Modded ingame.
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16:23 sheela: same
16:27 JenHideo: wow
16:27 sheela: ok! you can play now
16:28 JenHideo: um just my opinion
16:28 JenHideo: i think people will like it better if the preview point wasn't on the heavy dubstep part
16:29 sheela: hmm true
16:30 sheela: lol
16:30 JenHideo: struggling ;c
16:30 sheela: hahaha
16:34 sheela: lol
16:36 sheela: nice play!
16:36 JenHideo: thanks!
16:36 JenHideo: i was thinking about the diff name
16:36 JenHideo: "Freedom" sounds kind of generic
16:37 JenHideo: I was thinking something like "Liberation" would sound better
16:37 sheela: i was too lazy to search for a richer name lol
16:37 JenHideo: or "Devotion" since the song is called Holystone
16:37 sheela: Devotion it is
16:38 JenHideo: also
16:38 JenHideo: i was looking at how to map played and it's quality
16:38 JenHideo: so don't think i struggled the whole thing
16:38 JenHideo: xd
16:38 JenHideo: but here is my mod
16:39 JenHideo: 00:10:524 (4) - I think an NC here would be better
16:39 JenHideo: 00:10:888 (1) - and take it off here
16:39 JenHideo: 00:12:524 (2) - I don't like how you mapped a reverse slider here
16:40 JenHideo: when the same sound for 00:11:615 (1,2) - is 00:12:524 (2) - and to me it just feels weird
16:40 sheela: the nc thing: it doesn't follow the consistency with the nc pattern
16:41 JenHideo: 00:14:888 (2) - Looking what what you did at 00:13:070 (1,2) - I think you should make it an NC
16:41 JenHideo: but shouldn't the NC's match?
16:41 sheela: the repeat slider follows the piano, like 00:11:979 (1) -
16:41 JenHideo: ok
16:42 JenHideo: Gonna skip the kiai
16:42 sheela: the nc, it would look weird if i add one
16:42 JenHideo: 00:50:161 (1) - would be nicer if you curved the end more inwards
16:43 JenHideo: 00:52:342 (1) - and this in the middle
16:43 sheela: it's like following the piano too
16:43 sheela: 00:50:161 (1) - i don't like it when the curve is too "curved"
16:43 JenHideo: yeah but the player barely hears the piano in that part
16:44 JenHideo: 00:50:161 (1) - even if you keep it this way, you could still add the circle in the middle of the curve
16:44 JenHideo: would be a nice blanket
16:44 JenHideo: Also talking about the diff name
16:44 JenHideo: I think Liberation would be nicer
16:45 sheela: it's not really my style to do so
16:45 JenHideo: since at 01:07:615 - it says "Break out of the chains" or something like that
16:45 sheela: all right
16:45 JenHideo: sorry I am not used to your stile
16:45 JenHideo: style* so i am just saying what i think
16:45 sheela: it's okay
16:46 sheela: it's not a bad idea
16:46 sheela: but i don't like it much
16:46 JenHideo: the blanket?
16:46 sheela: yeah
16:46 JenHideo: ok
16:46 JenHideo: 01:27:251 (1) - would be nicer if you made the read ticks consistant
16:47 JenHideo: even thought the sound is loud and a little crazy
16:47 JenHideo: it stays the same through out it (except the end a little)
16:47 sheela: ok
16:47 sheela: actually
16:47 JenHideo: 01:31:615 (1) - same here but just for the end part in my opinion
16:48 sheela: there's a feeling in that sound that made me make this kind of slider
16:48 JenHideo: because you did it to 01:32:706 (1) - but not for the rest when they have the same sound
16:48 JenHideo: 01:35:979 (1) - I get that the sound lowers at the curve part
16:49 JenHideo: but it just doesn't look right
16:49 JenHideo: 01:38:161 (1) - I don't like the part with the red ticks
16:49 JenHideo: just feels random
16:49 sheela: 01:31:615 (1) - i'll consider it, but it would look a bit messy
16:50 JenHideo: can you explain why?
16:50 sheela: it's about the patterns around it
16:51 JenHideo: 01:59:979 (1) - this slider
16:51 sheela: oh wait
16:51 JenHideo: just has that bad vibe to it imo
16:51 sheela: 01:31:615 (1) - you want the end to be consistent?
16:51 JenHideo: 02:01:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - what you did here is fine
16:51 JenHideo: but you should maybe consider making all of them NC's
16:52 JenHideo: yes
16:52 JenHideo: 02:14:888 (1,2,3) - stream feels to fast to play
16:52 sheela: 01:31:615 (1) - making the end consistent is a bit boring to look
16:53 JenHideo: and it seems to be spaced out to much
16:53 JenHideo: I get that but
16:53 JenHideo: nvm
16:53 JenHideo: your choice
16:54 JenHideo: 02:17:251 (2,1) - This is a little awkward to play
16:54 JenHideo: and it doesn't look so great
16:54 JenHideo: 01:31:615 (1) -
16:54 JenHideo: if you think this would be boring
16:55 JenHideo: 01:32:706 (1) - why would you make this consistant?
16:55 sheela: 01:59:979 (1) - [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/6rsbFRc.png i made it like this]
16:55 JenHideo: 01:29:433 (1) - and part of this
16:56 JenHideo: did you just change that
16:56 JenHideo: or was it always like that?
16:56 sheela: 02:14:888 (1,2,3) - the spaced triplets sound well in this part imo, and it's the spacing i use for 1/6 rhythm
16:57 JenHideo: 02:33:797 (1) - just doesn't look good to make this type of sliders when there are not enough ticks
16:57 JenHideo: ok
16:57 JenHideo: 02:34:888 (1) - why don't you make this curve at the end
16:57 sheela: 01:32:706 (1) - it's a little inconsistent
16:57 JenHideo: and make 02:37:070 (1) - be blanketed by it?
16:58 JenHideo: i know the start isn't
16:58 JenHideo: but the rest is
16:58 JenHideo: by the way how do i save this chat
16:58 JenHideo: and post it on the forum?
16:59 sheela: you type /savelog and you get a text file
16:59 JenHideo: yeah but how do i get it onto the forum
16:59 JenHideo: just paste it?
17:00 sheela: use the [box=IRC][code]text[/code][/box] bbcode too
17:00 JenHideo: 05:48:524 - would be a better spot for preview point
17:00 JenHideo: thanks
17:00 sheela: 01:32:706 (1) - made the end a little more inconsistent then
17:02 JenHideo: 03:31:615 (1) - the other sliders looked fine
17:02 JenHideo: but this one isn't lol
17:02 JenHideo: 03:37:615 (1,1) - watch this "blanket"
17:02 sheela: 02:17:251 (2,1) - made it less uncomfortable
17:03 JenHideo: I am gonna wait so you can catch up
17:03 sheela: 02:33:797 (1) - turned this into a simple curve slider
17:04 sheela: 02:34:888 (1,1) - the style again, plus the flow is more direct
17:05 sheela: 05:48:524 - placed the preview point here
17:06 sheela: 03:31:615 (1) - honestly i like this slider since it looks new to me
17:06 JenHideo: yeah but
17:06 JenHideo: when it is crunched inside of itself
17:06 JenHideo: it just doesn't look right
17:07 sheela: [https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/GAqXr1x.png i made it a little clearer]
17:08 JenHideo: yeah that looks better!
17:08 sheela: yey
17:09 JenHideo: :D
17:09 sheela: 03:38:161 (1) - i don't see anything wrong, although i moved the last slider node a tiny bit down
17:10 JenHideo: the right side of it is more spaced out
17:10 JenHideo: while the left side is almost touching it
17:10 JenHideo: wait nvm
17:10 JenHideo: i mistakenly moved it lol
17:10 sheela: lol
17:11 sheela: ok, i'm ready for more suggestions
17:12 JenHideo: 03:57:797 (1) - Is pretty hard to read since the stream and slider are still fading away
17:12 sheela: i see it perfectly
17:13 JenHideo: 04:19:070 (1,2,3) - These jumps are weird
17:13 sheela: yeah, there's enough time to see that slider
17:13 JenHideo: well what skin do you sue
17:13 JenHideo: use* because i tested some of my other skins
17:13 JenHideo: and some of them still are fading when it happenes
17:13 JenHideo: happens*
17:13 sheela: the default skin
17:14 JenHideo: people don't use the default skin when they play though
17:14 sheela: it's recommended when modding or mapping
17:15 sheela: but it's true
17:15 JenHideo: I know I am using it
17:16 sheela: tho the players remove their hitbursts for 300 hits, so they shouldn't be blinded by them
17:17 sheela: 04:19:070 (1,2,3) - i don't see the jumps weird
17:17 sheela: they play fine
17:17 JenHideo: 05:50:161 (1) - take off the first red tick and the third one to make it look better and it would play smoother
17:17 JenHideo: the quality of them are not
17:18 sheela: even the quality is fine to me
17:18 JenHideo: especially in such an obtuse angle
17:18 JenHideo: it bugs me how the jump is big for (1) to (2) and they are angled
17:18 JenHideo: then (2) to (3) is just a straight line
17:18 JenHideo: and the jump is smaller
17:19 sheela: 05:50:161 (1) - i removed the two ticks
17:20 JenHideo: something like 06:14:706 (1,2,3) - would make more sense
17:21 sheela: then the flow for the jumps will be new to the players, which shouldn't be a problem tbh
17:21 sheela: they follow the music too imo
17:21 JenHideo: if they were to follow the music
17:21 JenHideo: 04:19:251 (2) - would be an NC
17:22 JenHideo: and that would make them follow the music better
17:22 JenHideo: and 04:19:070 (1) - doesn't feel like it should be an NC
17:22 JenHideo: there isn't much sound
17:22 sheela: not necessarily
17:22 JenHideo: except the drum
17:23 JenHideo: also
17:23 JenHideo: wouid you mind telling me which parts were made with 1/12?
17:24 sheela: okay, the nc's are added
17:25 sheela: most of the nc patterns are like that
17:25 sheela: so ok
17:25 JenHideo: just wondering
17:25 JenHideo: would you think making it CS4.2
17:25 sheela: for the 1/12: 03:33:433 (1,2) -
17:25 JenHideo: would make it play a little better?
17:26 sheela: sure, the cs is now 4.2
17:26 JenHideo: :D
17:26 sheela: that boosted the star difficulty tho lol
17:26 JenHideo: by how much?
17:27 sheela: around 0.07*
17:27 JenHideo: o
17:27 JenHideo: ok
17:27 JenHideo: Well
17:27 JenHideo: that's it really
17:28 JenHideo: but I might mod it again sometime if I see some other stuff
17:28 sheela: cool, that was very helpful
17:28 sheela: thanks!
17:28 JenHideo: No problem! The map is very good! :D
17:28 sheela: :D
17:29 sheela: are you going to post it in the forums now?
17:29 JenHideo: yeah