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Akiyama Uni - Touhou Hisouten

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Monstrata
Freesong's Rhapsody

00:15:453 (1) - Why a pause here? You can do a slider instead for the held note. The pause really breaks flow because you force the player to move from here to the next object twice as slow as usual.
00:15:953 (1,1,2,1) - This is a lot better because the 1/1 gap doesn't influence spacing (its stacked vs same visual distance but twice the time)
00:33:078 (2,1) - This should really be a 1/2 slider xP 1 isn't in audible so i dont think you should just put a circle there like all the other drums.

I liked the symmetry you used near the end. Wish you used it more often xD.

Saika

00:23:328 (2,3) - that slider-end poking out looks kinda bad xP.
00:30:703 (3,4,1) - Linear flow really sucks especially when bpm gets higher xP Can you do something else here?
00:51:453 (3,4) - Quite weird having two different shapes instead of a symmetrical pattern.
01:04:703 (4,5,1) - Stacks are okay, But if you want to emphasize the drums, You can try spacing them out a bit
01:16:015 (1) - Spinner is really random and unnecessary imo. You can use sliders instead i think xP

Lunatic

00:10:453 (4) - REmove the repeat and add a circle or something tbh. 00:10:703 - is a really strong note.
00:16:953 (1,3) - Wish you wouldn't overlap like this. It's quite hard to see due to how much of the slider-head is being overlapped. Aplies to 00:48:953 (1,2,3,4) - too
00:23:953 (1,2) - Consider an arrangement thats more even?
00:25:703 (4,2) - Overlap doesnt seem necessary since these two sliders arent really connected.
00:31:828 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is really too confusing to read cuz of all the overlaps/ Can you do an arrangement thats easier to predict?
00:32:953 (1,2,3,4) - This 1/4 slider spam rhythm just doesn't reflect the song at all here. Listen to the drums, theres a really specific rhythm xp
00:50:953 (1) - Is this slider shape really necessary xP. It just looks really weird for me, like Alien weird.
00:55:953 (1,2,3) - Same, I dont think these slider shapes are that appropriate when you've been using flat/sligtly curved sliders so far. They are really different in terms of design.

Lily Bread

00:12:328 (2,3) - Stack properly.
00:18:953 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think this rhythm is appropriate.
00:23:953 (1,2,3,4) - Same here, 00:24:703 - should be clickable imo.
00:32:953 (1,2,3,1) - I wish you'd follow the drum rhythm better here. this section doesn't call for 1/4 slider spam like that. its more complex
00:43:953 (1,2) - Feels really empty. You can use 1/4 sliders here maybe.
00:55:453 (3,4,1) - ^
00:59:453 (3,1,2,3) - ^

[]

Other difficulties look ready. I think the four mentioned above could use like 2-3 more mods. Lily Bread's diff, I felt some rhythms were a bit unintuitive and could be further improved. Generally, the set is pretty good, and could just use a bit more polishing. I guess you can call me back after you've got the mods!
Lily Bread
Lily Bread

00:12:328 (2,3) - Stack properly.
00:18:953 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think this rhythm is appropriate.
00:23:953 (1,2,3,4) - Same here, 00:24:703 - should be clickable imo.
00:32:953 (1,2,3,1) - I wish you'd follow the drum rhythm better here. this section doesn't call for 1/4 slider spam like that. its more complex
00:43:953 (1,2) - Feels really empty. You can use 1/4 sliders here maybe.
00:55:453 (3,4,1) - ^
00:59:453 (3,1,2,3) - ^
/*
i don't think your rhythm can express the music, you just express the drum.
the major sound should be violin, so i choose to map violin instead of drum.
and for not too hard, i ignored some drums.
and kiai should be harder than other part, so i put some drum at slider's end to control the difficulty of other part.
*/
Beomsan
hey, how are you doing man
M4M from my queue
I'm happy If you guys can understand my English.

that sb

I can't find important issue in this map. I'll just throw my suggestions.

[Frey's Insane]
  1. 00:31:703 (4) - I recommend reunification distance with other sliders. there is no have strong sound and no need to be emphasized imo.
[Lunatic]
  1. 00:12:953 (1,2,3) - I felt awkward in this flow. If you want to modify as little as possible, I recommend http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5846024 this and 00:13:453 (8,9,10,11) - replace these notes. I think it'll be better than before.
  2. 00:17:953 (1) - red dot slider is not fit at all in my thought. 00:18:328 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - plz consider these sliders
  3. 00:20:953 (1) - ^ I can't feel anything about this sliders mean
  4. 01:09:703 (2) - It's 1/2 rhythm. need more big distance imo.
[Saika's Lunatic]
  1. 00:33:078 (2) - 00:33:453 (1,2) - ok. I know about your creative thinking. but I think It's hard to read. since 00:32:953 (1,2) - 00:33:453 (1,2) - these sliders diffrent distance. I recommend 0.75x like 00:32:703 (3,4,5,6) - this
  2. 01:12:703 (3) - I felt strong here. more increase distance?
I have checked all maps. but this mapset is good so yeah.
sorry for poor mod. but hope it helps.
It's M4M but It will be sorry. my mod sucks lol. you can denied my mod req if you don't like this mod. (PM me~)
gl :)
Iolite

Monstrata wrote:

Saika

00:23:328 (2,3) - that slider-end poking out looks kinda bad xP. fixed
00:30:703 (3,4,1) - Linear flow really sucks especially when bpm gets higher xP Can you do something else here? The flow is OK imo
00:51:453 (3,4) - Quite weird having two different shapes instead of a symmetrical pattern. fixed
01:04:703 (4,5,1) - Stacks are okay, But if you want to emphasize the drums, You can try spacing them out a bit fixed
01:16:015 (1) - Spinner is really random and unnecessary imo. You can use sliders instead i think xP I think a spinner is the best way to fit the song XD

Beomsan wrote:

[Saika's Lunatic]
  1. 00:33:078 (2) - 00:33:453 (1,2) - ok. I know about your creative thinking. but I think It's hard to read. since 00:32:953 (1,2) - 00:33:453 (1,2) - these sliders diffrent distance. I recommend 0.75x like 00:32:703 (3,4,5,6) - this fixed
  2. 01:12:703 (3) - I felt strong here. more increase distance? I think it's just,for here's no strong drum.
Thx for modding~ :)
Saika's Lunatic
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Topic Starter
sahuang

Monstrata wrote:

Lunatic

00:10:453 (4) - REmove the repeat and add a circle or something tbh. 00:10:703 - is a really strong note.
>>i tried another rhythm here,which is to swap 00:09:953 (1,2) - and add a note 00:10:703 - so it's symmetrical, and plays fine imo
>>tried another way according to mods
00:16:953 (1,3) - Wish you wouldn't overlap like this. It's quite hard to see due to how much of the slider-head is being overlapped. Aplies to 00:48:953 (1,2,3,4) - too
>>moved 00:16:578 (1) - upward to make ds 00:16:328 (3,1,2) - clearer. also imo 00:16:953 (1,2,1,2) - the overlap is fine,now it's just slider head that will slightly overlap(reduced angle to 15 degrees) and added NC to improve readability.
00:23:953 (1,2) - Consider an arrangement thats more even?
>>i tried (ry
00:25:703 (4,2) - Overlap doesnt seem necessary since these two sliders arent really connected. rearranged
00:31:828 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is really too confusing to read cuz of all the overlaps/ Can you do an arrangement thats easier to predict? yes
00:32:953 (1,2,3,4) - This 1/4 slider spam rhythm just doesn't reflect the song at all here. Listen to the drums, theres a really specific rhythm xp
>>yep..i tried another way with stacks
00:50:953 (1) - Is this slider shape really necessary xP. It just looks really weird for me, like Alien weird.
>>hm, for this kind of slider i think it's fine,just a bit curved and i think a sharp turn at 00:51:203 - can represent downbeat to some extent. for gameplay it is quite interesting also :p
00:55:953 (1,2,3) - Same, I dont think these slider shapes are that appropriate when you've been using flat/sligtly curved sliders so far. They are really different in terms of design.
>>it's a bit too much here i agree, so changed. i also replace many overlap stuff with stacks,i guess looks better now :p

[]

Other difficulties look ready. I think the four mentioned above could use like 2-3 more mods. Lily Bread's diff, I felt some rhythms were a bit unintuitive and could be further improved. Generally, the set is pretty good, and could just use a bit more polishing. I guess you can call me back after you've got the mods!
Thanks lol i will do that

Beomsan wrote:

[Lunatic]
  1. 00:12:953 (1,2,3) - I felt awkward in this flow. If you want to modify as little as possible, I recommend http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5846024 this and 00:13:453 (8,9,10,11) - replace these notes. I think it'll be better than before. the symmetrical stuff is cool so i wanna keep even tho the flow is bit hard
  2. 00:17:953 (1) - red dot slider is not fit at all in my thought. 00:18:328 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - plz consider these sliders yeah,rearranged
  3. 00:20:953 (1) - ^ I can't feel anything about this sliders mean k
  4. 01:09:703 (2) - It's 1/2 rhythm. need more big distance imo.1.0x is enough,i need that hexagon :)
I have checked all maps. but this mapset is good so yeah.
sorry for poor mod. but hope it helps.
It's M4M but It will be sorry. my mod sucks lol. you can denied my mod req if you don't like this mod. (PM me~)
gl :)
Thanks! :)
Frey

Beomsan wrote:

[Frey's Insane]
  1. 00:31:703 (4) - I recommend reunification distance with other sliders. there is no have strong sound and no need to be emphasized imo. it's fine I guess, at least it won't hurt the game-play
)
Thanks for your mod!
Lasse
[freesongs]
00:23:953 (1) - i can see the intention for your stack on 00:23:703 (5) - but the spacing just seems too low here compared to surrounding patterns if you consider how strong this is, I'd personally ctrl-g 00:23:953 (1) - so 00:22:953 (1,3,1) - make a nice pattern
00:24:203 (2,3) - adding to ^ so weird with how much stronger the ends are ; / http://i.imgur.com/OfzDFqO.jpg makes way more sense. it's basically same as 00:26:953 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:25:453 (3,4) - how about ctrlg, so you get a flow break on 00:25:453 (3) - to emphasize new instrument?
00:33:203 (1,2,1,2) - why nc spam? musical pattern is still similar to before, just more intense and I don't think it's needed for reading
00:33:953 - for this whole part I think you could tone down nc usage a bit, there are so many single object combos and drain just gets weird
00:44:703 (1,2,1,2) - http://i.imgur.com/IR5za2a.jpg movement gets so awkward to play here, but I can'T really give a good alternative without changing some other patterns ; /
00:47:703 (1,2,3,4,1) - can you not space 1/8 streams just as 1/6 ones a bit earlier? so easy to mistake for 1/6
01:10:203 (3) - why is this cymbal thing suddenly stacked? doesnt match your other patterning and won't really work for emphasis. how about something like http://i.imgur.com/3HlX0wQ.jpg ?

[saika]
00:02:330 (1,2,3) - I don't really see why you would give an insignificant beat like 2 so much more spacing than the way more important 3 ??
00:05:469 (2) - moevement is really awkward and rough for such a calm part http://i.imgur.com/xgqimWO.jpg with how 00:03:725 (1,2,1) - vuilds up a fluid circular motion and then 00:05:469 (2) - does this weird thing
00:19:828 (6,2) - check this with stacking enabled .. // 00:52:703 (4,2) -
00:27:578 (5,6,1) - so painful to play because those rather obtuse angles dont work well with all the momentum changes http://i.imgur.com/EnsN9Mp.jpg
00:29:828 (4,1) - what is this spacing? looks like you had an overmapped 1/8 between them and deleted it lol

[lunatic]
00:10:703 (5,6,1) - why is this stacked? jump/sapcing would work bette with your usual spacing and emphasis on 1
00:45:828 (6) - why does this get the most spacing when 00:45:703 (5,1) - are both so much more important? how about something similar to http://i.imgur.com/wDqcvPb.jpg ?
00:47:828 (6) - could make this a kickslider since 1/8 is really audible
second kiai is basically copy pasted to same things there
01:04:890 - this is so audible, could really be mapped. won't even make the map harder since it's between two sliders

[lilybread]
diff just feels a bit too simplified for what the song offers.. but doesn't look like you're willing to change that so gg

gl
-Nanaka-
as lily requested

Lily Bread's Hyper

  1. 00:10:328 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - こういう音取り多いけどこれ00:10:328 - から伸ばして00:10:703 - クリックさせた方がフルートfollowできていいと思うし全部rhythm逆でよくない?
  2. 00:14:328 (2,3) - ^
  3. 00:15:828 (4) - このDiffはまだ1/8Snapいらないと思う
    00:15:828 - circle置いて00:15:953 - 1/2置いた方がいいかな、この場合00:16:703 (3) - これcircleに変えてブレイクつくると良さそう
  4. 00:18:328 (2,3) - 00:20:328 (2,3) - 00:26:328 (2,3) - 00:28:328 (2,3) - 00:32:328 (2,3) - これも逆でいいかな
  5. 00:19:828 (4) - circle置くような音でもないし手前のslider伸ばしてよさそう
    00:21:578 (3) - 00:22:328 (2) - 00:24:578 (3) - 00:27:578 (3) - 00:29:578 (3) - 00:31:578 (3) - 上修正した場合ここもかな
  6. 00:32:828 (4) - circleに変更、Narcissuが120でマッピングしてるから複雑な音取りいらないかな
  7. 00:33:703 (1) - これ減速いる?音的には大きくなってるし00:32:953 (1,2,3,1) - で0.1ずつ加速とかなら分かるけどそうじゃないならSV変化いらないと思う
  8. 00:36:453 (3) - 同じ、Kiaiタイムだし音空けずにこんなんで良さそう
  9. 00:39:953 (1) - 1/4sliderに変更
  10. 00:43:953 (1,2,3) - 00:35:953 (1,2,3) - と同じ
  11. 00:47:703 (4,5) - も素直において良さそう
    サビ繰り替えしだから同じようなとこは省きます
  12. 00:48:953 (1) - これ角度こんくらいのが好き
  13. 00:57:203 (2,3) - ちなみにこれ入れ替えても流れいい感じなる
  14. 00:57:953 (1) - これ流れ強引だからblanketよりも終点00:56:828 (6) - にスタックくらいにしとかない?
  15. 01:02:328 (2,3,2,3) - フルート目立ってるから逆のがあってる
  16. 01:04:890 - ここ音ある?01:04:828 - circle 01:04:953 - sliderでよさげ
  17. 01:06:328 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - からまたrhythm逆でいいと思う
  18. 01:09:953 (1) - から音変わるわけだしsliderにして差別化したほうが良いと思う、4つのが00:48:953 (1,2,3,4) - こういうパターン置きしやすいだろうし
  19. 01:18:328 - circleか01:18:078 (1) - reverse欲しい
分かんないとこあったらまたメッセください
Lily Bread

-Nanaka- wrote:

as lily requested

Lily Bread's Hyper

  1. 00:10:328 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - こういう音取り多いけどこれ00:10:328 - から伸ばして00:10:703 - クリックさせた方がフルートfollowできていいと思うし全部rhythm逆でよくない?
  2. 00:14:328 (2,3) - ^
    /*
    - 00:10:453 - is strong, too.
    and it's too many to fix.. though it's a good advice.
    */
  3. 00:15:828 (4) - このDiffはまだ1/8Snapいらないと思う
    00:15:828 - circle置いて00:15:953 - 1/2置いた方がいいかな、この場合00:16:703 (3) - これcircleに変えてブレイクつくると良さそう
    //triple is ok, but i want to keep - 00:16:703 (3) - because - 00:16:828 - has a drum.
  4. 00:18:328 (2,3) - 00:20:328 (2,3) - 00:26:328 (2,3) - 00:28:328 (2,3) - 00:32:328 (2,3) - これも逆でいいかな
    //same as above.
  5. 00:19:828 (4) - circle置くような音でもないし手前のslider伸ばしてよさそう
    00:21:578 (3) - 00:22:328 (2) - 00:24:578 (3) - 00:27:578 (3) - 00:29:578 (3) - 00:31:578 (3) - 上修正した場合ここもかな
    // - 00:22:578 (3) - has a violin and - 00:24:828 (4) - has a drum so keep, others changed
  6. 00:32:828 (4) - circleに変更、Narcissuが120でマッピングしてるから複雑な音取りいらないかな
    //ok
  7. 00:33:703 (1) - これ減速いる?音的には大きくなってるし00:32:953 (1,2,3,1) - で0.1ずつ加速とかなら分かるけどそうじゃないならSV変化いらないと思う
    // made it 1.0 sv
  8. 00:36:453 (3) - 同じ、Kiaiタイムだし音空けずにこんなんで良さそう
    // i map violin here. the violin is the strongest and most impressive music imo.
  9. 00:39:953 (1) - 1/4sliderに変更
    // ok
  10. 00:43:953 (1,2,3) - 00:35:953 (1,2,3) - と同じ
    //同じ
  11. 00:47:703 (4,5) - も素直において良さそう
    サビ繰り替えしだから同じようなとこは省きます
    //ok
  12. 00:48:953 (1) - これ角度こんくらいのが好き
    //ok
  13. 00:57:203 (2,3) - ちなみにこれ入れ替えても流れいい感じなる
    //changed a bit
  14. 00:57:953 (1) - これ流れ強引だからblanketよりも終点00:56:828 (6) - にスタックくらいにしとかない?
    //this flow is ok imo. - 00:56:953 (1,1) - i prefer this blanket
  15. 01:02:328 (2,3,2,3) - フルート目立ってるから逆のがあってる
    //same as above
  16. 01:04:890 - ここ音ある?01:04:828 - circle 01:04:953 - sliderでよさげ
    //あるよ..でも、すべての1/8を消したからcircleに
  17. 01:06:328 (2,3,2,3,2,3) - からまたrhythm逆でいいと思う
    //same as above
  18. 01:09:953 (1) - から音変わるわけだしsliderにして差別化したほうが良いと思う、4つのが00:48:953 (1,2,3,4) - こういうパターン置きしやすいだろうし
    /*
    in this part, i use 1/4 slider to express drum.
    i think the music changes at - 01:10:203 (3) - .
    */
  19. 01:18:328 - circleか01:18:078 (1) - reverse欲しい
    //ok


分かんないとこあったらまたメッセください
/*
it's a surprise to me.
and i changed some rhythm in kiai part by myself.
huge thanks!
*/
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sahuang

Lasse wrote:

[lunatic]
00:10:703 (5,6,1) - why is this stacked? jump/sapcing would work bette with your usual spacing and emphasis on 1 changed
00:45:828 (6) - why does this get the most spacing when 00:45:703 (5,1) - are both so much more important? how about something similar to http://i.imgur.com/wDqcvPb.jpg ? k
00:47:828 (6) - could make this a kickslider since 1/8 is really audible hmm maybe
second kiai is basically copy pasted to same things there
01:04:890 - this is so audible, could really be mapped. won't even make the map harder since it's between two sliders ok

gl
thx
FreeSongs

Flower wrote:

[FreeSong's]
like always i'm not good at modding big circle large spacing maps, so here're just some suggestions.
00:00:935 (1) - use Ctrl+H to check its symmetricity. use more nodes if neccessary. what does this slider look like, after all? Adjusted it a little bit. Now it should be close to perfect symmetry. wings? tbh idk lol. The only reason i have it here is because it sort of matches the impression i got from the song
00:15:453 (1) - should be at 00:15:578 - ? I think 00:15:453 - has a stronger beat, and it is also consistent with how i did before (00:11:328 (3,1,1) - )
00:16:953 (1,2,3,4) - user higher SV? nice!
00:35:953 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - imo the anti-flow is hard to play, and my suggestion is: I tried your suggestion and played around with it. I think the reason of creating such an anti-flowing pattern here is that I set the kiai up with a very strong anti-flowing pattern -- 00:33:953 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - . It just feels a bit unnatural to suddenly switch back to something that flows very intuitive.
00:36:203 (2,1) - ctrl+g
00:36:453 (2,3,4,1) - ctrl+g
00:36:828 (2) - put somewhere around 176:248

Monstrata wrote:

Freesong's Rhapsody

00:15:453 (1) - Why a pause here? You can do a slider instead for the held note. The pause really breaks flow because you force the player to move from here to the next object twice as slow as usual. Changed this to a slider
00:15:953 (1,1,2,1) - This is a lot better because the 1/1 gap doesn't influence spacing (its stacked vs same visual distance but twice the time)
00:33:078 (2,1) - This should really be a 1/2 slider xP 1 isn't in audible so i dont think you should just put a circle there like all the other drums. Yours feels good too, as it follows the drums well which also keeps the consistency. However, I think my original intention was to make this different from what I did earlier in this map in order to indicate/emphasize the strong feeling in kiai. With that in mind, I followed the violin (00:32:953 (1,1,1,1) - ) while using the continuous vertical jumps (rather than just leave 00:33:203 (1) - a pause). And I believe that this would express the music better overall because it can give a better set off for the kiai.

I liked the symmetry you used near the end. Wish you used it more often xD. Trying to use as much variety of patterns as what I could think of xD

Lasse wrote:

[freesongs]
00:23:953 (1) - i can see the intention for your stack on 00:23:703 (5) - but the spacing just seems too low here compared to surrounding patterns if you consider how strong this is, I'd personally ctrl-g 00:23:953 (1) - so 00:22:953 (1,3,1) - make a nice pattern Slightly increased the spacing between 00:23:828 (6,1) -
00:24:203 (2,3) - adding to ^ so weird with how much stronger the ends are ; / http://i.imgur.com/OfzDFqO.jpg makes way more sense. it's basically same as 00:26:953 (1,2,3,4,5) - To me it is not actually that strong if you sort of follow the violin. I am trying to get it flows around more freely like what the melody offers instead of strictly following the drums
00:25:453 (3,4) - how about ctrlg, so you get a flow break on 00:25:453 (3) - to emphasize new instrument? Good idea. But after trying with ctrl+g, I found out that its a bit unnatural. I think it was probably because of this 00:25:453 (3,4,5) - doesn't flow to the 00:25:953 (1) - well. After all, I still feel that the current way feels more natural to play.
00:33:203 (1,2,1,2) - why nc spam? musical pattern is still similar to before, just more intense and I don't think it's needed for reading I do think there is a need. I have tried removing the NCs. It turned out to be a bit more challenging for me to catch the flow. It also looked not really clean after all.
00:33:953 - for this whole part I think you could tone down nc usage a bit, there are so many single object combos and drain just gets weird I use NCs to emphasize the strong beats/make the patterns easier to read. If the NCs were not there, the readability might really become an issue.
00:44:703 (1,2,1,2) - http://i.imgur.com/IR5za2a.jpg movement gets so awkward to play here, but I can'T really give a good alternative without changing some other patterns ; / Yeah, it is a little bit hard to follow, but its feels fine for me to play.
00:47:703 (1,2,3,4,1) - can you not space 1/8 streams just as 1/6 ones a bit earlier? so easy to mistake for 1/6 They are not spaced the same. In fact, I usel 0.5x DS for these streams, meaning that 1/8s should have smaller spacing than 1/6s
01:10:203 (3) - why is this cymbal thing suddenly stacked? doesnt match your other patterning and won't really work for emphasis. how about something like http://i.imgur.com/3HlX0wQ.jpg ? I stacked like that because I want to emphasize 01:10:328 - by creating a huge distance difference between 01:10:203 (3,4) - and 01:10:078 (2,3) - . I also used similar patterns in other places (like 01:19:078 (2,3,2,3) -, 00:12:328 (2,3) - , ... etc.)

Thanks for the mods everyone!

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HabiHolic
[Easy]

01:04:453 - Note here.
01:11:953 (1) - Hmm.. I think not sure this spiner better for note san slider.

[Normal]

01:12:078 (1) - same Easy diff here
00:38:953 (3) - like this?

01:04:953 (3,4) - Rhythm sugguest.

[Frey's Insane]

01:19:703 (3) - i think so far distance... >_>

nice map and flow!

[FreeSongs' Rhapsody]

00:11:453 (1,1,1) - Delete NC? i don't understand add NC..
01:11:453 (2) - NC

[Lily Bread's Hyper]

00:21:578 (3) - sugguest!

00:37:703 (6) - distance far.. fixed plz..

00:46:953 (1) - Blanket?
01:20:453 (1) - Stack is bad patten imo... batter for far distance..

[Lunatic]

01:10:953 (1,1) - slider speed is first slowing next last fast better for flow imo..


Good Luck!
Topic Starter
sahuang

HabiHolic wrote:

[Easy]

01:04:453 - Note here. i'd like a pause after reverse so yeah
01:11:953 (1) - Hmm.. I think not sure this spiner better for note san slider. that's what i wanna do with easy lul

[Normal]

01:12:078 (1) - same Easy diff here no
00:38:953 (3) - like this? ok

01:04:953 (3,4) - Rhythm sugguest.

fix for freesongs

[FreeSongs' Rhapsody]

00:11:453 (1,1,1) - Delete NC? i don't understand add NC.. different duration compared to others so NC is ok
01:11:453 (2) - NC 0.5 and 0.57 not a big difference

[Lunatic]

01:10:953 (1,1) - slider speed is first slowing next last fast better for flow imo..
01:10:953 - big finish music here so should be higher sv

Good Luck!
Also for Frey's: it's the end of music and strong beat so the ds is supposed to be large to emphasis that, so it's fine
For Lily Bread: fixed blanket, others no change

thanks lo
Beige
wtf this beatmap has a game
Monstrata
Unused hitsounds:
soft-hitclap.wav
soft-hitfinish.wav

FreeSong's

00:09:203 - Red and Green lines are conflicting in volume.
Topic Starter
sahuang

Monstrata wrote:

Unused hitsounds:
soft-hitclap.wav
soft-hitfinish.wav
deleted
FreeSong's

00:09:203 - Red and Green lines are conflicting in volume.
made them the same 10%
Edit: gonna update tonight so bubble can be repaired

Edit2: updated.
Monstrata
#1
Xinely
we did recheck on irc

i think we can give a try for this ~
Topic Starter
sahuang
Thanks mr monstrata and baka nely<3
Pata-Mon
wocao
Haruto
Congratulations~
Left
gratzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


and rip harem
Otosaka-Yu
hao jb kuxuan
look like game
Beomsan
gratz
Satellite
cool sb grats :3
Nerova Riuz GX
ah. I'm a little bit late here but well, who knows.

I think there might be some things that should be clarified (or even fixed) here, some further discussion is probably required.
They are from my own view, but I'll try my best to make them more objective so people can see and judge them as well.

First of all, since 09kami's is no longer available in the regular set, it might not be appropriate to have his name in tags. well.

[freesongs]
  1. 00:20:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I might agree if you're going to make them with the backgrounds, but the stacks and pattern feel overdone here. imo the pattern is boosting the emphasis, which is weird because 1) it breaks the consistency on stacks and beats 2) causes a huge emphasis loss on 00:21:828 - behind the slider leniency
  2. 00:28:453 (3,4,5) - where's your special stacking pattern? also it fits better here since there's a brass on 00:28:578 - . (percussion gets stronger too btw)
  3. 00:44:453 (2,3,4,1) - imo a straight stream could be much better before a sharp Z-shape jumps. those turns are wrist-breaking.
  4. 00:49:953 (1,2,1,2) - I did expect a spacing boost because a crescendo starts on 00:48:953 -, but they are all lowered all of a sudden. Let's take 00:33:953 (1,2,1,2) - as a reference, you used anti jumps, bigger spacings, movements...but they are all not being used here. Even if you're trying to make some varieties, they are still way too weird.
  5. 00:52:953 (1,2,3,4) - details are dropped here. unlike all the other things, they are represented by four sliders, with repetitive flows. It could be fine to use four slider here, but I think adding some changes on movements can make this better. it also sounds not repetitive anyway.
  6. 01:14:703 (2,3,1) - It causes reading issues after the permutation (01:12:703 (2,3,1) - 01:13:703 (2,3,1) - ). apart from the context it's okay though.
  7. 00:49:953 - A serious note, the antijumps/sharp jumps are heavily reduced after this time point. I know nothing about your intentions, but it will be great if you're willing to explain them here.
Topic Starter
sahuang
09kami has a diff before and it's removed, so there's nothing wrong including it in tags.
If it must be removed, qat can do it without disqualification tho I doubt if there's any need.

Freesongs will reply to this today, so don't worry, you will see his reply before its ranked.
It's 12am in Canada rn so maybe wait for another 16 hours or sth, thanks.

不是很懂你们搞事的,哎...这图打起来根本就没什么问题,这些都是你personal opinions。。反正等福瑞松回复吧
[Crz]Makii

sahuang wrote:

不是很懂你们搞事的,哎...这图打起来根本就没什么问题,这些都是你personal opinions。。反正等福瑞松回复吧
09kami

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

First of all, since 09kami's is no longer available in the regular set, it might not be appropriate to have his name in tags. well.
agree
please delete link

Topic Starter
sahuang

09kami wrote:

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

First of all, since 09kami's is no longer available in the regular set, it might not be appropriate to have his name in tags. well.
agree
please delete link

if you want
ok!! will ask some one to delete tag,but it's not dq worthy.
Topic Starter
sahuang
Actually i can try to respond, see if it can convince you. In case freesongs can't appear lol he's too busy
In chinese maybe?
respond

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

[freesongs]
  1. 00:20:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I might agree if you're going to make them with the backgrounds, but the stacks and pattern feel overdone here. imo the pattern is boosting the emphasis, which is weird because 1) it breaks the consistency on stacks and beats 2) causes a huge emphasis loss on 00:21:828 - behind the slider leniency
    00:21:203 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这边不觉得有什么问题。。是一个很好的有规律重叠,overdone'的问题完全没有..这张图首先就没有那种瞎跳,00:20:453 (3,4,5,6) - 这种地方都是这样的重叠,现在这个pattern怎么能说他break the consistency on stacks and beats...
  2. 00:28:453 (3,4,5) - where's your special stacking pattern? also it fits better here since there's a brass on 00:28:578 - . (percussion gets stronger too btw)
    00:28:328 (2,3) - emphasis了音调增加,所以要远一点,00:27:578 (4,3) - 也是stack的,然后00:28:453 (3,4,5,1) - 间距规规矩矩。
  3. 00:44:453 (2,3,4,1) - imo a straight stream could be much better before a sharp Z-shape jumps. those turns are wrist-breaking.
    这个只是个人看法,都是stream,直线和稍微弯一点的stream'没什么区别...只是你可能觉得打起来更顺,但是并没有必要改
  4. 00:49:953 (1,2,1,2) - I did expect a spacing boost because a crescendo starts on 00:48:953 -, but they are all lowered all of a sudden. Let's take 00:33:953 (1,2,1,2) - as a reference, you used anti jumps, bigger spacings, movements...but they are all not being used here. Even if you're trying to make some varieties, they are still way too weird.
    很奇怪吗。。这两段kiai也并不需要全部anti-flow吧...感觉还是个人看法,因为第二个地方确实可以anti,但是打起来排版就会完全不同,又需要一堆改正。在不影响dq前提下我觉得不需要改,你觉得呢》。
  5. 00:52:953 (1,2,3,4) - details are dropped here. unlike all the other things, they are represented by four sliders, with repetitive flows. It could be fine to use four slider here, but I think adding some changes on movements can make this better. it also sounds not repetitive anyway.
    hmm...四个滑条表示节奏未尝不可,确实可以改一个为2个圈,但是一样,这边还是个人偏好,不影响图的dq啊
  6. 01:14:703 (2,3,1) - It causes reading issues after the permutation (01:12:703 (2,3,1) - 01:13:703 (2,3,1) - ). apart from the context it's okay though.
    这图本来就很吃读图。。所以说很多地方确实有很难打的梗,希望你能理解下,毕竟6.2星的ex,做了个很有他特色的难度w
  7. 00:49:953 - A serious note, the antijumps/sharp jumps are heavily reduced after this time point. I know nothing about your intentions, but it will be great if you're willing to explain them here.
    第二段确实比第一段好打点,少了些anti,这样可以增加variety...我个人是觉得打图的时候一轻一快节奏变起来挺舒服的,就看你怎么map了吧。
最后...这图真的很良心啊,相比于现在那么多无脑1/2大跳图,这种有风格的set确实很少见,我也想把这样的set多多引入osu,因此这首6.22的图打起来确实很卡手。他并没有spacing连打,没有big jump,很多都是有趣的节奏排列组合,说他卡手是肯定的。不过我希望你能接收一下这种风格啦,毕竟freesongs的图风就这样,你可以参考helix来着。
其实你说的那些issue,确实不是不能改,但是没必要。不会cause dq,但是可能打的更顺手,我觉得还是mapper自己的选择喜好吧,我觉得这样的图没什么问题。在consistency上去挑刺感觉没什么必要==dq一趟也很麻烦,更何况是没什么太大改变的dq,不值得。

Thanks for your concerns, maybe freesongs will say more if you still are not satisfied w

It's more like your personal thoughts about how to map this song through freesongs' diff,so i dont think it's a valid reason for dq, the map has it's unique style and it's totally fine.
FreeSongs

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

ah. I'm a little bit late here but well, who knows.

I think there might be some things that should be clarified (or even fixed) here, some further discussion is probably required.
They are from my own view, but I'll try my best to make them more objective so people can see and judge them as well.

First of all, since 09kami's is no longer available in the regular set, it might not be appropriate to have his name in tags. well.

[freesongs]
  1. 00:20:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I might agree if you're going to make them with the backgrounds, but the stacks and pattern feel overdone here. imo the pattern is boosting the emphasis, which is weird because 1) it breaks the consistency on stacks and beats 2) causes a huge emphasis loss on 00:21:828 - behind the slider leniency I feel like this is the less intense part for the section from 00:17:953 - to 00:25:953 -, so I stack them to sort of express this feeling. They are easy to follow and do not require much reading compared to other patterns before and after. For the second time (00:28:953 (1,2,3,4,5) - ), I changed the idea entirely to build up for the kiai, which makes the entire transition (from "before kiai" to "kiai")more natural imo.
  2. 00:28:453 (3,4,5) - where's your special stacking pattern? also it fits better here since there's a brass on 00:28:578 - . (percussion gets stronger too btw) explained above I believe
  3. 00:44:453 (2,3,4,1) - imo a straight stream could be much better before a sharp Z-shape jumps. those turns are wrist-breaking. maybe. I think it plays fine and give more variety in stream styles. Also, I personally think the current way feels better than just making the stream straight
  4. 00:49:953 (1,2,1,2) - I did expect a spacing boost because a crescendo starts on 00:48:953 -, but they are all lowered all of a sudden. Let's take 00:33:953 (1,2,1,2) - as a reference, you used anti jumps, bigger spacings, movements...but they are all not being used here. Even if you're trying to make some varieties, they are still way too weird. "The big anti jumps and bigger spacings, movements ..." They are all for the sudden transition to the kiai. My intention was to emphasize the beginning of the kiai. At the beginning of the second kiai, there is not much need for emphasis again imo (It is according how I feel the song is like). They are lower in spacing but not in difficulty. The flow is different and that is exactly what I want to create here. It also gives a smooth transition to the calm part after the kiai.
  5. 00:52:953 (1,2,3,4) - details are dropped here. unlike all the other things, they are represented by four sliders, with repetitive flows. It could be fine to use four slider here, but I think adding some changes on movements can make this better. it also sounds not repetitive anyway. Yeah, I did hesitate about this when I was placing these four sliders. I tried to make the rhythm as vary as possible while not breaking the flow idea behind it. The idea here was to do an oval flow to make a small contrast with the straight flow right after this 00:53:953 (1,2,1,2,1) -
  6. 01:14:703 (2,3,1) - It causes reading issues after the permutation (01:12:703 (2,3,1) - 01:13:703 (2,3,1) - ). apart from the context it's okay though. [color=#8000FF]Well, 01:12:578 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - , 01:13:578 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - and the first part of the last pattern 01:14:578 (1,2,3,1) - are exactly the same in structure. I don't think the small spacing 01:14:828 (3,1) - can cause any reading issue but emphasize the large jumps right after this.
  7. 00:49:953 - A serious note, the antijumps/sharp jumps are heavily reduced after this time point. I know nothing about your intentions, but it will be great if you're willing to explain them here. should have been explained above. antijumps/sharp jumps are reduced by the difficulty is not reduced. The different feeling of flow is exactly what I want the players to get overall.
Thank you for the feedback!!
Karen
online tag is different from in-game tag, if you want to completely fix the tag issue, you'd better dq it. /passing by
Topic Starter
sahuang

Karen wrote:

online tag is different from in-game tag, if you want to completely fix the tag issue, you'd better dq it. /passing by
confirmed with okorin,he said someone deleted online tag and i guess it's fine w
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towelie316
Is this real to get clear storyboard (with or without music) in video format?
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