Kano - nameless -TV size-‬ · forum‬

Haruto

Joined December 2013

nanda2009 wrote:
hey

[General]

Is it just me or soft-hitwhistle51.wav is too big? It's probably ok to keep it (I dont know) but if I were you I'll find a way to reduce it's size
Inconsistent video offset on Waji's Light Insane
Final Spinners on all diffs would be more appropriate to end at 01:29:327 im not included
[Haru's Insane]
I like this map, really fun to play thank you!
00:09:494 - 00:14:660 - you might want to silence sliderends on this section, I find it more neat if you do it sure, did it on 00:11:827 - and 00:14:660 -
01:05:410 (8) - I dont think this follow anything lol, might wanna delete it there's still a synth sound of the wub from 01:05:327 - so yea.. i did this on purpose
01:16:160 (1) - hitsound error at slider head? woops, fixed xD
GL

Sotarks wrote:
haru's insane
- 00:52:160 (4) - nc oops, nc'ed lol
wow really nice diff!

gl~

Halfslashed wrote:
M4M
[Haru's Insane]
00:17:160 (3,4) - A right angle between 3, the head of 4, and the tail of 4 would work really well here. If you do this, make sure to rotate 00:18:160 (5) as well. i dont think it plays that nice :s i liked the current pattern tho. sorry ><
00:22:243 (6,7,8) - This doesn't flow well. It says follow the slider to 6, jump to 7, and then make a huge jump to 8. Even in the higher difficulties they don't use spacing this big after their 1/4 sliders, please nerf this. alright, stacked (8) under 00:21:160 (5) - instead
00:33:160 (7,1) - Avoid overlap if you can. the current overlap seems fine and has nothing to do with gameplay. tho im doing it like this just for emphasize from (7)>(1)
00:46:827 (1,4) - This would look better if you put 4 in line with 1 like this: http://puu.sh/qdwlE/903d797335.png BUT, that would break the square aesthetic here 00:47:160 (2,4,5,1) - :'C
00:48:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing between 1 and 2 is so large it is not comfortable to play, even with leniency like this. Please nerf the spacing here as well. i dont think its large :s. it plays fine imo but the pattern rom (3)>(4)>(5) is the objects who makes it not comfortable to play. tho i put 00:48:743 (4) - just for a little overmap thingy and should be fine before. but decided to delete it.
00:59:493 (3) - Could try something like this: http://puu.sh/qdwsc/f6ef6a93cd.png, and maybe try to blanket with 00:58:827 (1). This has better visual flow and doesn't overlap with 00:58:827 (1) considered since the vocal 00:59:660 - here started to "down" its tempo. making the slider looks downslide can reflect the vocal's nicely if you get what i mean
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nerf the spacing on 01:03:160 (1,2) so that it's between 01:02:827 (1,2) and 01:03:493 (1,2). noo i wanted to make it a large spacing to reflect the "jumpy" vocal xd
01:07:160 (7,1) - Move and rotate to achieve something like this to prevent an overlap between these objects: http://puu.sh/qdwBG/e6c8b1cce7.png ugh no, i do better overlap it rather making it blanket. edgy slider usually hard to blanket, especially this kind of slider. sorry for it ><
01:08:160 (1,2) - Fix your blanket, or consider one if it wasn't intended. it wasnt mean to be blanket here pls. can you see it xd im just doing some little half shapped square pattern here 01:07:993 (2,2) - + 01:08:160 (1) - 's tail
01:16:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - At 00:20:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6) you had jumps on 3, 4, 5, and 6, but yet here you don't have any jumps at all. You need to either nerf the beginning or add jumps here for consistency. considering, will do this later i guess

That's all I have to say, great set, good luck!

thanks for the mods guys! dont mind the red ones, they are actually helpful but im just picky when it comes to these things

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

Halfslashed wrote:
[Hard]
Uh... I know this isn't helpful, but I couldn't find a single thing to comment on. Wow. Thanks c:
[Easy]
I'm not questioning the rankability of this, but I really do think you should map the beginning of this like every other difficulty, since it's definitely possible to do and you can do some cool slider art as well. It's rankable and since it's the easiest diff I want to give a preparation time on the beginning cause large sliders and that things won't match
00:38:160 (4,1) - Tighten up this blanket. fyi, isn't a blanket

That's all I have to say, great set, good luck!

Thanks

Korey

141 posts

Joined August 2013

Korey 9 years ago

KuranteMelodii wrote:
00:10:244 (2,3) - fix blanket Wrong time stamp, don't understand which you want me to fix

http://puu.sh/qdAIt/817bc53074.jpg i meant this, should understand if you look at the image not a big deal but would be better if you fixed that.

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Halfslashed wrote:
[krt's Expert]
Most of what I mean with spacing consistency is probably caused by autostacking, and I think you should account for that when making your blankets.
00:22:827 (1,2,3) - Spacing should be consistent with 00:21:494 (1,2,3). They both look the same for me
00:28:160 (1,2,3) - Spacing should be consistent with 00:26:827 (1,2,3) Are you sure that they're in different spacing? They're stacked completely
00:43:827 (2,1) - I think you could blanket the tail better.
00:50:827 (1,2) - You can probably make a better blanket here.
01:17:494 (1,2,3) - Bigger spacing would work here. 2x like you dd in the beginning. Put closer instead
01:18:827 (1,2,3) - 2x works better here too. ^
01:22:827 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:24:660 (4,5,6) - ^ Nope
00:28:660 (4,5,6) - ^ ^

This was mostly picky aesthetic, because that's all I could find.

That's all I have to say, great set, good luck!

ikorza wrote:
KuranteMelodii wrote:
00:10:244 (2,3) - fix blanket Wrong time stamp, don't understand which you want me to fix
http://puu.sh/qdAIt/817bc53074.jpg i meant this, should understand if you look at the image not a big deal but would be better if you fixed that.

Keep this, this one looks fine

others fixed

thanks for the mod~

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The pain when finding another BN to rank my Prima Stella when my map got rejected even the meme master monstrata

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 9 years ago

Hey :/

Namelesshope

00:20:493 (2) - this overlap a little bit disturb the visual of the map
00:23:660 (4) - slider feels random atm and the spacing techniques is really weird and dificult to read based on the music
00:24:493 (2,3,4) - why you didnt do mapping style like 00:21:993 (4,5,6) - ? (that piano sounds loud)
00:29:660 (2) - put 1/2 slider in here is really better than put circle on 00:29:827 -
00:52:160 (1) - fix the curve on http://puu.sh/qdCwh/e81af6484e.jpg
00:55:993 (6,1) - this spacing looks awkward and pointless for anti jump effect
the kiai feels weird :/
01:00:077 (9) - i think this can be like this http://puu.sh/qdCC0/87249c6147.jpg since that split streams feels not okay for the pattern like that
00:57:410 (10) - same i think
01:04:993 (1,2) - this not feels overmap a bit
01:10:743 (9) - i guess it's your style :/ but trust me the flow like that didnt work correctly for this song
not really hard for X icon map lol
okay

looks i can't continue for other diff maybe later, bye
#FAILM4M

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

fixed all thx

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
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Version:Waji's Light Insane
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Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Removing tons of unnecessary timing points

osu file format v14

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[Editor]
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Title:nameless -TV size-
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Artist:Kano
ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
Creator:Underforest
Version:krt's Expert
Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun
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Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

lol too quick 3 pages
updated

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 9 years ago

Holy, really lots of moddings orz

nanda2009 wrote:
[karia]

00:52:160 (1,1,1) - I found the second slider really out of place, maybe you can delete it and extend the first one to 00:54:077 instead Followed breathing

[ R e i m u ] wrote:
[Karia's Nameless Hope]
00:56:993 (6) - make this a new combo, helps ease they eye towards the double triples Current NC pattern is better for reading imo..
01:18:827 (1) - consider moving this slider to the right, to make it easier on the eye idk, this is already clear
01:23:077 (2) - stacking this upwards is awkward, maybe switch the stack direction in the direction of the slider Think of how auto-stack works, this triplet is fine.

Very good map, hard to find any mistakes at this point

Sotarks wrote:
karia's nameless
- 00:15:160 (1) - useless nc and also placing this note here is really a bad gameplay for player, this rythmn change is too sudden when u place it under this slider,
i'll recommand u to place it somewhere in x256y73, also if u ass the NC on this note, remove the NC on 00:15:493 (2) -. Moved another space. And this NC is for separating patterns, which are 00:12:160 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:15:493 (1,2,3) - .

- 00:22:243 (5) - this is really akward to play, consider making this a normal triple like you did after, but starting a slider on a blue tic here feels really akward, also like the way it is placed. This was fine whe I played. Guess the rhythm what this followed...
- 00:37:993 (6,7) - ovoid this small overlap by mooving it a bit on the right! They are not overlapped.
- 00:57:410 (10,1) - please nerf that spacing, it doesn't fit at all on a song like that, you may want to use this in drumstep/wub map but not a Kano moe song pls, you can fix that by putting a regular triple stacked on ton of this slider. All elements which included vocal and cymbal are strong, so I broke the flow in the opposite direction wiht 1/4 jumps for emphasize those beats powerfully.
- 00:59:993 (8,9,1) - same dude pls
- 01:10:660 (8,9,1) - ^ wow u used it everywhere xd

ikorza wrote:
Karia's
00:11:493 (4) - 1/4 repeated slider, theres no sound on 00:11:827 - so it should be alright to change I don't want to follow the rhythm detailedly in first part.
00:21:493 (1) - 3/4 slider instead? just so 00:21:743 (2,3) - these two are differentiated Current rhythm is right for music.
00:22:493 (6,7) - crt g the rhythm? 00:22:660 (7) - not much happening on 7 so might aswell make it a slider end. or do what krt did in their diff. Same as above. Listen the music again :p
00:24:660 (3) - not enough emphasis so more spacing or change to a slider Enough imo
00:28:410 - i think your missing a sound here Surely I missed this beat, but I don't want to follow this beat much.
00:34:493 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - why do you start using circles here? please explain I wanted to express the music detailed increasingly. So I used 1/2 slider at first, and used 1/2 circles, and used lots of 1/4s at the last.
00:35:993 - start a note here? its stronger sound then 00:36:160 (1) - You're right, but that is a delicate difference.
00:41:660 - note here? just stack it on 8 and then give 00:41:827 (1) - some spacing from the pair because its a new combo and should be separated idk why. But I want to follow only vocal, so want to keep currnet 1/1 stack pattern.
00:46:993 - ^ ^
00:51:493 (5,6) - the unevenness looks bad make 6 a different shaped slider id do just a straight one But this is pretty to me...
00:53:493 - start note here, i see youve got the kink in a slider but then you start a note at 00:53:827 (1) - whichmakes it seem more important when its not so either use the slider kink twice or start a note at 00:53:493 - Hmm,, 00:53:827 (1) - this is start of vocal, but 00:53:493 - this is end of vocal. Even, 00:53:493 - this isn't noticeable.
00:54:827 (1) - more spacing youve got the slider leniency and it the hitsound sounds too strong for the easy spacing About overlap, I don't mind it. And volume is also fine in this pattern to me.
01:16:160 (1) - ^ might be more acceptable though because its not leading into the kiai section This stack is for emphasize 01:14:827 (1) - this slow slider.
01:04:910 - i think there should be a note here For white combo color.

Halfslashed wrote:
[Nameless Hope]
00:21:327 (6) - Stacking under 00:20:493 (2) looks neater. Current pattern is more neat to me
00:22:243 (5,6) - The sudden spacing increase made this feel very awkward in play. Please reduce it. It's fine to play cuz 00:21:993 (4,5) - this is also 1/4 jump.
00:25:827 (2,3) - This could be improved by placing 3 in the direction of the slider, so that the player can conserve momentum from the slider, like this: http://puu.sh/qduPU/739bd57660.png. Might need a pattern rework. No problem with current flow
00:27:577 (5,6) - Again, awkward in play Same reason
00:28:493 (2) - Stack sliderhead on 00:27:577 (5) I prefer current pattern
00:28:493 (2,3,4,5) - - Improve by placing triple in front of slider for momentum. Same reason
00:34:660 (5) - Stack under 00:34:160 (3) tail. no..
00:57:327 (9,10,1) - These basically came out of nowhere. in play, and they play more awkwardly than intended. I highly suggest moving 1 closer to 9 and 10. If for stylistic reasons you still wish to keep it, at least try not to have a double overlap on the slider, maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/qdvoY/8a2b748d32.png Same reason as Sotarks' modding. I felt the pattern is fit for music.
00:59:160 (3) - Stack under 00:58:160 (4) slider end.
01:00:827 (4) - Stack under 01:00:077 (9)
01:05:993 (3,4) - Spacing inconsistent with 00:57:993 (3,4) Hmm, is there any problem?
01:08:660 (3,4) - A bit nazi, but this is also inconsistent with 00:57:993 (3,4) ^
01:10:660 (8,9,1) - Prevent overlaps if possible (here it definitely is), but the bigger problem is that this is the first instance where this pattern does not flow properly. It has a jagged movement on 9 whereas the other patterns were much more smooth. I'll get more testplay later..
01:14:493 (2) - Overlaps with 01:13:993 (6)
01:16:493 (2,6) - Stack
01:24:160 (1,2) - Fix symmetry. I prefer current pattern.
No reply about stack : I don't want to change them if there are not any special reason.

Fort wrote:
Namelesshope
00:23:660 (4) - slider feels random atm and the spacing techniques is really weird and dificult to read based on the music Hmm..? About rhythm, I just followed the music. And spacing also not big problem cuz of flow.
00:24:493 (2,3,4) - why you didnt do mapping style like 00:21:993 (4,5,6) - ? (that piano sounds loud) Cuz the music is not same........
00:29:660 (2) - put 1/2 slider in here is really better than put circle on 00:29:827 - Two circles are better to me.
00:52:160 (1) - fix the curve on http://puu.sh/qdCwh/e81af6484e.jpg Ehh,, I can't find any difference.
00:55:993 (6,1) - this spacing looks awkward and pointless for anti jump effect Current stack is best cuz I don't want the lowest leniency.
the kiai feels weird :/ :/
01:00:077 (9) - i think this can be like this http://puu.sh/qdCC0/87249c6147.jpg since that split streams feels not okay for the pattern like that
00:57:410 (10) - same i think
01:04:993 (1,2) - this not feels overmap a bit Can't understand what this means...
01:10:743 (9) - i guess it's your style :/ but trust me the flow like that didnt work correctly for this song Include above 2 suggestions, I really want to use current patten cuz I felt it from the song.
not really hard for X icon map lol But really hard to me.. orz
okay

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Thanks for moddingsssssss!

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Len

Beatmap Nominator

2,834 posts

Joined June 2012

Len 9 years ago

from q

Waji:
i think it isnt "Light" insane! change the diff name to Insane is better imo!

Karia:
seems you tried to copy skystar (+pp jump) but failed

no kds dude just my opinions! XDDXDXDXDddddddddddd goodluck!

edit: <3

Last edited by Len 9 years ago, edited 1 time in total.

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

nice try

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

update my diff pls

Kalibe

2,068 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 9 years ago

m4m late aaaa

General*

- Useless .osb file in map folder lol, please delete that.

[Easy]

- 00:25:493 (1,2,3) - Not really a fan of this flow here, how about this? http://puu.sh/qed9F/4622acaad3.jpg
- 00:32:160 (3) - Some quality stuff could be better done, like you can make a curve in this slider and move the white point around 144/206 to have a nice arranged slider with 00:33:493 (1) - // would be really cool.
- 00:52:160 (3) - NC? and btw add clap with finish here since u put that hitsound combo in hard diff~
- 01:13:493 (5) - also prefer adding NC.
- 01:21:493 (1,2) - same as before -> 00:25:493 (1,2,3) -

[Mochi's Normal]

- 00:22:827 (1) - I also hear a clap in this head.
- 00:54:827 - Those whistles sounds really noisy and not fitting song at all tbh~ Maybe cause you used CS:51 here, when later 01:05:493 - you switched into CS:50, change that to CS:50 too.
- 01:25:493 (3,4,5,6) - How about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/qeewa/dfa2ba58a4.jpg

[Hard]

- 00:12:827 (2) - I really prefer to extend that slider into 3/2 to follow full vocal here.
- 00:14:160 - so just do that things if you're gonna to change it : http://puu.sh/qeeYu/694353b522.jpg
- 00:38:493 (3,1) - The flow feels really awkward, try ctrl < , then ctrl G and move it on 52/189
- 00:56:493 (2) - Ctrl H for better flow to 00:56:827 (3) -

[Waji's Light Insane]

- 00:51:493 (1) - Spinner here is a really bad idea, even Auto barely gets 1000 in this, reconsider delete it and put in something other ;w;
- 00:37:493 (1,3) - This overlap is visible in game and doesn't look good imo, maybe just move it a little to down?

Ok, that's all from me. Good luck o/

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

Kalibe wrote:
m4m late aaaa

General*

- Useless .osb file in map folder lol, please delete that. Appears a lot of times and I delete it, the editor is too baka uwu

[Easy]

- 00:25:493 (1,2,3) - Not really a fan of this flow here, how about this? http://puu.sh/qed9F/4622acaad3.jpg I'll think about it
- 01:21:493 (1,2) - same as before -> 00:25:493 (1,2,3) - ^

[Hard]

- 00:12:827 (2) - I really prefer to extend that slider into 3/2 to follow full vocal here. I want to do consistency with 00:09:494 (1,2) -

deleted = ✓

thanks

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 9 years ago

m4m

Easy

00:09:494 - i think starting the map later is a bit too lazy. You could map like 8 objects MAX or smth to emphasise the intro for this Easy dif.
- 00:09:494 (1) - 4/1 (one measure) long.
- 00:12:160 - 00:14:827 - same
- 00:16:827 - note
- 00:17:493 (1) - 2/1 repeat slider
(5 objects)
00:54:827 - My problem with the first kiai is that its almost equaly dense as 00:20:160 - :/ Change some 1/1 sliders into notes (
- 00:58:827 (3) - change this into a 1/1 slider
- and add two notes here 00:59:493 - 00:59:827 -
- 01:09:493 (3) - same here if you'd like

Nromal

00:09:494 - i guess you are mapping the vocal line here
first pattern feels very onky to play
- 00:09:994 (2) - stretch it out to 00:10:660 - so its capture the whole vocal note
- (00:11:327 - you could add a note here aswell)
00:54:827 - mb reduce the lenths of the bell hitsounds. They overlap with eachother and make it awkward to listen to (or dont use them)
01:12:160 (4,5,6,1) - wierd rythm choice imo. I woul have 01:12:827 - and 01:13:160 - be clickable. the way you have it atm you creat a 3/2 gab between 01:12:993 (6) - and 01:13:493 (1) - . http://puu.sh/qevDL/6834f6182e.jpg or http://puu.sh/qevFQ/45181247bd.jpg
01:14:827 (1,1) - you could argue that the gab between those is a bit too short for a normal dif map. (you coudl change 01:16:827 (1) - with a single circle on 01:17:160 - )
01:25:493 (3) - http://puu.sh/qevSR/2f36518d41.jpg a rythm like this would play alot smoother than what you have atm.

Hard

00:26:160 (3,4,5) - Imo this has a very inconvenient float
00:28:160 (1,2,3) - same
00:40:660 (2,3) - imo change it to smth like this http://puu.sh/qew9A/757f8941cb.jpg
01:00:827 (3,1) - very bad overlap for a hard if you ask me :/
01:04:160 (1,2,3) - the visual flow could be made a lot better here. http://puu.sh/qewgx/bbef65ae8a.jpg
01:07:660 (3) - put this into the flow line of the slider http://puu.sh/qewhX/5fbb6b6ba2.jpg no reason to blanket it ://
01:08:660 (2,3) - this would look a lot better if you tilsted the slider a little. http://puu.sh/qewlA/1160caaf8a.jpg
01:11:660 - about this part. try this rythm http://puu.sh/qewq7/565dcc03d3.jpg
01:16:160 - 01:26:827 - the copy paste............

didnt rly like the insane difs. I dont think i could mod those right now :/

imo the lower difs still look a bit clunky at time and I belive they could use some polish
other than that i wish you best of luck!

CaffeAmericano

615 posts

Joined January 2015

CaffeAmericano 9 years ago

Hi there~

Haru’s Insane

00:18:827 (1) - Consider extending this slider to 00:20:077 - . It’s awkward to place a large jump after a slow slider, but the sound at 00:20:160 - is fairly impressive. So maybe 1/4 clicking + sudden SV change can do the emphasis

00:20:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Nice star, but the drum at 00:23:827 (5) - is so strong and piano at 00:21:493 (1) - is so beautiful that I think it would be better to break the star and give larger jumps for emphasis. 00:23:493 (3,4,5,6) - is similar, but I like the flow break at 00:24:160 (1) - :3

00:22:577 - I think this should be clickable, since you made preceding similar sounds clickable. I think what you’ve done at 00:27:827 (7) - also works.

00:24:660 - Also grumpy that this isn’t clickable. Looks like an important sound to me

00:25:493 (1) - May I suggest a larger jump or a flow break to emphasize this sound? 00:20:160 (1) - was immediately following a slow slider, so small ds is understandable, but 00:25:160 (6,7) - having nearly same DS as 00:25:327 (7,1) - doesn’t seem right

00:38:410 (6,1) - Blanket could be improved

00:44:160 (1,4) - ^

01:01:993 (4,5) - This seem to be one of the largest jumps so far, but I think it has pretty weak sound. Sudden DS decrease at 01:02:160 (5,6) - doesn’t play very well either imo. Consider stacking 01:02:160 (5) - with the tail of 01:00:827 (3) - . I think it compliments well with the increase in pitch at 01:02:493 -. ...apparently, someone else already pointed this out, but let me upvote his opinion xD

00:20:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - 01:16:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Seems inconsistent with the part that starts at 00:20:160 - and at 00:25:493 -

Kiai seems to have very few jumps compared to non-kiai. Instrumental part at the beginning and the end, it makes sense. But at least for the calmer parts, I would expect it to be reverse :3

Krt’s Expert

00:31:827 (5,1,2) - Asymmetry between 00:32:160 (1,2) - are too noticeable and not good imo

00:43:827 (2,1) - I get a feeling that you aren’t particularly fond of perfect blankets, but here… Blanket could be improved

00:52:827 (1,1) - It would look nicer if the gap between sliders ( http://puu.sh/qewt6/c3df32129e.jpg ) had equal distance

01:18:494 (6,7,8) - 00:22:494 (6) - Inconsistency with a reason or change for the sake of it?

01:24:160 (1,2,3,4) - All the other parts with similar sound had sharp turn in the flow (ie. 00:22:827 (1,2,3,4) - 00:28:160 (1,2,3,4) - 01:18:827 (1,2,3,4) - ), but this part is fairly obtuse (?). Here are some of my artwork for clarity: Note sharp: ( http://puu.sh/qex8I/8ae27a7ae3.jpg ) Sharp: ( http://puu.sh/qexcI/971860dcab.jpg http://puu.sh/qexgq/47e3f32299.jpg ). I think sharp turn flows better for this music/pattern

Karia’s Nameless Hope

00:23:827 - 01:19:827 - 강한 드럼은 클릭 하게 잡아 주신것 같은데, 여기만 슬라이더 꼬리에 뭍혀 있네요. 일관성 있게 한거 보면 의도된 것 같은데, 왜 그런지 잘 모르습니다~

01:13:660 (2,3,4,5,6,2) - 일부러 01:14:493 (2) - 슬라를 앞부분 01:14:493 (2) - 연타랑 오러랩 시켜 두신 것 같은데, DS가 맞지 않네요. 의도하신게 아니면 (159, 218) 로 옮겨서 DS 맞출수 있을듯.

GL with the set!

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

Smokeman wrote:
m4m

Easy

skipped intro cause deleted

(5 objects)
00:54:827 - My problem with the first kiai is that its almost equaly dense as 00:20:160 - :/ Change some 1/1 sliders into notes ( I'll think

Hard

01:00:827 (3,1) - very bad overlap for a hard if you ask me :/ but is allowed so it's fine
01:11:660 - about this part. try this rythm http://puu.sh/qewq7/565dcc03d3.jpg
01:16:160 - 01:26:827 - the copy paste............ it's only a smallish part, it doesn't affect overall mapping at all

didnt rly like the insane difs. I dont think i could mod those right now :/

imo the lower difs still look a bit clunky at time and I belive they could use some polish I think they are fine in terms or rhythm but I'll consider this in the future
other than that i wish you best of luck!

Really thanks for your mod, I appreciate it

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

wajinshu wrote:
update my diff pls

almost forgot this, done

Momochikun

1,954 posts

Joined October 2012

Momochikun 9 years ago

nanda2009 wrote:
hey

[Mochi's Normal]

there's still some unused inherited points, mainly the one used to silencing (00:42:077), fix them
00:09:494 (1,2,3,4) - For me, you can try to focus on the vocal instead of piano, because it's the loudest one to be heard on this part, also you mappe the vocal after this fixed
tbh for me patterns like 00:34:827 (3,4,5) is pretty difficult, because 3 is a short repeating slider which makes it difficult to know when will it end, which makes this hard too sightread. You can keep it though because there's already an easier difficulty but I personally will change it to a 1/2 slider, as it fits with the bass and vocal that's fine imo
00:51:493 (1) - you can extend this one to 00:54:160 or maybe add a note there, it's empty there, and you already make 01:14:827 (1,1) so why not? nope i want to keep some breaks here

wow

Modem wrote:
~~Placeholder :3~~

Okay, M4M is here~ >w</

Mochi's Normal

* 00:11:327 - How about add a note at this part? Since you consistently mapping her voice at 00:09:494 (1,2) , 00:12:160 (1,2,3,4) , 00:15:160 (1,2,3,4,5) , and 00:17:493 (1) it's too much imo, changed the pattern before

* 00:38:493 (6,1) - This blanket could be improved by making this slider -> 00:38:827 (1) a bit less curvy like this :

Then, move the next slider -> 00:39:493 (2) into x:111 y:270 to fix the distance snap

* 00:44:493 (2) - How about moving the red point of this slider's frame right to the middle in order to have better emphasize of her voice? nope

* 00:51:493 (1) - Lower down the volume of this spinner into 25%. Because using 50% volume at this spinner was a bit too noisy, since the music is kinda low here and Kano's voice is more dominant yea fix

* 01:02:827 (1) - Remove the clap and only use the finish instead, since the voice of the clap was somehow disturbing the finish hitsound which emphasizing the cymbal from the main music i see

* 01:11:493 (3) - Would be nice if you emphasizing her voice by making this slider into a perfectly 'v'-shaped slider nah

Halfslashed wrote:
M4M

[Mochi's Normal]
01:02:493 (6,1) - You could blanket these. done
01:16:827 (1) - Why did you deviate from the rhythm here at 00:20:827 (1,2)? i want a variation, it's not a problem
01:19:493 (2) - Here as well, but corresponding to 00:23:493 (2,3) this time.

That's all I have to say, great set, good luck!

Kalibe wrote:
m4m late aaaa

[Mochi's Normal]

- 00:22:827 (1) - I also hear a clap in this head. great catch, fixed
- 00:54:827 - Those whistles sounds really noisy and not fitting song at all tbh~ Maybe cause you used CS:51 here, when later 01:05:493 - you switched into CS:50, change that to CS:50 too. yes
- 01:25:493 (3,4,5,6) - How about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/qeewa/dfa2ba58a4.jpg okay

Ok, that's all from me. Good luck o/

Smokeman wrote:
m4m

Nromal

00:09:494 - i guess you are mapping the vocal line here
first pattern feels very onky to play
- 00:09:994 (2) - stretch it out to 00:10:660 - so its capture the whole vocal note
- (00:11:327 - you could add a note here aswell) changed rhythm
00:54:827 - mb reduce the lenths of the bell hitsounds. They overlap with eachother and make it awkward to listen to (or dont use them) yes
01:12:160 (4,5,6,1) - wierd rythm choice imo. I woul have 01:12:827 - and 01:13:160 - be clickable. the way you have it atm you creat a 3/2 gab between fix on my own 01:12:993 (6) - and 01:13:493 (1) - . http://puu.sh/qevDL/6834f6182e.jpg or http://puu.sh/qevFQ/45181247bd.jpg
01:14:827 (1,1) - you could argue that the gab between those is a bit too short for a normal dif map. (you coudl change 01:16:827 (1) - with a single circle on 01:17:160 - ) nah 2 beats is fine for normals
01:25:493 (3) - http://puu.sh/qevSR/2f36518d41.jpg a rythm like this would play alot smoother than what you have atm.

didnt rly like the insane difs. I dont think i could mod those right now :/

imo the lower difs still look a bit clunky at time and I belive they could use some polish
other than that i wish you best of luck!

thanks for modding

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pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

pkhg 9 years ago

[Easy]

00:50:827 (2,1) - todo es mas bonito si el objeto siguiente esta hacia donde apunta el slider http://puu.sh/qeJCS/1d08fe7813.jpg
hay muchas partes mas en todo el map pero muy dificil de cambiar xd
01:16:160 (1) - no copypasterino

[Mochi's Normal]

00:54:827 - i guess you forgot to change sampleset cuz that cymbal sound is spammed all over first kiai xd
cute as always

[Hard]

00:27:827 (4) - clap

00:51:160 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - nice flow

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usalo con sabiduria (y con 4 de stack leniency)

01:23:827 (4) - clap tambien porque esta copypasteado xddddddddddddd

[Waji's Light Insane]

00:51:493 (1) - spinners dont count as hit so u might want to add a circle then move the spinner 1/4 later

[Haru's Insane]

hi monstrata

00:18:827 (1) - http://puu.sh/qeKw7/cf66e3928d.png
01:01:493 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont know what makes this section different from all the others in the kiai to make those jumps. you have literally no jumps until here and looks more like youre mapping to fit your structures more than the music itself (the entire maps is like this lo)
01:28:660 (2,1,2,3,4) - and put a jump on a soft part
you have more jumps in the beginning than the kiai like what is emphasis x d
looks nice but stuff^^^

[krt's Insane]

00:52:160 (1,1,1,1) - what are you mapping lol
01:26:993 (1) - 1ms off lul

kano sounds weird on this song

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

CaffeAmericano wrote:
Krt’s Expert
00:31:827 (5,1,2) - Asymmetry between 00:32:160 (1,2) - are too noticeable and not good imo I checked and they're in the same shape, but i adjusts the position

00:43:827 (2,1) - I get a feeling that you aren’t particularly fond of perfect blankets, but here… Blanket could be improved ORZ

00:52:827 (1,1) - It would look nicer if the gap between sliders ( http://puu.sh/qewt6/c3df32129e.jpg ) had equal distance Done, but it's so hard to fix...

01:18:494 (6,7,8) - 00:22:494 (6) - Inconsistency with a reason or change for the sake of it? Originally both of them are in consistent rhythm, but after i review Karia's Expert i desired to follow some of his rhythm a little bit, But then i am unable to place at the outro because if i replace the triples with repeat circles will result in unnecessary overlaps, so i desired to split with intro and outro to have variants of rhythm

01:24:160 (1,2,3,4) - All the other parts with similar sound had sharp turn in the flow (ie. 00:22:827 (1,2,3,4) - 00:28:160 (1,2,3,4) - 01:18:827 (1,2,3,4) - ), but this part is fairly obtuse (?). Here are some of my artwork for clarity: Note sharp: ( http://puu.sh/qex8I/8ae27a7ae3.jpg ) Sharp: ( http://puu.sh/qexcI/971860dcab.jpg http://puu.sh/qexgq/47e3f32299.jpg ). I think sharp turn flows better for this music/pattern Hmmmm... Instead of which kind of flow fits the music, i want to focus on playability.....meh, okay
GL with the set!

pkhg wrote:
[krt's Insane]
00:52:160 (1,1,1,1) - what are you mapping lol I split up the wind up sound into 4 parts, and yep, i am mapping to the wind sound
01:26:993 (1) - 1ms off lul It's a spinner orz, maybe keep this for now
kano sounds weird on this song True...

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wajinshu

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Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

I remove the spinner and fixed overlap. Thanks!

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

Modem wrote:
* How about adding more variation at your combo colors?
[Colours]
Combo1 : 170,213,255
Combo2 : 0,0,159
Combo3 : 32,133,255
Combo4 : 212,212,212
Just a suggestion though :3 Replaced a bit

* How about adding soft-hitclap51 using the soft-hitclap50? Since Mochi use S:C51 during the first half of the kiai time in his/her GD, and the clap of that custom has not been customed yet, which make the hitsounds didn't blend well with the main music. So, it would be convenient if you add soft-hitclap51 by using the soft-hitclap50 lmao that was an hitsounding error, fixed

* Your bell hitsound is very cute and beautiful. I'm crying ;w; Glad you love it!

* Others are pretty fine~ :3 Great :3

Easy

* 01:02:827 (1,2) - This blanket is soooo beautiful ;w; Glad you like it!

* 01:12:827 (4) - How about flipping this slider horizontally for the better roundy flow to the next slider -> 01:13:493 (1) ? o.o maybe

Hard

* 00:46:327 (3) - How about replacing this 1/2 slider into a note instead? Because, unlike 00:40:660 (2) and 00:40:993 (3) , the voice and the music around this part (00:46:327) were at the white tick (00:46:493) , so somehow it feels unnecessary to map the red tick which didn't have any voice or music to be mapped/emphasized [color=FF0000]i'm following voice also, so I don't think note is need to be replaced[/color]

Modem wrote:
Kano's voice is more dominant
Agree

That's all~~~
Very solid mapset indeed <3

Anyway my map for M4M : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/477519

Good Luck in Rank~! />w</

Deleted = Fixed
This also was a helpful mode, thank you so much!

pkhg wrote:
[Easy]
01:16:160 (1) - no copypasterino :V
[Hard]
01:23:827 (4) - clap tambien porque esta copypasteado xddddddddddddd todos lo usan hoy en dia uff
kano sounds weird on this song true

gracias

updated waji and krt

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

waiting for haruto (reply to caffe, pkhg, modem), waji (reply to modem), kurante (reply to modem) and karia (reply to modem and caffeamericano)

Last edited by Underforest 9 years ago, edited 1 time in total.

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Modem wrote:
krt's Expert

* How about using 4 Stack Leniency instead of 1 for the safer ranking process? Since the other mappers and the other ranked map were rarely using 1 Stack Leniency even in their hardest diff (extra diff, etc). Moreover, it caused an error in AiMod which probably might make you deal with the QATs for this problem
If i remember correctly, having lower stack leniency is rankable, there's rarely have stacked notes

* 00:18:827 (1) - Wow, nice slider art >w<. But it would be nice if its shape having a little bit adjustment here and there for the neater shape like this :
Kinda unsure what you want me to do

* 00:52:827 (1) - Adjust the second and the third point of this slider's frame a little bit to improve the blanket with 00:52:160 (1) like this :
Nah i am gonna stick to this one, it doesn't effect very much

code

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 54160
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.899999

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Title:nameless -TV size-
TitleUnicode:nameless -TV size-
Artist:Kano
ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
Creator:Underforest
Version:krt's Expert
Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun
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Deleted = fix or fixed in previous mod

Maybe i should recheck everything lol

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

moved to wip, I'll get a new extra
i'll find 5 mods for that diff and then calling bn xd

still waiting for replies c:

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 9 years ago

Modem wrote:
Karia's Nameless Hope

* Using 4 Stack Leniency instead of 5 in this difficult would add more aesthetic touch at every 1/2 stacks :3 4 and 5 are same in 1/2 stack
* 00:52:160 (1,1,1) - They were perfect ;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;w; <333333333333333333 <3
* 01:00:827 (4) - Stack the head of this slider with this note -> 01:00:077 (9) instead of overlapping them? I prefer current overlap
* 01:05:993 (3) - How about ctrl + G this slider? So that it would make a nice rounded flow with 01:05:827 (2) and form the back and forth jump with 01:06:160 (4) Keep for now. I like current flow more.

* Awesome diff!!!

CaffeAmericano wrote:
Karia’s Nameless Hope

00:23:827 - 01:19:827 - 강한 드럼은 클릭 하게 잡아 주신것 같은데, 여기만 슬라이더 꼬리에 뭍혀 있네요. 일관성 있게 한거 보면 의도된 것 같은데, 왜 그런지 잘 모르습니다~ 머리쪽 사운드가 더 강하게 들려서 이렇게 잡아 주었습니다.

Deleted = Fixed
Thanks for moddings!

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

updated

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

Modem wrote:
Waji's Light Insane

* HP 6 please >.< why

* Using 4 Stack Leniency instead of 5 in this difficult would add more aesthetic touch at every 1/2 stacks :3

* Please add a short kiai time for the blast effect at 01:16:160 ~ 01:16:243 just like the other diffs to keep the consistency in this mapset

* 00:13:827 (1,3) - This blanket could be improved like this : nah

* 00:17:160 (2,3) - Here too, you could improve the blanket like this : ^

* 00:51:493 (1) - Lower down the volume of this spinner into 25%. Because using 51% volume at this spinner was a bit too noisy, since the music is kinda low here and Kano's voice is more dominant

* 00:51:493 (1) - This spinner was too short, even auto only could get 1.000 score from the spinner. Please expand this spinner up to 00:53:493 instead, so that it would emphasize Kano's voice instead and the players could catch up with that spinner I already deleted the spinner

Thanks!

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Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

And now, the mapper have to put his mapset into a furnace for an extra layer of GD

Then, the mapper use a wet wooden tools to polish the mapset shape, this process whats called "modding"

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

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Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,846 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 9 years ago

ended up being an expert diff instead X:

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Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

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Haruto

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Modem wrote:
Haru's Insane

* Oh, hey again Haru~! >w</ (Your GD is everywhere XD) nahh not really xD i only do GDs to people that knows me well or already knows me >v<

* CS 4 please ;w; ~~was made for pp~~ /jk actually this was made to make a big but not very big gap from light insane.

* Using 4 Stack Leniency instead of 5 in this difficult would add more aesthetic touch at every 1/2 stacks :3 i actually prefer SL 7 in this song sorry

* 00:18:827 (1) - Cute >v< thank you! idk which shape should i make xD cuz i dont have any inspiration when starting map this song xD

* 00:52:243 (1) - Lower down the volume at this spinner into 25% please~ Because using 40% ~ 50% volume at this spinner was a bit too noisy, since the music is kinda low here and Kano's voice is more dominant sure, changed the volume

* 01:07:993 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Super nice rounded flow <3 thank you~

* 01:14:827 (1) - I always love the way you were making the slider art (seriously) i dont really like this shape cuz i dont have much creativity nor inspirations to create something nice lul but thank you so much~

* 01:16:827 (3,4,5,6) - Ctrl + G these notes -> 01:16:993 (4) and 01:17:160 (5) , then swap their hitsounds, to make the better zig-zag jumps around this part, and it would the emphasize with 01:17:493 (1) goes well great idea! ctrl+g'ed them <3

* Very nice diff <33333333 Thank you So much!

That's all~~~
Very solid mapset indeed <3 and your mod is nice too!

Good Luck in Rank~! />w</

CaffeAmericano wrote:
Hi there~

Haru’s Insane
00:18:827 (1) - Consider extending this slider to 00:20:077 - . It’s awkward to place a large jump after a slow slider, but the sound at 00:20:160 - is fairly impressive. So maybe 1/4 clicking + sudden SV change can do the emphasis extended and changed the slidershape+lowered the SV

00:20:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Nice star, but the drum at 00:23:827 (5) - is so strong and piano at 00:21:493 (1) - is so beautiful that I think it would be better to break the star and give larger jumps for emphasis. 00:23:493 (3,4,5,6) - is similar, but I like the flow break at 00:24:160 (1) - :3 hmm... did a big jump there instead. tho, the previous star pattern is completely enough but ppl seems dislike it or smth so i changed it instead xd hope the current one will fine enough.

00:22:577 - I think this should be clickable, since you made preceding similar sounds clickable. I think what you’ve done at 00:27:827 (7) - also works. didnt intend to follow any piano here so should be okay

00:24:660 - Also grumpy that this isn’t clickable. Looks like an important sound to me ^

00:25:493 (1) - May I suggest a larger jump or a flow break to emphasize this sound? 00:20:160 (1) - was immediately following a slow slider, so small ds is understandable, but 00:25:160 (6,7) - having nearly same DS as 00:25:327 (7,1) - doesn’t seem right spaced more

00:38:410 (6,1) - Blanket could be improved fixed

00:44:160 (1,4) - ^ seems fine enough to me ;o

01:01:993 (4,5) - This seem to be one of the largest jumps so far, but I think it has pretty weak sound. Sudden DS decrease at 01:02:160 (5,6) - doesn’t play very well either imo. Consider stacking 01:02:160 (5) - with the tail of 01:00:827 (3) - . I think it compliments well with the increase in pitch at 01:02:493 -. ...apparently, someone else already pointed this out, but let me upvote his opinion xD did something xd

00:20:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - 01:16:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Seems inconsistent with the part that starts at 00:20:160 - and at 00:25:493 - fixed smth on modem's mod

Kiai seems to have very few jumps compared to non-kiai. Instrumental part at the beginning and the end, it makes sense. But at least for the calmer parts, I would expect it to be reverse :3 idk, i'll keep these for now cuz i still need others opinion about it too... might need a time if i remapped this cuz im ver busy these days
GL with the set!

pkhg wrote:
[Haru's Insane]

hi monstrata hi pkhentaig - lit120
00:18:827 (1) - http://puu.sh/qeKw7/cf66e3928d.png fixed on previous mods xp
01:01:493 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont know what makes this section different from all the others in the kiai to make those jumps. you have literally no jumps until here and looks more like youre mapping to fit your structures more than the music itself (the entire maps is like this lo) probably the spacing from (5)>(6). fixed smth on previous mod too
01:28:660 (2,1,2,3,4) - and put a jump on a soft part the song is like, "getting intense" on every its seconds so i decided to put the jumps to give a feedback on the synth sound
you have more jumps in the beginning than the kiai like what is emphasis x d d
looks nice but stuff^^^ yea, my bad lo
kano sounds weird on this song not rly lo

Thanks for mods pkhg, caffeamericano and modem for the nice mods!

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Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 9 years ago

hi hi m4m here sorry i'm late lol kano's vocals do not fit the video all that well tbh
[Easy]

00:09:494 (1,2) - i think the issue is obvious here, but just in case, the (2) is slightly touching the (1) and it looks pretty bad aesthetically since it looks unintentional. rotate the (2) counterclockwise a bit?
00:17:160 - i wouldn't ignore this beat since it sounds like you're following vocals here but then forgot this vocal note. consider adding a circle here
00:39:827 - there's a really audible kick here i don't think you should ignore either; consider adding a circle here
00:46:827 (1) - just my opinion here, but sharp corners on a slider like this look kind of bad on easier difficulties due to how squished it feels. consider spacing it out a bit more? alternatively, you could add another pivot point and make the slider look something like this?
SPOILER

[Mochi]

00:09:494 (1,2,3,4,5) - umm i think you should follow the vocals more with this pattern since all the other patterns before the spinner follow the vocals and then this one is like not following vocals all that great
00:38:827 (1) - hmm consider dividing this up into 1/1 slider at 00:38:827 - and circle at 00:39:327 - ? 3/2 slider here feels strange here because it's the longest slider here

[Hard]

just an idea here, but why not consider reversing the order of 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - ? the piano does this interesting thing here where it places emphasis on 00:24:660 - so i think it'd be cool to map to that emphasis
SPOILER
00:43:327 (2,3) - consider stacking these like you stacked 00:41:993 (2,3) - ? i think stacking would be neat since the vocal composition and rhythms are near identical for these parts so it'd be cool to capture that repetition by making the patterns similar
00:44:660 (2,3) - ^yeah that could apply here too
01:01:493 (1,2) - nothing wrong with this in particular, but i do have to wonder why the pattern here is much simpler than everything else in the chorus? it just feels out of place to me :v
01:14:827 - consider placing a circle here and starting the spinner on the blue or red tick after it? downbeat here is pretty emphasized so i think it'd be a wasted opportunity for it to not be clickable
01:20:493 (2,3,4) - same suggestion that i suggested at 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - but it's not really necessary; just something i thought would be neat

[Waji]

01:11:160 (1,2,3) - pattern here just seems really simple in comparison to the rest of the difficulty.. doesn't really fit imo since this is one of the most intense parts of the song, and then it feels like something that would be in an Easy or Normal. i'd consider buffing up the patterning here

[Haru]

00:16:493 (1,2,3) - should probably be a triangle and you should probably start a new combo on 00:17:493 (4) - . reasoning is because of the pitch in vocals; 00:16:493 (1) - matches the increase in pitch well, but then 00:17:493 (4) - doesn't
00:21:743 - forgot a note here? you mapped one at 00:27:077 (3) - which is basically the same piano pattern
00:38:410 (6) - using a 3/4 slider you skipped a pretty emphasized beat on 00:38:493 - . why not try a circle at 00:38:410 - and a 1/2 slider on 00:38:493 - ?
00:42:327 (6,7) - i think the clap on the slider end should be clickable. why not try reversing the order of notes here? you could stack the circle over the slider head if you do-
SPOILER
00:46:327 (5,6) - ^similar thing about how i think reversing the order of notes here would be better because of emphasis on clap should be clickable
01:22:827 (1) - not gonna map to the blue tick at 01:23:077 - ?

[krt]

00:32:827 (3,4,5) - so the thing is, you ended up skipping the kick that's on the white tick at 00:33:160 - by going with this pattern that doesn't really fit with the drums all that well. why not consider using a pattern like in Kib's Extra? this applies to the patterns at 00:35:494 (5,6,7) - and 00:38:160 (5,6,7) -
00:41:827 (1) - uhhhh why does this clap sound different from the rest of the claps 00:42:494 (2) - 00:43:160 (1) - 00:43:827 (2) - etc.
00:45:160 (2) - why is the slider end quiet here? none of the other slider ends in this section are quiet like this..
00:52:160 (1,1,1) - what are these mapped to? the music here isn't strong enough to support beats like these.. i think using a spinner or one long slider like in Karia's diff would be better than using three 3/2 sliders that aren't really mapped to anything
01:06:493 (5,1) - don't you love blanket mods?

[Kib]

00:12:660 (3) - okay so the opening part before the drums start coming in sounds like you're mapping to the vocals more closely than to the piano, but then you have this long slider that goes over the vocal note at 00:12:827 - so yeah i'd consider splitting up this slider and making that white tick at 00:12:827 - be clickable as well

[Karia]

00:13:493 (3,4) - minor thing that people will end up pointing out so i'll point it out first; stack here is a little screwed up
00:32:827 (5) - consider extending this to the blue tick and making it a 3/4 slider? kind of doesn't fit the rest of the next few patterns since 00:35:493 (5) - 00:38:160 (7) - and 00:39:493 (5) - are all 3/4 sliders

[]
hope this helps!

Suisei Hosimati

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Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

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Xayler

629 posts

Joined November 2013

Xayler 9 years ago

Still wondering why starting at 10 sec and not mapping the piano, just my opinion.

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

When I set second 4 as offset, my editor gots bugged and everything unsnaps 1ms, also I want a break before starting. I won't change, thanks.

Xayler

629 posts

Joined November 2013

Xayler 9 years ago

Underforest wrote:
When I set second 4 as offset, my editor gots bugged and everything unsnaps 1ms, also I want a break before starting. I won't change, thanks.

I had smth like 170 as offset and works fine, idk. And by the piano I meant the piano which is 1/6 maybe? inside the song.
Maybe move all notes by 1ms after the changes?
Nevertheless, it's playable anyways so just threw some ideas what I had.
And no I didn't mean anything to change, that's your map not mine

SPOILER

I see a kinda huge gap between Normal and Hard, so would you accept an Advanced diff?

Probably not, right...

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

No advanced diff, thanks xD

Suisei Hosimati

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Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Doormat wrote:
hi hi m4m here sorry i'm late lol kano's vocals do not fit the video all that well tbh
[krt]
00:32:827 (3,4,5) - so the thing is, you ended up skipping the kick that's on the white tick at 00:33:160 - by going with this pattern that doesn't really fit with the drums all that well. why not consider using a pattern like in Kib's Extra? this applies to the patterns at 00:35:494 (5,6,7) - and 00:38:160 (5,6,7) - It's impossible to follow all the instrumental in this song, since the song itself is kinda weird, so i desired to follow the guitar, and ignore some drum, since guitar is stronger here, Kibb uses vocal mapping, which is different from me since i wanted to do instrumental mapping for this diff
00:41:827 (1) - uhhhh why does this clap sound different from the rest of the claps 00:42:494 (2) - 00:43:160 (1) - 00:43:827 (2) - etc. Uhhhh.... I think it's your auditory problem, it's fine from my side
00:45:160 (2) - why is the slider end quiet here? none of the other slider ends in this section are quiet like this.. ok
00:52:160 (1,1,1) - what are these mapped to? the music here isn't strong enough to support beats like these.. i think using a spinner or one long slider like in Karia's diff would be better than using three 3/2 sliders that aren't really mapped to anything Even i got a mod complaining the same thing, I still disagree that you think those sliders mapped to nothing, even a single slider or a spinner works here, i prefer to use a complexed rhythm
00:52:160 (1) - The wind up sound starts here
00:52:827 (1) - Wind up sound goes down a pitch
00:53:494 (1) - Wind up sound goes up a pitch
00:54:160 (1) - Wind up sound repeats 00:53:494 (1) -
Not just i could map this wind sound more precisely, I think it gives better and smoother build up on this part
01:06:493 (5,1) - don't you love blanket mods? meh
hope this helps!

Sorry for late, ty for mod~

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lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 9 years ago

Doormat wrote:
[Karia]
00:13:493 (3,4) - minor thing that people will end up pointing out so i'll point it out first; stack here is a little screwed up Here's no problem in-playing
00:32:827 (5) - consider extending this to the blue tick and making it a 3/4 slider? kind of doesn't fit the rest of the next few patterns since 00:35:493 (5) - 00:38:160 (7) - and 00:39:493 (5) - are all 3/4 sliders The 3/4 beat is not strong at the first. Additionally, I don't want 3/4 slider at the fist.

Thanks for modding!

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,061 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 9 years ago

This is a friendly remiinder to stay on topic. Cleaned the topic up a little.

Also did a quick IRC mod with wajinshu concerning their difficulty. Fixed up a couple of blankets, slightly improved things here and there. Moved the spinner 1 grid up.

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

@ Doormat Was changed to another rhytm
Thanks!

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Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

Updating uwu
@Doormat I'll get to the mod soon I'm very busy and also internet :c

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 9 years ago

can you add the real title of this anime in the tags?

all the ramen on the sky

Kalibe

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Kalibe 9 years ago

Kibbleru wrote:
all the ramen on the sky

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Kalibe wrote:
Kibbleru wrote:
all the ramen on the sky

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

damn I didn't notice it
ty kibb, added

Hazu-

3,882 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 9 years ago

Holo~
No kds, solo hay algunas cosas que me preocupan.

General

Waji's Light Insane no tiene video.
El tag "Ex" está de mas en Kib's Expert.
Una cosa que siempre se quejan en varios mapas, ese color azul es bastante difícil de ver (tanto para los que juegan con la pantalla oscurecida como no), sugiero hacerlo un poco mas claro.

Easy

00:10:827 (2) - Debido al bajo DS se ve muy "pegado" el centro del slider al slider anterior, movería el sliderpoint ligeramente hacia abajo para que no quede tan mal.
00:37:493 (3) - nazi blanket :v :v

Mochi's Normal

01:04:160 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This combo is too difficult for Normal with 180 bpm (So I think when I played), I think delete 01:04:993 (5) - It will be easier and will not affect the rhythm.

Hard

00:24:493 (2,3) - y 01:20:493 (2,3) - Se que quieres hacer, pero creo que no sigue efectivamente el ritmo, creo que esto (o algo parecido) estaría mejor, pero es una sugerencia bastante personal, fue lo único que me incomodó de la diff.

this. GL~

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

Doormat wrote:
hi hi m4m here sorry i'm late lol kano's vocals do not fit the video all that well tbh
[Easy]
00:09:494 (1,2) - i think the issue is obvious here, but just in case, the (2) is slightly touching the (1) and it looks pretty bad aesthetically since it looks unintentional. rotate the (2) counterclockwise a bit? I tried to fix this blanket instead
00:17:160 - i wouldn't ignore this beat since it sounds like you're following vocals here but then forgot this vocal note. consider adding a circle here done
00:39:827 - there's a really audible kick here i don't think you should ignore either; consider adding a circle here ok
00:46:827 (1) - just my opinion here, but sharp corners on a slider like this look kind of bad on easier difficulties due to how squished it feels. consider spacing it out a bit more? alternatively, you could add another pivot point and make the slider look something like this?
SPOILER
[Hard]
just an idea here, but why not consider reversing the order of 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - ? the piano does this interesting thing here where it places emphasis on 00:24:660 - so i think it'd be cool to map to that emphasis ok
SPOILER
00:43:327 (2,3) - consider stacking these like you stacked 00:41:993 (2,3) - ? i think stacking would be neat since the vocal composition and rhythms are near identical for these parts so it'd be cool to capture that repetition by making the patterns similar done
00:44:660 (2,3) - ^yeah that could apply here too ok
01:01:493 (1,2) - nothing wrong with this in particular, but i do have to wonder why the pattern here is much simpler than everything else in the chorus? it just feels out of place to me :v done :v
01:14:827 - consider placing a circle here and starting the spinner on the blue or red tick after it? downbeat here is pretty emphasized so i think it'd be a wasted opportunity for it to not be clickable ok
01:20:493 (2,3,4) - same suggestion that i suggested at 00:24:493 (2,3,4) - but it's not really necessary; just something i thought would be neat I decided to apply it anyways
hope this helps!

Hazu- wrote:
Holo~
No kds, solo hay algunas cosas que me preocupan. whoops
General
Waji's Light Insane no tiene video. Añadido
El tag "Ex" está de mas en Kib's Expert. Arreglado
Una cosa que siempre se quejan en varios mapas, ese color azul es bastante difícil de ver (tanto para los que juegan con la pantalla oscurecida como no), sugiero hacerlo un poco mas claro. En este caso es diferente, porque no hace mala combinación con el fondo y encaja perfectamente
Easy
00:10:827 (2) - Debido al bajo DS se ve muy "pegado" el centro del slider al slider anterior, movería el sliderpoint ligeramente hacia abajo para que no quede tan mal. Esto ya fue arreglado con el mod que me brindó Doormat
00:37:493 (3) - nazi blanket :v :v No está mal de todas formas
Mochi's Normal
01:04:160 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This combo is too difficult for Normal with 180 bpm (So I think when I played), I think delete 01:04:993 (5) - It will be easier and will not affect the rhythm.
Hard
00:24:493 (2,3) - y 01:20:493 (2,3) - Se que quieres hacer, pero creo que no sigue efectivamente el ritmo, creo que esto (o algo parecido) estaría mejor, pero es una sugerencia bastante personal, fue lo único que me incomodó de la diff. Este ritmo también fue cambiado con el mod de Doormat
this. GL~

thanks
waiting for your reply, mochi

Underforest

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Underforest 9 years ago

got some testplays from nowhere on extra diff thanks everyone

lit120

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lit120 9 years ago

sorry for almost a month late

[karia]

01:26:660 (5,6) - an optional, so yaaa. just use 1/4 slider on (5) to make it easier for 5 stream notes rather than having a smaller chance for combo break by 6 stream notes

[kibboo]

00:13:993 (2) - i guess someone needs to do a manual stack here

[lemme guess... kurante]

fishy blanket a lot
00:10:160 (2,3) - mind about blanketing this?
00:12:160 (1,2,3) - this one too
00:14:160 (4) - stack at (1) pls
00:43:827 (2,1) - wot's this?
00:59:160 (2,4) - fishy blanket
01:07:160 (2,4) - ^
01:10:827 (1,2) - ^

GL!

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

lit120 wrote:
sorry for almost a month late

[lemme guess... kurante]

FOREST SHOW YOU WHO MADE THOSE GDS IN THE DESCRIPTION AOIFAESHGTOIEWRGJWAEH
fishy blanket a lot
00:10:160 (2,3) - mind about blanketing this?
00:12:160 (1,2,3) - this one too
00:14:160 (4) - stack at (1) pls
00:43:827 (2,1) - wot's this?
00:59:160 (2,4) - fishy blanket
01:07:160 (2,4) - ^
01:10:827 (1,2) - ^
GL!

All fixed~ And thanks for making my eyes hurt by making me eyeballing those blankets lol

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lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 9 years ago

@lit120 : It's fine cuz the combo starts from streams for reading.

Thanks for modding!

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

updated

jeanbernard8865

600 posts

Joined December 2014

jeanbernard8865 9 years ago

M4M part 2

krt’s Expert

00:30:993 (2,3) - maybe ctrl+h this to reset flow ?

00:32:160 (1,2) - I don’t understand why you put sliders here while everywhere after it you did 4 circles

00:43:827 (2) - flows awkwardly, move it slightly to the right

Can’t find anything else after 4 checks, guess it’s all

Rank when I need pp

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

AyanokoRin wrote:
M4M part 2

krt’s Expert
00:30:993 (2,3) - maybe ctrl+h this to reset flow ? Resetting the flow here might plays weird

00:32:160 (1,2) - I don’t understand why you put sliders here while everywhere after it you did 4 circles K

00:43:827 (2) - flows awkwardly, move it slightly to the right Ctrl+ G instead

Can’t find anything else after 4 checks, guess it’s all

Rank when I need pp

And yeah, it's from my queue

I am not sure does you updated my diff before this mod

osu file format v14

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

this map is not dead yet
i'll try to find a bn once I rank my yukitoki thing

posting this to reset grave counter

Deppyforce

1,986 posts

Joined November 2014

Deppyforce 9 years ago

cool song

[General]
00:04:160 - offset should be here

[Mochi's Normal]
00:16:827 (5) - curve a bit like http://puu.sh/qZnJv/b578fbabdd.jpg flows a bit better with next note imo
00:51:493 (1) - try start spinner here instead

[Hard]
00:54:160 - end spinner at starts of vocals here fits better imo
01:10:493 (4) - could split to 2 circles cuz theres snare on both head and tail

[Waji's Light Insane]
00:10:827 (1,3) - fix blanket?
00:24:660 (3,7,8) - maybe make triangle for better aesthetics
00:38:827 (1,2) - try 1/1 + circle instead on these so u can map a bit more rhythm xd
01:26:327 (6) - use circles for this instead would be harder ( and thats better

[krt's Expert]
01:00:077 - ignored 1/4 here :c
i like this diff

[Kib's Expert]
01:19:160 (2) - lame af try this or smth http://puu.sh/qZpvy/eecbddcfa4.jpg
01:24:493 (2) - lame same

ok thats it lazy k bye gl

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

No fix, the slider end hits the 1/4 drum, i use slider so i can emphasize the finish at 01:00:160 (1) -

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 9 years ago

Fixed all except for 00:38:827 (1,2) -

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

I almost forget this map uwu
i'll reply and update soon

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

explained offset thing before
no fix on my diff

thanks for mod

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Updated the last slider art

 osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 54160
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.899999

[Metadata]
Title:nameless -TV size-
TitleUnicode:nameless -TV size-
Artist:Kano
ArtistUnicode:鹿乃
Creator:Underforest
Version:krt's Expert
Source:ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
Tags:Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin Aruderamin Ending Tom-H@ck KuranteMelodii wajinshu Haruto Haruto_Aizawa Karia Momochikun Kibbleru
BeatmapID:1031031
BeatmapSetID:483206

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
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SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Electoz

Beatmap Nominator

1,899 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 9 years ago

Posting here to inform that I gave kudosu to Deppyforce since wajinshu fixed almost everything from his mod.

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

Electoz wrote:
Posting here to inform that I gave kudosu to Deppyforce since wajinshu fixed almost everything from his mod.

oh i forgot it, thanks

[Moe_yuexia]

10 posts

Joined December 2013

[Moe_yuexia] 9 years ago

kano fans +1
add as fav

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,846 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 9 years ago

uhm, fixed. why is there barely any suggestion for me :c

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

updating soon

Hokichi

831 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 9 years ago

Underforest wrote:
---NM---
Title: nameless
Artist: Kano
Link: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/483206
Drain: 1:30
Specified diffs: If you can all the mapset, but Experts are more prefered
Extra:

This is a BN, and I'm noticing you

Jk

[Easy]

00:12:160 (3,4) - Idk, is overlapping allowed in Easy diffs? I don't think it is... I think you should fix them all

Rather than that, this diff is well-made

[Mochi's Normal]

00:09:494 (1,2) - Move 00:09:994 (2) - to 00:10:160 - then add a note at 00:09:994 -

00:09:494 (1,2,3,4,5) - The beat of this part that you mapped is weird. Please change it

00:40:660 (4,5) - Consider merge these into 1 slider

00:55:993 (4) - Move this to 00:56:160 - then add a note at 00:55:993 -

00:58:660 (4) - ^

01:01:327 (4) - ^. Or you can do something like 01:06:827 (4,5,6) -

[Hard]

00:39:327 - Add a note here please

01:05:160 (4) - Try something like this

Nice diff

Ok, that's all

Good luck with this great set ^^

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

@Hokichi

Easy: Yes, overlaps are allowed for Easy diffs, as long as you don't make it messy
Hard: Fixed first point, Second point: there's no beat on second blue tick

thanks
also 20 favs

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 9 years ago

Remapped some parts

osu file format v14

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Also asked 2 peoples to testplay

1

15:09 KuranteMelodii: Hi kibb
15:09 KuranteMelodii: hentai :3w
15:11 Kibbleru: :3w
15:12 KuranteMelodii: Can i ask for testplay
15:12 Kibbleru: ya
15:12 Kibbleru: as long as not too hard
15:13 KuranteMelodii: 5.09
15:13 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/ruVq5/6bc4fa0f8b.osz
15:13 KuranteMelodii: krt's expert
15:13 KuranteMelodii: lol i know that you made a diff
15:13 Kibbleru: `wait do i update
15:13 KuranteMelodii: Don't update it because i remapped some part from the current pending one
15:14 KuranteMelodii: I am just curious about that 12121212 jump part
15:14 KuranteMelodii: I always choke at there when i was playing my diff
15:14 KuranteMelodii: #blamenotelock
15:17 KuranteMelodii: Soooo.. is that those jump part too hard?
15:18 Kibbleru: i just suck at playing those back and forth
15:19 Kibbleru: even tho i make alot of those
15:19 KuranteMelodii: lol
15:19 KuranteMelodii: I thought that it's my bad on mapping those back and forth
15:20 KuranteMelodii: thanks anyways :d

2

15:24 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/ruVq5/6bc4fa0f8b.osz
15:26 KuranteMelodii: 啊
15:26 KuranteMelodii: 別update
15:26 _Yiiiii: 我更新了一下
15:26 _Yiiiii: orz
15:26 _Yiiiii: 我重新下
15:26 KuranteMelodii: 我從pending的版本remap了一部分
15:28 _Yiiiii: 感觉特别容易断
15:29 KuranteMelodii: 那一部分
15:29 KuranteMelodii: 01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -
15:29 KuranteMelodii: 這裡?
15:29 _Yiiiii: 我都不知道怎么接上的
15:29 _Yiiiii: 哪里都容易路人断
15:30 _Yiiiii: 00:21:994 (4,5,6) -
15:30 _Yiiiii: 像这个就挺容易读错的
15:31 KuranteMelodii: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6227470
15:31 KuranteMelodii: 這樣改如何
15:32 _Yiiiii: 不是形状问题
15:32 _Yiiiii: 是间距问题
15:32 _Yiiiii: 虽然间距统一了
15:32 _Yiiiii: 我再来一pc
15:32 KuranteMelodii: 好
15:34 _Yiiiii: 我大概知道问题了
15:34 KuranteMelodii: 大觸請受我一拜
15:35 _Yiiiii: 01:18:827 (1,2,3) -
15:35 KuranteMelodii: 這個
15:35 _Yiiiii: 就是这么带着间距下条加三连一般都是音为三连在重音上
15:35 KuranteMelodii: 是不是太難讀
15:35 _Yiiiii: 这个谱只要下三连就是这样
15:35 _Yiiiii: 对
15:36 _Yiiiii: 所以有些难读
15:36 _Yiiiii: 如果没有重音的话，用小DS接在滑条尾就可以了
15:36 KuranteMelodii: 不疊後用DS行嗎
15:37 _Yiiiii: 可以
15:37 _Yiiiii: 反正只要第一个圈离滑条尾进一点就好
15:37 KuranteMelodii: 01:17:494 (1,2,3) -
15:37 KuranteMelodii: 那個要嗎
15:38 _Yiiiii: 这个改了
15:38 KuranteMelodii: 好
15:38 _Yiiiii: 01:18:827 (1,2,3) -
15:38 _Yiiiii: 像这个音比较重，保持这样就好了
15:38 KuranteMelodii: 恩
15:40 _Yiiiii: 话说改出现在背景上的字出现的时间和字的颜色是要找QAT是么？
15:41 KuranteMelodii: 你不是说这里太難讀嗎
15:41 KuranteMelodii: 是
15:44 KuranteMelodii: 還有
15:44 _Yiiiii: 。
15:44 KuranteMelodii: 例如01:18:243 (5) - 這裡的滑條要改嗎
15:45 _Yiiiii: 再近一点吧
15:46 KuranteMelodii: 01:18:243 (5) - 疊到 x313 y84行嗎
15:47 _Yiiiii: 挺好

What i changed

00:23:827 (7) - This is unstacked to have more consistency on 01:19:827 (7,1) -
00:21:494 (1,2,3) - 00:22:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - etc... Unstacked to have better readability
00:28:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Remapped rhythm
00:29:160 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Remapped entire pattern to have better consistency and flow
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Remapped for playability (And it makes the sr looks more like an expert, phew!)
01:10:494 (5,6,7) - Unstacked for emphasis

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 9 years ago

updated kurante
will find a bn for check i don't want to see this in loved status ;_;

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 8 years ago

re-dl
changed bg

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Blankets

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Mint

1,611 posts

Joined February 2013

Mint 8 years ago

Hi! From my M4M queue.

[General]

Doesn't seem to problematic, but since most difficulties follow the vocal track in the intro for obvious reasons, you might want to get 00:13:494 (3) - checked out. To me, the timing issue isn't that big of an issue since it keeps playability and the song fixes itself fast - but having some confirmation on this would be the best.
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[Easy]

Might just completely be me, but the 1/1 spacing looks really close. Sometimes it almost looks like things overlap, while they don't. Hard to explain, but a bit of space between objects keeps everything a bit more readable to some extent. In this case for example, changing spacing to 1.1x (or changing CS) would work better for me. Comes down to personal preference though, up to you - rest looks fine.

[Hard]

00:32:160 (1,2,3) - I do think having breaks in a Hard difficulty is good, but actually the non-prominent beats are clickable now. I recommend, that if you consider using breaks every now and then, to start on some loud beat again so it's easy to pick up. Try this instead? http://puu.sh/seXe5/519f549079.jpg
00:51:160 (2) - ~~copy paste slider looks better~~

[waji's]

01:26:493 (8) - rip claps on reverses

[Haru's]

00:16:160 (4,4) - My issue with these is that they are actually emphasizing the less prominent sounds... while the square pattern works and helps with reading, triangular shaps would've benifitted the rhythm so much more.
00:21:493 (1,2,3,4) - I've observed from your previous maps you tend to view "emphasis" in a whole other way, but I really recommend doing it the "mainstream" way here. Not only does the stack and the short distance between (3,4) cause reading problems for (4,5,6) - it could just easily be fixed if you unstacked these and make the jump between (2,3).
00:48:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - Way too big and way too sudden. If you wish to keep this 1/4 stuff, I highly recommend moving these closer. The antiflow combined with drastic spacing changes really create an imbalance here.
01:22:827 (1,2,3,4,5) - Honestly, if you're going to make every other identical part with no-gap 1/4 stuff, not sure why you decided to break it just here.
The arrangement generally seems fine, but I still have trouble understanding your way of emphasizing stuff and offbeat rhythms. Aside from that, it plays fine though - one thing I'd really pay close attention to is consistency, which is usually your strong part, but feels surprisingly feels lacking here. To me, there's no clear distinction between 1/2 and 1/4 distance and the concepts and spacing values just keep changing non-stop (like 01:17:493 (1,2,3,4,5) - ). This should be an easy fix for most patterns though, rest looks OK.

[krt's]

00:32:827 (5,6,7) - Had a bit of a trouble reading this as 1/4 in the beginning. Spacing does make sense, but I think it's mostly because of the intensity of the part. Bringing them closer would help a bit imo.
00:37:160 (4,1) - You might want to space this further, even your 1/4 spacing gets larger than this.
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I always have some second thoughts on jump patterns like these, but they seem to be the thing now everyone likes. Anyways, to me this lacks a bit of variation - especially when you consider you make the same movement on the same side of the screen for quite a while. Perhaps something to consider in future maps too.
01:14:827 (1) - Just for the aesthetics, but I feel that sliders like these don't really fit the overall concept, since you usually use a lot of curves. Having a slider like this one is just a bit of a surprise/inconsistency aesthetically.
I think you've improved a lot since the last time I saw your work. Difficulty could be more polished when it comes to 1/4 switches in spacing & patterning, but these are just minor issues.

[Kib's]

00:13:327 (4,5) - Don't really think 1/4s play/fit well here at all. If you're following the vocal track, keep in mind that the vocal on the white tick is delayed significantly, making this pretty awkward to play. Also, it seems your main focus is on the instruments in the intro as well, making it even more confusing.
00:15:660 (5) - No sound here? Having such long strains of 1/2 in an intro like this feels a tad too overdone. Would either remove this, or change (4) into a slider.
00:27:327 (3,4,5) - Variety is cool, but it seems rather inconsistent to suddenly follow something else with the triplets. The snare on the blue tick is skipped now and I personally feel this does more bad than good here.
00:28:493 (2) - 01:24:493 (2) - Eh... personally not a big fan of these, as you can here the interesting snare rhythm in hitsounding covered by only one reverse - oh well, up to you.
00:29:493 (1,2,1) - Honestly, still after a few tries this is barely readable to me. On a intense part, having breaks like these not only breaks the intensity, but also causes spacing issue between (1,2,1). Combined with the tricky rhythm that's introduced here you might want to consider changing this. 01:25:493 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - worked much better.
00:34:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Feels really overdone for a calm part like this, kinda similar to the stuff in KIAI time in terms of spacing - which doesn't seem optimal for this part of the song. // 00:37:493 (1,2,3,4,5) -
01:10:493 (2,3,4,5) - Personally feel that these could be separated a bit more. After a kickslider with this intensity I feel like a triplet would actually be easier to catch with bigger spacing to really make the kickslider feel like 1/2.

[Karia's]

I think your style and arrangement is really awesome, a style I've grown to love after your few recent maps. It feels a bit overdone though for a rather quiet song like this, but I feel this can still pass.

Mochi's & Karia's look OK to me.
I feel there's still room for improvement, but not far from ranking.

Good luck for now!

Suisei Hosimati

3,049 posts

Joined March 2013

Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

appleeaterx wrote:
Hi! From my M4M queue.

[krt's]
00:32:827 (5,6,7) - Had a bit of a trouble reading this as 1/4 in the beginning. Spacing does make sense, but I think it's mostly because of the intensity of the part. Bringing them closer would help a bit imo. ok for this but... It does get little weird on aesthetics though
00:37:160 (4,1) - You might want to space this further, even your 1/4 spacing gets larger than this. ok
01:02:827 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I always have some second thoughts on jump patterns like these, but they seem to be the thing now everyone likes. Anyways, to me this lacks a bit of variation - especially when you consider you make the same movement on the same side of the screen for quite a while. Perhaps something to consider in future maps too. I like this though, although it's true that it's kinda only moving in one part on the screen and it have lack of variation, But i wanted to properly split them into 2 parts without making some awkward movement between 01:02:494 (5,1) - , 01:03:993 (2,1) - and 01:04:994 (2,1,2,3,1) -
01:14:827 (1) - Just for the aesthetics, but I feel that sliders like these don't really fit the overall concept, since you usually use a lot of curves. Having a slider like this one is just a bit of a surprise/inconsistency aesthetically. ok
I think you've improved a lot since the last time I saw your work. Difficulty could be more polished when it comes to 1/4 switches in spacing & patterning, but these are just minor issues. I do agree those 1/4 spacing and patterning is kinda weird though, i look though all the 1/4 spacing and fix them with DS

Hope that i don't mess up again

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Thanks for the mod~

P.S. Karia is god

pkhg

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pkhg 8 years ago

ya te modee el map hace tiempo plzz

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

pkhg wrote:
ya te modee el map hace tiempo plzz

ayy xd se me olvido
modea este entonces https://osu.ppy.sh/s/508842

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

fixed apple's mod, waiting for gders

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

My mapping still sucks

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

KuranteMelodii wrote:
My mapping still sucks

xd

lolia

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lolia 8 years ago

appleeaterx wrote:
[Karia's]
I think your style and arrangement is really awesome, a style I've grown to love after your few recent maps. It feels a bit overdone though for a rather quiet song like this, but I feel this can still pass. xD

Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Karia is god

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

KuranteMelodii wrote:
Karia is god

yes

lolia

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lolia 8 years ago

nooooo

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

Karia wrote:
nooooo

what? xd

Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

~~antigrave~~

edit: removed krt's diff as requested by him

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

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Naxess 8 years ago

Greetings, I was requested.

Saw this set like a month ago and was planning to give a mod, I guess now's the time.

[Waji's Light Insane]

00:11:493 (3) - Considering that there's a sound at 00:11:827 - and 00:10:660 - , making 00:10:160 (3) - a 3/2 and 00:11:493 (3) - a 1/1 would probably be more appropriate. That way there's no need to skip over 00:10:660 - , and 00:11:493 (3) - will end where the piano does.
00:12:827 (3,3) - Similarly these two could be 3/2. The former in order to cover 00:13:327 - , the latter to bridge easier into 00:14:993 - using polarity, instead of resorting to overmapping with 00:14:827 (1) - .
Speaking of 00:14:827 (1) - , there's no audible impact here, so might as well remove it. The previous suggestion will have covered the potential polarity here.
00:17:493 (3) - See no reason to stray from your NC pattern of every downbeat here.
00:34:492 (4) - Could snap this to the timeline.
00:36:160 (1,3) - Hiding notes under other notes, causing potential difficulty in reading, probably wouldn't fit very well in calmer sections. It hasn't been used else where around here either. I'd suggest you try some pattern like this instead, for example.
00:52:243 - If you'd like to fill this space, it's always possible to start a spinner here for the buildup. Would probably reflect it better as well.
00:54:910 - 01:27:493 - 01:29:160 - 01:29:494 - btw these lines are unnecessary, remove them.

[Haru's Insane]
00:21:743 - Not going to have a circle here like you had at 00:27:077 - ? In my opinion it would cover these much better.
00:21:327 (6,1,2) - The fact that the note before and after is basically the same as this, makes it much less emphasized than the song suggests. In order to solve this, you could turn (1) and (2) into a slider. Same goes 00:26:827 (1,2) - .
00:29:493 (1,2) - Would prefer it if the spacing here was at least similar or less than the spacing between 00:29:827 (4,5) - , for the sake of accentuation. Could move 00:29:493 (1) - to (147; 230), for example.
00:32:243 (2) - Not quite sure what you're trying to reflect here. There's plenty of other sounds around here that could be used for triples, for example 00:32:410 - .
00:35:493 (5,6) - Similarly to the second point, emphasizing (5) through a slider would probably work better. Especially since 00:35:660 - is barely audible.
00:36:827 - 00:37:160 - For this part you could turn both into 1/2 sliders. The former to cover the vocal, the latter to cover the instrument.
00:38:160 (5,6) - Not quite sure the emphasis is going in this order, seems more correct swapping them rhythmically. Generally emphasis lands on white ticks over red and blue, as is the case here as well.
00:41:493 (1,2) - Firstly I'm not sure why 00:41:327 (7,1) - would have lower spacing than 00:41:493 (1,2) - , and secondly I think you could reflect this a lot better through a 1/2 slider, as difference to the circles before it.
00:41:827 (3,4,5) - Feels really odd that the momentum speeds up and then stops almost instantly again after the slider. The motion is really contradicting, and it doesn't seem reflect the song very well from what I can hear. In this case 00:42:160 (5) - would be emphasized, but instead 00:42:327 (6) - is, same goes for 00:42:493 - etc. Doesn't really line up with the song here. Same applies to 00:46:160 (3,4,5) - .
00:42:077 - 00:44:743 - Also not really sure where you're getting these 1/4 rhythms from. Would probably accentuate the lower intensity of this part much better if those were simple 1/2 stacks instead.
00:48:743 (4) - Could probably remove this, since it's almost inaudible anyway. If you're going to actually keep it, it would be much more predictable if 00:49:077 - also had a circle in that case... but it would still be inconsistent with 00:50:243 - , so I'd recommend you just remove (4) instead.
00:51:660 (1,2,3) - What are you covering here that doesn't exist at 00:50:993 - ? It just feels rather strange that you switch between vocals and drums at 00:51:493 - seemingly randomly.
00:54:910 - 01:29:493 - Seems like a lot of difficulties have unnecessary lines all over so might as well clean it up.
01:05:410 (8) - This is also inaudible, so keeping 01:05:160 (5,6,7) - as a triple instead of a 4-note stream would be more appropriate here.
01:11:827 - I doubt having a strong vocal on a repeat like this would bring the emphasis it warrants. Even just swapping 01:11:493 (4,5) - rhythmically would cover it better, due to the notes being clickable on actual sounds rather than places like 01:11:660 - .
01:14:827 (1) - This is quite questionable. It both has higher momentum than many other parts of the song, and the slider velocity change may be rather unexpected. To be honest, a spinner would probably fit much better here.
01:17:493 (1,2) - These are equivalent of what was mapped as 00:21:493 (1,2,3) - and 00:26:827 (1,2,3,4) - earlier. Try keeping consistent in what is followed. You'll notice earlier that the blue ticks that were mapped "following the piano", 00:22:243 - , are actually snares, yet 01:17:743 - isn't. This may be why the hitsounding sounds weird around there. The piano is also ignored later on in this section, so I'd suggest you just ignore it here as well and go with how it was mapped previously.

[Kib's Expert]
00:10:827 (1) - Guessing you're following piano with this, even so I still think vocals are more prominent and the most reliable rhythm in this case. I'd have tried something like this, in which the tail of (2) is stacked on the head of the following note, (1).
00:12:160 (1,2,3) - And then unless you're going to decline the above, same stuff would apply here with 00:12:827 - being emphasized and so on.
00:13:327 (4,5) - Having this be a triple makes barely any sense. Yes, there's a faint sound on the 1/4, but just because there's a sound doesn't mean it should be mapped. A simple stack would probably work better, partly for the sake of reflecting the lower intensity of this part as well.
00:14:993 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not to speak of what was mentioned above, this alone is really not reflecting the intensity of this section in the song accordingly. 00:15:493 (4,5) - aren't even the same instrument as 00:14:993 (1,2,3) - were following, so these should not be part of the same pattern. Even just a few seconds later at 00:17:493 (1,2) - and throughout the pause after 00:18:827 - , there are plenty of audible instruments, including piano, but none of which are covered. None of the notes before or after 00:15:160 (2,4) - are any different from these, and as such they don't really stand out.
00:18:827 (2) - To be honest, just replacing this with a spinner would probably accent this buildup way better.
00:21:077 (5) - 00:26:077 (3) - 00:27:410 (4) - These sounds are still not audible impacts, and as such I don't see the point of them being clickable. Overmapping will not benefit the beatmap, and there are plenty of opportunities for it without resorting to that. Well, I think you get the idea, and considering that it hasn't been changed throughout the modding process, I'm not really sure what to make of it.
00:21:993 - You were following piano so closely in the beginning, not sure why it's suddenly not important anymore.
00:27:327 (3,4,5) - This feels really out of sync with the song. There's a snare and piano at 00:27:575 - which would be much more appropriate. Could do something similar to what was done at 00:24:827 (3,4) - .
00:34:660 (5,1,2,3,4,6,7) - 00:37:493 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are as large as, if not larger than, the ones in more intense parts in the song such as 00:59:160 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - 01:01:327 (4,1,2,3,4) - , and it doesn't exactly reflect the low intensity in this part of the song. I believe I mentioned something similar in another map of yours I modded, but try reflecting each section of the song in accordance to that section's intensity. Equaling out the intensity like this is not something the song would call for. It's important to keep contrast, otherwise it will be difficult to differentiate between phases in the song.
00:42:077 - All these silenced slider end 5% lines are not necessary here, since there aren't any slider ends to be silenced. There's quite a lot so might as well clean it up.
00:41:993 (2,3) - 00:44:660 (2,3) - I don't see why the spacing should be so different between these in comparison to others like 00:43:327 (2,3) - 00:45:993 (4,5) - 00:47:327 (2,3) - . Having similar spacing for all of them would be preferable, even ones which would pass as "stronger" have lower spacing than otherwise weaker ones at the moment.
01:07:910 - The way these are currently positioned makes it seem like this is stronger than 01:07:827 - , which isn't accurate from what I can hear. Consider simply placing a 3/4 or 1/2 slider at 01:07:827 - . Additionally, going with your overmapping theme, which I still wouldn't agree with, you could place some circle at 01:08:077 - as lead-in to 01:08:160 - .

You'll probably know from the responses whether I'm going to be pushing this forward or not. For now I feel it still needs work, perhaps gathering some more mods would help in polishing the set. Good luck!

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 8 years ago

00:10:827 (1) - i wanted to focus on piano on the first part
00:21:993 - there are more prominent instrument to follow here, and this rhythm makes playing better
00:41:993 (2,3) - and etc, i think they play similarly even if the spacing is different, i just based spacing on whatever pattern i was going for there

everything else fixed

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Underforest

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Underforest 8 years ago

going to update with my reply soon

Underforest

5,895 posts

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Underforest 8 years ago

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Suisei Hosimati

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Add my diff back if you want to get this loved

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Lolinator2000 wrote:
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nah, just aiming for loved

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Suisei Hosimati 8 years ago

Wheres my new name in tags

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Firis Mistlud wrote:
Wheres my new name in tags

whoops, I'll add it

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still needing stars for this lul

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