CyberX wrote:

SPOILER

2016-12-20 18:23 CyberX: i might do things not in order
2016-12-20 18:24 lazyboy007: doesn't matter
2016-12-20 18:24 CyberX: 02:47:257 (9,1,9,1,1,9,1) - 
2016-12-20 18:24 lazyboy007: any mod is a good mod
2016-12-20 18:24 CyberX: the spacing
2016-12-20 18:25 CyberX: either end the long slider 1 tick earlier
2016-12-20 18:25 CyberX: or make them more closer
2016-12-20 18:26 lazyboy007: hm I'll shorten the sliders by one tick then
2016-12-20 18:26 CyberX: 01:15:610 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - 
2016-12-20 18:26 CyberX: why you so evil
2016-12-20 18:27 CyberX: but imo its more comfortable if its kick sliders
2016-12-20 18:27 CyberX: i can say, its apply at every 1/6 you did
2016-12-20 18:27 lazyboy007: I'm on a mission to exterminate humanity with 1/6 streams
2016-12-20 18:27 lazyboy007: don't interrupt my mission
2016-12-20 18:27 lazyboy007: nah I like those
2016-12-20 18:27 CyberX: sad
2016-12-20 18:27 CyberX: LOL
2016-12-20 18:27 CyberX: okay
2016-12-20 18:28 CyberX: 01:31:434 (7) - NC this
2016-12-20 18:28 CyberX: they start the drum sound here, so imo shouldnt be the same
2016-12-20 18:28 CyberX: combo
2016-12-20 18:29 CyberX: are you ranking this?
2016-12-20 18:29 lazyboy007: I guess ^^ makes sense
2016-12-20 18:29 lazyboy007: I'll nc every 4 note on that pattern then
2016-12-20 18:30 CyberX: are you ranking this?
2016-12-20 18:30 CyberX: how about some gimmick?
2016-12-20 18:30 lazyboy007: yes
2016-12-20 18:30 lazyboy007: nah
2016-12-20 18:30 CyberX: ok lol
2016-12-20 18:30 lazyboy007: I tried fitting the song
2016-12-20 18:30 lazyboy007: I have other gimmick maps
2016-12-20 18:30 lazyboy007: :3
2016-12-20 18:30 lazyboy007: I have a deathstreamjump map in the works
2016-12-20 18:31 CyberX: 02:04:071 (6) -  NC
2016-12-20 18:32 lazyboy007: ye
2016-12-20 18:32 CyberX: this
2016-12-20 18:32 CyberX: 02:18:247 (7) - 
2016-12-20 18:32 CyberX: seperate them in 2 groups
2016-12-20 18:32 lazyboy007: you mean NC?
2016-12-20 18:33 CyberX: yes
2016-12-20 18:33 CyberX: 02:33:576 (2) - remove finish
2016-12-20 18:33 CyberX: and clap
2016-12-20 18:34 lazyboy007: eh?
2016-12-20 18:34 lazyboy007: nah it's fine there
2016-12-20 18:34 CyberX: no
2016-12-20 18:34 CyberX: there is no clap and finish sound
2016-12-20 18:34 CyberX: 02:33:906 (4) - and this
2016-12-20 18:35 lazyboy007: remove all the objects and listen again
2016-12-20 18:35 lazyboy007: there's definitely a clap there
2016-12-20 18:35 lazyboy007: the finish is just for style
2016-12-20 18:35 lazyboy007: it sounds good
2016-12-20 18:35 CyberX: i heard whistle
2016-12-20 18:35 CyberX: not clap and finish
2016-12-20 18:36 lazyboy007: the clap is softer but it's definitely there
2016-12-20 18:36 lazyboy007: which is why I also went to soft hs instead of drums
2016-12-20 18:36 CyberX: :p
2016-12-20 18:37 CyberX: seriously i only heard whistle
2016-12-20 18:37 CyberX: but nvm
2016-12-20 18:37 lazyboy007: my hs don't follow the song exactly anyways :p
2016-12-20 18:38 CyberX: 03:19:235 (5) - NC
2016-12-20 18:39 CyberX: 03:45:060 -  feels better if you add note
2016-12-20 18:39 lazyboy007: ye
2016-12-20 18:40 lazyboy007: ye but there's no sound there so it'd be overmapped imo
2016-12-20 18:40 CyberX: actually there is a sound
2016-12-20 18:40 CyberX: but
2016-12-20 18:40 CyberX: its gitar end
2016-12-20 18:40 CyberX: 03:44:620 (1) - longer this
2016-12-20 18:41 lazyboy007: hm
2016-12-20 18:41 lazyboy007: I guess :p
2016-12-20 18:41 lazyboy007: no I won't make 1 longer I don't want to ignore the snare
2016-12-20 18:41 CyberX: okay, thats make sense
2016-12-20 18:42 CyberX: 03:49:236 (4,5) - this is 1/3 kick
2016-12-20 18:42 lazyboy007: I always make sense
2016-12-20 18:42 lazyboy007: kappa
2016-12-20 18:42 CyberX: 1/3 tick
2016-12-20 18:42 lazyboy007: oh shoot ye
2016-12-20 18:42 lazyboy007: that's not 1/4
2016-12-20 18:42 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:42 lazyboy007: whoops
2016-12-20 18:42 CyberX: LOL
2016-12-20 18:43 CyberX: 03:58:137 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - there are in same level of intesesity
2016-12-20 18:43 CyberX: intensity*
2016-12-20 18:43 lazyboy007: hm 1-2-3-4-5 are on a higher note
2016-12-20 18:44 lazyboy007: i mean 2-3-4-5-1
2016-12-20 18:44 CyberX: well, thats make this 03:58:795 (5) - should be different with 1-4
2016-12-20 18:45 lazyboy007: I can do a slight jumpstream
2016-12-20 18:45 lazyboy007: but 5-6-7-8 a bit higher
2016-12-20 18:45 CyberX: ye
2016-12-20 18:45 lazyboy007: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6851126
2016-12-20 18:45 lazyboy007: liek that
2016-12-20 18:46 lazyboy007: hr players rejoice
2016-12-20 18:46 CyberX: ye
2016-12-20 18:46 lazyboy007: more hard to aim trash on hr
2016-12-20 18:46 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:46 CyberX: 04:01:763 (1,2) - there are 1/8
2016-12-20 18:46 lazyboy007: this map on hr is just horribly evile
2016-12-20 18:46 lazyboy007: evil*
2016-12-20 18:47 CyberX: they are 1/8*
2016-12-20 18:47 lazyboy007: you sure?
2016-12-20 18:47 CyberX: ye
2016-12-20 18:47 lazyboy007: on 25% it sounds like 1/6
2016-12-20 18:47 CyberX: you try with 1/8
2016-12-20 18:48 lazyboy007: nah pretty sure it's 1/6
2016-12-20 18:48 CyberX: nah, i try both
2016-12-20 18:48 CyberX: definitely
2016-12-20 18:48 CyberX: 1/8
2016-12-20 18:48 lazyboy007: it'd be the only 1/8 drum in the song if it was 1/8
2016-12-20 18:49 CyberX: you follow the gitar right?
2016-12-20 18:49 CyberX: it is 1/8
2016-12-20 18:49 lazyboy007: no the drum here
2016-12-20 18:49 lazyboy007: the guitar is not 1/6 i know
2016-12-20 18:49 lazyboy007: but the drums are
2016-12-20 18:50 CyberX: but the main sound here is the guitar
2016-12-20 18:50 lazyboy007: ye the guitar is indeed 1/8
2016-12-20 18:50 lazyboy007: ye but my hs being a kick
2016-12-20 18:50 lazyboy007: it 1/8 gives headaches
2016-12-20 18:50 CyberX: you hardly can hear the drump
2016-12-20 18:50 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:50 CyberX: drum*
2016-12-20 18:50 CyberX: omg loopks like trump
2016-12-20 18:51 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:51 lazyboy007: you racist I knew it
2016-12-20 18:51 CyberX: xD
2016-12-20 18:51 lazyboy007: nah I'll keep the 1/6 here that entire stream was supposed to follow the drums
2016-12-20 18:51 CyberX: you following the guitar with 1/4
2016-12-20 18:51 CyberX: xD
2016-12-20 18:52 lazyboy007: the drum is also 1/4 there
2016-12-20 18:52 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:52 CyberX: oh
2016-12-20 18:52 lazyboy007: ah well I'll change it if other mods mention it too
2016-12-20 18:52 CyberX: if you hear more closely
2016-12-20 18:52 CyberX: 04:01:763 (1) - this should be 1/8
2016-12-20 18:52 CyberX: and this 04:02:093 (2) -  1/6
2016-12-20 18:53 lazyboy007: eh maybe
2016-12-20 18:53 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:53 CyberX: xD
2016-12-20 18:53 CyberX: right?
2016-12-20 18:53 lazyboy007: I'll just keep it and if someone else mentions it I'll change it
2016-12-20 18:53 CyberX: okay
2016-12-20 18:53 CyberX: im hungry give me food
2016-12-20 18:54 lazyboy007: http://www.restaurantgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/chocs.jpg
2016-12-20 18:54 CyberX: 04:17:422 (7,8) - this is 1/6
2016-12-20 18:54 lazyboy007: no that's def 1/4 ;p
2016-12-20 18:55 lazyboy007: on 25% i can only hear 3 notes
2016-12-20 18:56 lazyboy007: also don't mention these
2016-12-20 18:56 lazyboy007: 04:25:499 (1,2) -
2016-12-20 18:56 lazyboy007: I know that they're not 1/6
2016-12-20 18:56 lazyboy007: they're both half 1/8 and half 1/6
2016-12-20 18:56 lazyboy007: xD
2016-12-20 18:56 lazyboy007: and I will not map that
2016-12-20 18:57 CyberX: `04:29:950 (3) - 
2016-12-20 18:57 CyberX: try to ignore the guitar sound here
2016-12-20 18:57 CyberX: and put slider at (2)
2016-12-20 18:58 CyberX: thats feels better
2016-12-20 18:58 lazyboy007: nah I jump is fine imo
2016-12-20 18:58 lazyboy007: a*
2016-12-20 18:58 CyberX: kidda intense imo
2016-12-20 18:58 CyberX: but nvm, its subjective
2016-12-20 18:58 lazyboy007: well it's not a big jump anyhow
2016-12-20 18:58 lazyboy007: I could even make it smaller
2016-12-20 18:59 lazyboy007: but 3 on 1's head
2016-12-20 18:59 lazyboy007: on 5's head*
2016-12-20 18:59 CyberX: that will make this too small
2016-12-20 19:00 lazyboy007: ye maybe
2016-12-20 19:00 lazyboy007: eh I'll keep what was there before
2016-12-20 19:00 CyberX: 05:18:906 (1,2) - 
2016-12-20 19:00 CyberX: idk whats the purpose
2016-12-20 19:01 lazyboy007: hm I should flip 1
2016-12-20 19:01 CyberX: 05:23:521 (1,2) - why you suddenly use sliders to map the drum xD
2016-12-20 19:01 lazyboy007: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6851198
2016-12-20 19:02 lazyboy007: because of the continuous guitar sounds
2016-12-20 19:02 lazyboy007: and because before the guitar bass was doing 1/4's
2016-12-20 19:02 lazyboy007: but not there
2016-12-20 19:02 lazyboy007: like that sound here isn't there 05:27:642 (2,3,4,5,6) -
2016-12-20 19:02 lazyboy007: so I didn't put streams but wanted the player to hold the note
2016-12-20 19:02 lazyboy007: so repeat slider
2016-12-20 19:03 CyberX: hahaa
2016-12-20 19:03 CyberX: good job
2016-12-20 19:04 CyberX: thats all i think

lazyboy007 wrote:

Sure thing thanks! Dunno if I should give kudos, gonna do so up to modders to decide if it's fair or not

EDIT: mods*

F1r3tar wrote:

lazyboy007 wrote:

Sure thing thanks! Dunno if I should give kudos, gonna do so up to modders to decide if it's fair or not

EDIT: mods*

I can't mod these types of maps. If you don't think it's fair, go ahead and get a bn to deny kds.

ProEzreal wrote:

Hello~ M4M from my queue

General

1. Storyboard image file dimensions and the BG dimensions are not up to good state, try finding one that is at least 1366x768 Found higher res image (need to update SB still)
2. Unused hitsounds:
   drum-hitclap2.wav
   drum-hitclap3.wav
   drum-hitclap4.wav
   normal-sliderslide.wav Fixed
3. Unused files: SB\white.png

Fixed

Insomniac

1. 00:55:170 (1) - 00:57:808 (1) - for such sounds, I really don't see any proper emphasis. 00:55:170 (1) - for this one, you could say you added more distance but then again, 00:53:852 (3,4) - this has a larger spacing than that so it wouldn't be really called emphasis. Keep in mind Personally don't think it needs a special emphasis, the guitar sound is low here and the finish is weak in the actual song, my finish just makes it an emphasis point, but it's not in the song itself I'd say
2. 00:57:808 (1,1,5,1) - I think it would give more emphasis if these were kicksliders, it would be really good to give a jump to reflect the finish Yeah messed around with it, it's not jumpy but it has kicksliders now
3. 01:15:610 (1,2,3,4) - I see that you tightened the spacing to let the players know that it is a 1/6 stream, but I think it would be nice to have a separate combo color for it. It may be a really big thing to ask for since you already finished your map but I think it would be a nice thing for players. Have a BN to check with this though, I'm not really sure if it's necessary either. Hm I honestly don't like doing that too much. I think it's perfectly readable as is, most of the playtesters read it flawlessly, they just mostly couldn't stream 270 bpm :^)
4. 02:04:401 (1) - What's up with the storyboard going full black suddenly here? Maybe make it fade starting from 02:03:082 (1) - and that would make it look more natural. Nah I like the sudden black there
5. 02:13:631 (1) - From here the storyboard has some unnatural effects going on, it's like lights flickering(?) Fixed, it was supposed to do stepwise gray colors
6. 02:33:411 (1) - better solution for the storyboard: make the fade effect start from here so it starts off with the original bg and slowly dims into the a black screen upto 02:36:049 (1) - here and add white.jpg here? Hm nah I like it as is
7. 03:18:906 (1,2,3,4) - this really confused me into thinking it was a 1/3 or something.. Yeah I know it's confusing but I settled with it not being spaced unlike all of my 1/3's, it's not optimal but i have no better solution

I really loved the streams here, not bad overall. Just a little more polishing of the map would be really nice. Thanks

Good luck!

Halfslashed wrote:

M4M from my queue
Map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/541555

Insomniac

Some of this mod will be quite general, since the map is pretty consistent but it could be much better.
You use a smaller CS, which can work out quite well, for maps like this, but when combined with the low playfield usage, it creates a cramped experience. Never thought about that, I tend to hate corners tbh
01:00:444 (1) to 01:08:357 (1) - From this section, you use basically the same patterning as what you did before, which wouldn't be a problem if you moved around the playfield more. For reference, this is what it currently looks like: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/NlHDJjG.jpg If you can find patterns that keep your spacing and angles though, combined with more playfield usage, you will get a much better result here. Fixed that section, will look at the rest and see what I can manage without breaking the map
02:04:401 (1,2,3) - I think this pattern (and the many similar ones) would work better if 2 was stacked at some point in the stream (like on 02:05:059 (5)). My intention there was to create a halt in the motion of the player, since there's no sound between 2 and 3. So no this wouldn't fit the idea I'm going for
02:22:532 (1,2,3,4,1) - Considering your 1/6 spacing earlier on, this is kinda hard to read. Not only that, but due to the guitar here, I'd imagine this deserves higher spacing rather than lower. Agreed, I reshaped the stream
03:02:422 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Pretty similar to what i mentioned above. Just use normal stacking or some more distinct spacing, these are very easy to misread with your 1/6 spacing. Disagree on these, I think they're easy to read, and even when misread, the slider below makes it so a mistimed hit isn't that penalizing
03:08:357 (1) - If you want to put pressure on this, move this towards the bottom right corner and increase the spacing more. Definitely
03:09:016 (1) - This could work better in the bottom left corner, especially if you take the suggestion above. Pretty important note here so you'd want to emphasize it. Agreed
03:16:433 (10) - Switching to the guitar makes more sense here than a 1/1 gap, since intensity isn't really dropping here and it's a good place to do so. Dislike this idea, I like the fact that they're a small sense of hanging after the snare, like it doesn't drop intensity, it's more like a waiting for it to continue a tiny bit later, def keeping this 1/1
03:39:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Why is this much lower spacing when intensity hasn't decreased? You were just building up intensity and your spacing reflected that before, so why is this so much lower? Lack of drums in the song itself, so I lowered spacing
03:41:543 (3,5) - Fix stack. Fixed
03:43:191 (4,2) - Overlap. Fixed
04:40:170 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try mapping more of this to 1/4 sliders, since you're following the guitar here. Messed around with that, good idea
05:35:390 (1) - There are notes on the red ticks after these 1/1 notes, why not try mapping sliders? You still get the emphasis needed since the red ticks aren't clicked and you can also use this chance to incorporate more variety. Yeah plays way better, I like that ^^

Playfield usage and variety is holding this map back. It's very consistent and uses good rhythms, and has some cool ideas (I loved this 03:45:280 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3)), but it needs some work in making it feel different. Thanks for the feedback, good mod :3 and ye variety was something I intentionally don't go for a lot when the song's repetitve like this one tbh. Playfield usage is something I seem to have struggles with, I never actually notice it and don't know how to fix it most of the time

Good luck!

Fanteer wrote:

Hey ( sorry for little mod ) Nah np, all mods are welcome :3

05:12:148 (4,6) - fix this overlap Nah 6 is equisdistant to 4 and 5, that's on purpose
05:12:313 (5,6) - also Why you make less a jump if compare with last jumps Guitar pitch gets lower
05:22:368 (2,5) - maybe blanket Hm I like this as is tbh
05:55:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - until this moment you don't use jumps on streams yeah there's a few but they're weaker, like 04:02:422 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - or 03:12:972 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which are also jumpstreams, but I just did a serious one at the end because it's really intense and because it's the most justifiable jumpstream imo
01:17:835 (2,6) - pls make blanket and stack with end of slider 01:17:588 (1,6) - Yeah never noticed that one :3
01:46:187 (5,1) - stack ? Fixed
03:22:697 (6,8) - bad overlap Moved 8
03:30:774 (1,1) - ^ moved a bit
05:05:225 (2,1) - ^ Fixed
02:24:840 (4,2) - pls fix overlap 2 is stacked on 4's end
02:28:466 (3,4) - 02:30:115 (6,7,8) - compare this jumps and 02:25:829 (2,3) - 02:27:312 (5,6,7,8) - Why you are changing spacing in jumps in one kiai ? Notes drop in tone so I drop the spacing, there's also something like a double guitar note in the bigger jumps. At least they feel more intense to me :p

Also there are some places in a map with bad flow. For example 05:27:971 (6,1) - Bad flow is sometimes on purpose but there it's not even really bad flow, it circles a bit weird but you can reach 1 by continuing the stream's cirular motion pretty easily imo

I think that you can to find same moments
GL Thanks

FuruSatori wrote:

gonna be honest wow NICE MAP Thanks a lot <3
not a whole lot i can mod here so i dont expect kudosu kds anyways, if moderators think it's not justified, just deny it :p I think it is since you took the time to look at my map

overall

03:07:368 (1,2,3,4,1) maybe make this a curved stream? looks kinda out of place I like it going straight tbh, will curve it if it's mentionned in more mods I guess ^^

not gonna lie wow why do u even need modding at this point man xD idk there's always trash to fix in maps
unless im just really dumb, i see almost nothing wrong with this map <3
great spacing, great HS, great storyboard, great consistency, fun too Thanks so much haha
good luck ranking!

1. 03:05:720 (7) - I would add a new combo here since there's a jump with the previous note just like you've done at 02:18:247 (1) -
2. 03:16:104 (6) - A new combo wouldn't be bad here, same reason as mentioned above. Do the same thing for 03:17:422 (6) -
3. 03:42:972 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - I am not really sure you should do something like this for the spacing. You're breaking the consistency and the jump looks weird. I would suggest you to move these objects in a way that the spacing will be consistent.

Gabe wrote:

hello there! m4m from #modreqs

Insomniac
You should uncheck the 'Widescreen Support' as the storyboard is not supported in widescreen. Unless you want to change the storyboard to make it compatible with widescreens users, which would be better, to be honest. I have no clue how to do that, this was my first time messing with the storyboard features ;p Toggled off widescreen support

1. 03:05:720 (7) - I would add a new combo here since there's a jump with the previous note just like you've done at 02:18:247 (1) - Yeah makes sense, done
2. 03:16:104 (6) - A new combo wouldn't be bad here, same reason as mentioned above. Do the same thing for 03:17:422 (6) - Yep
3. 03:42:972 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - I am not really sure you should do something like this for the spacing. You're breaking the consistency and the jump looks weird. I would suggest you to move these objects in a way that the spacing will be consistent. Not really 100% sure what you meant by this, but I moved the streams around a bit to have a more uniform spacing

There is nothing pretty much I could say, I really enjoy your beatmap! You'll have to work the storyboard a bit, but else, I believe the beatmap is ready to be qualified. I have no clue what I'm doing with the stroyboard tbh xD Thanks a lot though <3

Good luck! Ty

[Kamiya] wrote:

De~!page turning complete

BACK~

DONGDONGDONGDONGDONGDONGDADADADADADADA~ xD

[Insomniac]

02:39:181 (4,6) - not blanket Stacked 6 and 4

02:22:861 (1,2,3,4,2,3,4,5) - I think this way the same rhythm So maybe use the same distance's note. ye makes sense

03:18:906 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this way some conflicts with music..maybe change to 1/3 03:18:906 (1,2,3,4) - Especially here Pretty sure the drums and guitars are in 1/4th here :p

OK;; that's all;;

The BGMBPM is quick, so I can not hold this beatmap, maybe my mod is not good. because already to rank it's not THAT quick doe :3

GL~! Thx ^^

Kibbleru wrote:

as requested.

good map in general
ur 1/6 may be kinda hard to determine though, it would be nice if u could find a way to help determine the 1/6 such as through the usage of colorhaxing

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Hey, M4M from my modding Q~
I'll be waiting for your mod
I regret that I didn't look at the SR before I accepted this...
Let's see if I can mod properly (seemingly no)

Red : unrankable (or might be unrankable) issue
Blue : highly suggested to fix
Black : normal suggestion
Green : random comment
Bold : slightly more important than others

[Insomniac]

SPOILER

1. 00:52:121 (2,3) - Minor stuff, the appearance here is not really appealing imo since (1) and (3) is almost touching. The flow is look kinda pointy as well. Maybe you could try to move these kinda upward so it would look better and flow better as well. http://puu.sh/t1kDU/1f35906b7c.jpg Sure looks better
2. 00:59:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I don't know if you're trying to form something but I think if this is just "random" shape you better stack these 00:59:786 (1,1) - to make a closed pattern. Would look neater that way imo. Done ^^
3. 01:10:994 (1,3) - Almost touching. The flow here 01:11:242 (2,3) - is also pointy. Try to move (3) slightly upward. Maybe try to make a triangle pattern too http://puu.sh/t1kML/b4cb683383.jpg or maybe just stack (3)'s tail with 01:10:664 (5) - Moved 3
4. 01:14:126 (3,5) - Almost touchinnggg (I'm totally going nazi). Move (5) further to the right. If you don't want to make the space to far, just curve (5) a bit. Moved 5 accordingly
5. 01:21:215 (5) - NC here? Just like Kibbleru said, to distinct it from 1/6 pattern. Yeah I did that while applying Kibbleru's mod ^^
6. 02:24:840 (4,1) - I think they are should be placed further away because (1) is a start of kiai thus a very big sound yet it has less jump from 02:25:499 (1,2) - ctrl+h on 1 and moved
7. 02:57:148 (1) - Point the reverse slightly downward to make a better flow from previous note and make them 02:57:148 (1,2) - less touchy. Done, almost offscrceen tho
8. 05:23:521 (1,2) - Why is this tho.... I think you better map this part like you usually do... This is not really fitting, especially here 05:24:016 (2) - where the big sound land on reverse... Did that because the bass sound I was mapping on spots like here 05:02:422 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - wasn't there, so there was no reason to put streams there. The repeats are there to have the player hold the button during the prolonged guitar notes w/o ignore the drums ^^
9. 05:30:032 (8,1) - Make a space stream like here 05:31:269 (3,4) - because of music change maybe... ? Made it a slight jump, but no kickslider because these were used to represent the end of guitar notes in that section
10. 05:31:433 (4) - NC? The sound here is pretty big tbh. agreed
11. 05:33:411 (1,2) - No spacing between them? Usually you make them spaced. Moved up so it has 1.34x DS between both surrounding notes
12. 05:35:390 Actually I think you better use full 1/2 slider for this verse because there's no really change in the music so there's no really reason to map one with slider and other with circle. hm disagree here, the slidertails are there for the softer guitar melody, and on the places I put simple notes that melody isn't present ^^
13. 05:42:971 (6,7) - They are too close imo .-. You usually don't place notes this close. Well tension in that part is pretty low, that was on purpose

That's all I guess, I'm not good at modding hard maps and your map is already good afterall. Thanks ^^ helpful mod though
...your storyboard almost killed me, lol, jk All according to plan
Good luck~ thx ^^

1. BG dimenstions are so weird lo , probably resize , wont take much time zz

1. 00:50:060 (2,3) - 00:51:049 (2,3) - You used these everywhere so i can tell that thats how u wanted to make patterns for these sounds but at 00:50:225 - 00:51:214 - etc , these are the downbeats and melody sounds are intenser and an antijump ... uh its just not so fine for emphasis tbh
2. 01:05:060 (1,2,3) - well i can clearly tell that this pattern follows consistency properly but only the same sounds are supposed to have consistent rhythms and patterns , right? here the song is different , There are cymbals at end of both of those sliders 01:05:060 (1,3) - and therefor they should rather be clickable for proper emphasis and on top of that using something different will represent the change in song aswell.Same goes for the rest of these
3. 01:21:544 - ok so before this section u have used kick sliders everywhere for the sounds at 01:22:038 - but in this whole sections the kick sliders are replaced with circles only. why? tbh this section is actually intenser than the previous section , about 5% more intenser but still , Intenser parts should have more complexer rhythms and instead of doing that u just made them simpler here.Or if u are trying make some kind of variation in both sections than i would suggest u to use circles in first section and kicksliders in second.Same for other sections zzz
4. 01:41:324 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you should rather use a unique combo color for these 1/3's aswell like u did for those 1/6 since it would nicer and it will make the 1/3's much easier to read
5. 01:42:890 (2,3) - Really meh flow. Plays really awkwardly since the movement between 01:42:890 (2,3,4) - is totally linear which just doesnt feel fun to play actually
6. 01:56:489 (4,1) - Tbh this overlap is really sucky ,like more than 50% of their bodies overlap with each other . is it really necessary to do that?
7. 02:04:401 - Maybe the SB is wip , maybe not but i m getting a totally black screen here on bg which is not so cool
8. 02:11:983 (9,1) - well i know you have used 1.8 spacing for these notes everywhere in this section but it would be cooler if you increase the spacing to emphasize the cymbal more
9. 02:25:087 - Try lowering down hs volume here because it sounds really loud currently while the song gets twice as faint
10. 02:33:082 (5) - would rather be cool if you use circles instead, i mean its the kiai afterall and u even used circles for 1/6 in non-kiais and kiai is indeed supposed to be (Mostly) Harder
11. 03:16:433 (5) - oh please dont execute that snare at 03:16:598 - with a slider end , its rather an important one , DO make it clickable
12. 03:17:752 (5) - Same with that cymbal at 03:17:917 - .Should be cool if u remove the repeat of the slider and use a circle at downbeat instead.will be much much better
13. 03:18:906 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i listened to the song here very carefully about 20 times with 25% and i think that these circles are supposed to be snapped on 1/3 but i m still not sure cuz it also sounds close to 1/4 lol . Maybe get someone to confirm it
14. 03:43:631 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - No dont do this. It indeed is supposed to have a circle at 03:43:851 - and the 3 sliders should start from 03:43:961 - till 03:44:510 - since thats how the song suggests and thats how you are supposed to make that rhythm
15. 03:49:236 (4) - NC from emphasis
16. 04:54:510 (1) - Try Ctrl+g to continue the circular flow , plays much better
17. 05:24:016 (2) - ok i m guessing that making consistent rhythms made u bored but the rhythm you used here is really bad as u can hear the melody sound and cymbal sound at 05:24:181 - really emphasized in the song and executing them on slider repeat is really one of the worse things to do
18. 05:42:313 (2,3) - overkill spacing , u never used such high spacing for 1/4 where u have a repeat slider with a circle after it

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

M4M , sorry for delay
[General]

1. BG dimenstions are so weird lo , probably resize , wont take much time zz Maybe

[Insomniac]

1. 00:50:060 (2,3) - 00:51:049 (2,3) - You used these everywhere so i can tell that thats how u wanted to make patterns for these sounds but at 00:50:225 - 00:51:214 - etc , these are the downbeats and melody sounds are intenser and an antijump ... uh its just not so fine for emphasis tbh I like these, they represent the melody well imo (if you look at the beginning of _DT3's mod you'll see my justification)
2. 01:05:060 (1,2,3) - well i can clearly tell that this pattern follows consistency properly but only the same sounds are supposed to have consistent rhythms and patterns , right? here the song is different , There are cymbals at end of both of those sliders 01:05:060 (1,3) - and therefor they should rather be clickable for proper emphasis and on top of that using something different will represent the change in song aswell.Same goes for the rest of these The cymbal is extremely weak in the actual song, my hs shouldn't be taken as reference here
3. 01:21:544 - ok so before this section u have used kick sliders everywhere for the sounds at 01:22:038 - but in this whole sections the kick sliders are replaced with circles only. why? tbh this section is actually intenser than the previous section , about 5% more intenser but still , Intenser parts should have more complexer rhythms and instead of doing that u just made them simpler here.Or if u are trying make some kind of variation in both sections than i would suggest u to use circles in first section and kicksliders in second.Same for other sections zzz Did that to allow bigger jumps without making it uncomfortable (big jumps with kicksliders imo would've been worse) + it restricts my liberty in mapping and it makes for a repetitive map
4. 01:41:324 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you should rather use a unique combo color for these 1/3's aswell like u did for those 1/6 since it would nicer and it will make the 1/3's much easier to read 1/3 are readable by the fact that there's always a few 1/3 sliders before the stream, plus these streams are always spaced
5. 01:42:890 (2,3) - Really meh flow. Plays really awkwardly since the movement between 01:42:890 (2,3,4) - is totally linear which just doesnt feel fun to play actually should be better now
6. 01:56:489 (4,1) - Tbh this overlap is really sucky ,like more than 50% of their bodies overlap with each other . is it really necessary to do that? Fixed, probably
7. 02:04:401 - Maybe the SB is wip , maybe not but i m getting a totally black screen here on bg which is not so cool the sb sucks c: Gonna remove it I think
8. 02:11:983 (9,1) - well i know you have used 1.8 spacing for these notes everywhere in this section but it would be cooler if you increase the spacing to emphasize the cymbal more As said earlier, cymbals are an aretfact from my hs, they're really weak in the song
9. 02:25:087 - Try lowering down hs volume here because it sounds really loud currently while the song gets twice as faint Done
10. 02:33:082 (5) - would rather be cool if you use circles instead, i mean its the kiai afterall and u even used circles for 1/6 in non-kiais and kiai is indeed supposed to be (Mostly) Harder I did it initially but removed it because of a few reasons, 1) only 1/6 in the kiai 2) destroys flow 3) the song is about to lower intensity and you can clearly hear it dropping, so no need to push difficulty
11. 03:16:433 (5) - oh please dont execute that snare at 03:16:598 - with a slider end , its rather an important one , DO make it clickable ye
12. 03:17:752 (5) - Same with that cymbal at 03:17:917 - .Should be cool if u remove the repeat of the slider and use a circle at downbeat instead.will be much much better oke
13. 03:18:906 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i listened to the song here very carefully about 20 times with 25% and i think that these circles are supposed to be snapped on 1/3 but i m still not sure cuz it also sounds close to 1/4 lol . Maybe get someone to confirm it Pretty sure it's 1/4 but just about everyone I ask has another opinion on this
14. 03:43:631 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - No dont do this. It indeed is supposed to have a circle at 03:43:851 - and the 3 sliders should start from 03:43:961 - till 03:44:510 - since thats how the song suggests and thats how you are supposed to make that rhythm No the guitar actually goes offbeat there, that's what mapping
15. 03:49:236 (4) - NC from emphasis not needed
16. 04:54:510 (1) - Try Ctrl+g to continue the circular flow , plays much better Sure
17. 05:24:016 (2) - ok i m guessing that making consistent rhythms made u bored but the rhythm you used here is really bad as u can hear the melody sound and cymbal sound at 05:24:181 - really emphasized in the song and executing them on slider repeat is really one of the worse things to do That's not the actual reason haha, I was mapping to the bass guitar before and it's missing here, so I used repeats to make the user hold the button for the length of the guitar note, as well as not ignoring the snare kick patterns
18. 05:42:313 (2,3) - overkill spacing , u never used such high spacing for 1/4 where u have a repeat slider with a circle after it Agreed

Good map Thanks ^^ useful mod, sorry if I rejected a lot of it :p

• 01:11:242 (2) - Think about emphasizing the white tick more.
  01:13:879 (2) - ^ its okay here because you put a red anchor in the slider
  01:15:198 (2) - Red anchor feels to early placed, could be more emphasised with moving the red anchor, more to the start of the slider(the sound seems to be 1/6, before the white tick)
  01:16:516 (2) - Maybe putting a Anchor here
  03:34:071 (1) - I feel pretty wierd about it, feels like you stoped following your sliders on this sound but you just do it here.
  04:30:115 (4,5,1,2,3) - Maybe change the rythm choice here I think it doesnt fit to well. (I know you dont follow the the lound sound here, but I think if you would, it would be way better)
  04:45:279 (1,4,7,1) - I would use slideres here to follow the sounds I marked, feels a bit undermapped imo.
  04:59:455 (5,1) - Flow is really really uncomfortable.

Lucyyyyyyy wrote:

Hey,

• 01:11:242 (2) - Think about emphasizing the white tick more. I don't hear a sound on the white tick tbh
  01:13:879 (2) - ^ its okay here because you put a red anchor in the slider Maybe c:
  01:15:198 (2) - Red anchor feels to early placed, could be more emphasised with moving the red anchor, more to the start of the slider(the sound seems to be 1/6, before the white tick) I honestly don't really understand what sound you're referring to here, since to me this sounds like a continuous sound :/ I just changed between the slider shapes for variety ^^
  01:16:516 (2) - Maybe putting a Anchor here
  03:34:071 (1) - I feel pretty wierd about it, feels like you stoped following your sliders on this sound but you just do it here. The kicksliders were used to represent another sound, the high pitch of the guitar, but this being a crash I stuck with a change in direction, felt more fitting
  04:30:115 (4,5,1,2,3) - Maybe change the rythm choice here I think it doesnt fit to well. (I know you dont follow the the lound sound here, but I think if you would, it would be way better) Having a single continous slider here would be really boring imo and wouldn't represent the song correctly so I stuck with that, a slider on each beat and it fits ok imo
  04:45:279 (1,4,7,1) - I would use slideres here to follow the sounds I marked, feels a bit undermapped imo. I could, but the drum really is way louder here than the melody, if it gets mentionned more I'll change it ^^
  04:59:455 (5,1) - Flow is really really uncomfortable. Moved 4 and 5

awesome map wish you good luck with it. Thanks a lot ^^

Lucy~~~~~~~

PS: Its pure personal pref. what I did here, because imo. there is not much needed to change, maybe just some small tweaks here and there, but all in all this map is really nice enjoyed testplaying it xD. Thanks glad to hear ^^
even so I failed horribly I can't clear it consistently tbh

1. You should upscale your background using waifu2x, crop it to a 16:10 ratio and scale it down to 1920x1200
2. drum-hitfinish.wav has a 3-4 ms lag
3. SB:
   02:33:411 - 04:55:829 - 05:16:928 - are those fades to black intentional? they seem a bit weird to me, looks like you wanted to revert to the normal bg instead
   02:04:401 - maybe a softer fade that would begin on 02:03:906 - ?
   05:56:488 - seems like it'd be more appropriate to begin the fade to black here and end it on 05:57:148 -
   also the bg mysteriously reappears on 06:08:377 -
4. 02:15:774 (7,9) - the spacing seems relatively too big on those compared to the other stronger notes, also it isn't consistent (02:17:422 (9) - etc), this applies to the other similar patterns
5. 02:29:785 (3,7) - slight bad overlap
6. 02:33:741 (3,4) - spacing too short, how about placing (3) somewhere aounrd x230 y384
7. 03:18:988 (2) - this is overmapped, moreover, due to the previous 1/3 repeat sliders and the spacing, i read 03:18:906 (1,2,3,4) - as 1/3s
   i think it'd help to map a 1/2 slider on (1) that will not only prevent the overmap but help with reading that the stream goes back to 1/4s
8. 03:20:719 (2,1) - the spacing seems awfully small for such a strong beat
9. 03:22:697 (6,1) - bad overlap
10. 04:09:263 (5,2) - gnnnn just barely
11. 04:09:510 (6,3) - i'm not sure how i should feel about this, it's not that bad but surely could be better
    also bad overlap on 04:10:170 (3,4) -
12. 04:18:906 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - everywhere else in the map the circle is behind the second slider except for those, and since they don't play the same i believe you should stay consistent and change them to fit the others
13. 04:38:686 (1,6) - bad overlap
14. 05:01:104 (1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing is very tight here both aesthetically and practically, just putting (4) a bit farther up fixes it
15. 05:10:005 (5,3,4) - bad overlap
16. 05:23:521 (1,2,3) - the rhythm seems to make more sense like this:
    
    SPOILER

    

Alheak wrote:

Hey, from our modding queue

I will mod in English for more transparency.

1. You should upscale your background using waifu2x, crop it to a 16:10 ratio and scale it down to 1920x1200
2. drum-hitfinish.wav has a 3-4 ms lag Ok fixing
3. SB: I'm dropping the SB anyways, I don't like it
   02:33:411 - 04:55:829 - 05:16:928 - are those fades to black intentional? they seem a bit weird to me, looks like you wanted to revert to the normal bg instead
   02:04:401 - maybe a softer fade that would begin on 02:03:906 - ?
   05:56:488 - seems like it'd be more appropriate to begin the fade to black here and end it on 05:57:148 -
   also the bg mysteriously reappears on 06:08:377 -
4. 02:15:774 (7,9) - the spacing seems relatively too big on those compared to the other stronger notes, also it isn't consistent (02:17:422 (9) - etc), this applies to the other similar patterns Actually the first one you linked has its reason, it's because of the super high pitch on the guitar, I fixed 02:21:049 (7,8,9) -
5. 02:29:785 (3,7) - slight bad overlap Fixed
6. 02:33:741 (3,4) - spacing too short, how about placing (3) somewhere aounrd x230 y384 Changed the entire jump
7. 03:18:988 (2) - this is overmapped, moreover, due to the previous 1/3 repeat sliders and the spacing, i read 03:18:906 (1,2,3,4) - as 1/3s
   i think it'd help to map a 1/2 slider on (1) that will not only prevent the overmap but help with reading that the stream goes back to 1/4s Fixed
8. 03:20:719 (2,1) - the spacing seems awfully small for such a strong beat fixed, also flows better to the next stream
9. 03:22:697 (6,1) - bad overlap Now with 100% more stacking
10. 04:09:263 (5,2) - gnnnn just barely Rip
11. 04:09:510 (6,3) - i'm not sure how i should feel about this, it's not that bad but surely could be better
    also bad overlap on 04:10:170 (3,4) - Fixed this and the previous point by moving some stuff
12. 04:18:906 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - everywhere else in the map the circle is behind the second slider except for those, and since they don't play the same i believe you should stay consistent and change them to fit the others ye I hope it's good
13. 04:38:686 (1,6) - bad overlap Fixed
14. 05:01:104 (1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing is very tight here both aesthetically and practically, just putting (4) a bit farther up fixes it changed it all a bit
15. 05:10:005 (5,3,4) - bad overlap fixed too
16. 05:23:521 (1,2,3) - the rhythm seems to make more sense like this: the objective of this was for the note to be held on the guitars ^^ so I'm probably keeping this
    
    SPOILER

    

Mostly focused on spacing and flow, the latter being rather fine but the spacing feels a bit rushed, you should probably review it a bit.
Otherwise good map that looks nice and plays well. Thanks ^^

Good luck with the rest, I hope this was useful! Very much so

1. 01:05:060 (1,2,3) - I'm guessing you purposely ignored those 1/6s, but considering the guitar is going along with it and there are crash cymbals after each 1/6, it would feel more impactful if you mapped them, even as sliders, or you could also space this pattern a bit more, altough that would be a bit weird since they would look consistent with the others yet their spacing wouldn't, so imo replacing the 1/2s sliders with 1/6s repeat sliders with higher spacing between each would feel more impactful here
2. 01:09:840 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - those are toms, not snares, not sure if you intended to hitsound them that way but they would definitely sound better if you use the available toms you have, be sure to check for every drumrolls in the song as you did that a lot, and not consistently (which is why I'm not sure you intended it that way)
3. 01:30:775 (1,2) - did you intend to use that normal-sliderwhistle? They sound kinda random (and imo awful, I hate the normal whistle ;_;)
4. 01:40:005 (1,2) - clap on those snares? 01:40:169 (3,4,5,6) - and then use some of those beautiful toms you have, 01:40:500 (1) - and you're definitely missing a cymbal here
5. 01:41:654 (2) - the normal whistle again ;_; and 01:41:983 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - if you want to make the proper distinction here, it's 2 high toms then 2 mid and finally 2 low toms, which you have all of them (well technically the last one is a floor tom, but your low tom should be good enough eh)
6. 01:50:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - I find that pattern pleasant to look at
7. 01:52:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these should be snares, but I get the feeling you intended it that way here, not too sure if it sounds better though
8. 02:02:423 (1) - so here, it's probably fine that you skip the long 1/6 as it would be just repeat slider so sticking to the guitar is prolly better, but! 02:03:082 (1,2,3,4,5) - I have an alternative to this pattern here, because you did map the 1/6s quads before and here you are skipping on a 1/6 triplet, which I think you could map it with 2 circles followed by 2 sliders, which is then followed by 5 circles on 1/3 (that has the advantage of being more comfortable to play than 4), something alike in this example (feel to reorganize the objects around as you wish ofc, this was just a quick quirky example)
9. 02:14:950 (1,2) - personally I'm not a fan of those 3/4 long sliders leading into streams, I find them awkward to play, which is a pay-off bigger than what the longer sliders provides imo
10. 02:24:840 (4) - I'd suggest using a default soft-hitnormal for those notes, as there is no drums here and I feel like it would add a nice soft touch before going into the chorus
11. 02:44:950 (9,10,11) - not sure if intentionnal, but there is a 1/6 triplet here in the middle of the beat which I feel like you could map it about the same way as the example I gave above, although this one may not work as well
12. 02:48:576 (9,10) - I think extending those to 1/2s sliders and making a slight jump between the two would feel more impactful than this
13. 03:02:422 (1,2,3,4,1) - This rhythm feels weird, because you first start using circles on the guitar's accent, then a 03:02:587 (3) - 1/4 slider comes in on no accent, which is then 03:02:752 (4) - followed by another 1/4 slider but on the guitar's accent, and then rinse and repeat. This pattern is inconsistent within itself and feels awkward to play aswell, because of that. Moving the 1/4 sliders onto the accents and filling the inbetween with circles would feel much better, as it would properly emphasize the guitar here.
14. 03:15:609 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't agree with mapping the background drums, in the guitar solo, when you've been following the guitar up until now, even following the 1/3 guitar over 1/4 drums. It is neither consistent nor does it make more sense to map the drums here imo.
15. 03:18:906 (1) - Same goes for that whole stream here.
16. 03:26:818 (1) - As with before, I feel like you focus the drums too much during that guitar solo, which doesn't do it justice.
17. 03:33:740 (5) - Since you've been using 1/4 sliders on the accents before, why not using it here aswell?
18. 03:45:718 (4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - So, difficulty spike aside (since this is much above everything else you have in the map) the guitar is playing 16th notes starting from 03:45:774 - here, which again takes emphasis away from it, altough it isn't as bad here since the spacing is following the guitar's pitch, but tbh following the guitar would feel much better, along with nerfing that difficulty spike lol
19. 03:49:236 (4,5) - this should be 1/4, as the drums are switcing from 1/3 to 1/4 here
20. 04:00:773 (5,6,7,8) - those 4 notes could use some special emphasis instead of being a part of that compressed stream
21. 04:03:082 (1) - this feels better with the slider being ctrl+h'd and moved slightly to the right, like so
22. 04:24:181 (1,2,3) - Why using full on 3/4 sliders here? It isn't consistent with the way you mapped them before, and they don't cover a 1/6 drumroll either, would make more sense if you mapped them the same way as you did in all other instances
23. 04:44:949 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I believe you could make this stream look nicer, as you did before
24. 05:12:313 (5) - this slider feels a bit too close from the previous circle, I know you're kinda trying to stack the sliderend with another previous circle but I don't think it's worth it lol
25. 05:23:521 (1,2) - that slowdown feels quite out of place, I don't really see a justification for it in the song
26. 05:30:032 (8,1) - I don't this is necessary, especially since you haven't been using these for the whole map (except with that slider in the solo, which is really easy to play and since it led into a slider the leniency made it much more forgiving). Introducing jumpstreams this late into the map is a bad idea, as the player was not prepared for it. It also isn't really justified by the song either.
27. 05:33:411 (1) - the 1/6 drumroll keeps on going until the red tick here, there two 1/4 notes on the red and blue ticks, and then there is a 1/6 triplet
28. 05:33:741 (2) - here, which I feel you could map as circles, using the example I gave earlier, which would also make the following 1/3 stream odd number'd too. Also that stream could use some hitsounding lol
29. 05:35:390 (1) - imo this section should be more emphasized than it is now, using faster sliders and using only 1/2 sliders you could make some more visually interesting patterns
30. 05:50:554 (1,2,3) - again those are 1/6, they repeat the same point I made earlier, just pointing it out in case you didn't notice them
31. 05:55:829 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - yeah... remember what I said about introducting jumpstreams this late into the map? that's basically asking players to get mad at you for this lol

GoldenWolf wrote:

it's a me

These hitsounds are much longer than necessary, so here are some cleanly cut version of them:
drum-hitclap.wav (plus soft-hitclap aswell)
drum-hitfinish3.wav
drum-hitfinish4.wav
drum-hitnormal.wav (so 2,3 & 4, plus soft-hitnormal aswell)
drum-hitwhistle.wav
drum-hitwhistle2.wav
And this one has a 3ms delay that should also be cut, as here:
drum-hitfinish.wav

you could add ZUN to tags yep

1. 01:05:060 (1,2,3) - I'm guessing you purposely ignored those 1/6s, but considering the guitar is going along with it and there are crash cymbals after each 1/6, it would feel more impactful if you mapped them, even as sliders, or you could also space this pattern a bit more, altough that would be a bit weird since they would look consistent with the others yet their spacing wouldn't, so imo replacing the 1/2s sliders with 1/6s repeat sliders with higher spacing between each would feel more impactful here
2. 01:09:840 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - those are toms, not snares, not sure if you intended to hitsound them that way but they would definitely sound better if you use the available toms you have, be sure to check for every drumrolls in the song as you did that a lot, and not consistently (which is why I'm not sure you intended it that way) it was very well intended but I guess it does sound better if replace anything past 3 with toms
3. 01:30:775 (1,2) - did you intend to use that normal-sliderwhistle? They sound kinda random (and imo awful, I hate the normal whistle ;_;) My skin has no sliderwhislte haha so I didn't notice, but not on purpose (it's just that I selected the slider and added whistle on all the parts :p)
4. 01:40:005 (1,2) - clap on those snares? 01:40:169 (3,4,5,6) - and then use some of those beautiful toms you have, 01:40:500 (1) - and you're definitely missing a cymbal here That sounds way better indeed
5. 01:41:654 (2) - the normal whistle again ;_; and 01:41:983 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - if you want to make the proper distinction here, it's 2 high toms then 2 mid and finally 2 low toms, which you have all of them (well technically the last one is a floor tom, but your low tom should be good enough eh) fixed
6. 01:50:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - I find that pattern pleasant to look at #patternmagic
7. 01:52:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these should be snares, but I get the feeling you intended it that way here, not too sure if it sounds better though changed, it was intended since I loved the toms so much but yes it is better with snare
8. 02:02:423 (1) - so here, it's probably fine that you skip the long 1/6 as it would be just repeat slider so sticking to the guitar is prolly better, but! 02:03:082 (1,2,3,4,5) - I have an alternative to this pattern here, because you did map the 1/6s quads before and here you are skipping on a 1/6 triplet, which I think you could map it with 2 circles followed by 2 sliders, which is then followed by 5 circles on 1/3 (that has the advantage of being more comfortable to play than 4), something alike in this example (feel to reorganize the objects around as you wish ofc, this was just a quick quirky example) Fits better indeed, took a while to have it fit tho
9. 02:14:950 (1,2) - personally I'm not a fan of those 3/4 long sliders leading into streams, I find them awkward to play, which is a pay-off bigger than what the longer sliders provides imo I personally think they represent the song better than anything else, even though a bit awkward to play (since you have to alternate on 6 notes) but this map is filled with 4 streams, so 6 streams aren't a huges step-up in difficulty
10. 02:24:840 (4) - I'd suggest using a default soft-hitnormal for those notes, as there is no drums here and I feel like it would add a nice soft touch before going into the chorus yep sounds good
11. 02:44:950 (9,10,11) - not sure if intentionnal, but there is a 1/6 triplet here in the middle of the beat which I feel like you could map it about the same way as the example I gave above, although this one may not work as well Nah indeed doesn't really work that well imo ^^
12. 02:48:576 (9,10) - I think extending those to 1/2s sliders and making a slight jump between the two would feel more impactful than this Prefer keep these I find they represent the song nicely ^^ Though 1/2's fit too I guess
13. 03:02:422 (1,2,3,4,1) - This rhythm feels weird, because you first start using circles on the guitar's accent, then a 03:02:587 (3) - 1/4 slider comes in on no accent, which is then 03:02:752 (4) - followed by another 1/4 slider but on the guitar's accent, and then rinse and repeat. This pattern is inconsistent within itself and feels awkward to play aswell, because of that. Moving the 1/4 sliders onto the accents and filling the inbetween with circles would feel much better, as it would properly emphasize the guitar here. yeah makes sense
14. 03:15:609 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't agree with mapping the background drums, in the guitar solo, when you've been following the guitar up until now, even following the 1/3 guitar over 1/4 drums. It is neither consistent nor does it make more sense to map the drums here imo. idk I like what I have but I changed it, hopefully it fits now ^^
15. 03:18:906 (1) - Same goes for that whole stream here.
16. 03:26:818 (1) - As with before, I feel like you focus the drums too much during that guitar solo, which doesn't do it justice. i just can't bring myself to ignore those though ;_; it just feels so fitting like it is to me
17. 03:33:740 (5) - Since you've been using 1/4 sliders on the accents before, why not using it here aswell? no clue
18. 03:45:718 (4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - So, difficulty spike aside (since this is much above everything else you have in the map) the guitar is playing 16th notes starting from 03:45:774 - here, which again takes emphasis away from it, altough it isn't as bad here since the spacing is following the guitar's pitch, but tbh following the guitar would feel much better, along with nerfing that difficulty spike lol Well many people complained about this so it's nerfed x) Though I'm keeping the rhythm
19. 03:49:236 (4,5) - this should be 1/4, as the drums are switcing from 1/3 to 1/4 here I thought so but I got contradicted a few times oh well fixed
20. 04:00:773 (5,6,7,8) - those 4 notes could use some special emphasis instead of being a part of that compressed stream Fixed but I'm not sold on my own stream shape I'll recheck tomorrow or so
21. 04:03:082 (1) - this feels better with the slider being ctrl+h'd and moved slightly to the right, like so Definitely
22. 04:24:181 (1,2,3) - Why using full on 3/4 sliders here? It isn't consistent with the way you mapped them before, and they don't cover a 1/6 drumroll either, would make more sense if you mapped them the same way as you did in all other instances well in all the other instances it was mapped differently and none of the others had any similar pattern between them either :/ the drum just feels different, and I think this is fine, but idk tbh. I'll change it if mentionned again
23. 04:44:949 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I believe you could make this stream look nicer, as you did before (implying it doesn't look nice hmpf) changed a bit idk if that's what you wanted:p
24. 05:12:313 (5) - this slider feels a bit too close from the previous circle, I know you're kinda trying to stack the sliderend with another previous circle but I don't think it's worth it lol I didn't know it was stacked on another note xD But that pattern is actually consistent with other instances of this melody, since 4 was always closer to 5 than the other notes
25. 05:23:521 (1,2) - that slowdown feels quite out of place, I don't really see a justification for it in the song Well I wanted the player to hold the notes of the guitar w/o ignoring the 1/2 drum. Also couldn't map it like the rest since the bass guitar I've been following is missing here
26. 05:30:032 (8,1) - I don't this is necessary, especially since you haven't been using these for the whole map (except with that slider in the solo, which is really easy to play and since it led into a slider the leniency made it much more forgiving). Introducing jumpstreams this late into the map is a bad idea, as the player was not prepared for it. It also isn't really justified by the song either. well it's the same spacing as 03:12:972 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - but I nerfed it a bit
27. 05:33:411 (1) - the 1/6 drumroll keeps on going until the red tick here, there two 1/4 notes on the red and blue ticks, and then there is a 1/6 triplet How do you even hear that ._. I've been stuck on that for so long
28. 05:33:741 (2) - here, which I feel you could map as circles, using the example I gave earlier, which would also make the following 1/3 stream odd number'd too. Also that stream could use some hitsounding lol Hitsounded the stream, but I kept the slider since the strong beat is after that slider, plus I can't make it really nice to read without that one slider
29. 05:35:390 (1) - imo this section should be more emphasized than it is now, using faster sliders and using only 1/2 sliders you could make some more visually interesting patterns I felt this represented the guitar melody the best, while making the strong kicks the main focus, and so I don't think I'm chaning it :p
30. 05:50:554 (1,2,3) - again those are 1/6, they repeat the same point I made earlier, just pointing it out in case you didn't notice them yep
31. 05:55:829 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - yeah... remember what I said about introducting jumpstreams this late into the map? that's basically asking players to get mad at you for this lol c:

aight that's about it I think, I didn't point out every hitsounds mishaps, as I don't know if they are all intentional or not, but I believe you should go check all of them by yourself I'll go through the map again a few times anyways and fix stuff on my own ^^

Overall I'd say it is a nice map that has potential, with some more cleanup work on it you could very well get it ranked, good luck! Thanks a lot for the great mod

1. Maybe do your 1/2 stacks like 00:50:060 (2,3) - a bit more visually different from spacing of your 1/4 streams.
2. And I died so will continue tomorrow ^^'
3. You don't have any SB so disable epilepsy warning.
4. 02:03:412 (4,1) - Would be nice to have same spacing than rest of the stream to be coherent with rhythm all along.
5. 02:57:477 (2,3) - The next circle is super hard to catch with the different rhythm + due to end of the reverse slider who is not on the good side, making the restart of your flow at the opposite and break totally the movement of your pattern.
6. 03:06:214 (6,7,1) - I would rather stack them totally tbh.
7. 03:12:972 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I kinda get your idea, but I think you should make the spacing decreasing more progressively instead of grouping by 2 your 4 notes like 03:13:302 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - .
8. 03:41:324 (1,2) - Imo to keeping the movement from previous reverse, the 1/3 stream should go in top direction.
9. 03:43:302 (1,2) - Spacing pls
10. 04:02:998 (8,1) - Spacing pls²
11. 04:19:813 (5,1) - Overlapping triggered.
12. 04:22:368 (5,6,7,1) - Nice diffspike, clearly too different from others before.
13. 04:52:697 (7,8) - Shouldn't be like 04:52:038 (2,3) - or at least 04:52:532 (6,7) - ?
14. 05:33:659 (2,3) - Wut ? Is that supposed to be like that ? That's suuuper weird for a 1/3 no ?
15. 05:57:148 - Soft hitsound pls.
16. Also I think you should try to improve some of your stream shapes (03:55:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - / 03:35:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example) who could be a bit more clean.

Nozhomi wrote:

First, indicate on map description than 1/6 are red, it could help. Will do.

[Insomniac :]

1. Maybe do your 1/2 stacks like 00:50:060 (2,3) - a bit more visually different from spacing of your 1/4 streams. Sure I'll reduce spacing to lower than any of the streams.
2. And I died so will continue tomorrow ^^' May your soul rest in peace. Amen.
3. You don't have any SB so disable epilepsy warning. Yup I forgot that
4. 02:03:412 (4,1) - Would be nice to have same spacing than rest of the stream to be coherent with rhythm all along. yep
5. 02:57:477 (2,3) - The next circle is super hard to catch with the different rhythm + due to end of the reverse slider who is not on the good side, making the restart of your flow at the opposite and break totally the movement of your pattern. Moved the entire 1/3 to the left some
6. 03:06:214 (6,7,1) - I would rather stack them totally tbh. Wasn't sure if I should initially, since this would be the only autostack in the map, but I guess it fits
7. 03:12:972 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I kinda get your idea, but I think you should make the spacing decreasing more progressively instead of grouping by 2 your 4 notes like 03:13:302 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . I do believe this fits nicely though, since the guitar sound decreases in pitch a lot more suddenly than a continuous sound. Also, with the intensity of the snare in this part, it makes sense to streamjump like I did imo. And I don't quite understand what you mean by groupings of 2? unless you wanted me to decrease the spacing of the jumps in between the streams progressively, which would indeed make sense in this part EDIT: nvm I misunderstood fixed
8. 03:41:324 (1,2) - Imo to keeping the movement from previous reverse, the 1/3 stream should go in top direction. I wanted to break flow here, just like I did on 03:41:653 (4) - because the pitch of the guitar shifts up by a few notes
9. 03:43:302 (1,2) - Spacing pls fixed
10. 04:02:998 (8,1) - Spacing pls² yeah I knew that was coming hehe, fixed
11. 04:19:813 (5,1) - Overlapping triggered. Whoops fixed
12. 04:22:368 (5,6,7,1) - Nice diffspike, clearly too different from others before. I guess i derped yesterday when moving that (or 2 days ago idk) fixed
13. 04:52:697 (7,8) - Shouldn't be like 04:52:038 (2,3) - or at least 04:52:532 (6,7) - ? yep another derp, fixed
14. 05:33:659 (2,3) - Wut ? Is that supposed to be like that ? That's suuuper weird for a 1/3 no ?yeeee it's supposed to be, as GoldenWolf pointed out, the battery does first 1/6, then a single 1/4 then into full 1/3 this is the most reasonable way to map I found EDIT: changed to kickslider, should be better on readability
15. 05:57:148 - Soft hitsound pls. oke
16. Also I think you should try to improve some of your stream shapes (03:55:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - / 03:35:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example) who could be a bit more clean. I like the 2 you pointed out, although the kickslider could be aligned better. I'll take another look through the map then ^^

I hope I didn't forget smth :thinking:

Mukyu~

Nozhomi wrote:

We did some more cleaning on patterns / streams.

Let's give it a try for that young mapper~

F1r3tar wrote:

Can a bn deny my kudos?

Literally what I did back then was an NC mod, and not even a good one at that.

Hobbes2 wrote:

grats on the bub lazyboy, you've come a long way dude!