that should be necessarly mapped by one way or another (Atleast the other mappers on the set have mapped that just as a hitcircle here 01:48:692 - ) but it may just be me not noticing your intentions so that is why i'm asking you to explain what you are doing and suggesting that you should just replace the slider as a single hitcircle to 01:48:692 - if you don't have any reasons to have the slider there A slider doesn't necessarily have to exist to emphasize its head or tail, it can also be used to simply emphasize a holding sound which exists, but if you listen carefully you'll even notice that there is a drum-like beat on the tail that is not repeated later on, so I think that is quite a justification to map it, and it definitely is intentional since you don't just do that randomly (and MkGuh is quite experienced in lower diffs by now ^^)

BOUYAAA00:16:426 (1,2) - 00:19:139 (1,2) - So i do not think this would matter like at all but you are using a clickable for the claps in those two points even though every other similiar beat pattern is just a 1/2 slider where the sliderhead is on the strong synthesizer hit and the slidertail is on the clap. Why did you choose to do like so? I don't really see a point to differ the way to follow the beat that much but maybe you can clear that up for me because i just did not notice what you were doing. I know that there is a synthesizer hit on 00:16:426 - and a hit hat on 00:19:139 - that can be mapped as 1/2s but is the current way the best and optimal one because those sounds are less noticeable than the main synthesizer It's probably just to highlight and emphasize the major downbeats on (1) more, but I'll let bouya answer that himself ^^

Advanced00:32:708 (1,2) - You don't really perfectly stack anything else than these two on the more intense parts so why are these perfectly stacked? Also this 00:20:496 (5,1) - may be little bit misleading because you have used perfect stacks only for 8/1 notes prior to this Well, I do perfectly stack a lot right at the beginning, and there's also one at 01:03:746 (3,1) -.. They are simply used for every gap that is larger than 1/1 in order to differentiate and to make the 1/1-stacks more recognizable; And the fact that I use perfect stacks for both 3/2 and for 2/1 is not really an issue bc hey, the same could be said about autostacks being used for both 1/2 and for 1/2 - Perfect stacks make the player focus on the approach circle more, since there is nothing else to look at, and that approach circle should be sufficient to indicate when the note should be clicked. Also, the rhythm at 00:20:496 (5,1) is just a repetition of the same rhythm that occured earlier, for example at 00:15:069 (3,4,5,6) -, so it can be expected anyways

00:46:107 (1) - Your intention behind sliders such as this one is whatever it is but personally i can't think about anything that would connect the normal and the echo. Could you atleast justify why the way you have done is the correct one? Having two 1/1 sliders wouldn't be too hard because boyuaaaaa is using that kind of a pattern in his normal The reason why I use the double-reverse is to differentiate this from the rest - If I would just use two 1/1-sliders, this would be mapped the exact same way as for example 00:44:750 (4,5) which occurs right before, but it is not the same in the song, hence I map it differently ^^ And in terms of how it connects normal and echo: The more reverses a slider has, the less meaning, or emphasis, do these reverses have, just as the lyrics get quieter and less prominent with the echo! #deep

Quite unique style here :> Thanks, I'm experimenting a lot lately ^_^

phaZSo any specific reasons that the first kiai ends few ticks later than on other difficulties? (Most likely a small mistake because you have ended the kiai here 02:46:867 - before the "cause you hurt her") The Kiai ends here in all diffs though o: Must've been an error on your end :/

00:07:564 - You forgot one bookmark from here xd LOL

Holy s- the DS on the slower part is really small...

00:33:556 - 00:41:697 (3) - My ears ;_; rip

00:43:224 (2) - When you emphasize this sound on the sliderhead this much shouldn't this 00:43:054 (1) - be emphasized atleast a little bit more than it is? You have finish and clap on it, it's NCd and it's mapped on a much stronger hit than any of these 00:42:545 (1,2,3) . You already have it priotized over other notes by many different ways so why not through spacing aswell? (replying for phaZ as well bc he has internet-problems LOL) Let me turn the question around: Why should he emphasize it with spacing too? Emphasis isn't a yes-or-no thing, you can emphasize some beats a bit and some beats a lot, which makes it possible to differentiate between beats that are of different importance - Looking at it in terms of natural beat priority, the white tick is stronger than the red one by default, so phaZ is differentiating this by emphasizing (1) with the NC but at the same time emphasizing (2) even more my adding higher spacing, which is supported by the song and also supported by the hitsounding (since the soft-finish stands out more than the drum-finish here)

02:10:910 (2) - Why is this curved? It would function much better with the 3 ( 02:11:928 (3) - ) if the slider was straight (or rotated roughly 45 degrees CW) because currently the sliderbody of the 2 does not flow at all with the 3. Though if you want to keep the 2|4 blanket you can just move the 3 so it flows better with the body of 2 (Moving upwards and maybe a little bit to the left should do it. Personally i would move it to be around x315|y12) phaZ is forming a triangle with (3,4,5) here which would be ruined if the (3) was moved anywhere else - It's really not an issue since the flow of sliders is very lenient, and it doesn't flow strongly anyways since it's a slow reverse-slider, so basically the player is just almost staying at the same place for some time and then moving again, doesn't really matter in which direction ^^

02:19:730 (1) - Uhh why is this NCd? I don't really see a reason to do so and it would be more logical to have these three 02:19:390 (1,2,1) - all in the same combo because they technically form a pattern There's a really loud *BEEP*-noise on that note lol, this is pretty much just a matter of taste, and since phaZ is using NCs to highlight single beats quite often it makes sense to highlight this one too

Insane00:15:747 (1,2) - 00:16:087 (2,3) - Using the same DS for 1/2s and then 1/4s when they are exactly next to each other is really going to throw people off the track. Could you justify your intentions behind it or move it so the DS does not jump from 2.8x to over 5 This is simply a stylistic element that is used often in Insanes and higher diffs, basically the same as antijumps - Imagine that if (3) didn't exist, these sliders here would all have consistent spacing, it seems only natural that (1) is on the downbeat, especially since it's NCd which usually indicates downbeats, and (3) is just simply adding a note in-between, but the 'intuitiveness' of (1) being the downbeat still exists bc that's simply what makes most sense - Players of this level can usually deal with this very easily, and even if they couldn't, this is just ten seconds into the map, no harm in retrying over that ;P

02:11:631 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not 100% sure but i don't think these notes are exactly on the vocals. They are about 1/8 (or 1/6 i'm not sure) too early right now. Noticed this randomly so there may be other similiar issues even in other difficulties... You are absolutely right, when listening to it carefully in the editor these are off, but as the notes at 02:12:945 (1,2) indicate the metronome is still going at regular pace, and this vocal-rhythm and their lyrics are exactly the same as for example at the start of every Kiai - Snapping these to 1/8 would not make much sense because nobody would expect that and it would be unreadable at this AR, it would only cause bad accurady or maybe even sliderbreaks if it were mapped like that, hence this is a simplification to make everybody's life easier ^^

You may want to consider some of these things before pushing the set forward
GL anyway xd great song choice though

Bonsai wrote:

Welp, denied everything except fixing a wave-slider since everything had its reasons, but I do appreciate the effort you put into this, it's always good to question things and it's pretty much the best way to get more knowledge, so no worries about ruining the partym, keep up the good work
Updated, doesn't really need a rebubble though since it's just one minor anchor that has been changed

Bonsai wrote:

(I didn't think I'd find a BN so quickly when I posted this in #modreqs ^_^;)

Pentori wrote:

heyo yohe

[Advanced]
00:15:578 (4) - no feedback for this? a finish works True, added a Whistle instead though. also added some Finishes to the following section lol
00:20:496 (5,1) - i really think you should space this instead of stack. since u previously used 2/1 stacked notes 00:12:355 (3,4) - switching to 3/2 gaps can be really confusing at this difficulty. kinda like how you chose to separate 00:15:069 (3,4) I don't think it's that confusing since it's the same rhythm as four measures earlier and the sliderheads make recognizing the downbeat a bit more intuive too. Even if not, this is just 15 seconds into the song, so retrying is not a big loss, 3/2-stacks appear later on too anyways. (in case you were pointing to the spaced one bc of inconsistency: The instrumental layer that has a break at the stack didn't play at the spaced one yet, hence the difference)
00:47:294 (2,3) - the track switching doesnt feel very intuitive. especially at this difficulty, swapping between instruments/vocals makes it rly difficult to follow tbh. maybe try something like http://puu.sh/t8sFB/9241c6bcaf.jpg to commit to the vocals. same for rest of these i guess I've tried your rhythm, but I dislike it bc then the rhythm after (1) becomes circle-slider-circle-slider-circle, using the same rhythmic pattern for vocals at first and then for those instrumentals at the end, and I don't like that mix-up at all bc it makes it feel less connected with the song to me :/
02:40:082 (1) - 02:41:270 - skipping that sound is rly dissapointing This feels much better in-game than in the editor because the spinner-spin-sound predominates everything here; if I shortened it the spinner as well as the recovery time would become pretty short (since I'd definitely want to map 02:41:609 -) which I don't wanna do that late into the map

the insane seems fine. 8-) although im not really a fan of this mapset >< 8-(
gl

Pentori wrote:

heyo

[phaZ's Hard]
00:05:571 (1,2,3) - spacing doesn't look consistent. only noticed cos it breaks the pattern its because of stacking mechanics. otherwise it would look shit. with stacking enabled its fine again
00:33:217 (2,3) - that jump feels really random it is indeed, but same for 01:16:636 (2) - and its mostly for asthetic reasons ;_; i want this part to have different sliders and patterns and stuff and since this is just a 1/1slider-1/1-slider jump i think not too hard
00:34:065 - 00:39:492 - random finishes? too lazy to get proper hitsounds, but i still like it more than w/o them
01:15:279 (3,1) - huge linear jump here, probably not appropriate considering you never used something of this spacing before fixd
02:10:062 (2,1) - really misleading considering this is a 1/1 gap that looks like 1/2 spacing uh i dont think so o: after you play that slow slider i think its more natural to expect a low ds as well (instead of high ds again)
02:13:115 (7) - vocals are 1/3? maybe follow that since u did earlier 00:23:210 (1) nah, also cant put that on on sliderend this time
gl

Bonsai wrote:

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

Hi and sorry for ruining your little party with my two cents
loool no worries, thank you for checking by
(I didn't think I'd find a BN so quickly when I posted this in #modreqs ^_^;)

[centre]phaZ

So any specific reasons that the first kiai ends few ticks later than on other difficulties? (Most likely a small mistake because you have ended the kiai here 02:46:867 - before the "cause you hurt her") The Kiai ends here in all diffs though o: Must've been an error on your end :/

00:07:564 - You forgot one bookmark from here xd LOL

Holy s- the DS on the slower part is really small...

00:33:556 - 00:41:697 (3) - My ears ;_; rip was too lazy to get proper hitsounds so i did some bad volume cheating

00:43:224 (2) - When you emphasize this sound on the sliderhead this much shouldn't this 00:43:054 (1) - be emphasized atleast a little bit more than it is? You have finish and clap on it, it's NCd and it's mapped on a much stronger hit than any of these 00:42:545 (1,2,3) . You already have it priotized over other notes by many different ways so why not through spacing aswell? (replying for phaZ as well bc he has internet-problems LOL) Let me turn the question around: Why should he emphasize it with spacing too? Emphasis isn't a yes-or-no thing, you can emphasize some beats a bit and some beats a lot, which makes it possible to differentiate between beats that are of different importance - Looking at it in terms of natural beat priority, the white tick is stronger than the red one by default, so phaZ is differentiating this by emphasizing (1) with the NC but at the same time emphasizing (2) even more my adding higher spacing, which is supported by the song and also supported by the hitsounding (since the soft-finish stands out more than the drum-finish here) will change this. your suggestion feels better. i was first thinking that many (almost) linear placed circles would make this hard enough already (but we got an advanced now so i can fuck arounda bit more)

02:10:910 (2) - Why is this curved? It would function much better with the 3 ( 02:11:928 (3) - ) if the slider was straight (or rotated roughly 45 degrees CW) because currently the sliderbody of the 2 does not flow at all with the 3. Though if you want to keep the 2|4 blanket you can just move the 3 so it flows better with the body of 2 (Moving upwards and maybe a little bit to the left should do it. Personally i would move it to be around x315|y12) phaZ is forming a triangle with (3,4,5) here which would be ruined if the (3) was moved anywhere else - It's really not an issue since the flow of sliders is very lenient, and it doesn't flow strongly anyways since it's a slow reverse-slider, so basically the player is just almost staying at the same place for some time and then moving again, doesn't really matter in which direction ^^ patterns dont excuse bad logic but since this part of the song is drastically different i wanted to use some different mapping style (wow you cant even feel it. guess i did a bad job) so its supposed to be a little "weird" maybe? but yeah, not that it would make any difference player perspective wise how the slider looks

02:19:730 (1) - Uhh why is this NCd? I don't really see a reason to do so and it would be more logical to have these three 02:19:390 (1,2,1) - all in the same combo because they technically form a pattern There's a really loud *BEEP*-noise on that note lol, this is pretty much just a matter of taste, and since phaZ is using NCs to highlight single beats quite often it makes sense to highlight this one too true that. but i mostly did it so the combo colors would be a like in all kiais and it felt most appropriate to throw a NC right there haha

You may want to consider some of these things before pushing the set forward
GL anyway xd great song choice though

Welp, denied everything except fixing a wave-slider since everything had its reasons, but I do appreciate the effort you put into this, it's always good to question things and it's pretty much the best way to get more knowledge, so no worries about ruining the partym, keep up the good work
Updated, doesn't really need a rebubble though since it's just one minor anchor that has been changed