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IOSYS - Alice > Dere

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Nya_old
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 30 novembre 2008 at 14:59:18

Artist: IOSYS
Title: Alice > Dere
Tags: alice dere sweet iosys
BPM: 128
Filesize: 6025kb
Play Time: 04:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0,31 stars, 88 notes)
  2. Hard (3,88 stars, 350 notes)
  3. Insane (4,71 stars, 481 notes)
  4. Normal (2,44 stars, 286 notes)
Download: IOSYS - Alice > Dere
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first map <w< I hope you'll like it, but it isn't perfect at all -
Thanks to: Mafiamaster, Card N'force, kingcobra52, James, buraimaster1234&m980 for advices.
Thanks to Ema Skye for her irl help.
Mafiamaster
Offset: 15730
Resnap to 1/4 divisor.

Mafiamaster's Suggestions on (Hard):
01:03:07 (1) - a little shorter then move 2 closer.

Star slider 01:07:99 (1) - Do something to make it a little longer where it reaches the white tick.

01:20:18 (2) - Make this slider the same length as Slider 1, then move Slider 3 left by 1.

01:46:55 (5) - to 01:46:66 (5) then make it a little shorter.
Same thing with 01:50:30 (5) - to 01:50:41 (5) - then make it a little shorter.

02:34:36 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - all moved to 02:34:48.
Same thing with 02:41:86 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - to 02:41:98 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9).

Slider 04:00:37 (12) - to 04:00:49 (12) then fix it.

04:03:42 (13,14,15) - to 04:03:54 (13,14,15).

04:15:37 (12) - to 04:15:49 (12) then fix it by making it a tad bit shorter.

I only checked hard by the way.
IOSYS!!
Topic Starter
Nya_old
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Mafiamaster
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Card N'FoRcE
Ooook, timing is good.
You did quite well for a first map, and is also a set of 4 difficulties ^^
Anyway, you forgot to resnap the beats after changing offset (if you did it, fix them manually, cause they're all messed up) and there are quite spacing issues. Such as
- Easy:
00:19:48 (4) - jumping so far from the 3 before isn't easy. If you think about 00:21:70 (5) then it's almost absurd XD
- Normal:
00:18:54 (4,5,6) - if they have a 1/1 distance in timeline thay can't have the same spacing as the 2/1 beats.
00:29:79 (10,11) - too far
- Hard:
00:48:07 (10,11,12) - too far
00:51:82 (10,11,12) - same
01:26:98 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - this one is good. If you check the image belove you'll understand why.
- Insane:
00:30:14 (3,4) - why making them so far away unlike other similiar combos? XD
01:07:29 (2,1) - how come the spacing is higher than 01:06:82 (1,2,1)?

I didn't write all your mistakes but just a few examples. Check here for a reference about what I mean.
And another thing: use grid level 3 or you'll fail at placing beats in the grid.
Mafiamaster

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Check here for a reference about what I mean.
Fixed.

ThePassingShadow
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Topic Starter
Nya_old
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Topic Starter
Nya_old
bump! I need advice.. :?
kingcobra52
When I downloaded it, I only got the Insane difficulty for some reason. Try resubmitting.

Some issues with Insane though:

00:20:41 (5) - Make this 1/2 beat longer. snap the notes ahead accordingly.
01:07:99 (1) - Make 1/4 beat longer. Keep the heart shape though. :D
01:11:86 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Shift 1/4 beat forward. (all of them should be on white ticks)
01:17:48 (1) - Shift 1/4 forward and decrease the length by 1/4.
01:22:87 (1) - See above.
01:30:49 (12) - This slider overlaps. You'll need to reposition the start/end points so that it doesn't.
01:47:48 (2,3,4,5) - Shift 1/4 forward.
01:50:41 (1) - Extend 1/4 beat.
02:37:87 (5) - Shift 1/4 forward.
02:45:49 (3) - You'll need to extend this 1/4 beat.
02:49:36 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Shift 1/4 forward (so they're on white/red ticks)
03:00:49 (1) - Make this last 1/4 longer.
03:06:35 (1) - Add 1 more repeat.
03:41:86 (1) - Shift 1/4 forward, End 1/4 earlier.

03:45:61 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Shift 1/4 foward. :o
Also with 03:49:24 (5,6,7,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Space these out a bit more so they'll look different from the eighth notes that come later.
One more thing: I recommend you have your notes here arranged to something like this (look at the timeline): http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot010-5.png
It's a bit confusing the way it is now.

04:04:36 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Shift 1/4 forward.
04:07:87 (1) - Shift 1/4 forward, decrease length by 1/4.
04:15:37 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Shift 1/4 forward again.
04:23:23 (1) - Shift 1/2 beat back, I also recommend ending at the white tick at around 4:27.

In addition, you might also want to increase the tick rate a bit, since you have some long sliders with a fast hp drain rate. I recommend 1.

Overall, very nice for your first map and good song choice too. :)
James
not sure about the timing, but add +10 offset i guess?

insane:
i think overall difficulty is too much, try using 8?
00:20:41 (5) - end the slider at 00:20:886
00:27:91 (5) - hmmm i suggest to flip this slider vertical (looks like letter J or L) and move it at the left-center side, tail of the slider should be near circle 6, i hope you get what i mean.
01:11:862 (1)~01:13:73 (3) - move em 1/4 beat forward
01:22:87 (1) - slider starts 1/4 beat early :(
01:30:49 (12) - i suggest to reposition the beginning and end of the slider, it is confusing.
02:37:87 (5) - move this by 1/4 beat forward
02:45:61 (3) - now this one ends 1/4 beat early :(
02:49:36 (4)~02:52:87 (15) - move them by 1/4 beat forward
03:00:49 (1) - move the end of the spinner by 1/4 beat forward, sounds better
03:06:35 (1) - end the repeat at 03:07:761
03:45:61 (1)~03:54:28 (1) - move 1/4 beat forward
04:04:36 (1)~04:07:17 (11) - move 1/4 beat forward -__-
04:07:87 (1) - start the slider at 04:07:995.
04:15:37 (1)~04:21:70 (10) - move 1/4 beat forward -____________________________________________-
04:23:23 (1) - start the slider at 04:22:995

hard:
01:06:35 (9) - use the same spacing as you did with the other combo
01:15:37 (1) - start the slider at 01:15:495
01:30:49 (1) - end the slider at 01:35:886, dont forget to fix the break
01:46:55 (5) - move 1/4 beat forward (here we go again)
01:50:30 (5) - "
02:41:511 - put a circle here, because i'm awesome.
02:45:37 (1) - move the spinner by 1/4 beat forward
03:00:37 (1) - start at 03:00:495 and end it at 03:03:542
03:07:99 (4) - move 1/2 beat forward
03:09:05 (5) - move 1/4 beat forward
03:49:48 (1) - end the slider at 03:54:401
04:07:87 (1) - you know what to do
04:15:37 (12) - start the slider at 04:15:495
04:21:35 (9) - you know what to do

normal: (im getting lazy/tired now, same mistakes in hard/insane)
00:26:98 (7) - spacing
those spinners, check them, same thing you did in hard/insane
01:22:87 (1) - you know what to do
01:30:49 (1) - sigh
01:53:23 (1) - you know what to do
Test 2: Fill in the blanks.
02:30:61 (1) -
02:45:49 (1) -
04:10:10 (5) -
04:11:86 (1)~04:15:14 (8) -
04:15:61 (1) -
04:19:36 (1) -

easy: (based on the past errors above, you should know what is wrong with easy)
im not mentioning anymore other wrong stuffs in easy that appeared in normal/hard/insane, ok?
00:48:89 (2) -
02:23:11 (1) -
02:26:39 (3) -
02:37:87 (1) - move 1/4 beat forward
03:00:37 (3) - move 1/4 beat forward
03:02:25 (1) -
03:38:11 (1) - move 1 and 2 1/4 beat forward
03:45:14 (5) - move 1/4 beat forward
03:59:67 (3) -
04:04:48 (1) - end this at 04:11:276
.. and the last spinner

did you copy paste? because it looks like it. learn to hate copy pasting.. i hope you didnt copy paste.
a copy-pasted section/combo with a mistake will just make mods take more time to mod a map.

i can be really nazi about modding this but i dont want to spend 1++ hours typing, because i already spent an hour of it.
so i just leave the not so obvious ones as is.

P.S. not really one hour, more like almost two hours. havent even included the minor ones.
please triple/quadruple check your map before uploading.

If I were BAT, this would be bubbled.
are you stupid? or an idiot? or both? you have no place in the beatmap moderation team. you fail already.
Topic Starter
Nya_old
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James
sorry i was just pissed off last night about something. and at the same time im checking out your map.

basically those blanks are just the same errors/mistakes similar to the ones i mentioned already.

checking it again right now...

EDIT:
no i am not checking it again, i'll just attach the osu files later ;)
its faster that way.

EDIT2:
here goes~

P.S. please remove some of the whistles/claps on all difficulties, i think it is overused...
and i moved/adjusted some of the notes and sliders..

Download: IOSYS - Alice Dere (Nya) [Easy].osu

Download: IOSYS - Alice Dere (Nya) [Hard].osu

Download: IOSYS - Alice Dere (Nya) [Insane].osu

Download: IOSYS - Alice Dere (Nya) [Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Ah, doesn't matter, everybody can be angry sometimes <.<;
Thank you, I'll remove claps&whistles in some parts and reupload.

EDIT: submitted. :D
James
all good to me~

i'll let other mods to check out those acceptable flaws (for me)

and yeah, just take a look at those spinners/sliders i fixed, all of them are not placed at the blue tick anymore.
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Thanks for bubbling. ^-^
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Bump. D:
James
yeh, D:
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Bump of the day.. :o
Topic Starter
Nya_old
I'll start a conversation with myself :o bump
James
hi there~ whats up~
Topic Starter
Nya_old
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James
me, waiting for this to get ranked.
or maybe even some mod will take a look at it. >:|

..and intentionally getting some mod xp~
Topic Starter
Nya_old
It's strangely same for me. D:
Mogsy

James wrote:

me, waiting for this to get ranked.
or maybe even some mod will take a look at it. >:|

..and intentionally getting some mod xp~
I'm actually looking at this. D:
I'll post the mod post when I can.
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Thanks for looking Mogsworth :D
I was startin' sleepin. :o
James
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Topic Starter
Nya_old
zzzbumpzz
Topic Starter
Nya_old
This day's bump.
Topic Starter
Nya_old
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machol30
lol James. I am so tempted to just delete posts. bye-bye, free mod xp~ :P

Length: 04:23 , Objects: 88
Woah, what?! o.O

/me takes a look.

Easy:
I don't like the spacing here. or the length.
00:28:86 (2) - closer to 1
02:37:77 (1) - shorten by 1/2 beat
04:12:92 (3) - closer to 4
04:14:80 (5) - closer to 4

Normal:
00:22:30 (9,10,1) - farther away from 8

Okay... I won't bother with Easy and Normal. You need to work on spacing...
Hard and Insane too. so confusing. Please distance snap.

bubble pop.
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Of course, you must delete posts, they aren't usefull at least xD;


And yes easy is easy. :D
James
easy are full of nothing iirc. she finished the whole song though.

im not lazy to check the whole thing you know, since i modded this thing for 2:30 hours (seriously)
1:30ish hours is for the two difficulties only
machol30
reread my other post. Spacing way too confusing. Use some distance snap, please.

edit: and make it shorter!
Topic Starter
Nya_old
I fixed these errors.
But there is a problem with the slider (02:37:77 (1)), and I can't fix it. :/
When you say "make it shorter", you mean only on all difficulty, or just on easy/normal? :?
And you mean I must remove all circles/.. after a time, or edit mp3 file for make it shorter?
And sorry for my bad english <<;
Topic Starter
Nya_old
bump..
James
bubble again.. i guess..
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Thanks. Hope this time I'll get more advice or get ranked. :/
ThePassingShadow
Bump...

If no one looks at this soon, I'll bother m980.
m980
You called??

Easy
00:19:49 (4) - Move this closer to 3.
00:22:77 (5) - Move this closer to 1 (Next Combo)
01:46:67 (2) - Move this down abit more.
02:37:77 (1) - Why is this slider end snapped onto an 1/8 beat? I don't know about this.. But it's probably fine..

Normal
00:48:55 (7,8,1,2) - Put these closer to eachother.
00:50:42 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
00:53:70 (2) - Down abit.
00:58:39 (5,6,7,8,9) - Fix Spacing. Move 5 further from 4, and fix spacing from there.
01:25:11 (3,4,5,6) - Put 3-5 closer to eachother and move 6 so that it is above 5 like it is now.
01:46:67 (3,4,5,6) - Move closer to eachother.
01:52:30 (7,8) - I don't know about this, how about move it closer to 6.

O.O 30 second break.. Shorten??

Hard
00:24:88 (2) - Move up abit.
00:26:05 (7,8) - Move away from 6.
00:28:63 (2) - Move to the right.
01:08:00 (1) - Move the end point so it's not stacked onto the starting point.
01:54:17 (5) - Move this further away from 4.
02:53:00 (1) - Move the end point so it's not half-stacked onto the starting point.
03:04:49 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move these closer to eachother.
04:15:50 (1) - Move the end point so it's not half-stacked onto the starting point.

Insane
01:08:00 (1) - Move the end point so it's not half-stacked onto the starting point.
01:30:50 (1) - Guh.. No.. Just no..
01:46:09 (3,4) - Closer together.
01:46:67 (1,2,3,4) - Closer together.
01:47:38 (1,2,3,4,5) - Closer together.
01:51:36 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:26:52 (1,2,3) - Move these closer together.
04:06:13 (8,9) - Move closer to 7.


{Pop}
Topic Starter
Nya_old
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Topic Starter
Nya_old
^
-SiN-
Nya, could you reduce the image file size? 1.17MB is a bit too much for downloading and this will lag the player with older computer.. ^^
convert to JPG please :)

Topic Starter
Nya_old
It's ok. ^^
Topic Starter
Nya_old
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Topic Starter
Nya_old
I'm waiting for more than 1 month...
Anybody wants to look at it? :o
Mogsy
Forgive me, but I will finish modding the other difficulties soon. For now, here's Insane.

Insane:
-00:15:740 (3, 4) - This stack is slightly off-center. Move it over to the left a tiny bit.
-00:17:966 (8, 9) - This stack is slightly off-center. Move it over to the left a tiny bit. I'm being an uberbitch, yes, but if everything else is perfectly straight, why not this? :P
-00:22:302 (1, 2, 3, 4) - These shouldn't be stacked. First off, this part should have the same spacing as 00:26:990 (1, 2, 3, 4). So, move 2 closer to 1 and 4 closer to 3, then separate 3 and 4 from those stacks so they're spaced evenly and it doesn't look...weird.
-00:45:740 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13) - I feel like these beats are spaced too closely together. They're spaced just as evenly as the beats at 00:26:990 (1, 2), but they're different timeline lengths. Plus, I think that this spacing is too easy for an Insane map. :P
-00:49:490 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13) - ^
-00:53:240 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13) - ^
-00:56:521 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) - I do have a few notes to make about this.
A) I like the spacing for these. Use this spacing for the parts I told you to fix at 00:45:740, 00:49:490, and 00:53:240.
B) Start this a bit closer to the end of the previous phrase. Please. That gap there is a tad too large.
C) 00:58:630 (1) - Remove the new combo colour
00:58:865 (2) - Start the new combo here
01:00:740 (10) - New combo mark here
01:00:974 (1) - Remove the new combo colour
-01:04:021 (4) - I feel like there should be a Clap hitsound there.
-01:04:490 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3) - Remember that spacing suggestion I made earlier? That applies here, too.
-01:05:896 (1), 01:06:833 (1) - Remove the new combo marks from these, since they're all in the same phrase. Sure, it'll make the heart pink, but a maroon-ish heart is fine, too.
-01:11:990 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2) - See the last two points I made for the information on what to fix, since it's exactly the same thing as before.
-01:19:490 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 1, 2) - Spacing and combo number fixing again, same as before.
-01:26:990 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ,6 , 7, 8, 9) - Spacing issue, same as before.
-01:45:740 (1, 2, 3, 4) - These need the same spacing as 00:26:990 (1, 2, 3, 4). It's much too large.
-01:46:677 (1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4 , 5) - Two things:
A) 01:47:497 (2, 3) - Highlight these on the timeline and nudge them to to the right in the 1/4 divisor.
B) Respace so it has the previously mentioned spacing.
C) 01:47:380 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark from this.
01:47:497 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
-01:48:552 (6) - New Combo mark.
-01:49:841 (3, 4) - Space this further away from 2.
-01:51:129 (1) - First off, remove the New Combo mark. Second, respace it so it's on the endpoint of the previous slider.
-01:51:365 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Straighten this out, it looks insanely sloppy.
-01:52:302 (1) - Okay, this is lame. You could mirror 01:51:365 (1, 2, 3, 4) here, and that'd be acceptable.
-01:54:177 (1) - This slider is spaced far too close to the end of the previous phrase. Respace it.
-01:55:155 (2, 3, 4, 5) - First off, new combo mark on 2. Second off, highlight this, and space it further from the endpoint of the previous slider.
-01:56:052 (1, 2, 1, 2) - First off, remove the new combo mark from the second 1. Second, space this further away from the previous phrase.
-01:56:990 (3) - New Combo mark here.
-01:56:990 (3, 4) - Straighten out these sliders.
-01:57:927 (5) - New Combo mark here.
-01:58:279 (7, 8) - First off, space it further away from the previous two beats, same spacing as before. Second, straighten this out, so it doesn't look messy. Then respace 9-13 to make them all in the same line they were in before. Hey, speaking of lines...
-01:58:865 (10) - [INTERRUPTION]New combo here.[/INTERRUPTION]
-01:59:216 (12, 13) - ...realign this so that it looks perfectly straight with the rest of the line.
-02:15:740 (this part) - Notes, notes, notes.
A) Individual combo numbers? No. Number this like the part before that was like this.
B) Respace this so it's like the way it was before. (I think the heart can still be done despite having to respace this)
C) Where are the beats on 02:31:911, 02:32:146, and 02:32:380?
D) 02:34:021 (1) - Remove the new combo mark, add a Clap.
-02:34:958 (1, 1, 1) - Remove these New Combo marks.
-02:38:005 (5) - New Combo mark goes here.
-02:44:333 (1, 2) - Respace this so that 1 is closer to the end of the last phrase or that 2 is a jump away (consistency is always needed). Also, remove the New Combo mark from 1.
-02:45:505 (3) - New Combo mark goes here. Also, clean this up so it looks straight, not like a random slider-doodle on a grid-notebook.
-02:52:302 (11) - Space this out further. Consistency, consistency, consistency.
-02:53:005 (12) - New Combo mark goes here.
-03:06:365 (1) - Straighten this out.
-03:08:005 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-03:08:240 (2) - New Combo mark goes here. Also, this is lame. Basically, for the length of this slider and 3, do the same thing you did with 03:04:490 (1, 2, 1, 2).
-03:10:115 (4) - New Combo mark goes here.
-03:11:286 (9) - Shorten this so it's as long as the other sliders, and then make it repeat.
-03:40:115 (9, 10, 11, 12, 13) - Highlight this, and then move from 9 so that 8 and 9 are evenly spaced. New Combo mark on 9, as well.
-03:47:146 (1, 1) - Remove the New Combo marks from these.
-03:47:849 (1, 1, 1) - Remove the New Combo marks from these.
-03:49:021 (4) - New Combo mark here.
-03:49:021 (4, 5, 6, 7, 8, onward) - The old spacing was fine, fix this.
-03:50:139-03:54:279 - Renumber this. Please. All 1s is just...painful. And with the spacing unchanged, I can't differentiate when it gets to the 1/4 stuff and it just sucks. Also, do not start the 1/4 stuff until 03:53:240 and don't end it until 03:54:997.
-04:12:458 (3, 4, 5, 6, 7) - The same spacing issue we've had this entire map. Change it, please.
-04:14:333 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-04:16:443 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Remove the New Combo mark from 1, then stack them at the end of the previous slider's endpoint. If it looks bad while testing the map, set the Stack Leniency to Never Stack or something close to that.

Anyways, so far, you've got quite a bit to fix. Please fix it. Because of this, a star has fallen.
Zatoichi
Holy penis, Mogsworth.
Topic Starter
Nya_old
Wow.
I'll take my time tommorow to fix these.
Thanks a lot Mogsworth ^^
Wojjan
I think Easy's WAY too long. Most Easy's get cut off somewhere. I'd recommend deleting all beats after 02:00:271 , the song pretty much loops twice and it gets really dull after 2 mins.
Tadaki_Laka
Nice song :P
kratoskitten
Great song and mapping ^_^. There's still alot to do though, don't be discouraged. When it's finished, i'm sure it'll be pretty darn good >.<
Natsuuki_
Nice song, i want it to be ranked soon D:

In the time i'll give a star, i haven't saw any error atm
Azphyxia
yes i really hope it gets approved :D
Saruwatari-taiki
cool i love this song itll be cool if it gets ranked
NXTKitKat
Bump :v rank this please
LigerZero

NXTKitKat wrote:

Bump :v rank this please
pls



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