op makes a legitimate point
it's just unfortunate that those people who mindlessly shit on him are actually the people who need to consider his advice the most
Anyway, it's hard to pinpoint what exactly 'talent' is, but there does seem to be a correlation of some players improving at a much slower rate than others, whether it be due to work ethic, mindset, physical attributes, your bringing up as a child, or any other factors - which are all contributors to 'talent' or 'natural ability' in this game.
Neverthless, in the end you need hard work to be good at anything in life. i.e don't think talent is the determining factor to success. That bring me to the one point I don't agree on with OP:
Some people (I hate to fire shots again but too bad) can't even begin to comprehend how much time a 'pro' player has spent trying to improve himself at this game. I might attribute this to ignorance. Next time you play, try playing the hardest maps you can play, maybe even with NF, trying to hit every single note the WHOLE MAP through, even if your arm is burning and your eyes are tired, and then repeat that for 5 hours. This is the work ethic that successful people have and if you can't match that, don't make excuses about talent because it's not the reason you're not improving.
On a side note: (off-topic rant xd)
I hope people realise that the reason 'pro' players constantly say 'play more' is because they are entitled to; they play they asses off every day to improve at the game and then they go onto G&R forums and see people looking for the 'quick fix' to improve it's really just funny. You can't just play 'for fun' and get better. It's fkn hard work and the way people say 'play more' is subtly mocking those who are naive and make excuses for not improving because in reality, they're just lazy. (considering they legitimately want to improve)
there's like a good quote i wanna finish on: "you can dedicate your body and soul to something, but it's no use if you're just more lazy than the person next to you"
tl;dr talent isn't the determining factor to success. It exists but isn't the reason why you're not improving and can't be 'pro' - that's because you don't work hard enough and hence "play more"
it's just unfortunate that those people who mindlessly shit on him are actually the people who need to consider his advice the most
Anyway, it's hard to pinpoint what exactly 'talent' is, but there does seem to be a correlation of some players improving at a much slower rate than others, whether it be due to work ethic, mindset, physical attributes, your bringing up as a child, or any other factors - which are all contributors to 'talent' or 'natural ability' in this game.
Neverthless, in the end you need hard work to be good at anything in life. i.e don't think talent is the determining factor to success. That bring me to the one point I don't agree on with OP:
I'd argue work ethic is definitely more important than natural talent. People who played for only 2-3 years and reached the top- check how much they played every day, probably 5-6 hours or even more, with over 5000 playcount a month. The thing that defines these 'pro' osu players is that they constantly try to improve. There's no secret other than they played hours on end, day after day, year after year and constantly pushed themselves, looked for new ways to improve, changed their settings, thought about the game in their spare time, read threads, stayed healthy, kept playing and kept playing the game.Railey2 wrote:
There is a reason why people always say "play more", right? For sure you can become a pro if you really follow their advice. Well... no.
You are making a costly mistake. Improvement at osu is not only about work, and people who claim that they made it to the top only as a result of their hard work, are lying.
Some people (I hate to fire shots again but too bad) can't even begin to comprehend how much time a 'pro' player has spent trying to improve himself at this game. I might attribute this to ignorance. Next time you play, try playing the hardest maps you can play, maybe even with NF, trying to hit every single note the WHOLE MAP through, even if your arm is burning and your eyes are tired, and then repeat that for 5 hours. This is the work ethic that successful people have and if you can't match that, don't make excuses about talent because it's not the reason you're not improving.
On a side note: (off-topic rant xd)
I hope people realise that the reason 'pro' players constantly say 'play more' is because they are entitled to; they play they asses off every day to improve at the game and then they go onto G&R forums and see people looking for the 'quick fix' to improve it's really just funny. You can't just play 'for fun' and get better. It's fkn hard work and the way people say 'play more' is subtly mocking those who are naive and make excuses for not improving because in reality, they're just lazy. (considering they legitimately want to improve)
there's like a good quote i wanna finish on: "you can dedicate your body and soul to something, but it's no use if you're just more lazy than the person next to you"
tl;dr talent isn't the determining factor to success. It exists but isn't the reason why you're not improving and can't be 'pro' - that's because you don't work hard enough and hence "play more"