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Thank you !HabiHolic wrote:
wow. gratz your BNG! here my gift! Ranked!
gratz!
credit me for the umbrella plz lol
edit: caolanzzhboy
credit me for the umbrella plz lol
edit: caolanzzhboy
Why OD6 on Umbrellla? Isn't this like, a bit too low?
For fitting his style.You don't understand that.
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one fist hit boomyf_bmp wrote:
For fitting his style.You don't understand that.
Lovely, Gratz
You are rightyf_bmp wrote:
For fitting his style.You don't understand that.
终于rank了，😳😳😳
I am stunned by the weight of your explanation. Now I can see why it is setup like that. I feel superly illuminated.yf_bmp wrote:
For fitting his style.You don't understand that.
Okay, jokes aside. What's that. "You don't understand that"? Excuse me, but this was a legitimate question. If you are unable to answer in a proper fashion, please leave this forum - or at least do not reply.
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you are right, every point of view should has a clear explanationLoctav wrote:
I am stunned by the weight of your explanation. Now I can see why it is setup like that. I feel superly illuminated.yf_bmp wrote:
For fitting his style.You don't understand that.
Okay, jokes aside. What's that. "You don't understand that"? Excuse me, but this was a legitimate question. If you are unable to answer in a proper fashion, please leave this forum - or at least do not reply.
but
however
he just want to avoid anything could cause this map be dqed
so i hope you can forgive him
thank you :3
I would say sorry for your misunderstanding
My English isn't that good and sometimes I can't express my true feeling. Sometimes I may use a wrong tone.
The truth is I am just joking.
Maybe I should say it in detail "I think it is xxxxxx and your idea isn't the same as me." but not "you xxx". (after my deeply thinking
sorry to avishay
My English isn't that good and sometimes I can't express my true feeling. Sometimes I may use a wrong tone.
The truth is I am just joking.
Maybe I should say it in detail "I think it is xxxxxx and your idea isn't the same as me." but not "you xxx". (after my deeply thinking
sorry to avishay
it isn't some kind of jokes? od6 for easy passing makes sense, maybe od7 or od8 looks better, but that's just 6ms-12ms 300 area, but it makes you get less pp lol
I don't think it is related to mapper's style so yf's words is not considered property, well i hope it won't happen again in the future
I don't think it is related to mapper's style so yf's words is not considered property, well i hope it won't happen again in the future
in Umbrella diff
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what's wrong? o.oscanter wrote:
unnecesarry inhireted point
does it matter?
does it matter?
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Maybe noFlobuFlobs wrote:
unnecesarry inhireted point
does it matter?
Nothing is wrong with this
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xxdeathx wrote:
Nothing is wrong with this
Redundant inherited points should be removed.
Ok, I should've been more clear: they should be removed but aren't unrankable unless you take the part in parentheses from the (possibly outdated) ranking criteria literally:
An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed)
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anything can be unrankable, it's better to waiting their further discussion.xxdeathx wrote:
Ok, I should've been more clear: they should be removed but aren't unrankable
So there's no real explanation for the reason OD is 6? If the map will get disqualified, would you like to change it?ZZHBOY wrote:
you are right, every point of view should has a clear explanation
but
however
he just want to avoid anything could cause this map be dqed
so i hope you can forgive him
thank you :3
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NO at all. this map has many complicated but fun rhythm, od 6 can make player plays better and have more interesting on this map.Avishay wrote:
So there's no real explanation for the reason OD is 6? If the map will get disqualified, would you like to change it?ZZHBOY wrote:
you are right, every point of view should has a clear explanation
but
however
he just want to avoid anything could cause this map be dqed
so i hope you can forgive him
thank you :3
if I set od to 7, it will be harder for many player who can't hit accurately.
I know you are a pro player and maybe you wanna to earn more pp from this map, however please understand my thought who created this map.
i don't think anything wrong with od 6 or you can give me a clear explanation.
I am not talking about my skill-level or how much pp this will give, but this should be an Extra difficulty, and I think OD6 on this diff is just like the low HP value on Airman, which is a bit overdoing it, but that's just my opinion, well good luck.ZZHBOY wrote:
NO at all. this map has many complicated but fun rhythm, od 6 can make player plays better and have more interesting on this map.Avishay wrote:
So there's no real explanation for the reason OD is 6? If the map will get disqualified, would you like to change it?
if I set od to 7, it will be harder for many player who can't hit accurately.
I know you are a pro player and maybe you wanna to earn more pp from this map, however please understand my thought who created this map.
i don't think anything wrong with od 6 or you can give me a clear explanation.
Any diffs should be depended on the playing feeling but not only on its difficulty. We only make the settings of diffs which can make players most comfortable. We do not make hard maps just for hard. AND we have considered this setting and done it deliberatly, but not our carelessness.
Let us analyze the diff itself carefully. Pls see its jumps style. You can see the jumps nearly have no obvious connection(except flow) and always have huge jumps. Depending on our experience, such jumping style doesn't fit such high OD.(If you do a comfortable map but not a map just to stumped players.)
BTW, you are not QAT, but why you talk about dq in this thread and even depend on a rankable setting? Pls do not judge a map by your own feeling. Try to understand the mapper's thought pls.
If I annoy you, see me as baka.
Let us analyze the diff itself carefully. Pls see its jumps style. You can see the jumps nearly have no obvious connection(except flow) and always have huge jumps. Depending on our experience, such jumping style doesn't fit such high OD.(If you do a comfortable map but not a map just to stumped players.)
BTW, you are not QAT, but why you talk about dq in this thread and even depend on a rankable setting? Pls do not judge a map by your own feeling. Try to understand the mapper's thought pls.
If I annoy you, see me as baka.
Just as an added thought to this conversation, a lower OD can cause instances of note-locking which is probably even more uncomfortable than just setting it to a higher OD. A fast-paced, jumpy map should probably receive a higher OD, while very difficult technical maps should have a lower one(ehh still kind of stretching it here). Granted, I haven't looked at the mapset yet but I'm just dropping my thoughts on the matter before I do.
Can't see the problem, he wants to use OD6 so let him?
ok. opposite view
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拉丝特这段说得漂亮 我已经无言以对了yf_bmp wrote:
ok. opposite view
Use OD 6,5, bam compromise
Hi, ZZHBOY. I have to disqualify due to the wrong romanised artist and inaudible section.
- The artist must be "otetsu feat.Megurine Luka". That space is not necessary between "feat." and "Megurine" that according the official.
from official website : http://otetsu.jp/ - 01:50:576 - in Awaken's Insane
Do not use silent volumes on objects, You must consider turning up over 20%
Additional Modding :
[General]- About OD issues : 3/4/5/5/7/8/6
I agreed with Lust. As you can see the OD rate of all diffs, it's too bad for spread. The umbrella diff is hardest in this mapset. Well, it's not unrankable issues ... This is now your responsibility.
- HP Drain Rate -1. Because you made long blacks at this part. 00:57:523 (1,1,1) - ,02:13:313 (1,1,1) -
- 02:00:523 (1) - I feel it's better to use a clap or something to the head of the slider since it follows nothing.
- 02:18:050 (1,2) - You don't have to take the 1/2 rhythm at here imo. Please try this one
- 03:43:629 (2,1) - hmm, The stack has 1/1 rhythm only here. But you used stacks on different rhythm at here : 03:34:470 (2,1) - ,03:54:364 (3,1) - . So you should consider remaking this part. It prevents the player from misreading. Then, you can be neglected about this part : 02:13:313 (1,1,1) -
If you didn't change slider speed, Please delete green section on red line.scanter wrote:
in Umbrella diff - About OD issues : 3/4/5/5/7/8/6
This is pretty much what I tried to say.alacat wrote:
- About OD issues : 3/4/5/5/7/8/6
I agreed with Lust. As you can see the OD rate of all diffs, it's too bad for spread. The umbrella diff is hardest in this mapset. Well, it's not unrankable issues ... This is now your responsibility.
I talked about disqualification not because of the OD, but because the issue scanter found and I took the chance to mention it.
Eitherway gl in getting it re-ranked.
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Also fuck awaken .-.CDFA wrote:
Fuck asian metadata jesus fucking christ I'm going to jump in front of a bulldozer
Working on alacat's mod, will reply it later
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Lust wrote:
Just as an added thought to this conversation, a lower OD can cause instances of note-locking which is probably even more uncomfortable than just setting it to a higher OD. A fast-paced, jumpy map should probably receive a higher OD, while very difficult technical maps should have a lower one(ehh still kind of stretching it here). Granted, I haven't looked at the mapset yet but I'm just dropping my thoughts on the matter before I do.
i begin to consider if i should change this due to note lock.Avishay wrote:
This is pretty much what I tried to say.alacat wrote:
- About OD issues : 3/4/5/5/7/8/6
I agreed with Lust. As you can see the OD rate of all diffs, it's too bad for spread. The umbrella diff is hardest in this mapset. Well, it's not unrankable issues ... This is now your responsibility.
I talked about disqualification not because of the OD, but because the issue scanter found and I took the chance to mention it.
Eitherway gl in getting it re-ranked.
thanks you guy's suggestion especially lust's persuasive post
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all fixed, thx for modalacat wrote:
Hi, ZZHBOY. I have to disqualify due to the wrong romanised artist and inaudible section.
- The artist must be "otetsu feat.Megurine Luka". That space is not necessary between "feat." and "Megurine" that according the official.
from official website : http://otetsu.jp/- 01:50:576 - in Awaken's Insane
Do not use silent volumes on objects, You must consider turning up over 20%
Additional Modding :
[General][Easy]
- About OD issues : 3/4/5/5/7/8/6
I agreed with Lust. As you can see the OD rate of all diffs, it's too bad for spread. The umbrella diff is hardest in this mapset. Well, it's not unrankable issues ... This is now your responsibility.
- HP Drain Rate -1. Because you made long blacks at this part. 00:57:523 (1,1,1) - ,02:13:313 (1,1,1) -
- 02:00:523 (1) - I feel it's better to use a clap or something to the head of the slider since it follows nothing.
- 02:18:050 (1,2) - You don't have to take the 1/2 rhythm at here imo. Please try this one
- 03:43:629 (2,1) - hmm, The stack has 1/1 rhythm only here. But you used stacks on different rhythm at here : 03:34:470 (2,1) - ,03:54:364 (3,1) - . So you should consider remaking this part. It prevents the player from misreading. Then, you can be neglected about this part : 02:13:313 (1,1,1) -
If you didn't change slider speed, Please delete green section on red line.scanter wrote:
in Umbrella diff
sorry to all who paid time to play this map
also apologize to BNs gave icon for my careless checking
going to requalified .-.
Talked with mapper, changed some general settings:
HP: 2/4.5/5/5/7/5/5 -> 2/4.5/5/5/5.5/6/6
OD: 3/4/5/5/7/8/6 -> 3/4/5/6/7/8/7
Rebubbled!
HP: 2/4.5/5/5/7/5/5 -> 2/4.5/5/5/5.5/6/6
OD: 3/4/5/5/7/8/6 -> 3/4/5/6/7/8/7
Rebubbled!
Neither the OD nor the extra timing section was under Reasons for Disqualification. The map was disqualified for incorrect artist and inaudible hitsound volume.Avishay wrote:
I talked about disqualification not because of the OD, but because the issue scanter found and I took the chance to mention it.
Sorry >_>
ReQualified
ReQualified
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i should say sorry instead of you x.xHabiHolic wrote:
Sorry >_>
ReQualified
any way thank you habi .-.
I still think the OD could've been much higher, but whatever <.<
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>.>Asphyxia wrote:
I still think the OD could've been much higher, but whatever <.<
Ew, why would you have such low OD against a high AR? 8-9 would be more fitting.
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OD>7 would be hard to play for many player maybe?Garven wrote:
Ew, why would you have such low OD against a high AR? 8-9 would be more fitting.
What, i dont really care which OD you choose (its your choice) but this argument is wrong, those people who plays these kind of difficulties can play easiely OD>7 lolZZHBOY wrote:
OD>7 would be hard to play for many player maybe?Garven wrote:
Ew, why would you have such low OD against a high AR? 8-9 would be more fitting.
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First, thank you for your opinion. But I have to write some addition words, not for against with you.FlobuFlobs wrote:
What, i dont really care which OD you choose (its your choice) but this argument is wrong, those people who plays these kind of difficulties can play easiely OD>7 lolZZHBOY wrote:
OD>7 would be hard to play for many player maybe?
How OD work? Known as "OD" in Edit's song selection but as "Accuracy" on Beatmap Listing page. Why OD can be judge by mapper himself? I think it's for mapper to select a value with his own thought just between a reasonable OD interval which won't make any trouble caused players can't play the map with any mode.
I changed OD from 6 to 7 mainly for:
- better spread for this set
- avoid note lock caused by too low OD, from lust's post
- I personal hate high OD
- OD7 is a value in reasonable OD interval
At last, some words to anyone who about to write anything about this issue later
Three possible situation:
1. Anyone still write any useless word such as change od plz, I will ignore them.
2. Anyone caused a dq (I don't think this map can be dqed just due to this OD value), I will fix any unrank issue and won't do any change on OD, then requalified this map Easily and slap you all who contributed to this result instead of Onijam and HabiHoli. It won't hurt anything to me.
3. However, you can create a new rule in Ranking Criteria and defined clearly OD7 can't used in Extra diff with 190 bpm before this map get ranked. If so, I will find a QAT to dq this on my own and admit it, tell the rule to any other mapper who against this.
edit: willing to hear any useful reply :3
Great job
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一群纸张跟风党 没救了
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thank you ....Venzire wrote:
Very nice map set, great song.
hi zizi ily