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Kibbleru

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Title:nameless -TV size-
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Artist:Kano
ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
Creator:Underforest
Version:Kib's Expert
Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun Kibbleru Ex
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Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

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Haruto

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Modem wrote:
Haru's Insane

* Oh, hey again Haru~! >w</ (Your GD is everywhere XD) nahh not really xD i only do GDs to people that knows me well or already knows me >v<

* CS 4 please ;w; ~~was made for pp~~ /jk actually this was made to make a big but not very big gap from light insane.

* Using 4 Stack Leniency instead of 5 in this difficult would add more aesthetic touch at every 1/2 stacks :3 i actually prefer SL 7 in this song sorry

* 00:18:827 (1) - Cute >v< thank you! idk which shape should i make xD cuz i dont have any inspiration when starting map this song xD

* 00:52:243 (1) - Lower down the volume at this spinner into 25% please~ Because using 40% ~ 50% volume at this spinner was a bit too noisy, since the music is kinda low here and Kano's voice is more dominant sure, changed the volume

* 01:07:993 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Super nice rounded flow <3 thank you~

* 01:14:827 (1) - I always love the way you were making the slider art (seriously) i dont really like this shape cuz i dont have much creativity nor inspirations to create something nice lul but thank you so much~

* 01:16:827 (3,4,5,6) - Ctrl + G these notes -> 01:16:993 (4) and 01:17:160 (5) , then swap their hitsounds, to make the better zig-zag jumps around this part, and it would the emphasize with 01:17:493 (1) goes well great idea! ctrl+g'ed them <3

* Very nice diff <33333333 Thank you So much!

That's all~~~
Very solid mapset indeed <3 and your mod is nice too!

Good Luck in Rank~! />w</

CaffeAmericano wrote:
Hi there~

Haru’s Insane
00:18:827 (1) - Consider extending this slider to 00:20:077 - . It’s awkward to place a large jump after a slow slider, but the sound at 00:20:160 - is fairly impressive. So maybe 1/4 clicking + sudden SV change can do the emphasis extended and changed the slidershape+lowered the SV

00:20:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Nice star, but the drum at 00:23:827 (5) - is so strong and piano at 00:21:493 (1) - is so beautiful that I think it would be better to break the star and give larger jumps for emphasis. 00:23:493 (3,4,5,6) - is similar, but I like the flow break at 00:24:160 (1) - :3 hmm... did a big jump there instead. tho, the previous star pattern is completely enough but ppl seems dislike it or smth so i changed it instead xd hope the current one will fine enough.

00:22:577 - I think this should be clickable, since you made preceding similar sounds clickable. I think what you’ve done at 00:27:827 (7) - also works. didnt intend to follow any piano here so should be okay

00:24:660 - Also grumpy that this isn’t clickable. Looks like an important sound to me ^

00:25:493 (1) - May I suggest a larger jump or a flow break to emphasize this sound? 00:20:160 (1) - was immediately following a slow slider, so small ds is understandable, but 00:25:160 (6,7) - having nearly same DS as 00:25:327 (7,1) - doesn’t seem right spaced more

00:38:410 (6,1) - Blanket could be improved fixed

00:44:160 (1,4) - ^ seems fine enough to me ;o

01:01:993 (4,5) - This seem to be one of the largest jumps so far, but I think it has pretty weak sound. Sudden DS decrease at 01:02:160 (5,6) - doesn’t play very well either imo. Consider stacking 01:02:160 (5) - with the tail of 01:00:827 (3) - . I think it compliments well with the increase in pitch at 01:02:493 -. ...apparently, someone else already pointed this out, but let me upvote his opinion xD did something xd

00:20:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - 01:16:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Seems inconsistent with the part that starts at 00:20:160 - and at 00:25:493 - fixed smth on modem's mod

Kiai seems to have very few jumps compared to non-kiai. Instrumental part at the beginning and the end, it makes sense. But at least for the calmer parts, I would expect it to be reverse :3 idk, i'll keep these for now cuz i still need others opinion about it too... might need a time if i remapped this cuz im ver busy these days
GL with the set!

pkhg wrote:
[Haru's Insane]

hi monstrata hi pkhentaig - lit120
00:18:827 (1) - http://puu.sh/qeKw7/cf66e3928d.png fixed on previous mods xp
01:01:493 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont know what makes this section different from all the others in the kiai to make those jumps. you have literally no jumps until here and looks more like youre mapping to fit your structures more than the music itself (the entire maps is like this lo) probably the spacing from (5)>(6). fixed smth on previous mod too
01:28:660 (2,1,2,3,4) - and put a jump on a soft part the song is like, "getting intense" on every its seconds so i decided to put the jumps to give a feedback on the synth sound
you have more jumps in the beginning than the kiai like what is emphasis x d d
looks nice but stuff^^^ yea, my bad lo
kano sounds weird on this song not rly lo

Thanks for mods pkhg, caffeamericano and modem for the nice mods!

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Doormat

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Joined September 2013

Doormat 9 years ago

hi hi m4m here sorry i'm late lol kano's vocals do not fit the video all that well tbh
[Easy]

00:09:494 (1,2) - i think the issue is obvious here, but just in case, the (2) is slightly touching the (1) and it looks pretty bad aesthetically since it looks unintentional. rotate the (2) counterclockwise a bit?
00:17:160 - i wouldn't ignore this beat since it sounds like you're following vocals here but then forgot this vocal note. consider adding a circle here
00:39:827 - there's a really audible kick here i don't think you should ignore either; consider adding a circle here
00:46:827 (1) - just my opinion here, but sharp corners on a slider like this look kind of bad on easier difficulties due to how squished it feels. consider spacing it out a bit more? alternatively, you could add another pivot point and make the slider look something like this?
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[Mochi]

00:09:494 (1,2,3,4,5) - umm i think you should follow the vocals more with this pattern since all the other patterns before the spinner follow the vocals and then this one is like not following vocals all that great
00:38:827 (1) - hmm consider dividing this up into 1/1 slider at 00:38:827 - and circle at 00:39:327 - ? 3/2 slider here feels strange here because it's the longest slider here

[Hard]

just an idea here, but why not consider reversing the order of 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - ? the piano does this interesting thing here where it places emphasis on 00:24:660 - so i think it'd be cool to map to that emphasis
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00:43:327 (2,3) - consider stacking these like you stacked 00:41:993 (2,3) - ? i think stacking would be neat since the vocal composition and rhythms are near identical for these parts so it'd be cool to capture that repetition by making the patterns similar
00:44:660 (2,3) - ^yeah that could apply here too
01:01:493 (1,2) - nothing wrong with this in particular, but i do have to wonder why the pattern here is much simpler than everything else in the chorus? it just feels out of place to me :v
01:14:827 - consider placing a circle here and starting the spinner on the blue or red tick after it? downbeat here is pretty emphasized so i think it'd be a wasted opportunity for it to not be clickable
01:20:493 (2,3,4) - same suggestion that i suggested at 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - but it's not really necessary; just something i thought would be neat

[Waji]

01:11:160 (1,2,3) - pattern here just seems really simple in comparison to the rest of the difficulty.. doesn't really fit imo since this is one of the most intense parts of the song, and then it feels like something that would be in an Easy or Normal. i'd consider buffing up the patterning here

[Haru]

00:16:493 (1,2,3) - should probably be a triangle and you should probably start a new combo on 00:17:493 (4) - . reasoning is because of the pitch in vocals; 00:16:493 (1) - matches the increase in pitch well, but then 00:17:493 (4) - doesn't
00:21:743 - forgot a note here? you mapped one at 00:27:077 (3) - which is basically the same piano pattern
00:38:410 (6) - using a 3/4 slider you skipped a pretty emphasized beat on 00:38:493 - . why not try a circle at 00:38:410 - and a 1/2 slider on 00:38:493 - ?
00:42:327 (6,7) - i think the clap on the slider end should be clickable. why not try reversing the order of notes here? you could stack the circle over the slider head if you do-
SPOILER
00:46:327 (5,6) - ^similar thing about how i think reversing the order of notes here would be better because of emphasis on clap should be clickable
01:22:827 (1) - not gonna map to the blue tick at 01:23:077 - ?

[krt]

00:32:827 (3,4,5) - so the thing is, you ended up skipping the kick that's on the white tick at 00:33:160 - by going with this pattern that doesn't really fit with the drums all that well. why not consider using a pattern like in Kib's Extra? this applies to the patterns at 00:35:494 (5,6,7) - and 00:38:160 (5,6,7) -
00:41:827 (1) - uhhhh why does this clap sound different from the rest of the claps 00:42:494 (2) - 00:43:160 (1) - 00:43:827 (2) - etc.
00:45:160 (2) - why is the slider end quiet here? none of the other slider ends in this section are quiet like this..
00:52:160 (1,1,1) - what are these mapped to? the music here isn't strong enough to support beats like these.. i think using a spinner or one long slider like in Karia's diff would be better than using three 3/2 sliders that aren't really mapped to anything
01:06:493 (5,1) - don't you love blanket mods?

[Kib]

00:12:660 (3) - okay so the opening part before the drums start coming in sounds like you're mapping to the vocals more closely than to the piano, but then you have this long slider that goes over the vocal note at 00:12:827 - so yeah i'd consider splitting up this slider and making that white tick at 00:12:827 - be clickable as well

[Karia]

00:13:493 (3,4) - minor thing that people will end up pointing out so i'll point it out first; stack here is a little screwed up
00:32:827 (5) - consider extending this to the blue tick and making it a 3/4 slider? kind of doesn't fit the rest of the next few patterns since 00:35:493 (5) - 00:38:160 (7) - and 00:39:493 (5) - are all 3/4 sliders

[]
hope this helps!

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

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Xayler

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Xayler 9 years ago

Still wondering why starting at 10 sec and not mapping the piano, just my opinion.

Underforest

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Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

When I set second 4 as offset, my editor gots bugged and everything unsnaps 1ms, also I want a break before starting. I won't change, thanks.

Xayler

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Xayler 9 years ago

Underforest wrote:
When I set second 4 as offset, my editor gots bugged and everything unsnaps 1ms, also I want a break before starting. I won't change, thanks.

I had smth like 170 as offset and works fine, idk. And by the piano I meant the piano which is 1/6 maybe? inside the song.
Maybe move all notes by 1ms after the changes?
Nevertheless, it's playable anyways so just threw some ideas what I had.
And no I didn't mean anything to change, that's your map not mine

SPOILER

I see a kinda huge gap between Normal and Hard, so would you accept an Advanced diff?

Probably not, right...

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

No advanced diff, thanks xD

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Doormat wrote:
hi hi m4m here sorry i'm late lol kano's vocals do not fit the video all that well tbh
[krt]
00:32:827 (3,4,5) - so the thing is, you ended up skipping the kick that's on the white tick at 00:33:160 - by going with this pattern that doesn't really fit with the drums all that well. why not consider using a pattern like in Kib's Extra? this applies to the patterns at 00:35:494 (5,6,7) - and 00:38:160 (5,6,7) - It's impossible to follow all the instrumental in this song, since the song itself is kinda weird, so i desired to follow the guitar, and ignore some drum, since guitar is stronger here, Kibb uses vocal mapping, which is different from me since i wanted to do instrumental mapping for this diff
00:41:827 (1) - uhhhh why does this clap sound different from the rest of the claps 00:42:494 (2) - 00:43:160 (1) - 00:43:827 (2) - etc. Uhhhh.... I think it's your auditory problem, it's fine from my side
00:45:160 (2) - why is the slider end quiet here? none of the other slider ends in this section are quiet like this.. ok
00:52:160 (1,1,1) - what are these mapped to? the music here isn't strong enough to support beats like these.. i think using a spinner or one long slider like in Karia's diff would be better than using three 3/2 sliders that aren't really mapped to anything Even i got a mod complaining the same thing, I still disagree that you think those sliders mapped to nothing, even a single slider or a spinner works here, i prefer to use a complexed rhythm
00:52:160 (1) - The wind up sound starts here
00:52:827 (1) - Wind up sound goes down a pitch
00:53:494 (1) - Wind up sound goes up a pitch
00:54:160 (1) - Wind up sound repeats 00:53:494 (1) -
Not just i could map this wind sound more precisely, I think it gives better and smoother build up on this part
01:06:493 (5,1) - don't you love blanket mods? meh
hope this helps!

Sorry for late, ty for mod~

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lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 9 years ago

Doormat wrote:
[Karia]
00:13:493 (3,4) - minor thing that people will end up pointing out so i'll point it out first; stack here is a little screwed up Here's no problem in-playing
00:32:827 (5) - consider extending this to the blue tick and making it a 3/4 slider? kind of doesn't fit the rest of the next few patterns since 00:35:493 (5) - 00:38:160 (7) - and 00:39:493 (5) - are all 3/4 sliders The 3/4 beat is not strong at the first. Additionally, I don't want 3/4 slider at the fist.

Thanks for modding!

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,061 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 9 years ago

This is a friendly remiinder to stay on topic. Cleaned the topic up a little.

Also did a quick IRC mod with wajinshu concerning their difficulty. Fixed up a couple of blankets, slightly improved things here and there. Moved the spinner 1 grid up.

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

@ Doormat Was changed to another rhytm
Thanks!

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Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

Updating uwu
@Doormat I'll get to the mod soon I'm very busy and also internet :c

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 9 years ago

can you add the real title of this anime in the tags?

all the ramen on the sky

Kalibe

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Joined October 2013

Kalibe 9 years ago

Kibbleru wrote:
all the ramen on the sky

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Kalibe wrote:
Kibbleru wrote:
all the ramen on the sky

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

damn I didn't notice it
ty kibb, added

Hazu-

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Hazu- 9 years ago

Holo~
No kds, solo hay algunas cosas que me preocupan.

General

Waji's Light Insane no tiene video.
El tag "Ex" está de mas en Kib's Expert.
Una cosa que siempre se quejan en varios mapas, ese color azul es bastante difícil de ver (tanto para los que juegan con la pantalla oscurecida como no), sugiero hacerlo un poco mas claro.

Easy

00:10:827 (2) - Debido al bajo DS se ve muy "pegado" el centro del slider al slider anterior, movería el sliderpoint ligeramente hacia abajo para que no quede tan mal.
00:37:493 (3) - nazi blanket :v :v

Mochi's Normal

01:04:160 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This combo is too difficult for Normal with 180 bpm (So I think when I played), I think delete 01:04:993 (5) - It will be easier and will not affect the rhythm.

Hard

00:24:493 (2,3) - y 01:20:493 (2,3) - Se que quieres hacer, pero creo que no sigue efectivamente el ritmo, creo que esto (o algo parecido) estaría mejor, pero es una sugerencia bastante personal, fue lo único que me incomodó de la diff.

this. GL~

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

Doormat wrote:
hi hi m4m here sorry i'm late lol kano's vocals do not fit the video all that well tbh
[Easy]
00:09:494 (1,2) - i think the issue is obvious here, but just in case, the (2) is slightly touching the (1) and it looks pretty bad aesthetically since it looks unintentional. rotate the (2) counterclockwise a bit? I tried to fix this blanket instead
00:17:160 - i wouldn't ignore this beat since it sounds like you're following vocals here but then forgot this vocal note. consider adding a circle here done
00:39:827 - there's a really audible kick here i don't think you should ignore either; consider adding a circle here ok
00:46:827 (1) - just my opinion here, but sharp corners on a slider like this look kind of bad on easier difficulties due to how squished it feels. consider spacing it out a bit more? alternatively, you could add another pivot point and make the slider look something like this?
SPOILER
[Hard]
just an idea here, but why not consider reversing the order of 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - ? the piano does this interesting thing here where it places emphasis on 00:24:660 - so i think it'd be cool to map to that emphasis ok
SPOILER
00:43:327 (2,3) - consider stacking these like you stacked 00:41:993 (2,3) - ? i think stacking would be neat since the vocal composition and rhythms are near identical for these parts so it'd be cool to capture that repetition by making the patterns similar done
00:44:660 (2,3) - ^yeah that could apply here too ok
01:01:493 (1,2) - nothing wrong with this in particular, but i do have to wonder why the pattern here is much simpler than everything else in the chorus? it just feels out of place to me :v done :v
01:14:827 - consider placing a circle here and starting the spinner on the blue or red tick after it? downbeat here is pretty emphasized so i think it'd be a wasted opportunity for it to not be clickable ok
01:20:493 (2,3,4) - same suggestion that i suggested at 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - but it's not really necessary; just something i thought would be neat I decided to apply it anyways
hope this helps!

Hazu- wrote:
Holo~
No kds, solo hay algunas cosas que me preocupan. whoops
General
Waji's Light Insane no tiene video. Añadido
El tag "Ex" está de mas en Kib's Expert. Arreglado
Una cosa que siempre se quejan en varios mapas, ese color azul es bastante difícil de ver (tanto para los que juegan con la pantalla oscurecida como no), sugiero hacerlo un poco mas claro. En este caso es diferente, porque no hace mala combinación con el fondo y encaja perfectamente
Easy
00:10:827 (2) - Debido al bajo DS se ve muy "pegado" el centro del slider al slider anterior, movería el sliderpoint ligeramente hacia abajo para que no quede tan mal. Esto ya fue arreglado con el mod que me brindó Doormat
00:37:493 (3) - nazi blanket :v :v No está mal de todas formas
Mochi's Normal
01:04:160 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This combo is too difficult for Normal with 180 bpm (So I think when I played), I think delete 01:04:993 (5) - It will be easier and will not affect the rhythm.
Hard
00:24:493 (2,3) - y 01:20:493 (2,3) - Se que quieres hacer, pero creo que no sigue efectivamente el ritmo, creo que esto (o algo parecido) estaría mejor, pero es una sugerencia bastante personal, fue lo único que me incomodó de la diff. Este ritmo también fue cambiado con el mod de Doormat
this. GL~

thanks
waiting for your reply, mochi

Underforest

5,895 posts

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Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

got some testplays from nowhere on extra diff thanks everyone

lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 9 years ago

sorry for almost a month late

[karia]

01:26:660 (5,6) - an optional, so yaaa. just use 1/4 slider on (5) to make it easier for 5 stream notes rather than having a smaller chance for combo break by 6 stream notes

[kibboo]

00:13:993 (2) - i guess someone needs to do a manual stack here

[lemme guess... kurante]

fishy blanket a lot
00:10:160 (2,3) - mind about blanketing this?
00:12:160 (1,2,3) - this one too
00:14:160 (4) - stack at (1) pls
00:43:827 (2,1) - wot's this?
00:59:160 (2,4) - fishy blanket
01:07:160 (2,4) - ^
01:10:827 (1,2) - ^

GL!

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

lit120 wrote:
sorry for almost a month late

[lemme guess... kurante]

FOREST SHOW YOU WHO MADE THOSE GDS IN THE DESCRIPTION AOIFAESHGTOIEWRGJWAEH
fishy blanket a lot
00:10:160 (2,3) - mind about blanketing this?
00:12:160 (1,2,3) - this one too
00:14:160 (4) - stack at (1) pls
00:43:827 (2,1) - wot's this?
00:59:160 (2,4) - fishy blanket
01:07:160 (2,4) - ^
01:10:827 (1,2) - ^
GL!

All fixed~ And thanks for making my eyes hurt by making me eyeballing those blankets lol

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lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 9 years ago

@lit120 : It's fine cuz the combo starts from streams for reading.

Thanks for modding!

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

updated

jeanbernard8865

600 posts

Joined December 2014

jeanbernard8865 9 years ago

M4M part 2

krt’s Expert

00:30:993 (2,3) - maybe ctrl+h this to reset flow ?

00:32:160 (1,2) - I don’t understand why you put sliders here while everywhere after it you did 4 circles

00:43:827 (2) - flows awkwardly, move it slightly to the right

Can’t find anything else after 4 checks, guess it’s all

Rank when I need pp

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

AyanokoRin wrote:
M4M part 2

krt’s Expert
00:30:993 (2,3) - maybe ctrl+h this to reset flow ? Resetting the flow here might plays weird

00:32:160 (1,2) - I don’t understand why you put sliders here while everywhere after it you did 4 circles K

00:43:827 (2) - flows awkwardly, move it slightly to the right Ctrl+ G instead

Can’t find anything else after 4 checks, guess it’s all

Rank when I need pp

And yeah, it's from my queue

I am not sure does you updated my diff before this mod

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

this map is not dead yet
i'll try to find a bn once I rank my yukitoki thing

posting this to reset grave counter

Deppyforce

1,987 posts

Joined November 2014

Deppyforce 9 years ago

cool song

[General]
00:04:160 - offset should be here

[Mochi's Normal]
00:16:827 (5) - curve a bit like http://puu.sh/qZnJv/b578fbabdd.jpg flows a bit better with next note imo
00:51:493 (1) - try start spinner here instead

[Hard]
00:54:160 - end spinner at starts of vocals here fits better imo
01:10:493 (4) - could split to 2 circles cuz theres snare on both head and tail

[Waji's Light Insane]
00:10:827 (1,3) - fix blanket?
00:24:660 (3,7,8) - maybe make triangle for better aesthetics
00:38:827 (1,2) - try 1/1 + circle instead on these so u can map a bit more rhythm xd
01:26:327 (6) - use circles for this instead would be harder ( and thats better

[krt's Expert]
01:00:077 - ignored 1/4 here :c
i like this diff

[Kib's Expert]
01:19:160 (2) - lame af try this or smth http://puu.sh/qZpvy/eecbddcfa4.jpg
01:24:493 (2) - lame same

ok thats it lazy k bye gl

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

No fix, the slider end hits the 1/4 drum, i use slider so i can emphasize the finish at 01:00:160 (1) -

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

Fixed all except for 00:38:827 (1,2) -

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Artist:Kano
ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
Creator:Underforest
Version:Waji's Light Insane
Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun Kibbleru
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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

I almost forget this map uwu
i'll reply and update soon

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

explained offset thing before
no fix on my diff

thanks for mod

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Updated the last slider art

 osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
Creator:Underforest
Version:krt's Expert
Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun Kibbleru
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Electoz

Beatmap Nominator

1,899 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 9 years ago

Posting here to inform that I gave kudosu to Deppyforce since wajinshu fixed almost everything from his mod.

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

Electoz wrote:
Posting here to inform that I gave kudosu to Deppyforce since wajinshu fixed almost everything from his mod.

oh i forgot it, thanks

[Moe_yuexia]

10 posts

Joined December 2013

[Moe_yuexia] 9 years ago

kano fans +1
add as fav

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,846 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 9 years ago

uhm, fixed. why is there barely any suggestion for me :c

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Underforest

5,895 posts

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Underforest 9 years ago

updating soon

Hokichi

831 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 9 years ago

Underforest wrote:
---NM---
Title: nameless
Artist: Kano
Link: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/483206
Drain: 1:30
Specified diffs: If you can all the mapset, but Experts are more prefered
Extra:

This is a BN, and I'm noticing you

Jk

[Easy]

00:12:160 (3,4) - Idk, is overlapping allowed in Easy diffs? I don't think it is... I think you should fix them all

Rather than that, this diff is well-made

[Mochi's Normal]

00:09:494 (1,2) - Move 00:09:994 (2) - to 00:10:160 - then add a note at 00:09:994 -

00:09:494 (1,2,3,4,5) - The beat of this part that you mapped is weird. Please change it

00:40:660 (4,5) - Consider merge these into 1 slider

00:55:993 (4) - Move this to 00:56:160 - then add a note at 00:55:993 -

00:58:660 (4) - ^

01:01:327 (4) - ^. Or you can do something like 01:06:827 (4,5,6) -

[Hard]

00:39:327 - Add a note here please

01:05:160 (4) - Try something like this

Nice diff

Ok, that's all

Good luck with this great set ^^

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

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Underforest 9 years ago

@Hokichi

Easy: Yes, overlaps are allowed for Easy diffs, as long as you don't make it messy
Hard: Fixed first point, Second point: there's no beat on second blue tick

thanks
also 20 favs

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Remapped some parts

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nameless.mp3
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Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun Kibbleru
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Also asked 2 peoples to testplay

1

15:09 KuranteMelodii: Hi kibb
15:09 KuranteMelodii: hentai :3w
15:11 Kibbleru: :3w
15:12 KuranteMelodii: Can i ask for testplay
15:12 Kibbleru: ya
15:12 Kibbleru: as long as not too hard
15:13 KuranteMelodii: 5.09
15:13 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/ruVq5/6bc4fa0f8b.osz
15:13 KuranteMelodii: krt's expert
15:13 KuranteMelodii: lol i know that you made a diff
15:13 Kibbleru: `wait do i update
15:13 KuranteMelodii: Don't update it because i remapped some part from the current pending one
15:14 KuranteMelodii: I am just curious about that 12121212 jump part
15:14 KuranteMelodii: I always choke at there when i was playing my diff
15:14 KuranteMelodii: #blamenotelock
15:17 KuranteMelodii: Soooo.. is that those jump part too hard?
15:18 Kibbleru: i just suck at playing those back and forth
15:19 Kibbleru: even tho i make alot of those
15:19 KuranteMelodii: lol
15:19 KuranteMelodii: I thought that it's my bad on mapping those back and forth
15:20 KuranteMelodii: thanks anyways :d

2

15:24 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/ruVq5/6bc4fa0f8b.osz
15:26 KuranteMelodii: 啊
15:26 KuranteMelodii: 別update
15:26 _Yiiiii: 我更新了一下
15:26 _Yiiiii: orz
15:26 _Yiiiii: 我重新下
15:26 KuranteMelodii: 我從pending的版本remap了一部分
15:28 _Yiiiii: 感觉特别容易断
15:29 KuranteMelodii: 那一部分
15:29 KuranteMelodii: 01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -
15:29 KuranteMelodii: 這裡?
15:29 _Yiiiii: 我都不知道怎么接上的
15:29 _Yiiiii: 哪里都容易路人断
15:30 _Yiiiii: 00:21:994 (4,5,6) -
15:30 _Yiiiii: 像这个就挺容易读错的
15:31 KuranteMelodii: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6227470
15:31 KuranteMelodii: 這樣改如何
15:32 _Yiiiii: 不是形状问题
15:32 _Yiiiii: 是间距问题
15:32 _Yiiiii: 虽然间距统一了
15:32 _Yiiiii: 我再来一pc
15:32 KuranteMelodii: 好
15:34 _Yiiiii: 我大概知道问题了
15:34 KuranteMelodii: 大觸請受我一拜
15:35 _Yiiiii: 01:18:827 (1,2,3) -
15:35 KuranteMelodii: 這個
15:35 _Yiiiii: 就是这么带着间距下条加三连一般都是音为三连在重音上
15:35 KuranteMelodii: 是不是太難讀
15:35 _Yiiiii: 这个谱只要下三连就是这样
15:35 _Yiiiii: 对
15:36 _Yiiiii: 所以有些难读
15:36 _Yiiiii: 如果没有重音的话，用小DS接在滑条尾就可以了
15:36 KuranteMelodii: 不疊後用DS行嗎
15:37 _Yiiiii: 可以
15:37 _Yiiiii: 反正只要第一个圈离滑条尾进一点就好
15:37 KuranteMelodii: 01:17:494 (1,2,3) -
15:37 KuranteMelodii: 那個要嗎
15:38 _Yiiiii: 这个改了
15:38 KuranteMelodii: 好
15:38 _Yiiiii: 01:18:827 (1,2,3) -
15:38 _Yiiiii: 像这个音比较重，保持这样就好了
15:38 KuranteMelodii: 恩
15:40 _Yiiiii: 话说改出现在背景上的字出现的时间和字的颜色是要找QAT是么？
15:41 KuranteMelodii: 你不是说这里太難讀嗎
15:41 KuranteMelodii: 是
15:44 KuranteMelodii: 還有
15:44 _Yiiiii: 。
15:44 KuranteMelodii: 例如01:18:243 (5) - 這裡的滑條要改嗎
15:45 _Yiiiii: 再近一点吧
15:46 KuranteMelodii: 01:18:243 (5) - 疊到 x313 y84行嗎
15:47 _Yiiiii: 挺好

What i changed

00:23:827 (7) - This is unstacked to have more consistency on 01:19:827 (7,1) -
00:21:494 (1,2,3) - 00:22:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - etc... Unstacked to have better readability
00:28:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Remapped rhythm
00:29:160 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Remapped entire pattern to have better consistency and flow
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Remapped for playability (And it makes the sr looks more like an expert, phew!)
01:10:494 (5,6,7) - Unstacked for emphasis

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

updated kurante
will find a bn for check i don't want to see this in loved status ;_;

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

re-dl
changed bg

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Blankets

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Mint

1,611 posts

Joined February 2013

Mint 9 years ago

Hi! From my M4M queue.

[General]

Doesn't seem to problematic, but since most difficulties follow the vocal track in the intro for obvious reasons, you might want to get 00:13:494 (3) - checked out. To me, the timing issue isn't that big of an issue since it keeps playability and the song fixes itself fast - but having some confirmation on this would be the best.
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[Easy]

Might just completely be me, but the 1/1 spacing looks really close. Sometimes it almost looks like things overlap, while they don't. Hard to explain, but a bit of space between objects keeps everything a bit more readable to some extent. In this case for example, changing spacing to 1.1x (or changing CS) would work better for me. Comes down to personal preference though, up to you - rest looks fine.

[Hard]

00:32:160 (1,2,3) - I do think having breaks in a Hard difficulty is good, but actually the non-prominent beats are clickable now. I recommend, that if you consider using breaks every now and then, to start on some loud beat again so it's easy to pick up. Try this instead? http://puu.sh/seXe5/519f549079.jpg
00:51:160 (2) - ~~copy paste slider looks better~~

[waji's]

01:26:493 (8) - rip claps on reverses

[Haru's]

00:16:160 (4,4) - My issue with these is that they are actually emphasizing the less prominent sounds... while the square pattern works and helps with reading, triangular shaps would've benifitted the rhythm so much more.
00:21:493 (1,2,3,4) - I've observed from your previous maps you tend to view "emphasis" in a whole other way, but I really recommend doing it the "mainstream" way here. Not only does the stack and the short distance between (3,4) cause reading problems for (4,5,6) - it could just easily be fixed if you unstacked these and make the jump between (2,3).
00:48:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - Way too big and way too sudden. If you wish to keep this 1/4 stuff, I highly recommend moving these closer. The antiflow combined with drastic spacing changes really create an imbalance here.
01:22:827 (1,2,3,4,5) - Honestly, if you're going to make every other identical part with no-gap 1/4 stuff, not sure why you decided to break it just here.
The arrangement generally seems fine, but I still have trouble understanding your way of emphasizing stuff and offbeat rhythms. Aside from that, it plays fine though - one thing I'd really pay close attention to is consistency, which is usually your strong part, but feels surprisingly feels lacking here. To me, there's no clear distinction between 1/2 and 1/4 distance and the concepts and spacing values just keep changing non-stop (like 01:17:493 (1,2,3,4,5) - ). This should be an easy fix for most patterns though, rest looks OK.

[krt's]

00:32:827 (5,6,7) - Had a bit of a trouble reading this as 1/4 in the beginning. Spacing does make sense, but I think it's mostly because of the intensity of the part. Bringing them closer would help a bit imo.
00:37:160 (4,1) - You might want to space this further, even your 1/4 spacing gets larger than this.
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I always have some second thoughts on jump patterns like these, but they seem to be the thing now everyone likes. Anyways, to me this lacks a bit of variation - especially when you consider you make the same movement on the same side of the screen for quite a while. Perhaps something to consider in future maps too.
01:14:827 (1) - Just for the aesthetics, but I feel that sliders like these don't really fit the overall concept, since you usually use a lot of curves. Having a slider like this one is just a bit of a surprise/inconsistency aesthetically.
I think you've improved a lot since the last time I saw your work. Difficulty could be more polished when it comes to 1/4 switches in spacing & patterning, but these are just minor issues.

[Kib's]

00:13:327 (4,5) - Don't really think 1/4s play/fit well here at all. If you're following the vocal track, keep in mind that the vocal on the white tick is delayed significantly, making this pretty awkward to play. Also, it seems your main focus is on the instruments in the intro as well, making it even more confusing.
00:15:660 (5) - No sound here? Having such long strains of 1/2 in an intro like this feels a tad too overdone. Would either remove this, or change (4) into a slider.
00:27:327 (3,4,5) - Variety is cool, but it seems rather inconsistent to suddenly follow something else with the triplets. The snare on the blue tick is skipped now and I personally feel this does more bad than good here.
00:28:493 (2) - 01:24:493 (2) - Eh... personally not a big fan of these, as you can here the interesting snare rhythm in hitsounding covered by only one reverse - oh well, up to you.
00:29:493 (1,2,1) - Honestly, still after a few tries this is barely readable to me. On a intense part, having breaks like these not only breaks the intensity, but also causes spacing issue between (1,2,1). Combined with the tricky rhythm that's introduced here you might want to consider changing this. 01:25:493 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - worked much better.
00:34:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Feels really overdone for a calm part like this, kinda similar to the stuff in KIAI time in terms of spacing - which doesn't seem optimal for this part of the song. // 00:37:493 (1,2,3,4,5) -
01:10:493 (2,3,4,5) - Personally feel that these could be separated a bit more. After a kickslider with this intensity I feel like a triplet would actually be easier to catch with bigger spacing to really make the kickslider feel like 1/2.

[Karia's]

I think your style and arrangement is really awesome, a style I've grown to love after your few recent maps. It feels a bit overdone though for a rather quiet song like this, but I feel this can still pass.

Mochi's & Karia's look OK to me.
I feel there's still room for improvement, but not far from ranking.

Good luck for now!

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

appleeaterx wrote:
Hi! From my M4M queue.

[krt's]
00:32:827 (5,6,7) - Had a bit of a trouble reading this as 1/4 in the beginning. Spacing does make sense, but I think it's mostly because of the intensity of the part. Bringing them closer would help a bit imo. ok for this but... It does get little weird on aesthetics though
00:37:160 (4,1) - You might want to space this further, even your 1/4 spacing gets larger than this. ok
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I always have some second thoughts on jump patterns like these, but they seem to be the thing now everyone likes. Anyways, to me this lacks a bit of variation - especially when you consider you make the same movement on the same side of the screen for quite a while. Perhaps something to consider in future maps too. I like this though, although it's true that it's kinda only moving in one part on the screen and it have lack of variation, But i wanted to properly split them into 2 parts without making some awkward movement between 01:02:494 (5,1) - , 01:03:993 (2,1) - and 01:04:994 (2,1,2,3,1) -
01:14:827 (1) - Just for the aesthetics, but I feel that sliders like these don't really fit the overall concept, since you usually use a lot of curves. Having a slider like this one is just a bit of a surprise/inconsistency aesthetically. ok
I think you've improved a lot since the last time I saw your work. Difficulty could be more polished when it comes to 1/4 switches in spacing & patterning, but these are just minor issues. I do agree those 1/4 spacing and patterning is kinda weird though, i look though all the 1/4 spacing and fix them with DS

Hope that i don't mess up again

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Thanks for the mod~

P.S. Karia is god

pkhg

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pkhg 9 years ago

ya te modee el map hace tiempo plzz

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

pkhg wrote:
ya te modee el map hace tiempo plzz

ayy xd se me olvido
modea este entonces https://osu.ppy.sh/s/508842

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

fixed apple's mod, waiting for gders

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

My mapping still sucks

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

KuranteMelodii wrote:
My mapping still sucks

xd

lolia

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lolia 8 years ago

appleeaterx wrote:
[Karia's]
I think your style and arrangement is really awesome, a style I've grown to love after your few recent maps. It feels a bit overdone though for a rather quiet song like this, but I feel this can still pass. xD

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Karia is god

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

KuranteMelodii wrote:
Karia is god

yes

lolia

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lolia 8 years ago

nooooo

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

Karia wrote:
nooooo

what? xd

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

~~antigrave~~

edit: removed krt's diff as requested by him

Naxess

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Naxess 8 years ago

Greetings, I was requested.

Saw this set like a month ago and was planning to give a mod, I guess now's the time.

[Waji's Light Insane]

00:11:493 (3) - Considering that there's a sound at 00:11:827 - and 00:10:660 - , making 00:10:160 (3) - a 3/2 and 00:11:493 (3) - a 1/1 would probably be more appropriate. That way there's no need to skip over 00:10:660 - , and 00:11:493 (3) - will end where the piano does.
00:12:827 (3,3) - Similarly these two could be 3/2. The former in order to cover 00:13:327 - , the latter to bridge easier into 00:14:993 - using polarity, instead of resorting to overmapping with 00:14:827 (1) - .
Speaking of 00:14:827 (1) - , there's no audible impact here, so might as well remove it. The previous suggestion will have covered the potential polarity here.
00:17:493 (3) - See no reason to stray from your NC pattern of every downbeat here.
00:34:492 (4) - Could snap this to the timeline.
00:36:160 (1,3) - Hiding notes under other notes, causing potential difficulty in reading, probably wouldn't fit very well in calmer sections. It hasn't been used else where around here either. I'd suggest you try some pattern like this instead, for example.
00:52:243 - If you'd like to fill this space, it's always possible to start a spinner here for the buildup. Would probably reflect it better as well.
00:54:910 - 01:27:493 - 01:29:160 - 01:29:494 - btw these lines are unnecessary, remove them.

[Haru's Insane]
00:21:743 - Not going to have a circle here like you had at 00:27:077 - ? In my opinion it would cover these much better.
00:21:327 (6,1,2) - The fact that the note before and after is basically the same as this, makes it much less emphasized than the song suggests. In order to solve this, you could turn (1) and (2) into a slider. Same goes 00:26:827 (1,2) - .
00:29:493 (1,2) - Would prefer it if the spacing here was at least similar or less than the spacing between 00:29:827 (4,5) - , for the sake of accentuation. Could move 00:29:493 (1) - to (147; 230), for example.
00:32:243 (2) - Not quite sure what you're trying to reflect here. There's plenty of other sounds around here that could be used for triples, for example 00:32:410 - .
00:35:493 (5,6) - Similarly to the second point, emphasizing (5) through a slider would probably work better. Especially since 00:35:660 - is barely audible.
00:36:827 - 00:37:160 - For this part you could turn both into 1/2 sliders. The former to cover the vocal, the latter to cover the instrument.
00:38:160 (5,6) - Not quite sure the emphasis is going in this order, seems more correct swapping them rhythmically. Generally emphasis lands on white ticks over red and blue, as is the case here as well.
00:41:493 (1,2) - Firstly I'm not sure why 00:41:327 (7,1) - would have lower spacing than 00:41:493 (1,2) - , and secondly I think you could reflect this a lot better through a 1/2 slider, as difference to the circles before it.
00:41:827 (3,4,5) - Feels really odd that the momentum speeds up and then stops almost instantly again after the slider. The motion is really contradicting, and it doesn't seem reflect the song very well from what I can hear. In this case 00:42:160 (5) - would be emphasized, but instead 00:42:327 (6) - is, same goes for 00:42:493 - etc. Doesn't really line up with the song here. Same applies to 00:46:160 (3,4,5) - .
00:42:077 - 00:44:743 - Also not really sure where you're getting these 1/4 rhythms from. Would probably accentuate the lower intensity of this part much better if those were simple 1/2 stacks instead.
00:48:743 (4) - Could probably remove this, since it's almost inaudible anyway. If you're going to actually keep it, it would be much more predictable if 00:49:077 - also had a circle in that case... but it would still be inconsistent with 00:50:243 - , so I'd recommend you just remove (4) instead.
00:51:660 (1,2,3) - What are you covering here that doesn't exist at 00:50:993 - ? It just feels rather strange that you switch between vocals and drums at 00:51:493 - seemingly randomly.
00:54:910 - 01:29:493 - Seems like a lot of difficulties have unnecessary lines all over so might as well clean it up.
01:05:410 (8) - This is also inaudible, so keeping 01:05:160 (5,6,7) - as a triple instead of a 4-note stream would be more appropriate here.
01:11:827 - I doubt having a strong vocal on a repeat like this would bring the emphasis it warrants. Even just swapping 01:11:493 (4,5) - rhythmically would cover it better, due to the notes being clickable on actual sounds rather than places like 01:11:660 - .
01:14:827 (1) - This is quite questionable. It both has higher momentum than many other parts of the song, and the slider velocity change may be rather unexpected. To be honest, a spinner would probably fit much better here.
01:17:493 (1,2) - These are equivalent of what was mapped as 00:21:493 (1,2,3) - and 00:26:827 (1,2,3,4) - earlier. Try keeping consistent in what is followed. You'll notice earlier that the blue ticks that were mapped "following the piano", 00:22:243 - , are actually snares, yet 01:17:743 - isn't. This may be why the hitsounding sounds weird around there. The piano is also ignored later on in this section, so I'd suggest you just ignore it here as well and go with how it was mapped previously.

[Kib's Expert]
00:10:827 (1) - Guessing you're following piano with this, even so I still think vocals are more prominent and the most reliable rhythm in this case. I'd have tried something like this, in which the tail of (2) is stacked on the head of the following note, (1).
00:12:160 (1,2,3) - And then unless you're going to decline the above, same stuff would apply here with 00:12:827 - being emphasized and so on.
00:13:327 (4,5) - Having this be a triple makes barely any sense. Yes, there's a faint sound on the 1/4, but just because there's a sound doesn't mean it should be mapped. A simple stack would probably work better, partly for the sake of reflecting the lower intensity of this part as well.
00:14:993 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not to speak of what was mentioned above, this alone is really not reflecting the intensity of this section in the song accordingly. 00:15:493 (4,5) - aren't even the same instrument as 00:14:993 (1,2,3) - were following, so these should not be part of the same pattern. Even just a few seconds later at 00:17:493 (1,2) - and throughout the pause after 00:18:827 - , there are plenty of audible instruments, including piano, but none of which are covered. None of the notes before or after 00:15:160 (2,4) - are any different from these, and as such they don't really stand out.
00:18:827 (2) - To be honest, just replacing this with a spinner would probably accent this buildup way better.
00:21:077 (5) - 00:26:077 (3) - 00:27:410 (4) - These sounds are still not audible impacts, and as such I don't see the point of them being clickable. Overmapping will not benefit the beatmap, and there are plenty of opportunities for it without resorting to that. Well, I think you get the idea, and considering that it hasn't been changed throughout the modding process, I'm not really sure what to make of it.
00:21:993 - You were following piano so closely in the beginning, not sure why it's suddenly not important anymore.
00:27:327 (3,4,5) - This feels really out of sync with the song. There's a snare and piano at 00:27:575 - which would be much more appropriate. Could do something similar to what was done at 00:24:827 (3,4) - .
00:34:660 (5,1,2,3,4,6,7) - 00:37:493 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are as large as, if not larger than, the ones in more intense parts in the song such as 00:59:160 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - 01:01:327 (4,1,2,3,4) - , and it doesn't exactly reflect the low intensity in this part of the song. I believe I mentioned something similar in another map of yours I modded, but try reflecting each section of the song in accordance to that section's intensity. Equaling out the intensity like this is not something the song would call for. It's important to keep contrast, otherwise it will be difficult to differentiate between phases in the song.
00:42:077 - All these silenced slider end 5% lines are not necessary here, since there aren't any slider ends to be silenced. There's quite a lot so might as well clean it up.
00:41:993 (2,3) - 00:44:660 (2,3) - I don't see why the spacing should be so different between these in comparison to others like 00:43:327 (2,3) - 00:45:993 (4,5) - 00:47:327 (2,3) - . Having similar spacing for all of them would be preferable, even ones which would pass as "stronger" have lower spacing than otherwise weaker ones at the moment.
01:07:910 - The way these are currently positioned makes it seem like this is stronger than 01:07:827 - , which isn't accurate from what I can hear. Consider simply placing a 3/4 or 1/2 slider at 01:07:827 - . Additionally, going with your overmapping theme, which I still wouldn't agree with, you could place some circle at 01:08:077 - as lead-in to 01:08:160 - .

You'll probably know from the responses whether I'm going to be pushing this forward or not. For now I feel it still needs work, perhaps gathering some more mods would help in polishing the set. Good luck!

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 8 years ago

00:10:827 (1) - i wanted to focus on piano on the first part
00:21:993 - there are more prominent instrument to follow here, and this rhythm makes playing better
00:41:993 (2,3) - and etc, i think they play similarly even if the spacing is different, i just based spacing on whatever pattern i was going for there

everything else fixed

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Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

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Underforest

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Joined July 2015

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Underforest 8 years ago

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

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Lolinator2000 wrote:
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nah, just aiming for loved

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Wheres my new name in tags

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Firis Mistlud wrote:
Wheres my new name in tags

whoops, I'll add it

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still needing stars for this lul

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