@Side Fixed everything else except the last suggestion, I think keeping it iscool, gives some variation to the streams I suppose
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Strategas wrote:
[Bonzi]
00:47:006 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - autostacking destroys your star patern here, looks super gross when 6 is so close to that tripple i believe you were referring to 01:19:830 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - ? Anyways fixed
01:30:771 (2,3,4) - 00:32:006 (5,6,7) - 00:34:300 (2,3,4) - is also something you probably didn't intend with autsotacking fixed
01:38:888 - add note? ok
Akali wrote:
Bonzi's light insane
00:36:771 (1) - skip's downbeat and very strong sound for no reason, use 2*1/2 maybe i know skipping a downbeat is meh, but i think following the wub sounds (00:36:771 (1) - , 00:36:771 (1) - and 00:36:771 (1) -) works better
00:42:418 (1,2) - 3/4 stack is pretty hard to read, will be mistaken as 1/2 pretty often, return slider or space out i think you can tell the difference pretty easily actually, there are quite a few 3/4 which are not that difficult to read. In my opinion the real problems are things like 00:43:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - and the following 00:44:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , which make just for quite a terrible mess.
00:48:065 (1) - like before ^
01:05:006 (1) - ^ ^^
Thanks for the mods guysSide wrote:
[Bonsai]
00:17:888 (5) - Don't be afraid to start on dat blue tick yo (please don't be afraid ;-; [PLEASE!!!!! ;A;]) How about we don't mess further with this already messed up rhythm? eh xd
00:18:594 (1) - I love you for this. Dunno if it really matters to u but you could try to move the red node more to the center. Use 1/8 snap so you can see it's not centered. Yeah sure
00:20:447 (2) - This is fine as it is but somehow I wanna double. I guess it's okay for the difficulty lvl tho yeah id rather have it as it is
00:32:006 (5,6,7) - Might wanna manual stack this. Looks weird auto stacked. If you do this it applies for others such as 00:34:300 (2,3,4) - etc. fixed both
01:05:712 (3,4) - imo clap should be on (3) not (4) doesn't quite make sense, given the rhythm
01:38:183 (2) - Add finishes on the first two repeats okay
https://puu.sh/sh9Gr/d37fe2f8b3.osu
Nominated.
so is the "You must cut your mp3 if you're using less than 80% of it." rule outdated? Because if it is all of the diffs are between 77.5 to 77.9%
I might just be reading the rule wrong but the intro does count towards that 80%, but the outro doesn't. so just based on the percentage of the song over at the last note (since the intro comes before the song and is included in that too) all of the difficulties fall at about 79.7%, with aka's hard falling at 79.5% and Kyshiro's insane falling at 79.9% I think I already posted a time to cut the mp3 to that would still cause it to cut out after the music fades and would also get the shortest map to be over 80% in this case.Aiceo wrote:
there's a thing called intro and outro
So what's the reason you don't want to map the ending? It's normally mappable.
Bubble popped because there's no explicit explanation on why you didn't map to the 80%.
Bubble popped because there's no explicit explanation on why you didn't map to the 80%.
Pretty sure it's unrankable regardless if he has an explanation or not lol
Ranking Criteria wrote:
However, if you have a legitimate reason for keeping your full mp3 (e.g. a storyboard after the map ends), then that is fine.
As I mentioned before cutting to 02:02:888 would just remove some silence at the end and put every diff above the 80% mark.
Consider the mapping with rewards. cYsmix made it clear he didn't want people to map the outro because while it COULD be mapped, it just made more sense NOT to map it. It's a nice little outro to play during the results screens.
Now consider this song; it's almost the same thing tbh. You COULD possibly map a bit of the ending but it won't add to the song in any meaningful way. And it won't add to the map because it's at best a slow section. And the few ways that it COULD be mapped to aren't very appealing when you think about it. What do you map to? the 1/4 synthy instrument on a slow section? the 4/1 (or 8/1 whatever) holding instrument for over 15 seconds? Sure there are a few ways that it could be done but it's just not as good as leaving it unmapped regardless of how you look at it.
At the same time it makes no sense to cut the mp3 any further because it ends on a nice resolution with the fading guitar near the end. It isn't laziness it's just music interpretation. Frankly the whole 80% rule is absolutely silly and should be revised. This thread is a good example of why this rule is imo ridiculous
Anyway I'll leave this to aiueo. Worst case scenario cutting the mp3 a bit more shouldn't be too hard.
Edit: more words
Now consider this song; it's almost the same thing tbh. You COULD possibly map a bit of the ending but it won't add to the song in any meaningful way. And it won't add to the map because it's at best a slow section. And the few ways that it COULD be mapped to aren't very appealing when you think about it. What do you map to? the 1/4 synthy instrument on a slow section? the 4/1 (or 8/1 whatever) holding instrument for over 15 seconds? Sure there are a few ways that it could be done but it's just not as good as leaving it unmapped regardless of how you look at it.
At the same time it makes no sense to cut the mp3 any further because it ends on a nice resolution with the fading guitar near the end. It isn't laziness it's just music interpretation. Frankly the whole 80% rule is absolutely silly and should be revised. This thread is a good example of why this rule is imo ridiculous
Anyway I'll leave this to aiueo. Worst case scenario cutting the mp3 a bit more shouldn't be too hard.
Edit: more words
You dont need to map the end, they all work well ending where it is, but the mp3 could be cut to remove the silence at the end, which would put all of the diffs over the 80% mark.Side wrote:
Consider the mapping with rewards. cYsmix made it clear he didn't want people to map the outro because while it COULD be mapped, it just made more sense NOT to map it. It's a nice little outro to play during the results screens.
Now consider this song; it's almost the same thing tbh. You COULD possibly map a bit of the ending but it won't add to the song in any meaningful way. And it won't add to the map because it's at best a slow section. And the few ways that it COULD be mapped to aren't very appealing when you think about it. What do you map to? the 1/4 synthy instrument on a slow section? the 4/1 (or 8/1 whatever) holding instrument for over 15 seconds? Sure there are a few ways that it could be done but it's just not as good as leaving it unmapped regardless of how you look at it.
At the same time it makes no sense to cut the mp3 any further because it ends on a nice resolution with the fading guitar near the end. It isn't laziness it's just music interpretation. Frankly the whole 80% rule is absolutely silly and should be revised. This thread is a good example of why this rule is imo ridiculous
The percent mapped is 78.32%, so I really do not see the issue. According to Aiceo, the purpose of the outro is to provide a music for the ranking panel that fits very well as it introduces a synth that was not heard in the song eariler, as well as coming out slow and giving a sense of completeness to the end of the song.
Edit 1: I completely agreed with his reasoning. Also, he claimed that he tried cutting it in other spots and it decreased the overall quality of the song.
Edit 2: Grammar n' stuffs.
Edit 1: I completely agreed with his reasoning. Also, he claimed that he tried cutting it in other spots and it decreased the overall quality of the song.
Edit 2: Grammar n' stuffs.
Topic Starter
SALTY SALTY. I thin the mp3 is cut perfectly find. I have found the best spot to cut it with a nice fade out. Cutting it somewhere else would ruin the outro. Making the fade faster would also ruin it.
It was mostly a reply to stjpa.Joezapy wrote:
You dont need to map the end, they all work well ending where it is, but the mp3 could be cut to remove the silence at the end, which would put all of the diffs over the 80% mark.
I just feel a lot of songs have a 8-16 bar intro and outro that usually lead into the "actual song" if you will, so this rule really plays against that as shown in Naitoshi's example set. Personally I feel this rule should be revised hell 75% or even 70% makes a bit more sense to me than 80% when you consider the way most music is composed.
oh, thats fair! didn't consider the possible issues with cutting too close to the fade out. I really want to see music/mapping like this ranked, so I was just making sure there wasn't anything wrong in case someone else brought it up once qualification came around.Aiceo wrote:
SALTY SALTY. I thin the mp3 is cut perfectly find. I have found the best spot to cut it with a nice fade out. Cutting it somewhere else would ruin the outro. Making the fade faster would also ruin it.
Rebubbled. Stjpa said has allowed me to and it seems like the party who was skeptical about the fade-out has reached a consensus.
Please don't kill me, I was just following the BN rules lol. His explanation seems fine to me, so there's no issue imo.
Topic Starter
It's understandable, should have wrote an explanation earlier, since I was already aware of the problem. Fixed a minor issue, updated.
normal
00:41:183 (1) - too confusing for beginners considering it's the lowest diff
01:03:771 (1,2) - weird snapping
hard
00:36:771 (1) - snap to white tick, will feel much more natural and the sound is much stronger on the white tick
abyss
00:11:271 (1) - remove nc
00:41:183 (1) - too confusing for beginners considering it's the lowest diff
01:03:771 (1,2) - weird snapping
hard
00:36:771 (1) - snap to white tick, will feel much more natural and the sound is much stronger on the white tick
abyss
00:11:271 (1) - remove nc
The rhythm is fine to be honest. It might be a bit tricky at first but it's repeated as many times as the song allows. I made it easy to understand starting at 00:18:595 (1,2) - and the rhythm repeats twice where you pointed out. The multi-repeat slider is not as tricky as it seems. In play, doesn't show up until players are already playing (1) so it shouldn't be so surprising that it will be multi-repeat as shown in the screenshots 1 2
The second point is similar to the first. Edit: I'll change it tho cuz arguably the drum is stronger than the other sound. I've taken the GD to a few newbie multi lobbies and had some noob irl friends testplay it and I haven't seen many ppl miss there tbh.
I did wanna make a change to the last slider to add a few more active objects so here's an update
Thanks tho :v
The second point is similar to the first. Edit: I'll change it tho cuz arguably the drum is stronger than the other sound. I've taken the GD to a few newbie multi lobbies and had some noob irl friends testplay it and I haven't seen many ppl miss there tbh.
I did wanna make a change to the last slider to add a few more active objects so here's an update
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Thanks tho :v
it's not fine at all, there's not reason to put it on the blue tick when the white tick is clearly dominant, it's just incorrect snapping and unrankable, the part you linked sounds completely different from this one
the multi-repeat slider should be changed too, you overestimate the ability of beginner players, they will only expect a repeat once and will be too slow to react to multi-repeat which will most likely throw them off
the multi-repeat slider should be changed too, you overestimate the ability of beginner players, they will only expect a repeat once and will be too slow to react to multi-repeat which will most likely throw them off
I think you underestimate them tbh xd (also it's not unsnapped if you consider what it's snapped to)
if you're referring to the second point however I don't mind changing that one as much cuz the drum is a bit stronger so I can change the rhythm
if you're referring to the second point however I don't mind changing that one as much cuz the drum is a bit stronger so I can change the rhythm
k, looks like everything but the multi-repeat slider got applied, after a bit of discussing
qualified!
qualified!
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GOOD SHIT AICEO