Nozhomi wrote:

First, indicate on map description than 1/6 are red, it could help. Will do.

[Insomniac :]

1. Maybe do your 1/2 stacks like 00:50:060 (2,3) - a bit more visually different from spacing of your 1/4 streams. Sure I'll reduce spacing to lower than any of the streams.
2. And I died so will continue tomorrow ^^' May your soul rest in peace. Amen.
3. You don't have any SB so disable epilepsy warning. Yup I forgot that
4. 02:03:412 (4,1) - Would be nice to have same spacing than rest of the stream to be coherent with rhythm all along. yep
5. 02:57:477 (2,3) - The next circle is super hard to catch with the different rhythm + due to end of the reverse slider who is not on the good side, making the restart of your flow at the opposite and break totally the movement of your pattern. Moved the entire 1/3 to the left some
6. 03:06:214 (6,7,1) - I would rather stack them totally tbh. Wasn't sure if I should initially, since this would be the only autostack in the map, but I guess it fits
7. 03:12:972 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I kinda get your idea, but I think you should make the spacing decreasing more progressively instead of grouping by 2 your 4 notes like 03:13:302 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . I do believe this fits nicely though, since the guitar sound decreases in pitch a lot more suddenly than a continuous sound. Also, with the intensity of the snare in this part, it makes sense to streamjump like I did imo. And I don't quite understand what you mean by groupings of 2? unless you wanted me to decrease the spacing of the jumps in between the streams progressively, which would indeed make sense in this part EDIT: nvm I misunderstood fixed
8. 03:41:324 (1,2) - Imo to keeping the movement from previous reverse, the 1/3 stream should go in top direction. I wanted to break flow here, just like I did on 03:41:653 (4) - because the pitch of the guitar shifts up by a few notes
9. 03:43:302 (1,2) - Spacing pls fixed
10. 04:02:998 (8,1) - Spacing pls² yeah I knew that was coming hehe, fixed
11. 04:19:813 (5,1) - Overlapping triggered. Whoops fixed
12. 04:22:368 (5,6,7,1) - Nice diffspike, clearly too different from others before. I guess i derped yesterday when moving that (or 2 days ago idk) fixed
13. 04:52:697 (7,8) - Shouldn't be like 04:52:038 (2,3) - or at least 04:52:532 (6,7) - ? yep another derp, fixed
14. 05:33:659 (2,3) - Wut ? Is that supposed to be like that ? That's suuuper weird for a 1/3 no ?yeeee it's supposed to be, as GoldenWolf pointed out, the battery does first 1/6, then a single 1/4 then into full 1/3 this is the most reasonable way to map I found EDIT: changed to kickslider, should be better on readability
15. 05:57:148 - Soft hitsound pls. oke
16. Also I think you should try to improve some of your stream shapes (03:55:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - / 03:35:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example) who could be a bit more clean. I like the 2 you pointed out, although the kickslider could be aligned better. I'll take another look through the map then ^^

I hope I didn't forget smth :thinking:

Mukyu~

Nozhomi wrote:

We did some more cleaning on patterns / streams.

Let's give it a try for that young mapper~

F1r3tar wrote:

Can a bn deny my kudos?

Literally what I did back then was an NC mod, and not even a good one at that.

Hobbes2 wrote:

grats on the bub lazyboy, you've come a long way dude!

1. Just let auto stacking do its job instead of trying to do this inconsistent-manual stacking. Stuff like x, y, and z get really annoying.
2. 01:55:665 (7) - Fix your structure. It isn't forming a star with the pattern.
3. 01:59:786 (1) - The orientation of this slider creates uncomfortable movement in 01:59:456 (6,7,1). The way you had 01:58:961 (3,4,5,6,7) arranged means every jump is an acute angle. Thus, you indicated that every jump in the pattern will have sharp angle flow, but as this shows, you're creating a wide angle, which breaks that logic.
   
   I would recommend to stack (7) underneath (3) to fix this.
4. 02:44:126 (2,3,4) - This is the climax from the buildup, so why use much lower spacing? Also, shouldn't you follow spacing emphasis in accordance to the guitar dropping in strength for this combo?
5. 03:05:060 (1) - Shouldn't you use a slider instead to emphasize this instrument?
6. 03:17:258 - I don't think you should just completely ignore this percussion sound outright. At least with the other sounds, you had a slider body passing through them to at least acknowledge those instruments.
7. 03:21:378 (5,6) - For some reason, I find it hard to tell that this is a 1/2 gap; playfield spacing doesn't seem to make it obvious. Perhaps NC to make this more clear?
8. 03:41:653 (4) - NC
9. 04:01:763 (1,2) - 1/4, not 1/6
10. 04:24:181 (1,2,3) - Increase the sv per slider. There's a quick buildup, but you're not really emphasizing it.
11. 05:11:653 (1,2,3,4,5) - 05:12:313 (5,6,7) - 05:44:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Fix your structure.
12. 05:22:862 (5,6) - Don't do this. It doesn't fit with the way you've been angling sliders in relation to each other.

F1r3tar wrote:

don't give kudos

1. Just let auto stacking do its job instead of trying to do this inconsistent-manual stacking. Stuff like x, y, and z get really annoying. I don't like auto-stacks, they don't allow me to control where movement flows (since even the almost stacked notes in my map have some kind of flow to them)
2. 01:55:665 (7) - Fix your structure. It isn't forming a star with the pattern. It wasn't supposed to form a star either, I wanted 4 and 6 to be somewhat separate from 3 5 7 because the sounds are different (just like I do on all other 3-4-5-6-7 patterns of the section)
3. 01:59:786 (1) - The orientation of this slider creates uncomfortable movement in 01:59:456 (6,7,1). The way you had 01:58:961 (3,4,5,6,7) arranged means every jump is an acute angle. Thus, you indicated that every jump in the pattern will have sharp angle flow, but as this shows, you're creating a wide angle, which breaks that logic. My intention is different on these patterns. Flow is decent (http://puu.sh/wREKB/e3b8b7e32d.jpg) But I need to differenciate 01:59:786 (1) - just like I did every time before. Take 01:53:687 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - or 01:55:005 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - where 1 always breaks the logic of the jump ^^
   
   I would recommend to stack (7) underneath (3) to fix this.
4. 02:44:126 (2,3,4) - This is the climax from the buildup, so why use much lower spacing? Also, shouldn't you follow spacing emphasis in accordance to the guitar dropping in strength for this combo? Hm, I feel like tension drops at that point, since the kickdrum stops playing, and the pitch of the guitar actually drops. Doesn't feel like a climax and I won't map it like one. Also since the triples are mapped to the drums, and are already pretty low spacing, I don't find that changing spacing within the triples was worth it. It would be a very minor change, and not very noticeable either (I also don't want it to look like the 1/6 streams)
5. 03:05:060 (1) - Shouldn't you use a slider instead to emphasize this instrument? I'm following the bass guitar so no, would break my logic.
6. 03:17:258 - I don't think you should just completely ignore this percussion sound outright. At least with the other sounds, you had a slider body passing through them to at least acknowledge those instruments. Nah my focus on that section is on the lead guitar, I originally mapped it to the drums, but this is way more fitting imo
7. 03:21:378 (5,6) - For some reason, I find it hard to tell that this is a 1/2 gap; playfield spacing doesn't seem to make it obvious. Perhaps NC to make this more clear? Well idk what else it could be but a 1/2 gap. I don't use streamjumps that big nor do I have any 1/1 gaps in intense sections like this. Also, it's spaced exactly like other 1/2 jumps. NC'ing it would also completely break my NC rules, so I'm keeping this as is.
8. 03:41:653 (4) - NC If I NC this, there's a lot of NC's I'd have to change. This fits in my logic, it's not an especially strong sound, just the guitar changing pitch. 03:40:335 (5) - is the same, or this 03:57:477 (5) - and many others in the map.
9. 04:01:763 (1,2) - 1/4, not 1/6 That's definitely 1/6
10. 04:24:181 (1,2,3) - Increase the sv per slider. There's a quick buildup, but you're not really emphasizing it. Doesn't seem needed imo. The buildup is felt through the fact that 1 can be held, but 2 has a quick 1/4 gap at the end and 3 has an even bigged jump following it into 1/6 sliders, seems enough to me ^^
11. 05:11:653 (1,2,3,4,5) - 05:12:313 (5,6,7) - 05:44:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Fix your structure. I don't want them to be perfect stars/triangles. I don't use any perfect stars in the map at all. If this was an edm or more electronic song I would, but this more organic structure is something I like in metal ^^ Also, it allows me to play with spacing more freely, which I did here in all those examples.
12. 05:22:862 (5,6) - Don't do this. It doesn't fit with the way you've been angling sliders in relation to each other. 05:20:225 (4,5) - what about this? and a few others. It's one of the few ways I used to place my sliders in the sections and doesn't really feel out of context.

Genjuro wrote:

hey nice map buddy, i just wanted to say that i don't really like the rhythm used here 05:23:521 (1,2) - maybe you can change it.

Irreversible wrote:

00:52:698 (2,3) - Why are these sometimes so weirdly stacked? Is there a sense behind that or nah o.o Please doublecheck those

lazyboy007 wrote:

I don't like auto-stacks, they don't allow me to control where movement flows (since even the almost stacked notes in my map have some kind of flow to them)

Irreversible wrote:

Insomniac

00:52:698 (2,3) - Why are these sometimes so weirdly stacked? Is there a sense behind that or nah o.o Please doublecheck those ayy as f1r3tar said above, tho I must admit it's one of my most contested patterns in the map
00:56:654 (4,5) - Why is the spacing here so low? In the patterns before it never was so small. Uh no clue why I did that, fixed
00:57:808 - Just a question here. Why exactly do you cover the strong beat with a slider here? And why is the jump not on the strong finish? As of right now, I think it would make more sense if the rhythm was like this: http://puu.sh/xbUjC/97cc9db1bd.jpg (I've done changes to 4 and 5 6 in this picture). If you agree, please adjust it in every following pattern which is like this too. I do feel like this makes more sense like this. True I've even done that for all the streams in the solo, redid the stream entirely
01:19:154 (2) - Nothing major but any reason for that one not being round? Kind of breaks the consistency haha - the inconsistency actually happens in quite a lot of areas, so it would be cool if you could use those slidershapes a bit more thoughtfully! uh nope no reason indeed I used some of those in the higher pitch part because it looks like it'd fit higher intensity but doesn't fit here
01:50:802 (2,3,4) - The blankets here look different everytime. Please make that a bit more consistent for visuals. I don't quite get what you mean here, they're all blanketted ar 2x spacing
01:54:511 - What i'd find actually quite cool would be if you could use the sosaid slidershapes for higherpitched parts like this. You could also use them to get out of this snappy movement, whenever there is such a highpitch. How about something like this? I mean it'd need some restructure, but I believe that it could be beneficial for your map. http://puu.sh/xbUtH/3fc8653d39.jpg I don't want to have linear flow in those parts but I could replace all the rounded sliders with the red anchor ones, would probably make more sense indeed
01:55:005 (3,4,5,6,7) - Not necessary but I could see a starpattern fitting here xD I have actually intentionally refrained from using any geometrical patterns as those feel more fitting for edm while metal feels nicer with wild organic patterns :3
02:17:258 (8) - AGain rather aesthetical, but how about 328 116? ye looks nicer
02:28:796 (5,6) - 6 is quite emphasized in the song but underemphasized in the map here. Could you please raise the distance? Hm I feel the lower spacing here is justified as pitch goes much lower and even the next note has higher pitch
02:33:576 (2,4) - Obviously, not everyone has to like blankets but in this map it seems like you accidentally missed out some. Would be neat if you could add it here, nevertheless. Definitely
02:40:169 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - I suggest smoothing out these curves a bit like http://puu.sh/xbUBm/53cde65029.jpg this. AT the moment it plays pretty flowless and weird for no real reason in the song Fixed :3
02:44:126 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Why did you hitsound in doubles here? I'm decently sure these are doubles. Might be wrong
03:48:466 (3,1) - blanket Smoothed out I hope
04:03:082 (1) - As i told you already in discord, that slider is done pretty sloppily. I can't really do it well too now, so we'll do that later (unless you can fix it by yourself already) ye I'll try but tbh, I don't quite know how to improve it x)
04:05:829 (1) - If any issues from above repeat, please fix them up Donezo!
05:27:642 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Similar to above, I think you should work on the flow here. Siimply by putting the second stream to another spot will already help a lot (consult screen from above, it's similar) Fixed! flow on the jump afterwards might be awkward now though, I'll try and mess around
05:35:719 (2) - Use the same shape as 05:35:390 (1) - ? (you did it too 05:36:379 (1,2) - ) Redid the shapes, they didn't make much sense before tbh

Alright, so that's it for the mod now. Even though this is bubbled, I don't think that some more mods would hurt, as sometimes simply some polishing of the map is missing (main concern of the mod). Rhythm was fine more or less, placement too, but sometimes it looked yet a bit sloppy. So if you could work on that first, that'd be great! Sure thing!

I'll pop the bubble for now, but if I see improvement we'll call the bubbler to rebubble (if he's still willing to) and then I will do a recheck. Aight thanks a lot

Until then~

Stoof wrote:

00:54:703 (2,3) -

Naotoshi wrote:

as requested

aes

00:58:797 (1,2,3) - to me this kind of thing looks a bit odd as other streams lead into the curve of the slider and this one goes other way Tru fixed

01:15:610 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not aes but i think making this 2 bursts would actually be better, more comfortable to play It was 2 bursts originally and was actually a lot more painful hehe, I like the slider leniency on this.

01:41:324 (1) - shouldnt these be red too cuz not 1/4 Hm I only marked 1/6 with red, 1/3 are readable through spacing ^^

01:45:939 (4,5,6) - this visual spacing can be improved by equalizing 5-6 and 4-6 Blanketting 5 to 4 works too

01:51:874 (1,2,3) - same kinda deal here Yep, did the same thing

02:09:181 - weird not to do something on this finish - kicksliders might work better I find them weak enough in the song to actually ignore, but my hitsounds do make it stand out more. May come back on this tho

02:18:247 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - the visual spacing of 5 looks a bit meh, you could put it in the middle of the blanket instead?
obviously the mtion would be different but it might look better >.>

02:18:906 (1,2,3) - also moving 1 down a bit might look nicer so it leads into the burst better Fixed both the above at once (hopefully)

02:26:488 (5,2,3) - equal spacing ? ye

02:28:796 (5,6,7) - equal spacing, also making 5 go the other direction like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8926625 might look better so the follow points lead into the curve Ya does look and play better

02:39:346 (5,6) - not aes but i feel like ctrl g on 5 (and subsequently 6) would be a nicer pattern since 5 looks really underspaced atm I do find it good to have 5 on lower spacing as the pitch is much lower than previous notes ^^ Will keep in mind might apply later anyways

02:47:401 - personal preference but there were cute 1/3 pianos you could randomly switch to to fuck people up I don't think I wanna trip up players even more xD

02:56:406 (4,1) - and 02:56:735 (4,1) - are basically the same thing but the transition angle is very different, the 1st one has a sharp anle change 2nd one doesn't, kinda weird. True but in both cases it flows well so idk if it's really major. Also, upon closer listeningification you can notice second snare is much weaker than the first.

03:18:906 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this should definitely be 1/3? following the guitar Always been a major point of hesitation for me :/ there's both 1/3 and 1/4's playing there

03:23:521 (1,2,3,4) - looks kinda weird cuz the follow points don't go into the curve moved some stuff

03:24:428 (4,5,6) - this sharp angle seems a bit unsupported by the song imo 03:24:510 (5,5) - both notes here have a dip in pitch, hence the sharp angle

03:44:071 (2,3) - ddude these 2 finishes on slider ends lmao Hard descision to take but guitar > finishes, didn't want a radom 2+2 streamjump either

04:18:576 (6,1) - seems like 1 is a bit underspaced Fixed

04:19:813 (5,6,1) - omg visual spacing plz Visual spacing is but a figment of your imagination :^) Fixed



anyway out of time but this is basically same few issues: sliders randomly have uneven visual spacing sometimes and follow points not really leading into streams. pm me if you have any questions! Gonna take another look this weekend

• [Insomniac]

1. 00:54:511 (1,3) - i think it should be straight sliders since you use mostly straight sliders at the beginning. 00:58:137 (5) - and here too but also because 1/4 sliders with curves looks strange. this applies to all same sliders so just keep it in mind while you go through the map
2. 01:15:993 (5,6,7) - it's minor but for me (7) stands out too much because of that little difference in spacings
3. 01:16:269 (1) - should be a slider with curve, i suppose. because you use it in a previous similar part
4. 01:35:885 (2,3) - that looks different from other stacks you did in that way or it's just me
5. 01:40:939 (3,4) - strange spacing but i can assume that you did it for a sake of emphasis (you can check all similar patterns on spacing problems because i don't want to spam with it)
6. 01:49:236 (1) - if you accepted my previous point about slider with curve - you can change it here as well (and in next part too)
7. 01:58:191 (5,6,7) - there's some really strange differences in spacing
8. 02:30:115 (6,1) - 04:32:587 (2,4) - 04:58:961 (3,5) - broken stacks, there's some other so don't forget to check all your stacks. you may ignore it if it's just a problem with my monitor
9. 02:47:258 (9) - wha, i dunno but something like that looks better
10. 02:58:357 (8,2) - pain
11. 03:18:906 (1) - straight slider would be better
12. 03:41:983 - follow points in streams in that part not really attractive, you can change some spacing manually to remove them or do nothing, it's up to you anyway

tokiko wrote:

hi

• [Insomniac]

1. 00:54:511 (1,3) - i think it should be straight sliders since you use mostly straight sliders at the beginning. But that has been changed from aru's mod 00:58:137 (5) - and here too but also because 1/4 sliders with curves looks strange. this applies to all same sliders so just keep it in mind while you go through the map I use some curved kicks works well imo in the flowy streams 03:31:428 - f.ex.
2. 01:15:993 (5,6,7) - it's minor but for me (7) stands out too much because of that little difference in spacings Fixed
3. 01:16:269 (1) - should be a slider with curve, i suppose. because you use it in a previous similar part Fixed
4. 01:35:885 (2,3) - that looks different from other stacks you did in that way or it's just me Nah same snapping
5. 01:40:939 (3,4) - strange spacing but i can assume that you did it for a sake of emphasis (you can check all similar patterns on spacing problems because i don't want to spam with it) How do you even see that. Nah that's not on purpose Fixed
6. 01:49:236 (1) - if you accepted my previous point about slider with curve - you can change it here as well (and in next part too) I'm guessing you meant 01:47:912 (1) - and I'm fixing
7. 01:58:191 (5,6,7) - there's some really strange differences in spacing Again how? xD Thanks and fixed
8. 02:30:115 (6,1) - 04:32:587 (2,4) - 04:58:961 (3,5) - broken stacks, there's some other so don't forget to check all your stacks. you may ignore it if it's just a problem with my monitor ye none are broken on my side,
   probably just res stuff ^^
9. 02:47:258 (9) - wha, i dunno but something like that looks better Tru
10. 02:58:357 (8,2) - pain 05:34:285 (3,5) - such horrible pain :3
11. 03:18:906 (1) - straight slider would be better Indeed
12. 03:41:983 - follow points in streams in that part not really attractive, you can change some spacing manually to remove them or do nothing, it's up to you anyway Nah won't change spacing because of followpoints,
    I'm stronger than they are! (tbh not needed, I want it to be more spaced than the other 1/3's)

OnosakiHito wrote:

Just a side note about the tags:

This is not Yumemi Okazaki's theme. It is Kana Anaberal's one.
Both character's come from the same game "東方夢時空　～ The Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream", but have different themes. Okazaki's theme is
"Strawberry Crisis!!"
https://de.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Kana_Anaberal
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/List_by_ ... .27s_theme

OnosakiHito wrote:

Don't have to kd for this.

Realazy wrote:

irc

23:03 Realazy: d
23:04 lazyboy007: e
23:04 Realazy: à vue d'oeil c'est pas vraiment récurrent les overlaps dans ta map mais
23:04 Realazy: 00:50:550 (5,6,7,8,1,4) - ça me ddddddddddd
23:05 lazyboy007: y'en a qqsuns je sais
23:05 lazyboy007: ah
23:05 lazyboy007: j'avais pas vu
23:05 Realazy: tu map avec les hit animations?
23:05 lazyboy007: fix
23:05 lazyboy007: ye
23:05 lazyboy007: uh
23:05 lazyboy007: enfin
23:05 lazyboy007: avec les cercles blancs qui restent
23:05 Realazy: les stacks manuels jsp si c'est une bonne idée parce que tu m'as l'air un peu inconsistent avec
23:05 lazyboy007: mais je fais que ca récemment
23:05 lazyboy007: les stacks manuels j'y touche pas ils ont tous leur flow c.
23:06 lazyboy007: c:*
23:06 Realazy: enfin je vois pas ce qu'ils représentent
23:06 Realazy: a
23:06 lazyboy007: c'est ce que j'aime
23:06 Realazy: okthen
23:06 lazyboy007: ^^
23:06 lazyboy007: aussi la raison du stack c'est que la 2eme note est une basse sans mélodie de la guitare
23:06 lazyboy007: donc je stack
23:06 Realazy: ah c'est pas le fait d'être stacké qui me dérange
23:06 Realazy: c'est le stack manuel
23:06 lazyboy007: pour saccader le mouvement sur la note sans melodie
23:06 Realazy: au lieu de stack auto
23:06 lazyboy007: ouais
23:07 lazyboy007: le manuel c'est pour avoir un peu de flow
23:07 lazyboy007: visuel
23:07 lazyboy007: je déteste les autostacks c:
23:07 Realazy: sinon j'ai pas l'impression de voir une grosse structure dans les angles vers tes quintuplets
23:07 Realazy: enfin jveux dire
23:07 Realazy: les angles changent bcp
23:08 lazyboy007: quintuplets?
23:08 Realazy: ya
23:08 Realazy: 00:51:374 (4,5) - vs 00:53:022 (4,5) -
23:08 Realazy: vs 00:54:011 (4,5) -
23:08 Realazy: enfin j'imagine que c'est pour de la variété mais
23:08 Realazy: ça a plus l'air random qu'autre chose :/
23:08 lazyboy007: bah en fait
23:09 lazyboy007: c'est probablement parce que c'est random plus qu'autre chose
23:09 lazyboy007: :thonk:
23:09 Realazy: a
23:09 lazyboy007: c'est plus consistent après
23:09 lazyboy007: xD
23:09 Realazy: 00:58:297 (1,2,3,4,5) - jvois ce que tu veux faire là
23:09 Realazy: mais ça fait une courbe vraiment chelou avec le slider
23:09 Realazy: donc ça serait bien de faire une courbe un peu plus lisse imo
23:10 Realazy: genre https://real.s-ul.eu/52QhqaIy.png
23:10 Realazy: brb
23:11 lazyboy007: ouais mais ca lead mal vers le suivant
23:12 Realazy: mm sinon tu peux changer la courbe du stream
23:12 Realazy: enfin
23:12 Realazy: je vois ce que tu veux dire jdis juste que c'est un peu maladroit
23:12 lazyboy007: ouais
23:13 lazyboy007: pas tout a fait la meme courbe je sais
23:13 Realazy: parce que si on prend ton raisonnement
23:13 Realazy: 00:59:451 (5,1) - ça lead pas super bien visuellement
23:13 lazyboy007: le 5 est pointé vers le haut mais
23:13 lazyboy007: y'a une raison pour laquelle je break le flow la
23:14 lazyboy007: le dernier stream a des différences sonores
23:15 Realazy: ouais mais
23:15 Realazy: pas sur 00:59:616 (1,2,3) - si?
23:15 lazyboy007: hm j'ai plus considéré le stream en entier qui est plus remplie de snares et de crash
23:16 lazyboy007: mais ouais 1,2 non
23:16 lazyboy007: 3 si
23:16 Realazy: oui j'ai sélectionné le 3 par reflèxe
23:16 Realazy: à ce moment là ça pourrait être sympa de NC 3 pour montrer la différence?
23:16 lazyboy007: bah je peux lower ca coute rien
23:16 lazyboy007: je ne NC rien ca va ruiner tous mes combos rouges xD
23:16 lazyboy007: aled
23:16 Realazy: a
23:16 Realazy: aled
23:17 lazyboy007: après je pense pas trop que ce soit nécessaire de le NC
23:17 Realazy: pas faux
23:17 Realazy: je suis pas top player mais 01:00:275 (9,1,2) -
23:17 Realazy: c'est pas un peu chaud à snap?
23:17 lazyboy007: je fix ca tout juste c:
23:18 Realazy: 01:02:088 (5,6,7,8,1) - jsais que tu veux blanket mais ça ruine pas un peu la consistance avec les quintuplets qui sont toujours en ligne?
23:18 lazyboy007: ils ne le sont pas toujours mais c'est le premier en effet
23:19 lazyboy007: il y avait une raison je sais plus laquelle
23:19 lazyboy007: bon je rends linéaire
23:19 Realazy: xD
23:19 lazyboy007: aucune raison de pas le faire
23:19 Realazy: 01:05:055 (1,2,3) - pas de combo rouge?
23:20 Realazy: quoique
23:20 Realazy: mmmm
23:20 Realazy: sliders 1/6 mais rythme 1/4
23:20 Realazy: d
23:20 lazyboy007: nah les sliders non
23:20 lazyboy007: comme tu dois pas snap du 1/6 manuellement
23:20 Realazy: ouais je viens de remarquer
23:20 Realazy: 01:06:209 (4,5) - le spacing est assez bas non?
23:21 lazyboy007: fix
23:21 Realazy: 01:07:198 (4,5,6,7,8) - courbe + flow visuel plutôt meh
23:21 Realazy: même si ça se joue normalement le visuel indique pas ça
23:21 lazyboy007: fix
23:22 Realazy: 01:08:846 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - j'aime bcp
23:22 lazyboy007: merci :3
23:23 Realazy: 01:12:967 (4,5,6) - t'aurais pu faire un triangle parfait xD
23:23 Realazy: 01:13:297 (6) - déplace le à 238 232 si tu veux un triangle parfait
23:24 lazyboy007: screw triangle
23:24 lazyboy007: sache juste
23:24 lazyboy007: je fais exprès de pas faire de géometrie en metal
23:24 Realazy: a
23:24 lazyboy007: je veux un peux de sauvagerie
23:24 lazyboy007: :3
23:24 Realazy: mm c'est un choix
23:24 lazyboy007: dans mon edm je fais bcp de 60° et de polygones
23:24 lazyboy007: c'est voulu
23:24 lazyboy007: ^^
23:25 lazyboy007: de meme que les quasi étoiles
23:27 Realazy: 01:39:340 (1,2,3) - j'ai mal à mon flow
23:27 Realazy: :^)
23:27 lazyboy007: j'ai mal au mien
23:27 lazyboy007: pq lazy
23:27 Realazy: :^)
23:28 lazyboy007: en vrai
23:28 lazyboy007: avec les 2 crash
23:28 lazyboy007: ca peux passer
23:28 lazyboy007: lul
23:28 lazyboy007: fix
23:29 Realazy: 01:44:781 (5,7) - vs 01:44:616 (4,6) -
23:29 Realazy: j'ai mal à mon visual spacing
23:29 lazyboy007: vas voir le médecin
23:29 lazyboy007: jsp te guérir
23:30 Realazy: :^)
23:30 Realazy: alors on sait pas faire un visual spacing égal? ? ? ?
23:30 lazyboy007: cette map a plus d'un an
23:30 lazyboy007: xD
23:30 Realazy: :^)
23:30 lazyboy007: surtout la first part
23:30 lazyboy007: lol
23:31 Realazy: 01:53:434 (2,3,4) - c'est,,,,,,,,,, très linéaire ça
23:31 lazyboy007: ui
23:31 lazyboy007: les parts avec angles aigus utilisent du counter flow
23:31 lazyboy007: sur les sliders
23:31 lazyboy007: parce que intensity
23:32 Realazy: oui mais
23:32 Realazy: 02:00:028 (2,3,4) - c'est pas un angle aigu ça
23:33 Realazy: 02:03:627 (1) - et là je me pose la question
23:33 Realazy: pourquoi ce NC quand c'est du 1/3 et ça pourrait fit avec l'autre combo?
23:34 lazyboy007: je ne red combo que le 1/6
23:34 lazyboy007: le 1/3 est lisible par spacing et parce qu'il est précéde de repeats/kicksliders
23:34 Realazy: bah imo ça change pas grand chose de 01:41:319 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
23:34 lazyboy007: et dans ce cas aussi pour le début de stream
23:34 lazyboy007: simplement
23:34 Realazy: qui est en un seul combo
23:34 Realazy: enfin
23:35 Realazy: au moins 02:03:407 (4) - aurait pu être dans le même combo imo
23:35 Realazy: je trouve ça un peu bizarre de mettre un NC à cet endroit en particulier
23:35 lazyboy007: ue y'a quand meme une différence niveau son
23:35 lazyboy007: comme le 01:41:319 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - est le meme son qui change de notes
23:35 Realazy: 02:05:385 (9,3,4,5,6,7,8) - :japanese_goblin:
23:36 lazyboy007: 02:03:627 (1) - ici le son de guitarre allongé s'arrête
23:36 lazyboy007: meme pas visible en meme temps wesh
23:36 Realazy: en fait ça se tient pas qu'à ce combo mais
23:36 lazyboy007: abaissé de 5px
23:36 Realazy: plutôt cette part en entier
23:37 Realazy: a l'air plutôt trop resserrée sur le centre de l'écran
23:37 lazyboy007: ouais bah
23:37 Realazy: si tu vois ce que je veux dire
23:37 lazyboy007: tant pis
23:37 lazyboy007: :c
23:37 lazyboy007: oui
23:37 Realazy: 02:09:175 (7,11) - pas de kicksliders pour l'emphase?
23:37 lazyboy007: c'est une gimmick kappa
23:37 lazyboy007: et puis quand on change de section hep 02:14:945 (1) -
23:37 lazyboy007: bord de l'écran
23:37 lazyboy007: nao m'a dit la meme mais
23:37 Realazy: :thonk:
23:38 lazyboy007: enlève le hs et dis moi quels son sont a hl
23:38 lazyboy007: :p
23:38 lazyboy007: imo la guitare est plus imposante
23:38 Realazy: bah au moins 02:09:176 (7) - peut être un kickslider non?
23:38 Realazy: jveux dire
23:39 Realazy: enfin perso j'entends la lead guitar qu'à partir de 02:09:340 (9) -
23:39 Realazy: donc ça peut être un moyen d'emphase aussi
23:39 lazyboy007: si je mets un kickslider la je dois sur le 11
23:39 lazyboy007: c'est la le soucis
23:39 lazyboy007: :/
23:39 lazyboy007: et ca je veux pas
23:39 Realazy: bah pas forcément
23:39 Realazy: tu peux justifier ça en voulant mettre de l'emphase sur la lead guitar
23:40 lazyboy007: eeeh j'aime pas du tout
23:40 lazyboy007: tbh
23:40 Realazy: okay
23:40 Realazy: 02:14:533 (4,1) - ça me titille vraiment ce genre de presque overlap :^)
23:40 lazyboy007: ui bah
23:40 lazyboy007: il reste
23:40 lazyboy007: spacing progressif
23:41 Realazy: ui ou alors
23:41 Realazy: tu les overlap pas
23:41 Realazy:
23:41 lazyboy007: si
23:41 lazyboy007: :v
23:41 lazyboy007: dans le stream ca me dérange pas
23:41 lazyboy007: lul
23:41 lazyboy007: en dehors d'un jumpstream comme ca ca m'embêterait aussi
23:41 lazyboy007: ici j'aime bien je trouve ca fit
23:41 Realazy: j'aurais tenté D:
23:42 Realazy: 02:14:862 (4,1) - et ça aussi?
23:42 Realazy: ça tu pourrais plus le space pour l'emphase
23:42 Realazy: !
23:42 Realazy: !!!
23:42 lazyboy007: ye
23:42 lazyboy007: nan
23:42 lazyboy007: ye
23:43 lazyboy007: bon ok
23:43 Realazy:
23:44 Realazy: 02:17:253 (8,9) - le pitch descend oué
23:44 Realazy: mais ça fait pas un peu overkill comme contraste?
23:45 lazyboy007: ou?
23:45 lazyboy007: le stream?
23:45 Realazy: nan
23:45 Realazy: le spacing
23:45 Realazy: de 8/9
23:45 Realazy: comparé à 7/8
23:45 lazyboy007: eh?
23:45 Realazy: [https://real.s-ul.eu/XmLWrUBr.png :japanese_goblin:]
23:46 Realazy: ah et ekoro est d'accord avec moi pour le bg :^)
23:46 lazyboy007: j'ai aucune idée quelle notes tu as sélectionnées
23:46 lazyboy007: ._.
23:46 Realazy: 02:17:253 (8,9) -
23:46 Realazy: mon msg s'est pas envoyé?
23:46 lazyboy007: oh
23:47 lazyboy007: apparemment non
23:47 lazyboy007: irre m'a dit de move ca la lul
23:47 lazyboy007: ou nao
23:47 lazyboy007: jsplus
23:47 Realazy: a
23:47 Realazy: soit
23:47 lazyboy007: et puis la diminution de spacing se vaut
23:47 lazyboy007: mais un peu extrême ouais
23:47 Realazy: 02:29:286 (7,1,2) - linear spacing! !!! !
23:48 Realazy: euh flow*
23:48 lazyboy007: fix
23:48 lazyboy007: ouais j'ai pigé
23:49 Realazy: 02:28:791 (5,6) - que nous vaut ce spacing aussi bas?
23:49 lazyboy007: un joli stack
23:49 lazyboy007: lul
23:49 Realazy: a
23:49 lazyboy007: et la diminution de pitch
23:50 Realazy: 02:35:385 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
23:50 Realazy: le spacing tellement bas!!!!!
23:50 lazyboy007: genre le 6 a le pitch quasi le plus bas de la musique
23:50 lazyboy007: ui
23:50 Realazy: tu mets plein d'emphasis sur les snares
23:50 Realazy: et quand c'est un roll 1/4 dessus
23:50 Realazy: YAPLUSPERSONNE
23:51 lazyboy007: écoute les notes de guitare wesh
23:51 lazyboy007: c'est ca qui détermine le spacing dans toute la map
23:51 Realazy: oui bah
23:51 lazyboy007:
23:51 Realazy: la guitare reste intense là
23:51 Realazy: quand même
23:52 Realazy: genre je vois pas pourquoi le spacing est aussi bas
23:52 Realazy: t'as la crash
23:52 Realazy: le son de guitare
23:52 Realazy: les snares
23:52 lazyboy007: la guitare?
23:52 lazyboy007: elle meurt quasi
23:52 lazyboy007: :p
23:52 Realazy: :thonk:
23:52 lazyboy007: c'est d'ailleurs pq 05:18:901 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - a un plus gros spacing
23:53 Realazy: 02:59:011 (6,7) - omoide kakera?
23:54 lazyboy007: plus de place
23:54 lazyboy007: xD
23:54 lazyboy007: et le jump est justifiable
23:54 Realazy: c'est pas le jump le problème
23:54 Realazy: c'est le changement de direction sur un tick violet
23:54 Realazy: - _ -
23:54 lazyboy007: pour jump sur un bland ouais
23:54 lazyboy007: ca passe
23:54 lazyboy007: :p
23:54 lazyboy007: a la streamjump
23:55 Realazy: :japanese_goblin:
23:55 lazyboy007: :japanese_TARACE:
23:55 lazyboy007: :^)
23:56 Realazy: 03:24:505 (5,6,7,8,1) -
23:56 Realazy: quelle est ton excuse now???????????????
23:56 lazyboy007: avec?
23:56 lazyboy007: l'angle?
23:56 Realazy: le changement de direction wé
23:56 lazyboy007: le spacing?
23:57 lazyboy007: l'angle est la a cause du dip de pitch
23:57 Realazy: btw 03:29:945 (9) - y u no kickslider
23:57 lazyboy007: 03:24:505 (5,5) - ont un pitch bien plus bas
23:57 lazyboy007: pq 9 aurait un kickslider?
23:57 lazyboy007: y'a pas de 1/4
23:58 Realazy: y'a du 1/4 sur 03:30:027 -
23:58 Realazy: et même
23:58 Realazy: c'est pour emphasize la note de guitare qui est tenue
23:58 Realazy: comme sur 03:29:615 (7,8) -
23:58 Realazy: + emphasis sur 03:30:110 (1) -
23:59 lazyboy007: je n'ai pas mis les kicks sur 7 et 8 pour emphasise
23:59 lazyboy007: mais parce que il y'a des drums en 1/4
23:59 Realazy: c'est pas ça que je veux dire
23:59 lazyboy007: mais la drum fait une pause
23:59 lazyboy007: le 9 n'est pas suivi de kick/snare ^^
00:00 Realazy: le problème c'est que
00:00 Realazy: tes kicksliders là
00:00 Realazy: donnent plus l'impression qu'ils sont là pour emphasize la guitare
00:00 lazyboy007: bah ma seule autre option c'est un 2+2 streamjumo
00:00 lazyboy007: ou un stream de 5
00:01 lazyboy007: les sont nope
00:01 lazyboy007: et je ne veux pas de kickslider sur un son inxistant
00:01 lazyboy007: dans ce cas
00:02 lazyboy007: Surtout que je n'ai pas jusqu'ici représenté les sont de guitare par des kicks a muted end
00:02 lazyboy007: sauf les sections a 3/4 mais ca a sa raison la aussi
00:02 Realazy: oui enfin après faut aussi penser à l'impression que la map donne outre ton raisonnement pour le faire
00:02 Realazy: mais bon np
00:03 lazyboy007: ouais mais bon avec les drums hs et tout
00:03 lazyboy007: jsp
00:03 lazyboy007: j'ai pas mute les sliderends précédents etc.
00:03 lazyboy007:
00:04 Realazy: 03:45:604 - je suis le seul à entendre du 1/4 là?
00:04 Realazy: surtout à partir des red ticks
00:05 lazyboy007: euh
00:05 lazyboy007: personne d'autre ne me l'a déjà point out
00:05 lazyboy007: meme pas géwé
00:05 Realazy: j'ai peut-être pas un bon mp3?
00:05 lazyboy007: tu devrais
00:05 lazyboy007: j'ai jamais changé
00:06 Realazy: a
00:06 lazyboy007: depuis que j'ai submit
00:06 Realazy: enfin
00:06 Realazy: je parle de la lead guitar hein
00:06 lazyboy007: ouai
00:06 Realazy: parce que j'ai pas l'impression qu'elles font le même rythme
00:06 lazyboy007: je sais
00:06 Realazy: les 2 guitares
00:07 lazyboy007: selon moi si
00:07 lazyboy007:
00:07 Realazy: wtf
00:07 Realazy: mais je suis pas fou pourtant j'entends bien 3 notes à partir du blue tick
00:07 lazyboy007: toi?
00:08 lazyboy007: pas fou?
00:08 lazyboy007: hahaha
00:08 Realazy: alo
00:08 lazyboy007: xD
00:08 lazyboy007: non meme en 25%
00:08 Realazy: jklhnqslk!hnfql!ksh
00:08 lazyboy007: je compte pas
00:08 lazyboy007: xD
00:08 Realazy: ça me tilt beaucoup trop
00:08 Realazy: je redl
00:08 Realazy: :rage:
00:08 lazyboy007: lul
00:08 lazyboy007: noraj
00:09 Realazy: enfin
00:09 Realazy: le pire c'est que
00:09 Realazy: osef parce que
00:09 Realazy: l'autre guitare fait du 1/3
00:09 lazyboy007: et les drums aussi
00:09 Realazy: oui
00:09 lazyboy007: ^^
00:11 Realazy: 04:01:428 (5,6,7,8) - pas de changement de spacing?
00:11 Realazy: vu que
00:11 Realazy: tu fais ça selon le pitch
00:11 lazyboy007: je pourrais a cause de la guitarre
00:11 lazyboy007: oui
00:11 lazyboy007: ale pq pas
00:11 Realazy: 04:03:077 (1) - la courbe au début me
00:11 Realazy: jnxklsjqf!
00:12 Realazy: tu pourrais au mois essayer de blanket le début du slider :^)
00:12 Realazy: au moins faire un truc plus arrondi
00:13 lazyboy007: J'ARRIVE PAS A FAIRE CE SLIDER
00:13 lazyboy007: OK
00:13 lazyboy007: xD
00:13 lazyboy007: IL ME TILT
00:13 lazyboy007: DEPUIS QUE J'AI SUBMIT LA MAP
00:13 lazyboy007: 1 AN DE TILT
00:13 lazyboy007: jk
00:13 lazyboy007: mais oui
00:13 lazyboy007: j'arrive pas
00:13 lazyboy007: xD
00:14 Realazy: baisse le 3e et le 4e point
00:14 Realazy: un peu
00:14 Realazy: pour faire un truc plus arrondi
00:14 Realazy: https://real.s-ul.eu/G65p4g14.png
00:15 lazyboy007: oki
00:15 Realazy: 04:16:511 (2,3,4) - là ici ça fait out of place
00:15 Realazy: parce que les autres patterns sont pas aigus comme ça
00:15 Realazy: en termes d'angles
00:16 lazyboy007: toi aussi tu es out of place
00:16 Realazy: :^)
00:16 lazyboy007: ca va être du a fix
00:16 lazyboy007: aled
00:17 Realazy: ta faute :^)
00:17 lazyboy007: bon
00:17 lazyboy007: juste en dessous de 90°
00:18 Realazy: 04:40:165 (2,3,4,5) - imo tu peux les space un peu plus
00:18 Realazy: 04:44:120 (2,3,4,5) - same
00:18 Realazy: 04:51:209 (5,7) - FIX BLONKET
00:19 lazyboy007: ouais ale
00:19 lazyboy007: nan
00:19 lazyboy007: same shape > blanket
00:19 Realazy: ou alors
00:19 Realazy: MOAR spacing
00:19 lazyboy007: et je veux pas increase spacing pour un blanket
00:19 lazyboy007:
00:19 lazyboy007: lel
00:19 Realazy: 05:05:714 (1,2,3,4,5) - jsais ce que tu veux faire mais
00:19 Realazy: c'est ignoble à jouer xD
00:19 lazyboy007: moi aussi je sais ce que je veux faire
00:20 Realazy: a
00:20 Realazy: 05:23:516 (1,2) - pourquoi un rythme aussi faible dans le kiai?
00:21 Realazy: 05:23:928 - ça c'est skip
00:21 lazyboy007: uh le bass disparaît
00:21 Realazy: 05:24:011 (2) - ça cercle+slider ça fit tellement mieux
00:21 Realazy: oui mais l'intensité reste la même
00:21 Realazy: jveux dire
00:21 Realazy: les 2 main instruments restent là
00:22 lazyboy007: nan
00:22 lazyboy007: le bass part tout juste complètement
00:22 lazyboy007: sur ces notes
00:22 lazyboy007: donc y'a une sorte de vide
00:22 lazyboy007: je n'ai aucun 1/4 a suivre
00:22 lazyboy007: donc je me suis arrangé pour suivre les drums tout en ayant une held note sur le lead
00:22 lazyboy007: ^^
00:22 Realazy: il en reste que 05:24:011 (2) - y'a 2 notes sur la lead guitar
00:23 lazyboy007: ah?
00:23 lazyboy007: j'entends qu'une seule?
00:23 Realazy: retire ton slider et écoute xD
00:23 lazyboy007: ou tu parles du fait que la meme note repète sur 05:24:176 -
00:23 Realazy: oui
00:23 Realazy: d'où faire un stack
00:23 Realazy: ce qui follow mieux la musique
00:23 Realazy: d'autant plus que y'a une crash sur le tick blanc
00:24 lazyboy007: stack nan mais j'ai préféré l'interpréter comme une note continue avec une petite variation de volume
00:24 Realazy: le manque d'intensité se ressent beaucoup trop ici imo mais bon
00:25 lazyboy007: bah tout juste y'a un vide
00:25 lazyboy007: fin
00:25 lazyboy007: vla l'intensité ca reste un peu subjectif
00:25 lazyboy007: ^^
00:25 Realazy: il se sent pas vu l'intensité de la guitare et des drums
00:25 Realazy: mouais
00:26 Realazy: 05:55:494 (1) - cette wave me trigger
00:26 Realazy: scale la encore
00:26 lazyboy007: vla l'intensité ca reste un peu subjectif
00:26 lazyboy007: ^^
00:26 Realazy: en playfield centre
00:26 Realazy: et ça fera un truc bcp plus symétrique
00:26 lazyboy007: ah att
00:26 lazyboy007: je croyais avoir delete toutes les waves
00:27 lazyboy007: je les aimais pas
00:27 lazyboy007: sur les notes de guitare
00:27 lazyboy007: du coup
00:27 Realazy: et voilà
00:27 Realazy: c'est tout pour moi :^)
00:27 lazyboy007: si le screen veut upload...
00:28 lazyboy007: pas du tout
00:28 lazyboy007: xD
00:28 lazyboy007: bon
00:28 lazyboy007: sliders typique 2 red ticks
00:28 lazyboy007: + white
00:28 Realazy: ça me va
00:29 Realazy: je poste le log donc? :^)
00:29 lazyboy007: ok :3
00:29 lazyboy007: merci bcp

Irreversible wrote:

I'll qualify in 22 hours, seems better now! \:D/

05:29:697 (4) - could you move that one a bit down, so a proper wave is created? Eh it'd ruin spacing and this is straight on purpose ^^

Irreversible wrote:

Qualified!

I actually can't even remember that I posted this 2 days ago, felt like yesterday. . . weird lol

Mirash wrote:

offset+16 tbh

Delis wrote:

tbh I gotta agree with mirash, I had to at least have +20 to get decent acc on this while I usually stick to 0 on every single map